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Yo. Doesn't look like much happened. What I got was:
- Superbia is really townie given his setup-spec talk and stream-of-consciousness style posting and I don't see scum ever entering the thread like that. Also I agree with the reads he's posted. Palmar's flippancy is also kinda town although that might just be his personality. He wasn't amazingly involved in the setup talk but the way the conversation progressed made me feel good about him.
- Don't like Grackaroni. It feels like he's just hanging on the sidelines; he wasn't very involved in the discussion and most of the posts I read while catching up seemed like he was posting for the sake of looking active. Like there were a lot of places where he could have posted something substantial and he just made some joke comment instead.
- I don't like Tumblewood still.
On September 09 2016 14:03 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2016 11:00 Holyflare wrote:
You shouldn't expect a follow up from Tumblewood that guy is 100% free madia lynch bait.
i'm just not gonna waste 4 hours explaining myself to some scrub who thinks he's caught me in a lie Show nested quote +On September 09 2016 10:23 NeverUnlucky wrote:On September 09 2016 10:21 Tumblewood wrote:
pls stop making me explain myself It's kind of the point of the game. If you have reads but can't express them, no one's going to follow them, and you're as useless as town-Palmar. Explain them. see? it's not even my reads that are unexplained. it's my non-reads. like I have to waste my time explaining why you're all scrubs and I'm not scum for saying something but not drawing a conclusion from it but that makes it seem less bad if it's only one of 8 posts you've seen Show nested quote +On September 09 2016 11:33 fuba wrote:On September 09 2016 09:26 Tumblewood wrote:
fuba also seems pretty cool While I appreciate it, it always makes me uncomfortable when people town read me, especially D1 XD sorry nvm you're scum + Show Spoiler [in case you couldn't tell] +that was a j o k e and I still think he is town can I just complain about new players for a sec? cause I'm reading some posts by NU and he keeps attacking people for being lazy. I get the intentions and that may or not be valid on your home site but here on TL lazy is the meta. it's like a competition for who can look the laziest each game. I want to sheep you hf but after last game I'm paranoid
I'll take "avoiding the main points being raised against me" for £200, Alex.
Add a dose of unnecessary off-topic whining about Teh N00bs. Oh noes.
That last line is really scummy. It's the classic "oh I'll give lip service to lynching X scummy person but then I'll give some bullshit excuse to not follow up on it" scum tactic when the scum feel compelled to talk about their scummy partners but don't actually want to bus them - there is literally NO reason to not vote for Ticktock at this point in time. Paranoia isn't a logical excuse - wouldn't you want to clarify your suspicions by pressuring Ticktock? Why is no-voting better exactly?
- The only point of Holyflare's that I find compelling is Ticktock's contradiction ("I find setup spec boring, here's some setup spec") since it makes his point look like filler. Everything else is just background noise compared to that point imo.
tl;dr: Grackaroni/ Tumblewood/ Ticktock are my scum-reads and the fact that they are low-key defending each other just makes me feel more confident that lynching among these three is the best option.
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On September 09 2016 20:31 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2016 20:26 Calix wrote:Yo. Doesn't look like much happened. What I got was: - Superbia is really townie given his setup-spec talk and stream-of-consciousness style posting and I don't see scum ever entering the thread like that. Also I agree with the reads he's posted. Palmar's flippancy is also kinda town although that might just be his personality. He wasn't amazingly involved in the setup talk but the way the conversation progressed made me feel good about him. - Don't like Grackaroni. It feels like he's just hanging on the sidelines; he wasn't very involved in the discussion and most of the posts I read while catching up seemed like he was posting for the sake of looking active. Like there were a lot of places where he could have posted something substantial and he just made some joke comment instead. - I don't like Tumblewood still. On September 09 2016 14:03 Tumblewood wrote:On September 09 2016 11:00 Holyflare wrote:
You shouldn't expect a follow up from Tumblewood that guy is 100% free madia lynch bait.
i'm just not gonna waste 4 hours explaining myself to some scrub who thinks he's caught me in a lie On September 09 2016 10:23 NeverUnlucky wrote:On September 09 2016 10:21 Tumblewood wrote:
pls stop making me explain myself It's kind of the point of the game. If you have reads but can't express them, no one's going to follow them, and you're as useless as town-Palmar. Explain them. see? it's not even my reads that are unexplained. it's my non-reads. like I have to waste my time explaining why you're all scrubs and I'm not scum for saying something but not drawing a conclusion from it The worst post of this game and I've only read like 8 posts. but that makes it seem less bad if it's only one of 8 posts you've seen On September 09 2016 11:33 fuba wrote:On September 09 2016 09:26 Tumblewood wrote:
fuba also seems pretty cool While I appreciate it, it always makes me uncomfortable when people town read me, especially D1 XD sorry nvm you're scum + Show Spoiler [in case you couldn't tell] +that was a j o k e and I still think he is town can I just complain about new players for a sec? cause I'm reading some posts by NU and he keeps attacking people for being lazy. I get the intentions and that may or not be valid on your home site but here on TL lazy is the meta. it's like a competition for who can look the laziest each game. I want to sheep you hf but after last game I'm paranoid I'll take "avoiding the main points being raised against me" for £200, Alex. Add a dose of unnecessary off-topic whining about Teh N00bs. Oh noes. That last line is really scummy. It's the classic "oh I'll give lip service to lynching X scummy person but then I'll give some bullshit excuse to not follow up on it" scum tactic when the scum feel compelled to talk about their scummy partners but don't actually want to bus them - there is literally NO reason to not vote for Ticktock at this point in time. Paranoia isn't a logical excuse - wouldn't you want to clarify your suspicions by pressuring Ticktock? Why is no-voting better exactly? - The only point of Holyflare's that I find compelling is Ticktock's contradiction ("I find setup spec boring, here's some setup spec") since it makes his point look like filler. Everything else is just background noise compared to that point imo. tl;dr: Grackaroni/ Tumblewood/ Ticktock are my scum-reads and the fact that they are low-key defending each other just makes me feel more confident that lynching among these three is the best option. So: - I'm town - My one townread is town. - All my mafia reads are mafia. Good reads.  In all seriousness, nice pocket regardless of your alignment. Townpass-ish! What do you think of NeverUnlucky? You've played with him before, right?
I have.
He's a scrub but he's town. He's more proactive and abrasive compared to his scum play. He gets mislynched a lot given he's presumptuous, arrogant, prone to trolling, has poor persuasion abilities, etc, so I am not surprised that he's under some suspicion.
I am also 99% sure that he's read like, one or two past games on this site and that's why he's acting like he knows what everyone's meta is. Recently, he read one of my scum games from five months ago and now thinks he's an expert. That's how he rolls.
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On September 09 2016 20:41 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2016 20:37 Calix wrote:On September 09 2016 20:31 Superbia wrote:On September 09 2016 20:26 Calix wrote:Yo. Doesn't look like much happened. What I got was: - Superbia is really townie given his setup-spec talk and stream-of-consciousness style posting and I don't see scum ever entering the thread like that. Also I agree with the reads he's posted. Palmar's flippancy is also kinda town although that might just be his personality. He wasn't amazingly involved in the setup talk but the way the conversation progressed made me feel good about him. - Don't like Grackaroni. It feels like he's just hanging on the sidelines; he wasn't very involved in the discussion and most of the posts I read while catching up seemed like he was posting for the sake of looking active. Like there were a lot of places where he could have posted something substantial and he just made some joke comment instead. - I don't like Tumblewood still. On September 09 2016 14:03 Tumblewood wrote:On September 09 2016 11:00 Holyflare wrote:
You shouldn't expect a follow up from Tumblewood that guy is 100% free madia lynch bait.
i'm just not gonna waste 4 hours explaining myself to some scrub who thinks he's caught me in a lie On September 09 2016 10:23 NeverUnlucky wrote:On September 09 2016 10:21 Tumblewood wrote:
pls stop making me explain myself It's kind of the point of the game. If you have reads but can't express them, no one's going to follow them, and you're as useless as town-Palmar. Explain them. see? it's not even my reads that are unexplained. it's my non-reads. like I have to waste my time explaining why you're all scrubs and I'm not scum for saying something but not drawing a conclusion from it The worst post of this game and I've only read like 8 posts. but that makes it seem less bad if it's only one of 8 posts you've seen On September 09 2016 11:33 fuba wrote:On September 09 2016 09:26 Tumblewood wrote:
fuba also seems pretty cool While I appreciate it, it always makes me uncomfortable when people town read me, especially D1 XD sorry nvm you're scum + Show Spoiler [in case you couldn't tell] +that was a j o k e and I still think he is town can I just complain about new players for a sec? cause I'm reading some posts by NU and he keeps attacking people for being lazy. I get the intentions and that may or not be valid on your home site but here on TL lazy is the meta. it's like a competition for who can look the laziest each game. I want to sheep you hf but after last game I'm paranoid I'll take "avoiding the main points being raised against me" for £200, Alex. Add a dose of unnecessary off-topic whining about Teh N00bs. Oh noes. That last line is really scummy. It's the classic "oh I'll give lip service to lynching X scummy person but then I'll give some bullshit excuse to not follow up on it" scum tactic when the scum feel compelled to talk about their scummy partners but don't actually want to bus them - there is literally NO reason to not vote for Ticktock at this point in time. Paranoia isn't a logical excuse - wouldn't you want to clarify your suspicions by pressuring Ticktock? Why is no-voting better exactly? - The only point of Holyflare's that I find compelling is Ticktock's contradiction ("I find setup spec boring, here's some setup spec") since it makes his point look like filler. Everything else is just background noise compared to that point imo. tl;dr: Grackaroni/ Tumblewood/ Ticktock are my scum-reads and the fact that they are low-key defending each other just makes me feel more confident that lynching among these three is the best option. So: - I'm town - My one townread is town. - All my mafia reads are mafia. Good reads. In all seriousness, nice pocket regardless of your alignment. Townpass-ish! What do you think of NeverUnlucky? You've played with him before, right? I have. He's a scrub but he's town. He's more proactive and abrasive compared to his scum play. He gets mislynched a lot given he's presumptuous, arrogant, prone to trolling, has poor persuasion abilities, etc, so I am not surprised that he's under some suspicion. I am also 99% sure that he's read like, one or two past games on this site and that's why he's acting like he knows what everyone's meta is. Recently, he read one of my scum games from five months ago and now thinks he's an expert. That's how he rolls. Is he prone to be abrasive and yet form no actual opinion on someone? He calls TW 'lynchbait', which suggests he is TRing him, but nothing suggests he is reaching any actual conclusion. Seems weird to put seemingly that much energy/emotion into something but reach no real conclusion.
Oh wait, forgot to add. He is prone to hyperbole ("this Village Idiot making a bad move is LITERALLY GAME-THROWING GUISE") and being emotional about random crap.
Anyway, I think what you're referring to there is his tendency to make 'cutting' comments for the sake of making a cutting comment. Not sure on his intentions with the lynchbait comment - I just assumed that he had decided to read a TW game or something so worth asking about that.
I remember my last game where he was town and he was discrediting one of his town-reads a bunch. Not that I am any better given that I'm calling him a moron and a scrub in this game but it's not scum-indicative of him.
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On September 09 2016 20:54 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2016 20:50 Calix wrote:On September 09 2016 20:41 Superbia wrote:On September 09 2016 20:37 Calix wrote:On September 09 2016 20:31 Superbia wrote:On September 09 2016 20:26 Calix wrote:Yo. Doesn't look like much happened. What I got was: - Superbia is really townie given his setup-spec talk and stream-of-consciousness style posting and I don't see scum ever entering the thread like that. Also I agree with the reads he's posted. Palmar's flippancy is also kinda town although that might just be his personality. He wasn't amazingly involved in the setup talk but the way the conversation progressed made me feel good about him. - Don't like Grackaroni. It feels like he's just hanging on the sidelines; he wasn't very involved in the discussion and most of the posts I read while catching up seemed like he was posting for the sake of looking active. Like there were a lot of places where he could have posted something substantial and he just made some joke comment instead. - I don't like Tumblewood still. On September 09 2016 14:03 Tumblewood wrote:On September 09 2016 11:00 Holyflare wrote:
You shouldn't expect a follow up from Tumblewood that guy is 100% free madia lynch bait.
i'm just not gonna waste 4 hours explaining myself to some scrub who thinks he's caught me in a lie On September 09 2016 10:23 NeverUnlucky wrote:On September 09 2016 10:21 Tumblewood wrote:
pls stop making me explain myself It's kind of the point of the game. If you have reads but can't express them, no one's going to follow them, and you're as useless as town-Palmar. Explain them. see? it's not even my reads that are unexplained. it's my non-reads. like I have to waste my time explaining why you're all scrubs and I'm not scum for saying something but not drawing a conclusion from it The worst post of this game and I've only read like 8 posts. but that makes it seem less bad if it's only one of 8 posts you've seen On September 09 2016 11:33 fuba wrote:On September 09 2016 09:26 Tumblewood wrote:
fuba also seems pretty cool While I appreciate it, it always makes me uncomfortable when people town read me, especially D1 XD sorry nvm you're scum + Show Spoiler [in case you couldn't tell] +that was a j o k e and I still think he is town can I just complain about new players for a sec? cause I'm reading some posts by NU and he keeps attacking people for being lazy. I get the intentions and that may or not be valid on your home site but here on TL lazy is the meta. it's like a competition for who can look the laziest each game. I want to sheep you hf but after last game I'm paranoid I'll take "avoiding the main points being raised against me" for £200, Alex. Add a dose of unnecessary off-topic whining about Teh N00bs. Oh noes. That last line is really scummy. It's the classic "oh I'll give lip service to lynching X scummy person but then I'll give some bullshit excuse to not follow up on it" scum tactic when the scum feel compelled to talk about their scummy partners but don't actually want to bus them - there is literally NO reason to not vote for Ticktock at this point in time. Paranoia isn't a logical excuse - wouldn't you want to clarify your suspicions by pressuring Ticktock? Why is no-voting better exactly? - The only point of Holyflare's that I find compelling is Ticktock's contradiction ("I find setup spec boring, here's some setup spec") since it makes his point look like filler. Everything else is just background noise compared to that point imo. tl;dr: Grackaroni/ Tumblewood/ Ticktock are my scum-reads and the fact that they are low-key defending each other just makes me feel more confident that lynching among these three is the best option. So: - I'm town - My one townread is town. - All my mafia reads are mafia. Good reads. In all seriousness, nice pocket regardless of your alignment. Townpass-ish! What do you think of NeverUnlucky? You've played with him before, right? I have. He's a scrub but he's town. He's more proactive and abrasive compared to his scum play. He gets mislynched a lot given he's presumptuous, arrogant, prone to trolling, has poor persuasion abilities, etc, so I am not surprised that he's under some suspicion. I am also 99% sure that he's read like, one or two past games on this site and that's why he's acting like he knows what everyone's meta is. Recently, he read one of my scum games from five months ago and now thinks he's an expert. That's how he rolls. Is he prone to be abrasive and yet form no actual opinion on someone? He calls TW 'lynchbait', which suggests he is TRing him, but nothing suggests he is reaching any actual conclusion. Seems weird to put seemingly that much energy/emotion into something but reach no real conclusion. Oh wait, forgot to add. He is prone to hyperbole ("this Village Idiot making a bad move is LITERALLY GAME-THROWING GUISE") and being emotional about random crap. Anyway, I think what you're referring to there is his tendency to make 'cutting' comments for the sake of making a cutting comment. Not sure on his intentions with the lynchbait comment - I just assumed that he had decided to read a TW game or something so worth asking about that. I remember my last game where he was town and he was discrediting one of his town-reads a bunch. Not that I am any better given that I'm calling him a moron and a scrub in this game but it's not scum-indicative of him. What's his scum-game like?
If you can call NU's reactive, apathetic, fearful posting style that is devoid of any scum-hunting a scum 'game', then ten minutes of hailstones can be classified as an avalanche.
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I sure hope Grackaroni Dearest is working on some amazing post after he just proved my earlier point with 378 and 380 
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On September 09 2016 21:53 Grackaroni wrote:
No I'm just posting here while I do my homework thereby accomplishing neither while increasing the fun of both. That also means I haven't and will not sleep today, which means you should expect a greater amount of uselessness than usual. Then you should square that uselessness when I'm in the presence of Palmar and/or Shapelog.
Anyway, if there's anything specifically you want me to comment on, I'll do so.
I've had three hours of sleep, which is my norm, and I am still contributing.
I'm not fishing for content for you to comment on when that's your job. Town should not reach out to a player, the player should reach out to the Town.
The lack of initiative is real.
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With regards to Skynx, I was like "oh shit, he's actually in the game" when he said he was going to catch up.
Then I remembered that a certain someone made this post about him...
On September 09 2016 09:51 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2016 07:00 NeverUnlucky wrote:On September 09 2016 06:46 Vivax wrote:On September 09 2016 06:37 Calix wrote:
It doesn't look like you guys do RVS and I don't relate to the few posts being made so far, so I'l just chip in with some thoughts on the setup. Not seeing anything particularly eye-popping aside from the following:
- Names aren't allowed in Last Wills but if you wanted to reference a player (e.g., say you're a Sheriff-Vig who wanted to say "I checked X/ this player is innocent/ guilty") then you could quote some post numbers by said player, quote something they said, etc. I don't think LWs will be that useful for the protectives unless nobody died on a certain night because telling the scum who was protected last night in the event of a kill just needlessly gives the scum information on what the healing roles are thinking. If anyone knows what the Doctor roles would even need to tell the town (aside from telling us who they scum-read or something) then I'm all ears.
- There's always the chance that the scum can interfere with the message being given. Although they can only rewrite LWs twice, we can't rely on the LWs much but I think it's good to establish a way for the dead townies to communicate with the rest of the thread because I'm not seeing a way that the scum manipulation of the LWs/ votes can be prevented.
- We might want to be careful with policy lynching apathetic/ inactive players or being sloppy with CFDs in general. I've been told that TL is more open to policy lynches compared to where I come from, but since lynched players become Sheriff-Vigs, I think it would be suboptimal play to give lazy players a KPN in the early stages. This point might be moot, however, as I don't know how anyone here plays or if anyone would qualify as policy-lynch material. (save for NU who I wouldn't consider a policy lynch)
Anyway, hi. It's pretty late for me so if I randomly drop off, don't be surprised. Bolded seems like fluff tbh cause you don't seem to have any own ideas to contribute for this part. "we have to find out what to do" . Who would've thought. Your last point is also pretty uninformative. It's like you're suggesting not to lynch. Doesn't look as bad as your second though. But still. You get a bit of benefit of the doubt for this being your first game here, but if somebody is meh for me right now it's you. Also, she infered that town had PRs before they were lynched which shows she didn't correctly read the setup. It's NAI, but To add to your point about her fluff: she used words like "we" -- Scum tend to use those words more than town to fit in the group. Scum!Calix uses "we" a lot. She ends her post with an excuse to why she wouldn't post in the upcoming hours. It's something scum tends to do more, but it still is NAI. Scum-reading Calix. @Vivax, don't give me or her the benefit of the doubt because we're "new", we aren't. We're both familiar to mafia. Giving either of us (especially her) a chance, it could be all we need to fly under your radar. I like this guy, this is a solid post.
Contrast to Skynx here Show nested quote +On September 09 2016 07:01 Skynx wrote:
Nothing good on tv/twitch and you guys are no fun, I'm offski to bed. First to post, been around, fucks off without saying anything and right about when things start happening.
...and this is a pre-flip but it makes me feel a little bit better about Skynx as this feels like Tictock is throwing shade on Skynx as opposed to giving a legit read. Just the way he compares two players gives me that vibe. Not a strong point though.
Other than that, I'm unimpressed.
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Skynx COULD be mafia, sure, but I think my current scum team theory holds more weight. Granted, this will almost-always be the case because Skynx has not interacted with anyone so we'll see how he changes things if at all.
I think this post relating to Grack/ TW/ TT are telling though. This was kind of what pinged me when I was catching up earlier. It felt like Grack/ TW were ganging up on HF with shoddy reasoning once TT was under fire.
TW's 'paranoia' seems so damned convenient because it reads like he's wielding it to push back against HF.
On September 09 2016 17:00 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2016 14:11 Tumblewood wrote:On September 09 2016 12:40 Grackaroni wrote:
No but seriously. Since when is saying "I like this post" forced. What are you smoking HF? thank you for calling hf out. this is part of the reason I am paranoid. his claims come off as kinda skewed to fit his conclusion. not enough to pin him down as mafia though. grack, you can be town for now because you also had one post that made me laugh earlier That's pretty much my goal every game. I'm done crafting long posts at the start of games. I'm at the same place as you on Holyflare though. His case (removing the "I like this post" part) essentially states: *Ticktock made a wifomy entrance post. *Ticktock stated he dislikes talking about setups and then talked about the setup, which is a contradiction, but he'll have to sell me on why it's a scummy one. Would the post be scummy if he made his post without stating that setup discussion is boring? Also, to end up here after reading the posts seems like he's going way overboard. Show nested quote +On September 09 2016 10:48 Holyflare wrote:
I will never in 1000 fiery years vote anyone other than ticktock today.
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On September 09 2016 22:41 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2016 22:37 Holyflare wrote:
Like people picking up on the semantics of the wording are bad and should feel bad. Sure he didn't say that mechanics are useless but his mindset is off from what he's actually posting and it looks solely like he's trying to skate by with low content posts. But which is it?! Is he trying to skate by with low content posts or is he not coming back from dinner? He did have a better start in that last game. If he's actually just bad at playing as mafia I'll vote him. Also I did not hard defend him. What I did is what we call in the business a "chain saw defense." The idea is to hit the accuser with the chain saw while the other scummer has him distracted.
"I didn't defend him that hard, I just enacted a type of defense which is where I attack the accuser even though I haven't stated a town-read on the accused."
That's what I just got out of your post.
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On September 09 2016 22:50 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2016 22:45 Calix wrote:On September 09 2016 22:41 Grackaroni wrote:On September 09 2016 22:37 Holyflare wrote:
Like people picking up on the semantics of the wording are bad and should feel bad. Sure he didn't say that mechanics are useless but his mindset is off from what he's actually posting and it looks solely like he's trying to skate by with low content posts. But which is it?! Is he trying to skate by with low content posts or is he not coming back from dinner? He did have a better start in that last game. If he's actually just bad at playing as mafia I'll vote him. Also I did not hard defend him. What I did is what we call in the business a "chain saw defense." The idea is to hit the accuser with the chain saw while the other scummer has him distracted. "I didn't defend him that hard, I just enacted a type of defense which is where I attack the accuser even though I haven't stated a town-read on the accused." That's what I just got out of your post. No but there's a key distinction here. In my opinion for it to be a hard defense I would have to provide arguments NOT to lynch ticktock. I did no such thing. My game plan was much more subtle. Here I avoided the hard defense trap while still landing a powerful blow.
Well what is your read on Ticktock then? You haven't made your stance on him clear.
What is your point with your last line? Why would you need to 'avoid a trap' anyway?
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On September 09 2016 23:39 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2016 23:34 NeverUnlucky wrote:On September 09 2016 22:22 Skynx wrote:
Am i actually getting accused for going to sleep and posting for sake of posting on first hour of the game? Nice misrep, zzz. quality post here guys give him tcred asap
I wasn't aware that you were available to post until you decided to comment on someone talking about you.
Anything else you want to add at this time?
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On September 09 2016 23:47 Vivax wrote:Are HF and super actually willing to call skynx mafia? Cause that's what TT said too, who could also be mafia. Show nested quote +On September 09 2016 09:51 Tictock wrote:Contrast to Skynx here On September 09 2016 07:01 Skynx wrote:
Nothing good on tv/twitch and you guys are no fun, I'm offski to bed. First to post, been around, fucks off without saying anything and right about when things start happening. TT feels like he's imitating players from last game (trfel, Palmar). so far But certainly I don't see anything that looks forced like HF claims. Not really a fan of that wagon, while fuba is. But maybe fuba just doesn't know the context of the scum claim and the argument on skynx. And TT isn't that stupid to not expect people from last game to notice.
1. TT didn't say that Skynx was mafia. He just made a comment expressing suspicion about something Skynx had done. That's not the same thing. Also I already made this point earlier.
2. What is your point with fuba? I'm not sure what you are arguing here or why you mentioned him at all.
3. 'TT isn't that stupid' - Poor argument that implies that you subscribe to "too scummy to be scum". Get a better one please.
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NU vs Skynx is getting dumb. All I'm seeing is NU conflating contribution with alignment and Skynx getting annoyed.
NU, maybe back off and see what Skynx does when they finish catching up/ are not playing Overwatch or what the fuck ever and then resume this.
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On September 10 2016 00:06 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2016 00:03 Calix wrote:
NU vs Skynx is getting dumb. All I'm seeing is NU conflating contribution with alignment and Skynx getting annoyed.
NU, maybe back off and see what Skynx does when they finish catching up/ are not playing Overwatch or what the fuck ever and then resume this. Alright. In the meantime, what are your reads?
Already explained my scum reads. Not hurling up a reads list for the hell of it when all that does is give scum more information than necessary on how I operate.
Ask a more specific question if you actually want to pry into my alignment. "What are your reads" is the most basic bitch type of question that only makes people regurgitate opinions without noting anything new.
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On September 10 2016 00:12 Palmar wrote:
Oh, are you two are being serious? I can't tell.
tl;dr: TT/ TW/ Grack for scum. Not sure on Vivax and Skynx.
Everyone else is either a town-read or "town by statistical probability because they haven't done anything scummy" and I don't care too much to differentiate unless one of my legit town-reads gets trained or something.
Really elaborate stuff as I'm sure you can see.
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On September 10 2016 00:49 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2016 00:03 Calix wrote:
NU vs Skynx is getting dumb. All I'm seeing is NU conflating contribution with alignment and Skynx getting annoyed.
NU, maybe back off and see what Skynx does when they finish catching up/ are not playing Overwatch or what the fuck ever and then resume this. truth nu vs. skynx is TvT. as long as skynx isn't voting me I will sheep him because I am 90ish percent sure he's town and his voting record is about twice as good as mine. this subject to change if/when I lose confidence in that read or get pissed at someone
Why is Skynx a strong town-read for you?
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Vivax, if you had to pick two scum-reads and two town-reads, who would you pick?
And why? (for the scum-reads at least)
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On September 10 2016 01:06 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2016 01:02 Calix wrote:
Vivax, if you had to pick two scum-reads and two town-reads, who would you pick?
And why? (for the scum-reads at least) I feel like calling you an incredibly massive hypocrite and in fact I am. But you're from the UK so I'll let it slide.
No.
It's not hypocritical when a) Vivax has not explicitly stated his scum-reads (whereas I did) and b) I only asked for explanations for his scum-reads, not town.
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On September 10 2016 01:11 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2016 01:10 Calix wrote:On September 10 2016 01:06 Holyflare wrote:On September 10 2016 01:02 Calix wrote:
Vivax, if you had to pick two scum-reads and two town-reads, who would you pick?
And why? (for the scum-reads at least) I feel like calling you an incredibly massive hypocrite and in fact I am. But you're from the UK so I'll let it slide. No. It's not hypocritical when a) Vivax has not explicitly stated his scum-reads (whereas I did) and b) I only asked for explanations for his scum-reads, not town. It's still hypocritical, lol.
Strong counterargument. I am utterly hapless to defend myself.
Tell me where Vivax has made his town/ scum-reads clear in his ISO and I'll recant.
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Also the reason I asked Vivax for reads was because he made another comment (re: Skynx) where it seemed like he was suspecting Skynx but he hadn't actually said as much. I wanted some definitive positions from that slot because I was finding it hard to tell wherever Vivax was actually commenting on scum-reads or was throwing shade or whatever.
I'm glad I did because I'm not impressed with yet another person saying "NU/ Calix are both town" (which almost everyone agrees with, thus it's a safe position to take) complete with town-reading GRACK and having one scum-read on someone that he's only recently started to push.
And the cherry on the cake is remaining neutral in the TT/ TW debate. I don't see how you can have no insight on those two by now.
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