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With regards to JAT...
- Makes a valid point that nobody (myself included) has bothered to make a case against him after Day 1.
- Claims Palmar has not left his mafia range. Seems to think that it is TvS and that the town will make himself obvious.
- Scum-reads Superbia/ Damdred.
- Makes a large post concluding Scott/ Stutters is null.
- Correctly claims that defensiveness is not scum-indicative.
Overall, it's not terrible. I don't think he says anything super-townie/ something mafia would never say but his posts didn't give me the vibe that he was sitting on the sidelines and pushing mafia objectives so I have no complaints.
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On October 08 2016 05:06 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2016 05:04 Calix wrote:
I am of the opinion that the majority of the scum are among the less influential low-posters with one active person who is steering the thread in a direction that they want, so the lurkers are my default scum team for pretty much everyone, lol.
I'll look at JAT, one moment. So 2 of Scott/DDD/Superbia/Koshi (Is he considered a lurkerrr?)/Plamar are scum iyo?
I don't think Koshi is mafia.
But the others, yes. I think Scott should be pressured sometime soon. From what I've seen of his play, he is not much of a talker so I imagine it's difficult to distinguish between his town/ scum play.
Hell, I was scum in a game where he was town and even I was struggling to see town motivation in his posts 
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If you see a "making a joke defense is scummy" post then it's coming from me 90% of the time.
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That's not even tinfoil, that's just stating the obvious - that one of the influential players is scum.
Otherwise there would be a distinct lack of scum manipulation in the thread. From my perspective, this isn't the case.
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Anyway going out now, have fun.
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kk jAT I just have one question and I don't want some ultra-detailed response, just curious. Like how would you sum up what you've done this game and how do you think you've helped the town?
I suck at looking for town motives so let's just ask you.
And I don't want "lol playing like my usual town self" as a response, fuck that. I want evidence from this game. I can't relate to that meta shit and can't get it so why would I sheep it? lol
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On October 08 2016 16:09 scott31337 wrote:
Sorry Damdred, I've had car accidents happen and still was able to at least voice my opinion. My vote is for you.
That's a really bad reason to vote for someone.
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On October 08 2016 17:00 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2016 16:30 Calix wrote:On October 08 2016 16:09 scott31337 wrote:
Sorry Damdred, I've had car accidents happen and still was able to at least voice my opinion. My vote is for you. That's a really bad reason to vote for someone. You're a really bad reason to be alive. I'll shut up, My drunkenness gets me called scummy too often. See you tomorrow!
I think your lack of wit gets you called scummy far more often than your inability to be sober, love.
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But seriously, your progression leading up to your Damdred vote makes no sense.
You make a reads list where he's at "null-town"
You note that he claims to be sick and claim that he doesn't make up excuses.
You go on to scum-read JAT over Palmar and make critical comments at JAT.
...and then you vote Damdred because he isn't posting due to being sick...?
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I still think JAT is the scummiest player in the thread. As flagged up earlier, I get the impression that he just pops in to make leading comments that serve the mafia agenda. It's a Saturday morning so no harm in me reading his filter now.
And I think the other two are among you, Damdred, Superbia because I think the majority of the scum are passive/ lack influence.
You could add Palmar/ Koshi but I think those two are town.
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Okay so JAT's filter (at least the first six pages of it) isn't as terrible as I thought it was going to be, but it's still not amazing. What do you think of him, Marv?
I'm really skeptical over that awful Scott vote. I cannot see how anyone has that thought naturally.
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And JAT actually has some decent posts on Page 8.
The main thing bugging me still are those posts where he downplays town-reads and we've already argued over that. (see Page 10 of his filter) I still cannot think of why town would do that -_- Although he doesn't do it as often as I thought he did so...
zzz, I hate getting cold feet.
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On October 08 2016 18:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
that lurker vote is strong af.
Meaning?
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On Day 1, I town-read him.
I didn't have one for most of Day 2 since he didn't do anything.
Now I'm skeptical because of that horrendous vote.
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Okay but I've yet to see anything from you about how I'm scummy. You are pretty much the only person thinking this at this stage.
Did you see my question about town motivation? I might have been slightly intoxicated when I wrote it but I still want an answer.
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On October 08 2016 21:36 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2016 21:29 Calix wrote:
On Day 1, I town-read him.
I didn't have one for most of Day 2 since he didn't do anything.
Now I'm skeptical because of that horrendous vote. Would you kindly share your opinion on Oats? Personally, my town-read of him is fading out. He asks for others' opinions more than he gives his. He mischaracterizes stuff sometimes. Connects with 1 - no read progression/I don't know why he is voting X. Was pretty defensive over his vote D1 when no accusations against him were made. Much of an overreaction. (NAI) His fake-voting puzzles me. Really.
Funny, I was thinking the same thing re: town-reading him less because I don't remember anything that he's posted today.
As for your points, I don't think asking for opinions a lot is a scum tell. I'll keep the others in mind when rereading.
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Well I'm going out tonight. Don't think I'll be back before the deadline at all.
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On October 08 2016 21:52 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2016 21:29 Calix wrote:
On Day 1, I town-read him.
I didn't have one for most of Day 2 since he didn't do anything.
Now I'm skeptical because of that horrendous vote. I mean, I don't see a single good vote in the train you are leading. Plam is sheeping you, Grack ???, Oats ???, and you are not confident in him being scum anymore. It seems like you just want him lynched to get things cleared though I don't know what exactly. Frankly, I don't know why you scum-read him now. And he makes a good point when he says that no cases were made on him D2 re: if there were cases on him, they are outdated and maybe connect with his interaction with BS who flipped town. So... why do you and the others on the train sr him? Who would your vote be going to otherwise?
I am in the process of reconsidering. Still have a few hours before I leave.
I've already said that the only thing from him which only makes sense from mafia > town is the weird town-read stuff (which has already been covered...as said) and that even though he's done other questionable things, I can see a town explanation for them so I didn't include them.
I'd vote for Scott next and if Scott miraculously proves himself to be super-town then I'm stumped.
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This is me trying not to confirmation-bias myself into Tunnelix btw.
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That's a lovely self-portrait, NU.
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