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Jealous
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
On September 24 2016 08:04 Xatalos wrote: Unfortunately, looks like you can't vote for yourself in this setup :/ To everyone else, this is why we should lynch him today. He's always one step ahead, we'll never catch him. On a more serious note, how does everyone feel about going with the scummiest of the inevitable inactives? Activity always seems to be a struggle in these games and I won't be lynchbait for once. | ||
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Jealous
10260 Posts
On September 24 2016 08:19 Stutters695 wrote: To everyone else, this is why we should lynch him today. He's always one step ahead, we'll never catch him. On a more serious note, how does everyone feel about going with the scummiest of the inevitable inactives? Activity always seems to be a struggle in these games and I won't be lynchbait for once. I'm usually pro-PL but it's too early to make such a decision. We need to see how others are posting. It's odd that you suggest this so early. | ||
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Calix
3379 Posts
Threaten to lynch the scummy low-post players so that they post more. Threaten to vig the idiotic players so that they get smart. Even if there's no vig, nobody knows that so it forces the scum to post constructively and often or get fucked. Also means you don't stick yourself down in a policy lynch like an hour in, lol. The end. | ||
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
On September 24 2016 08:21 Jealous wrote: I'm usually pro-PL but it's too early to make such a decision. We need to see how others are posting. It's odd that you suggest this so early. This is how I get reactions (or saying something controversial then lurking and waiting for reactions, but you don't want that). Obviously I don't want to lynch a lurker though because I want to lynch Xata. | ||
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DanelerH
96 Posts
On September 24 2016 08:21 Jealous wrote: I'm usually pro-PL but it's too early to make such a decision. We need to see how others are posting. It's odd that you suggest this so early. This, plus there's Shutter's first post: On September 24 2016 07:46 Stutters695 wrote: I'm here and not scum. How disappointing. Anyway, as it stands I'd be all for a d1 Xata lynch. Pretty sure he's fooled me like the last 3 times he's been mafia and that's no good. It's not technically a role claim, but it's certainly something unnecessary to say. Why would your first sentence be the equivalent of "I'm not a Mafia."? While it's nothing definite, it seems rather odd to me. | ||
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Calix
3379 Posts
On September 24 2016 08:26 Stutters695 wrote: This is how I get reactions (or saying something controversial then lurking and waiting for reactions, but you don't want that). Obviously I don't want to lynch a lurker though because I want to lynch Xata. You only got two responses before claiming it was a reaction-test? | ||
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Jealous
10260 Posts
On September 24 2016 08:26 Stutters695 wrote: This is how I get reactions (or saying something controversial then lurking and waiting for reactions, but you don't want that). Obviously I don't want to lynch a lurker though because I want to lynch Xata. Huh. So what do you get out of this tactic? | ||
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Jealous
10260 Posts
On September 24 2016 08:24 Calix wrote: It's pretty obvious how you deal with inactives. Threaten to lynch the scummy low-post players so that they post more. Threaten to vig the idiotic players so that they get smart. Even if there's no vig, nobody knows that so it forces the scum to post constructively and often or get fucked. Also means you don't stick yourself down in a policy lynch like an hour in, lol. The end. Sounds like a good plan to me. | ||
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Jealous
10260 Posts
On September 24 2016 08:29 Jealous wrote: Huh. So what did you get out of this tactic? EBWOP do -> did | ||
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
On September 24 2016 08:28 Calix wrote: You only got two responses before claiming it was a reaction-test? My dear Watson, the game is afoot. That does seem kind of counterproductive in retrospect. I think this is the part though where you guys debate if I'm terrible, trying to come off as terrible while scum or part of some master play. | ||
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Calix
3379 Posts
@Daneler, were you going anywhere with your entrance post? All you did was agree with Jealous and point out that Stutters' entrance is odd. | ||
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Jealous
10260 Posts
On September 24 2016 08:36 Stutters695 wrote: My dear Watson, the game is afoot. That does seem kind of counterproductive in retrospect. I think this is the part though where you guys debate if I'm terrible, trying to come off as terrible while scum or part of some master play. Confused as to why you would intentionally create such a scenario in the first place if you acknowledge less than 5 minutes later that it was a terrible choice. It's not like you got any smarter in between then and now. | ||
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DanelerH
96 Posts
On September 24 2016 08:39 Calix wrote: I daresay that cutting short a potential avenue for conversation is counterproductive to your stated aim of getting reactions. Did you get anything from Jealous and I? @Daneler, were you going anywhere with your entrance post? All you did was agree with Jealous and point out that Stutters' entrance is odd. I use "odd" and "strange" for I find something that might warrant suspicion, so that's what I was going with. Admittedly, not a strong lead, but I was hoping it would go somewhere. | ||
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Calix
3379 Posts
On September 24 2016 08:47 DanelerH wrote: I use "odd" and "strange" for I find something that might warrant suspicion, so that's what I was going with. Admittedly, not a strong lead, but I was hoping it would go somewhere. The best person to make things 'go somewhere' is yourself, dear. Expecting others to do the work is never going to work out and only demonstrates a lack of initiative. Since you proposed this line of thought, why do you think scum would open a post by claiming "non-scum" over say, "town" or not claiming at all or what have you? | ||
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
On September 24 2016 08:39 Jealous wrote: Confused as to why you would intentionally create such a scenario in the first place if you acknowledge less than 5 minutes later that it was a terrible choice. It's not like you got any smarter in between then and now. I'm older and thus wiser. The findings are TBD btw. Rest assured, I have top men on it. If you had to guess, why do you think I did it? | ||
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DanelerH
96 Posts
On September 24 2016 08:50 Calix wrote: The best person to make things 'go somewhere' is yourself, dear. Expecting others to do the work is never going to work out and only demonstrates a lack of initiative. Since you proposed this line of thought, why do you think scum would open a post by claiming "non-scum" over say, "town" or not claiming at all or what have you? I see no reason for Town to claim anything. They only care about getting the Mafia lynched. Mafia, however, wants Town to think they're also Town. By saying "I'm not Mafia" or "I'm Town", they can attempt to establish it early on, which is why I find it to be something that warrants suspicion. | ||
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Calix
3379 Posts
On September 24 2016 08:56 DanelerH wrote: I see no reason for Town to claim anything. They only care about getting the Mafia lynched. Mafia, however, wants Town to think they're also Town. By saying "I'm not Mafia" or "I'm Town", they can attempt to establish it early on, which is why I find it to be something that warrants suspicion. That's something you're characterising as not-town to do, not mafia. Question. Does your logic also apply to claiming a TPR? (so if a person claimed TPR, would you suspect them because you see no reason for town to claim and if not, why? Just curious because it sounds like that is what you are implying here) Otherwise I like how this answer was set out. Simple and direct. | ||
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DanelerH
96 Posts
On September 24 2016 09:02 Calix wrote: That's something you're characterising as not-town to do, not mafia. Question. Does your logic also apply to claiming a TPR? (so if a person claimed TPR, would you suspect them because you see no reason for town to claim and if not, why? Just curious because it sounds like that is what you are implying here) Otherwise I like how this answer was set out. Simple and direct. Not always. If it's at the beginning of the game, I have no reason to trust the claim. If it's later in the game, then I'll continue looking into other people, but keep a watch on the TPR claim (especially if there's a counter-claim, in which case one of them has to be Mafia). | ||
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
On September 24 2016 09:06 DanelerH wrote: Not always. If it's at the beginning of the game, I have no reason to trust the claim. If it's later in the game, then I'll continue looking into other people, but keep a watch on the TPR claim (especially if there's a counter-claim, in which case one of them has to be Mafia). Sup what do you think of what I've done so far? | ||
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