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Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 22 2016 01:23 GMT
#1821
On October 22 2016 10:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2016 10:09 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 22 2016 10:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
Ah I found out why I couldn't find the quite button.

On October 22 2016 04:06 WaveofShadow wrote:
I'm not caught up but the rest of my day is going to be insane. Won't be around until after deadline.

If I can't see a good solid wagon to jump on I'll be throwing my vote on someone from my earlier list, so LT/GB most likely.


On top of that, someone (I think it was Dandel) asked me before why I was going to shoot him and not vote for him, so I did both.

Literally only had time to do what I did in between patients.

Did you take damage? how much?

(You can tell me you dont wanna answer if you have a reason to do so)

Was there a point to your questioning or were you just curious?

Hey HF, when are you gonna get your tits in here and talk to me?
I'd like to know how in the fuck you could possibly want to kill me at this point (beyond the usual of course)

Just trying to keep my list up to date, I saw sicklucker claim to hit you but had you as a ? for damage taken because I derped.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 22 2016 01:27 GMT
#1822
I still don't see any reason not to shoot Tolk, but if there is one I'd be glad to hear it. The most I've seen him care about anything is announcing that he wants me to die if/when he does.

Checking out the damages the targets are interesting. Koshi damage and Tolk damage are likely town, Acro and iamp are more likely to be scum (though it doesn't clear either of them from being scum themselves for fun reasons. Not that I think iamp at the least is scum).

We definitely need more people to claim their activity/damage though.
I love action speculating and stuff. Can't wait for dayphase
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 22 2016 01:29 GMT
#1823
As far as lynching goes, like I said before probably Koshi/Vivax. Vivax i think is primary target. I've seen him climb out of lynches like this before (though my memory is apparently faulty 'cause I thought I was in a game with tictoc when I wasn't----OH I REMEMBER IT WAS TRFEL---sorry getting old I guess)

I wish more people could be around when I can be.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 22 2016 01:30 GMT
#1824
On October 22 2016 10:27 WaveofShadow wrote:
I still don't see any reason not to shoot Tolk, but if there is one I'd be glad to hear it. The most I've seen him care about anything is announcing that he wants me to die if/when he does.

Checking out the damages the targets are interesting. Koshi damage and Tolk damage are likely town, Acro and iamp are more likely to be scum (though it doesn't clear either of them from being scum themselves for fun reasons. Not that I think iamp at the least is scum).

We definitely need more people to claim their activity/damage though.
I love action speculating and stuff. Can't wait for dayphase

6/9 damage to iamp was self-inflicted afaik

What's your read on Koshi?
Are either of acro or iamp scummy to you for any reason?

I mostly agree with Tolk being a reasonable shot target, but I think there are better choices.


(As of right now,) Who do we lynch tomorrow?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 22 2016 01:30 GMT
#1825
the ninja.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 22 2016 01:32 GMT
#1826
So how about giving me some homework?
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 22 2016 01:35 GMT
#1827
On October 22 2016 10:30 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2016 10:27 WaveofShadow wrote:
I still don't see any reason not to shoot Tolk, but if there is one I'd be glad to hear it. The most I've seen him care about anything is announcing that he wants me to die if/when he does.

Checking out the damages the targets are interesting. Koshi damage and Tolk damage are likely town, Acro and iamp are more likely to be scum (though it doesn't clear either of them from being scum themselves for fun reasons. Not that I think iamp at the least is scum).

We definitely need more people to claim their activity/damage though.
I love action speculating and stuff. Can't wait for dayphase

6/9 damage to iamp was self-inflicted afaik

What's your read on Koshi?
Are either of acro or iamp scummy to you for any reason?

I mostly agree with Tolk being a reasonable shot target, but I think there are better choices.


(As of right now,) Who do we lynch tomorrow?

Ah damn that's right.

Koshi? Like I said, I think he very well could be town but is sandbagging to 'fix' his meta since he rolled scum the last 3 games. Either way he needs to be removed.

Iamp would be playing a hell of a game as scum at this point. Highly doubtful.
Acro I'm less sure of because I haven't played with him as much and I remember even less from so long ago. This is probably a good hitn to myself that I should go back and read him a lil.

We lynch Vivax tomorrow. I already answered that.

Who are your better shot choices exactly, and why?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 22 2016 01:36 GMT
#1828
Oh I get it, the ninja.
Yes.
Well.

Um I dunno, let's chat a while. It's how I do my best work (when I do any)

Important things to look at: is there anything to be learned from EoD stuff?
Who were people on, who switched to whom, when, and why?

We should sift through that.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 22 2016 01:40 GMT
#1829
On October 22 2016 10:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh I get it, the ninja.
Yes.
Well.

Um I dunno, let's chat a while. It's how I do my best work (when I do any)

Important things to look at: is there anything to be learned from EoD stuff?
Who were people on, who switched to whom, when, and why?

We should sift through that.

My problem is that I believe koshi more town than mafia, so the wagons are meaningless to me. The EoD stuff is therefore useless for me to analyze. I dislike HF, lunatic and acro atm. I'd like to lynch Lunatic next, and I'd like to shoot acro most atm. Notwithstanding his rosh claim early on, he basically lied about his availability and showed up to complain about a) we didnt lynch vivax and b) kp speculation type stuff.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 22 2016 01:43 GMT
#1830
On October 22 2016 10:40 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2016 10:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh I get it, the ninja.
Yes.
Well.

Um I dunno, let's chat a while. It's how I do my best work (when I do any)

Important things to look at: is there anything to be learned from EoD stuff?
Who were people on, who switched to whom, when, and why?

We should sift through that.

My problem is that I believe koshi more town than mafia, so the wagons are meaningless to me. The EoD stuff is therefore useless for me to analyze. I dislike HF, lunatic and acro atm. I'd like to lynch Lunatic next, and I'd like to shoot acro most atm. Notwithstanding his rosh claim early on, he basically lied about his availability and showed up to complain about a) we didnt lynch vivax and b) kp speculation type stuff.

Acro is at least posting readable content. I don't think it's an amazing idea to shoot into someone like that when we have Glowingbear, for example.

And so what if you believe koshi is more town than mafia? Do you believe Vivax is scum? If so you should probably be interested in how his train got derailed. If you think everyone under pressure was town in some way, then maybe it's in your best interested to see who spread their votes around?

Gonna read Acro.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 22 2016 01:48 GMT
#1831
On October 22 2016 10:43 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2016 10:40 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 22 2016 10:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh I get it, the ninja.
Yes.
Well.

Um I dunno, let's chat a while. It's how I do my best work (when I do any)

Important things to look at: is there anything to be learned from EoD stuff?
Who were people on, who switched to whom, when, and why?

We should sift through that.

My problem is that I believe koshi more town than mafia, so the wagons are meaningless to me. The EoD stuff is therefore useless for me to analyze. I dislike HF, lunatic and acro atm. I'd like to lynch Lunatic next, and I'd like to shoot acro most atm. Notwithstanding his rosh claim early on, he basically lied about his availability and showed up to complain about a) we didnt lynch vivax and b) kp speculation type stuff.

Acro is at least posting readable content. I don't think it's an amazing idea to shoot into someone like that when we have Glowingbear, for example.

And so what if you believe koshi is more town than mafia? Do you believe Vivax is scum? If so you should probably be interested in how his train got derailed. If you think everyone under pressure was town in some way, then maybe it's in your best interested to see who spread their votes around?

Gonna read Acro.

@the italicized, thats mafia playground...I'm not wasting my time trying to wade through the WIFOM there.

Shooting the likes of GB over acro has its merits though. I need to not tunnel people who think I scum since it happens so often.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
October 22 2016 01:51 GMT
#1832
i doubt i had 3 dmg dealt to me i probably got healed by someone.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 22 2016 01:57 GMT
#1833
On October 22 2016 10:51 iamperfection wrote:
i doubt i had 3 dmg dealt to me i probably got healed by someone.


If you healed Iamp, dont tell us plox.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 22 2016 02:00 GMT
#1834
OH ritoky is in fact scumreading me?
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 22 2016 02:00 GMT
#1835
On October 22 2016 10:43 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2016 10:40 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 22 2016 10:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh I get it, the ninja.
Yes.
Well.

Um I dunno, let's chat a while. It's how I do my best work (when I do any)

Important things to look at: is there anything to be learned from EoD stuff?
Who were people on, who switched to whom, when, and why?

We should sift through that.

My problem is that I believe koshi more town than mafia, so the wagons are meaningless to me. The EoD stuff is therefore useless for me to analyze. I dislike HF, lunatic and acro atm. I'd like to lynch Lunatic next, and I'd like to shoot acro most atm. Notwithstanding his rosh claim early on, he basically lied about his availability and showed up to complain about a) we didnt lynch vivax and b) kp speculation type stuff.

Acro is at least posting readable content. I don't think it's an amazing idea to shoot into someone like that when we have Glowingbear, for example.

And so what if you believe koshi is more town than mafia? Do you believe Vivax is scum? If so you should probably be interested in how his train got derailed. If you think everyone under pressure was town in some way, then maybe it's in your best interested to see who spread their votes around?

Gonna read Acro.


Why do you want me dead?
I'm adorable.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 22 2016 02:03 GMT
#1836
On October 22 2016 10:48 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2016 10:43 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 22 2016 10:40 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 22 2016 10:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh I get it, the ninja.
Yes.
Well.

Um I dunno, let's chat a while. It's how I do my best work (when I do any)

Important things to look at: is there anything to be learned from EoD stuff?
Who were people on, who switched to whom, when, and why?

We should sift through that.

My problem is that I believe koshi more town than mafia, so the wagons are meaningless to me. The EoD stuff is therefore useless for me to analyze. I dislike HF, lunatic and acro atm. I'd like to lynch Lunatic next, and I'd like to shoot acro most atm. Notwithstanding his rosh claim early on, he basically lied about his availability and showed up to complain about a) we didnt lynch vivax and b) kp speculation type stuff.

Acro is at least posting readable content. I don't think it's an amazing idea to shoot into someone like that when we have Glowingbear, for example.

And so what if you believe koshi is more town than mafia? Do you believe Vivax is scum? If so you should probably be interested in how his train got derailed. If you think everyone under pressure was town in some way, then maybe it's in your best interested to see who spread their votes around?

Gonna read Acro.

@the italicized, thats mafia playground...I'm not wasting my time trying to wade through the WIFOM there.

Shooting the likes of GB over acro has its merits though. I need to not tunnel people who think I scum since it happens so often.

I mean I disagree it's all WIFOM, that's pretty dismissive. At an EoD where it looks like the votes could end up anywhere, it's in mafia's best interests to only allow a requisite number of votes to end up on town, one way to do so is spreading out.


Iamp, thoughts on the lynch? Thoughts going forward?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 22 2016 02:04 GMT
#1837
On October 22 2016 11:00 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2016 10:43 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 22 2016 10:40 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 22 2016 10:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh I get it, the ninja.
Yes.
Well.

Um I dunno, let's chat a while. It's how I do my best work (when I do any)

Important things to look at: is there anything to be learned from EoD stuff?
Who were people on, who switched to whom, when, and why?

We should sift through that.

My problem is that I believe koshi more town than mafia, so the wagons are meaningless to me. The EoD stuff is therefore useless for me to analyze. I dislike HF, lunatic and acro atm. I'd like to lynch Lunatic next, and I'd like to shoot acro most atm. Notwithstanding his rosh claim early on, he basically lied about his availability and showed up to complain about a) we didnt lynch vivax and b) kp speculation type stuff.

Acro is at least posting readable content. I don't think it's an amazing idea to shoot into someone like that when we have Glowingbear, for example.

And so what if you believe koshi is more town than mafia? Do you believe Vivax is scum? If so you should probably be interested in how his train got derailed. If you think everyone under pressure was town in some way, then maybe it's in your best interested to see who spread their votes around?

Gonna read Acro.


Why do you want me dead?

'Cause you're of no use to us alive?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 22 2016 02:04 GMT
#1838
...And I've just confused the shit out of myself...HF+ritoky+Gb interactions means I take a break.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 22 2016 02:05 GMT
#1839
On October 22 2016 11:03 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2016 10:48 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 22 2016 10:43 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 22 2016 10:40 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 22 2016 10:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh I get it, the ninja.
Yes.
Well.

Um I dunno, let's chat a while. It's how I do my best work (when I do any)

Important things to look at: is there anything to be learned from EoD stuff?
Who were people on, who switched to whom, when, and why?

We should sift through that.

My problem is that I believe koshi more town than mafia, so the wagons are meaningless to me. The EoD stuff is therefore useless for me to analyze. I dislike HF, lunatic and acro atm. I'd like to lynch Lunatic next, and I'd like to shoot acro most atm. Notwithstanding his rosh claim early on, he basically lied about his availability and showed up to complain about a) we didnt lynch vivax and b) kp speculation type stuff.

Acro is at least posting readable content. I don't think it's an amazing idea to shoot into someone like that when we have Glowingbear, for example.

And so what if you believe koshi is more town than mafia? Do you believe Vivax is scum? If so you should probably be interested in how his train got derailed. If you think everyone under pressure was town in some way, then maybe it's in your best interested to see who spread their votes around?

Gonna read Acro.

@the italicized, thats mafia playground...I'm not wasting my time trying to wade through the WIFOM there.

Shooting the likes of GB over acro has its merits though. I need to not tunnel people who think I scum since it happens so often.

I mean I disagree it's all WIFOM, that's pretty dismissive. At an EoD where it looks like the votes could end up anywhere, it's in mafia's best interests to only allow a requisite number of votes to end up on town, one way to do so is spreading out.


Iamp, thoughts on the lynch? Thoughts going forward?

Votes were spread out all day and stayed that way for an extended period of time. I'm not inclined to run timelines for each player, but as a general feel I do not think the EoD analysis is of particular use without 2 more days worth of flips.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 22 2016 02:24 GMT
#1840
Acro:
Reasonable account of me vs Exo early on.

An early waffle post about Koshi, seems to think he's town but then likes him less as the day goes on apparently? I dunno, doesn't do a whole lot here but Koshi always seems to be on his mind to no real effect.

Makes a decent post on Hopeless and follows through for a while. Still not trusting iamp a lot

Hmm.
On October 22 2016 01:27 Acrofales wrote:
Let me put it this way: Vivax is a policy lynch because he's Vivax. I hate the way he plays and will happily see him dead. Chance of him flipping scum = (number of scum in game)/24, so slightly over 1/4?

H1der is a mafia read. I think my mafia reads are pretty good, so > 50/50 chance he's scum. Clearly the better lynch.

Shoots down the idea of a Vivax lynch real early but for good reason and consistent to his goal.

Points out the modconfirm on ptmc (not particularly useful for scum to have that in the open, though I suppose other people could ahve and did figure it out on their own)

On October 22 2016 03:15 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2016 03:11 Vivax wrote:
Lul this game.
My first post was just a giant idiot magnet, I just wanted to put something out there that had to sound super scummy, somewhat for fun, somewhat to see how people react. Can't believe anyone even takes the vote seriously (looking at TT).

##unvote
##vote Vivax


Because I just really want you ded.


I think Acro is most likely to be town here. Seems like a solid (and likely the correct) reaction to this.
Are there people who find him scummy this game? If so I'd like to see what I'm missing here becuase I'm not finding anything worth calling him scum over.



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