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On October 24 2016 01:00 iamperfection wrote: if btdt is scum he has a massive tone shit and approach from his newbie game im pretty confident in top town read I'm wondering if Skynx attacked him either on purpose or a result of redirection. I guess it doen'st matter, neither really makes him mafia or town. | ||
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I can't even speculate on if it's a town ability or not. I don't think it clears him. All of his play points to mafia. | ||
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Just for the record, I don't think that's true. It isn't advanced mafia play to know you need to have a reason you can point back to for your actions/reads. | ||
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On October 24 2016 05:56 Bill Murray wrote: Ah ok well good ... what do u think of sick lockers plan yeah I htought we all basically agreed to do that (assuming you're talking about claiming attacks and damage taken). Then people stopped for whatever reason. | ||
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On October 24 2016 06:15 beentheredonethat wrote: Which action have you done on iamp? You can only submit one action per cycle. So what do you mean? I thought your action was cloning yourself? You're mistaken with Koroko. | ||
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On October 24 2016 06:14 beentheredonethat wrote: Why would mafia hit a town person that is scumread by the most? It would actually cost mafia a mislynch if you would flip town due to attacks. I'm pretty sure you know that. You're scum 150%. I'm not sure I know who you're talking to. You think Iamperfection is 150% mafia? What? | ||
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On October 24 2016 06:21 beentheredonethat wrote: I think the key here is to combine town players to shoot Vivax and lynch Koshi or the other way round. I don't understand. I guess I can see have some townies coordinate to kill koshi (but then mafia can protect so...) but I don't see a problem with lynching Vivax and having a secondary lynch just in case he's telling the truth. If he's not, then what did town lose? I'm having trouble seeing the downside. | ||
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On October 24 2016 06:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Also I don't really think Skynx is mafia anymore. ##Unvote ##Vote GlowingBear The fire rises. Anything specific about Skynx? So far I've only liked his post that was about the movement and who attacked GB I think it was. And that can probably come from mafia. Part of me feels like GB would play more if he rolled mafia. His "why did I sign up" post(s) seemed geniune to me. | ||
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Vivax, Skynx, Koshi Hamaztubo, Lord Tolkien Ritoky, GlowingBear Sicklucker My biggest problem with this is they are all lurkers. Rereading Acrofales, Dandel Ion, iamperfection I just can't see how they could be mafia. Statistically though, it's improbable that mafia are all lurkers. I think everyone in the game would kill HF if they were mafia, so it's not really informative that HF scummed: Vivax, Skynx and Koshi (also Art, beenthere,Lunat, ExO, Kurumi, GB, WoS). But if they are mafia then it would be double motivation to kill HF. Koshi already claimed hitting him. NocturneMage was clearly tryhard so that's a good reason to kill him too. He also scummed Koshi, Skynx and Vivax. Along with Lunatic and was suspicious of Kurumi, GB, TL, ExO, Bill, Hazmatubo. The kills also implicate Kurumi, ExO and GB. I eliminated kurumi and ExO but don't really remember why. HF was warming up to GB. So, anyone want to talk about LT, Ritoky, or GlowingBear? I think Hazmatubo will be replaced, and I think Sicklucker will be figured out a little bit better later. (I'm right about Siclucker 50% of the time 70% of the time) | ||
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On October 24 2016 06:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Just the martyr into ah fuck it I should try felt genuine to me. Meh, I don't agree. GB is legendary for falling off after D1 as mafia, and I think he's a lot more likely to step it up by now if he's town. True on GB. I guess I felt like he never got on to be able to fall off. I feel your pain with Lord also. Really he's like GB, there just isn't anything there at all to judge on. | ||
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On October 24 2016 06:40 Koshi wrote: MAYBE JUST FUCKING LET ME DO IT AND THEN JUDGE IF IT WAS WORTH IT OR PRO TOWN OR W.E. This I agree with. I don't think there's much downside to it. Outside some crazy mechanic. On October 24 2016 06:41 Koshi wrote: Not only am I confirmed town for having a double lynch. I am also confirmed town for how many people are jumping on this while I am not even up for discussion to be lynched today. People just want to see it fail. Haha no way man. There's nothing wrong with being skeptical of this ability. On October 24 2016 06:41 Koshi wrote: Skynx/Luna/Vivax/Acrofoles/sicklucker I can see arguments for everyone but Acrofoles. Why Acro? Hell, what's your reasons on SL too? | ||
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On October 21 2016 17:42 ritoky wrote: I think the 2 best candidates for lynch who are outside of policy-sub/modkill range are GB and Lunatic. Lunatic's case is pretty simple: I don't think he believes or cares very much about his reads. He has said Koshi is mafia since his first post for essentially being Koshi. But he hasn't made any real substantive push to try and convince people to get on board his Koshi lynch, he has just kind of left it sitting there passively. I don't even know the details of why he believes Koshi is mafia, but he says it so much in his filter that you would think he is tunneled. But then you read his filter and he doesn't seem tunneled at all, he isn't working to get people on board his target; I think he doesn't particularly care to lynch scum. There's something funky with his HF read, primarily with its basis being garbage. He town reads him, then flips basically because of omgus, then apparently wants to lynch HF but treats him like Koshi. HF not pushing back to the point of trying to lynch Luna over this hot trash read gives me some pause, but at least he called him likely mafia. GB is a variety of things. He is overall underwhelming thus far. He didn't show any excitement I was in the game. I don't see any of his spastic town/trying to make a play town tendencies. His just agree with HF rather than try to engage him to get a read seems off and like it may come from a place of extra information. He stated a placeholder vote, when I feel like town GB would more likely use his vote as a weapon to gauge reaction rather than literally tell me he wasn't serious about his vote. Since both you (Art and Koshi) have played with Ritoky a bunch and are meta-y. IS this the normal kind of case Ritoky does? I haven't played with him in a longtime but I thought his town posts were much more concise and he always went after people who were "overexplainers". This seems fairly overexplained to me. He usually does something that I think makes him 100% town, much like he talks about here: On October 23 2016 04:54 ritoky wrote: 1) because while other people think it is stupid and have told me so on multiple occasions and lynched me over it; i am a firm believer in the game philosophy that 1 moment in someone's filter can make them irrevocably town or mafia. i think this is especially the case with new players. many people lose sight of a moment of clarity over the course of 10 days as it gets muddled in shitwater; i try to hold on to those moments. 2) it's 100 pages, i don't remember who started trains that 15 people agree on, maybe it was you. but what you said about those trains i had read before from multiple people. so basically what i am saying is it didn't advance my opinion to a new understanding about the players you were scum reading, and didn't spark interest/awareness; it simply re-hashed whats already been said. it also lacked an a-ha or keen observation which would make me think "wow btdt is really looking at this game critically, damn sooooo town." so basically it didn't adjust my read on your scum reads or you. i do like that you care about your reads though, that's more than many. But not yet, not sure if htat's due to him not having played and he changed since it's been 6+ months? | ||
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On October 24 2016 06:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I'm mostly getting a TR on ptmc through reading SL's filter. Thanks SL. Also kinda agree on Wave looking meh. This post "Oh also I dunno I can't think of anything to say I just want to post" feels like he's overcompensating a bit. I guess I'm ok with SL. I like WoS the most. The only argument I can really see is that he jumped all over SL's ass for thinking that coordinating attacks was a good idea, yet a couple of Wave's posts prior were exactly that. And then even after he wanted to shoot in a group. I can see someone saying they just want to post. This game does have some long quiet periods where no one is around. | ||
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On October 24 2016 07:00 sicklucker wrote: Like people are all calling bill scum and ptmc before I put a stop to that. Also calling me scum. So its hard to trust the other scum reads of any of these people atm You have to admit, you get called scum every game...You make it tough to read you. I think ptmc is basically mod confirmed town, so yeah... Who called Bill scum other than HF (who bascially had him as suspicious) | ||
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Huh? | ||
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On October 24 2016 06:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Last time I waffled on him he was mafia. He felt very agreeable and a bit of a pleaser that game which is not an impression I'm getting from him this game. Can you show me where he's not being very agreeable and a bit of a pleaser? | ||
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On October 21 2016 01:28 WaveofShadow wrote: No its absolutely wrong and obviously so. Nothing stopping mafia from redirecting town KP to town and attempting to make it look like scum protected themselves. And before that quote you said: On October 21 2016 00:45 WaveofShadow wrote: Oh shit I forgot about that. OK let's stack KP on someone by end of day? Actually if we coordinate enough we can kill 2 people maybe (depending on hp and KP amounts?) Maybe we just do one actually. Dandel who you wan me kill? Are people on board for this? People should be on board for this. On October 21 2016 00:47 WaveofShadow wrote: Also iamp I can hit anyone I want so maybe melee/ranged is a thing? PS before anyone starts on me, scum absolutely know all of this already. On October 21 2016 00:58 WaveofShadow wrote: I'm willing to risk the coordination for this I love when people die HF quit being such a JAT and have some fun On October 21 2016 01:01 WaveofShadow wrote: I'm cool with KPing into a small pool though of people are that terrified. Having balanced a game like this before I'm REALLY not that concerned about the strength and consequences of redirecting and whatnot. In fact, there is often a fair amount of info to be gained from it. Most important thing would be not to reveal numbers (ie your hp or how much damage you do) and only reveal how much damage was taken at phase change. What did I miscomprehend? | ||
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