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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
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NocturneMage
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
On October 22 2016 08:28 Lord Tolkien wrote: you're claiming the action, but he hasn't claimed hp loss and RBs are a thing I mean I hope scum wasted a rb on my pathetic 6 dmg | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
On October 22 2016 08:29 sicklucker wrote: Koshi was pissing people off and didnt really care about the game. Kind of somewhat standard koshi but he rolled mafia 3 or so games inarow so I would have expected him to try as town in a fun game like this. this is also how he was when I played against him in star wars minus the pissing people off part, but I haven't played against him in awhile, still good to know. | ||
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
On October 22 2016 08:36 NocturneMage wrote: this is also how he was when I played against him in star wars minus the pissing people off part, but I haven't played against him in awhile, still good to know. The way he responded to you is basically how he's responded to everyone so far. He does that in other games but he generally produces good content. Not this game however. | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
On October 22 2016 08:36 NocturneMage wrote: this is also how he was when I played against him in star wars minus the pissing people off part, but I haven't played against him in awhile, still good to know. i mean ya his play is not out of his town range (EXCEPT HIM NOT EVEN TRYING AT DEADLINE WHEN HE WAS A WAGON) The more I think on it. Hes just rolled mafia again and does not want to try. Its a double edged sword because I would also expect him to try when he has not rolled town in awile | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On October 22 2016 08:40 sicklucker wrote: i mean ya his play is not out of his town range (EXCEPT HIM NOT EVEN TRYING AT DEADLINE WHEN HE WAS A WAGON) The more I think on it. Hes just rolled mafia again and does not want to try. Its a double edged sword because I would also expect him to try when he has not rolled town in awile @the allcaps, I kind of feel like if he'd have come in and done anything it would just draw more attention to him, ending up with more people willing to shennany onto him. I'm like 80% confident koshi is town. | ||
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ExO_
United States2316 Posts
On October 22 2016 09:02 Hopeless1der wrote: @the allcaps, I kind of feel like if he'd have come in and done anything it would just draw more attention to him, ending up with more people willing to shennany onto him. I'm like 80% confident koshi is town. I don't think this is true at all. He can't "do anything" aka play as a town player, because somehow that will get him lynched? It makes 0 sense. My experience with Koshi isn't nearly as much as some of the other players here. But in my opinion he is always sorta trolly, but always tries to push town in the right direction. He's not doing that here, and that's why I attacked him. Koshi is at the top of my scum list right now, and you're incredibly flaky defense of him out of no where puts you next to him. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
,, 1  Bill Murray,(?),2 Rels replaced by Artanis[Xp],(?),{Dandel}3  Â Dandel Ion,(?),4 Holyflare,(?),5 Skynx ,(?),6 iamperfection,(9) 6 {Unknown},7 beentheredonethat,(1+?),8 Lunaticman,(?),9 HamazuraXTakitsubo,(?),10 ptmc,(?),11 ExO_Â ,(?),12 Acrofales,(7),{Unknown}13 Eversince replaced by NocturneMage,(5),{Mod penalty}14 Kurumi,(?),15 Hopeless1der,(0),16 ritoky,(?),<Roleblock by sicklucker>17 Vivax,(?),18 Koshi,(12),19 GlowingBear,(?),"{Koshi, Iamperfection}"20 sicklucker,(?),21 WaveofShadow,(?),{sicklucker}22 Tubesock,(?),23 Lord Tolkien,(11),{Tubesock}Well I broke my formatting, but its in a spreadsheet now so it'll be easier for me to keep it updated at least. I'll make a point to post an update every 20-30 hours. If I forget please yell at me. | ||
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ExO_
United States2316 Posts
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iamperfection
United States9647 Posts
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On October 22 2016 09:19 ExO_ wrote: I don't think this is true at all. He can't "do anything" aka play as a town player, because somehow that will get him lynched? It makes 0 sense. My experience with Koshi isn't nearly as much as some of the other players here. But in my opinion he is always sorta trolly, but always tries to push town in the right direction. He's not doing that here, and that's why I attacked him. Koshi is at the top of my scum list right now, and you're incredibly flaky defense of him out of no where puts you next to him. I'm referring explicitly to his actions at the deadline. Hell, even showing up in the first place after watching his movie was ballsy ass hell. I'm genuinely surprised less people jumped on him, which leads me to believe that the options are: A) Koshi is scum B) scum stayed on TT or C) scum is afk/throwing away votes on outliers/replaced I'm inclined to believe B&C at this moment, but I wouldnt be upset if koshi flipped. However, I have no intention of helping to flip him. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On October 22 2016 09:23 iamperfection wrote: should kill vivax probably. decided to do just enough and then fucks off again kill HF with him imo. | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
hopeless him defending or not defending himself at end of cycle doesn't make him any more or less town unless you want to demonstrate meta. some townies/mafia give up, some will defend themselves under lynch with fire pressure. so far early reading I'm getting good vibes so far from ritoky (questioning suspicious townreads), acrofales, wave of shade is also okay-ish beenthere's early thoughts on koshi look okay to me, but his sicklucker scumread (will look for context) looks disjointed - no explanation and I don't understand the IAMP scumread either, guess I'll double check those interactions to see if I missed anything. koshi does look underwhelming early on though. skynx is also disjointed, and more specifically looking at his filter I don't like how he doesn't appear to follow up on his tubesock and bill murray reads when in his big list post he's showing he's the most stuck on them. generally lack of follow-through is mafia indicative. | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
On one hand he's calling holyflare mafia with no explanation other than opportunism but then we have luna/hf both pushing each other. same time though, lunaticman points out this discrepancy though.... On October 21 2016 05:05 Lunaticman wrote: I think it is very shallow as expected day one. It felt like he just wanted to assign blame to someone. Throwing the first rock if you will. I like your idea of building a town circle, that is always the most important thing the first two days. I'm also sad to see you say you will never play again maybe your just not in the mood. Also I'm off to bed nn. On October 21 2016 22:55 Lunaticman wrote: HAHA :D this made me laugh thank you. You don't want to engage me directly but now I won't let you slip between the cracks so you just try to shade me while voting someone else entirely. And you don't even post any reasons. It is intresting people are town reading BT and scum reading me although we both have the exact same read on Koshi. This smells like mafia trying to save mafia. and that double standard gives me pause, atm stuck on whether he's trying to skate by or whether he's someone who speaks in simpler sentences (if that makes any sense, basically someone who makes instinct reads...) but will need to revisit him after flips or more content. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On October 22 2016 08:26 sicklucker wrote: Also for your pretty little chart I did 6 damage to WaveofShadow . I could have done more but I was feeling nice Haha no you didn't. I didn't take any damage last night I got off scot freeeeeeeeeeeeeee + Show Spoiler + I had a fucking horrible day today. I'm catching up sporadically but I'm sure the only time I'll be around and active is when no one else is. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
I want to lynch HF and lunaticman. I want acro shot for being afk at/leading up to deadline but being here just after night post. Iamp and dandel are my current top town based on their actual play. ptmc is NOT modconfirmed, but for the moment is excused from any scrutiny. Artanis and Nocturne get a free pass tonight from me. Nocturne is already catching up and I like his thoughts so far. I have a stupid number of unknowns this game. I realize I'm probably one of them for everyone else, but more than half the game is in the null-zone: not scummy or towny enough to push/sheep. Can people please do things? This is disgusting when I'm not bottom of the barrel on post volume. | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
On October 22 2016 09:24 Hopeless1der wrote: I'm referring explicitly to his actions at the deadline. Hell, even showing up in the first place after watching his movie was ballsy ass hell. I'm genuinely surprised less people jumped on him, which leads me to believe that the options are: A) Koshi is scum B) scum stayed on TT or C) scum is afk/throwing away votes on outliers/replaced I'm inclined to believe B&C at this moment, but I wouldnt be upset if koshi flipped. However, I have no intention of helping to flip him. can you explain in your own words why you think Koshi is town? from skimming your filter, it seems like your defence of him boils down to how others are pushing him (your parallel to holyflare), and I'm not seeing a coherent argument that people are pushing him for the wrong reasons. in short, how are you distinguishing bad town from mafia with koshi? ignore everyone else for a second. | ||
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