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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On October 22 2016 07:48 Lord Tolkien wrote: I'll detail the player movements later but. JOIN ME IN KILLING WAVE PEOPLE. Haha fight me son There is never a scenario where I get lynched before you. You're lucky though, I only smacked you for a little, and I've got way more important things to do with my actions from now on. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On October 22 2016 09:38 NocturneMage wrote: can you explain in your own words why you think Koshi is town? from skimming your filter, it seems like your defence of him boils down to how others are pushing him (your parallel to holyflare), and I'm not seeing a coherent argument that people are pushing him for the wrong reasons. in short, how are you distinguishing bad town from mafia with koshi? ignore everyone else for a second. My own personal meta that is liable to be very stupid and I don't want to share in the rare event I'm actually right. | ||
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ExO_
United States2316 Posts
On October 22 2016 03:28 Holyflare wrote: There's an abundance of him defending fringe people, defended sicklucker, defended hopeless, defended GB. Defending gb is also another thing that doesn't make sense from his perspective, ritoky says that gb isn't pushing me and he usually does so it's scummy but tt defends gb while pushing that ritoky was scummy for not calling me out. Why is ticktock defending SL/Hopeless/GB a problem? I might be tinfoiling a bit here, but if one of those people flips scum I think this means HF is also scum. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On October 22 2016 09:34 NocturneMage wrote: Lunatic is also rreaaaaaaalllllyyyyyy meh. On one hand he's calling holyflare mafia with no explanation other than opportunism but then we have luna/hf both pushing each other. same time though, lunaticman points out this discrepancy though.... and that double standard gives me pause, atm stuck on whether he's trying to skate by or whether he's someone who speaks in simpler sentences (if that makes any sense, basically someone who makes instinct reads...) but will need to revisit him after flips or more content. I currently have some huge associative WIFOM between koshi, HF and Lunaticman. My read of koshi is town, and it really makes me hate HF and Lunatic. The fact that HF and Luna are weakly pushing each other gives me weak bus vibes, but again this is very associative. I will note that they've said the other is scummy but never voted to match. | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
On October 22 2016 09:36 Hopeless1der wrote: I want acro shot for being afk at/leading up to deadline but being here just after night post. I thought he was pretty towny early on? I mean it's like Friday night and that alone gives a good reason to afk? I mean I get what you are saying but I think you need a stronger argument than being afk. unless you are implying what he said after the deadline was scummy and not so much his activity. you have a meta read on him I'm not aware of? | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On October 22 2016 09:40 ExO_ wrote: Holyflare looks to me like the main push that started the wagon on ticktock. And when he makes his big case he says this: Why is ticktock defending SL/Hopeless/GB a problem? I might be tinfoiling a bit here, but if one of those people flips scum I think this means HF is also scum. At the time those people were not obvious town (myself included). And your tinfoil means nothing. Not having a CLEAR townread on people means that reasonable doubt is 100% a thing. HF's push on tictock and LACK of push on Koshi is what makes him scummy to me. However, his point about tictock defending fringe people is a good scum-motive. Obviously that was false, tictock flipped town, ergo his reads were genuine, but they dont make tictock correct either. | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
On October 22 2016 09:41 Hopeless1der wrote: I currently have some huge associative WIFOM between koshi, HF and Lunaticman. My read of koshi is town, and it really makes me hate HF and Lunatic. The fact that HF and Luna are weakly pushing each other gives me weak bus vibes, but again this is very associative. I will note that they've said the other is scummy but never voted to match. okay I can buy this argument to an extent, I need to see how holyflare was pushing others though to be a bit more sure of him. personally I did like at end of cycle how holyflare was questioning beenthere's wavering of why he wasn't voting koshi when the latter was calling for koshi's head all cycle though. as far as the non voting goes, I don't ever believe a holyflare wagon got traction and if I recall the voting thread right, luna had a small wagon but not really taking off. I can see town wanting to compromise and consolidate, so I'm not ruling that out either. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On October 22 2016 09:41 NocturneMage wrote: I thought he was pretty towny early on? I mean it's like Friday night and that alone gives a good reason to afk? I mean I get what you are saying but I think you need a stronger argument than being afk. unless you are implying what he said after the deadline was scummy and not so much his activity. you have a meta read on him I'm not aware of? No but when asked if he'd be around at deadline: On October 21 2016 23:48 iamperfection wrote: Who will be here at deadline reply to this post Acro responded: On October 22 2016 00:01 Acrofales wrote: Probably not. I will have my phone, but will be at a party, so should be socializing and not f5'ing a forum. But 20 minutes after Night post On October 22 2016 07:23 Acrofales wrote: Wtf. Who derailed the Vivax train :@ I took 7 damage. then spent ~30 minutes trying to figure out what happened to allow him to be hit by KP since the movement list didnt make sense. Saying you'll be afk, then being here to complain, then not giving anything useful...rubs me the wrong way. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On October 22 2016 09:45 NocturneMage wrote: okay I can buy this argument to an extent, I need to see how holyflare was pushing others though to be a bit more sure of him. personally I did like at end of cycle how holyflare was questioning beenthere's wavering of why he wasn't voting koshi when the latter was calling for koshi's head all cycle though. as far as the non voting goes, I don't ever believe a holyflare wagon got traction and if I recall the voting thread right, luna had a small wagon but not really taking off. I can see town wanting to compromise and consolidate, so I'm not ruling that out either. If I'm distracting you from catch up, ignore me. Its more important you get a full sense of the game than respond to me right now. | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
I'm not sure what arguments people were making on him regarding activity but I don't do meta on people that I've never played with before. I've never played with vivax before. granted from reading his filter so far if I had to just come up with scummy points on my own on him 1 no followup on his acrofales mafia read 2 no followup on his kurumi mafia read either 3 he scumreads ticktock for something that doesn't necessarily make him mafia (or at least not from how the argument was worded) 4 his post towards end of cycle was also indicative of him lurking at least when you read for context. 5 soft defence of lunaticman for no reason when others were doubting, luna's early game was also really meh. like I don't know where vivax could have gotten a "how is luna not town" from what was going on. that isn't believable. | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
On October 22 2016 09:48 Hopeless1der wrote: If I'm distracting you from catch up, ignore me. Its more important you get a full sense of the game than respond to me right now. eh, worlds is more of a problem than you right now. damn me. :/ | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
On October 22 2016 09:54 NocturneMage wrote: I'm not sure what arguments people were making on him regarding activity but I don't do meta on people that I've never played with before. just realised what I wrote doesn't really make sense ebwop - I'm not sure what other arguments besides meta people were making on him regarding activity, but I don't do meta on people that I've never played with before. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On October 22 2016 04:06 WaveofShadow wrote: I'm not caught up but the rest of my day is going to be insane. Won't be around until after deadline. If I can't see a good solid wagon to jump on I'll be throwing my vote on someone from my earlier list, so LT/GB most likely. On top of that, someone (I think it was Dandel) asked me before why I was going to shoot him and not vote for him, so I did both. Literally only had time to do what I did in between patients. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On October 22 2016 10:04 WaveofShadow wrote: Ah I found out why I couldn't find the quite button. On top of that, someone (I think it was Dandel) asked me before why I was going to shoot him and not vote for him, so I did both. Literally only had time to do what I did in between patients. Did you take damage? how much? (You can tell me you dont wanna answer if you have a reason to do so) | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
I already claimed though, apparently sicklucker wanted to do shit to me, but it didn't work because I am pristine. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On October 22 2016 10:09 Hopeless1der wrote: Did you take damage? how much? (You can tell me you dont wanna answer if you have a reason to do so) Was there a point to your questioning or were you just curious? Hey HF, when are you gonna get your tits in here and talk to me? I'd like to know how in the fuck you could possibly want to kill me at this point (beyond the usual of course) | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On October 22 2016 10:12 WaveofShadow wrote: There is never any reason not to claim damage. I already claimed though, apparently sicklucker wanted to do shit to me, but it didn't work because I am pristine. my bad, i skipped over your post. Who should we lynch tomorrow? Who should we shoot tonight? + Show Spoiler [Claimed (HP)/{KP}] + ,, 1  Bill Murray,(?),2 Rels replaced by Artanis[Xp],(?),{Dandel}3  Dandel Ion,(?),4 Holyflare,(?),5 Skynx ,(?),6 iamperfection,(9) 6 {Unknown},7 beentheredonethat,(1+?),8 Lunaticman,(?),9 HamazuraXTakitsubo,(?),10 ptmc,(?),11 ExO_,(?),12 Acrofales,(7),{Unknown}13 Eversince replaced by NocturneMage,(5),{Mod penalty}14 Kurumi,(?),15 Hopeless1der,(0),16 ritoky,(?),17 Vivax,(?),18 Koshi,(12),19 GlowingBear,(?),"{Koshi, Iamperfection}"20 sicklucker,(?),21 WaveofShadow,(0),{sicklucker}22 Tubesock,(?),23 Lord Tolkien,(11),{Tubesock}{WaveofShadow},, If anyone notices anything not up to date, please point it out. | ||
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