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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 01 2016 22:16 GMT
#1289
Not voting (4) - geript, TicTock, Tumblewood, Palmar

Kinda says a lot about the state of the game/mafia team.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 01 2016 23:48 GMT
#1291
Dunno if I'll be around after work tomorrow can I trust you to maintain course?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 02 2016 07:21 GMT
#1301
Sorry Tumblewood next time I'll just afk and not point out the scummiest mindset of all.

And you're right geript, I hate your post.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 02 2016 07:28 GMT
#1302
Also what do you mean vivax feels less active? He's like the most active guy in the thread?

What's your reason for mafia reading him exactly? That he's just not tinfoil enough?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 02 2016 07:30 GMT
#1303
Urghhh it just feels like you don't give a crap about the game and decided to make a shit meta read post that's totally unrelated to what's actually happening??

Have you read ticktock's filter/vote or is it just blanket "these guys probably town for afking"?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 02 2016 07:38 GMT
#1305
Koshi

And it just smells of TMI "youare all on the wrong track but here is a bullshit case on scott that I want you all to gobble up" And we did...

Speeding this thing up due to having other things to do:
Everything else Vivax did that day was push his scott ml while cheering on the TW ml.


How can vivax's case on scott look like tmi but it's a scott mislynch? If it's tmi scott is mafia?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 02 2016 08:16 GMT
#1317
not that bad lynches
scott (probably the worst of these 4)
geript
tt
palmar

I think 2 or 3 scum are in that second pool. scott and dane can sorta be their own category in the middle if I felt like it, and maybe hf can join them



Why is there a qualification next to my name when the two people I'm pushing the most are the people you think are mafia?

I also really, really hate that you're calling out my read on palmar for being repeated when nobody but dane acknowledged it AND he's your scum read. It's so misplaced and just doesn't fit with the rest of the post or your reads.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 02 2016 09:15 GMT
#1321
Don't remember tt posting for almost 3 days
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 02 2016 09:19 GMT
#1322
Also beginning to hate tw because omgus even though it's not even a scum read on me??
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 02 2016 10:28 GMT
#1323
Fook sake i can't play afk mafia without back and forth chatting
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 02 2016 12:18 GMT
#1327
On September 02 2016 18:19 Holyflare wrote:
Also beginning to hate tw because omgus even though it's not even a scum read on me??


Ahhh this bugs me so much????? Not only was I the ONLY one to try and save him at deadline day 1 AFTER making a case on him which ordinarily I'd just make everyone follow but I've given him like 1 1/2 cycles to play and give him leeway but I'm a random side mafia lean with a whole post dedicated to trashing a GOOD read on his scum read.

Mafia really are only dropping weak as shit mafia reads on me. He's next lynch if I die plz.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 02 2016 13:20 GMT
#1333
On September 02 2016 22:04 Tictock wrote:
For reference, someone who actually put more than a few minuets looking at something.

Show nested quote +
On August 31 2016 17:00 Trfel wrote:
Tictock

Tictock's end of day looks really bad. He makes a lot of posts talking about how much he wants to lynch Tumblewood and how scummy he thinks Tumblewood is:
+ Show Spoiler [Examples] +
On August 31 2016 05:16 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2016 02:15 Palmar wrote:
fuck it TW actually sounds kind of like town. I'm going back to geript.


What about his responses make you think he's town?

Honestly at this point I feel like he just came back and started defending himself, but really has nothing to add. Hell the fact that he's coping out and voting Scott here and totally dropping the push on me really makes me want to lynch him.
On August 31 2016 05:36 Tictock wrote:
I'm pretty happy to be lynching Tumble honestly.

Nothing he's posted in the past few hours says anything, and he's mostly just whining about how he's not really playing his scum meta.

I get the scumreads on Dane but I feel like he's much more a roll of the die than Tumble who is like 95% likely to flip mafia here imo. Like I get why some of his posts are triggering alarms but I feel like he is putting in effort.

Scott is still a tough one for me this game. Palmar flip-flopping from geript to Tumble and then back to Geript is worth raising an eyebrow or two at, but is not something I care to dig into right now.
On August 31 2016 05:41 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2016 05:40 Tumblewood wrote:
honestly I really want to lynch Koshi right now
or maybe hf
circa 20 minutes from now it should strike everyone as really weird that my wagon formed so easily and didn't budge even when things changed


Nothing has changed, expect more and more people realizing you rolled mafia this game.
On August 31 2016 05:43 Tictock wrote:
Deadline is so close... I think I'm going back to Legion.

I want Tumble to be the lynch today, so plz no last min shenannies. Dane is a worse lynch than Tumble.

But he switches to Rels anyway.
On August 31 2016 06:41 Tictock wrote:
I hate myself for caving to pressure.

Sorry Rels.
And he blames it on caving into pressure. Given how much he talked about wanting to lynch Tumblewood and not shenanigan, even after Rels posted all of his most scummy stuff at EoD, this is the most plausible explanation if Tictock is indeed town. But it still doesn't seem very solid at all.

Other than this End of Day stuff I kind of like Tictock's play? So I'm not sure what to make of this yet.



I know that unflipped associations are really stupid, but if scott31337 is mafia, Tictock's play looks far more suspicious. Here's the vote count before Tictock's vote switch:
On August 31 2016 05:58 beentheredonethat wrote:
Day 1: Vote Count #7



Votes:
  • Rels (4) - Palmar, Vivax, scott31337, disformation, Koshi, Tictock, Holyflare, disformation, Koshi, Tumblewood
  • Trfel (0) - disformation
  • disformation (0) - Holyflare, Koshi, geript
  • Tumblewood (2) - Koshi, Koshi, Holyflare, scott31337, Tictock, Palmar, disformation, disformation, Trfel
  • Koshi (0) - DanelerH
  • geript (1) - Palmar, disformation, DanelerH, Palmar, Tumblewood
  • scott31337 (4) - Vivax, Rels, Trfel, DanelerH, Trfel, Tumblewood
  • TicTock (0) - Tumblewood
  • Vivax (1) - disformation, Race Bannon
  • DanelerH (1) - geript

Not voting: -
Currently, scott31337 is set to be lynched.
Tictock's vote was really important in sealing the lynch as Rels, instead of scott31337. He could maybe have predicted Palmar switching votes to Rels, but relying on other people to switch would be a huge risk. So if scott31337 flips mafia, Tictock looks a lot worse. Even if scott31337 flips town, his End of Day makes me a bit suspicious about him.



You realise what you've quoted here is trfel putting in unnecessary words to what I already said? You said you didn't want to switch, you looked like you didn't want to switch and then you switched.

Trfel explains what I did in 3 quotes but with 4 long paragraphs instead. You then go on to further say that me not doing anything with the vca is bad but also say that me accusing you because of the vca is bad. Congratulations.

Are you going to cherry pick more of my posts or actually admit that I'm town now? I'm only on a phone at work for 90% of my game playing time so quoting a lot is already an unnecessary hassle but you're welcome to ask me questions instead of shit flinging and I will personally take my time elaborating everything that I thought at the time of each post/moment in the game.

If you're unclear about scott it's because he looked happy day 1 but then when I returned to the thread that's all I had in my mind, vivax's case wasn't so convincing over my happiness read. End of day 1 I only had an hour or less to read over and convince myself about tumble being really mafia or if I wanted to switch. Rels allowed me to and I love a good shenanigan for information and tumble was yelling and looked vaguely townie whereas rels just posted responses and no original thought really. Scott did absolutely nothing and yet actually WAS around at the deadline and then vanished which always emotionally makes me think that person is mafia. From a purely vca standpoint he looked mafka and trfel's case i read that and somewhat agreed with it at some point around then iirc.

His play so far probably makes him mafia and there's no spreadsheet still so almost definitely. Unless you're trying to dispute this point in which case I will yell at you for tmi and kill you today.

Any more inconsistencies you want explained good sir? I like nipping things in the bud so you can't perpetually fling shit at me later.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 02 2016 13:23 GMT
#1334
Not to mention that you link trfel's post saying that if scott is mafia then you are mafia which I have also posted
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 02 2016 13:54 GMT
#1335
Look TT I'll be real with you, I've only briefly elaborated about your filter but to surmise:

You only really had low level analysis reads

Your posts had no real substance

Your reads are essentially just a list post with pictures

Your vote looked absolutely terrible and it's nothing to do
with rels flipping town it's about the mindset people had to switch and yours is very much broadcasted to the thread that you didn't want to in comparison to everyone else that just yolo sheeps.

You decided to fuck off instead of help town and only return towards the end of the day to fling crap at one of the towniest players again.

Minor association with scott (major too).

I get that you went to play wow or whatever and posted approximately 0 things and basically intentionally wasted our time because you can most definitely post at least 1 line of words in a thread when you're playing a pc game. So basically you had 0 interest in helping solve the game leading to the demise of town talking when you are one of the huge ?. You've said nothing about the CURRENT wagon that we're on but just instead decide to do something useless.

I'm struggling to see why you are town.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 02 2016 14:14 GMT
#1338
On September 02 2016 23:05 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2016 17:16 Holyflare wrote:
not that bad lynches
scott (probably the worst of these 4)
geript
tt
palmar

I think 2 or 3 scum are in that second pool. scott and dane can sorta be their own category in the middle if I felt like it, and maybe hf can join them



Why is there a qualification next to my name when the two people I'm pushing the most are the people you think are mafia?

I also really, really hate that you're calling out my read on palmar for being repeated when nobody but dane acknowledged it AND he's your scum read. It's so misplaced and just doesn't fit with the rest of the post or your reads.

because I don't care about it even a tenth as much as you do. and I disagree that Palmar would never do that as town


So a town palmar would call me mafia but not do anything about it? I think it would be Christmas for palmar to push this if he was town. It's the meek cba palmar that makes him mafia imo.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 02 2016 14:16 GMT
#1339
Like Palmar afk is staple town palmar and palmar cba is staple town palmar but palmar thinking Holyflare is mafia and afking doesn't feel right to me.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 02 2016 14:32 GMT
#1342
On September 02 2016 23:26 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2016 00:31 Tumblewood wrote:
Palmar is acting unusually for him, but that's not necessarily mafia. not quite sure how to feel about it; I'm used to wagon of justice Palmar and all I get this game is normal player Palmar. and the no brakes train to loseville sounds like it fits pretty well with my playstyle.

Show nested quote +
On September 02 2016 14:37 Tumblewood wrote:
hf can u shut up about how palmar sheeped koshi but blah blah blah you made it first or whatever? it is not leading anywhere. maybe it's correct but I'd like to think it's a broken clock except it still yells TICK TICK TICK and at the top of every hour a cuckoo pops out and yells PALMAR'S SCUM! and it's still only right twice a day

Show nested quote +
On September 02 2016 14:40 Tumblewood wrote:
I can definitely see the thought process behind me being afk for large chunks of time -> mafia, but not so much for palmar because he is afk frequently and as both alignments. he's also not that afk compared to tt.

Show nested quote +
On September 02 2016 23:05 Tumblewood wrote:
On September 02 2016 17:16 Holyflare wrote:
not that bad lynches
scott (probably the worst of these 4)
geript
tt
palmar

I think 2 or 3 scum are in that second pool. scott and dane can sorta be their own category in the middle if I felt like it, and maybe hf can join them



Why is there a qualification next to my name when the two people I'm pushing the most are the people you think are mafia?

I also really, really hate that you're calling out my read on palmar for being repeated when nobody but dane acknowledged it AND he's your scum read. It's so misplaced and just doesn't fit with the rest of the post or your reads.

because I don't care about it even a tenth as much as you do. and I disagree that Palmar would never do that as town

Show nested quote +
On September 02 2016 23:12 Tumblewood wrote:
it scares me how easily the wagon on Palmar built up and how stubborn it is. you know what attitude really benefits scum if he flips town? "let's lynch Palmar and if he's town we give up". not to mention that tt and I were afk for >36 hours and only got one vote each, when normally that would make us the leading wagons.



It actually is 5. All on the last page of your filter. Which is probably last 36 hours?


But your scumlist:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2016 14:55 Tumblewood wrote:
I swear I could make a palmar post generator. just input [random quote] "worst post in the game" [other quote] "100% mafia. there's clearly a thought process but I just don't see it most of the time.
ANYWAY. my best guess at a read is that palmar is scum because a) wrong on d1 though shenannies kinda don't count and b) usually as town he falls somewhere in the middle of the scale on arrogance or the very extreme high end, and right now he is on the low side. maybe worth letting him live in case mafia decides to kill him n2 for being palmar. legit thought
ok. where I'm at right now is:
can be excluded from the scum pool
trfel
hf, I think
koshi as soon as he says he'll stop posting and then keeps posting
vivax
dane, for now

not that bad lynches
scott (probably the worst of these 4)
geript
tt
palmar

I think 2 or 3 scum are in that second pool. scott and dane can sorta be their own category in the middle if I felt like it, and maybe hf can join them

Still got Palmar in there as lock mafia.



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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 02 2016 15:25 GMT
#1362
On September 02 2016 23:57 Tictock wrote:
Holyflare:

Show nested quote +
On September 01 2016 09:14 Holyflare wrote:
I will lynch any of palmar/ticktock today. I don't think much has changed for me to be honest, dane looking a but townier with the last post, scott falling off the face of the earth makes me contemplate joining the wagon of purity. I mean one of his posts was just a list post that wasn't even a list, more vote count colouring. Will read into him more.

Uhhh, still anti anything palmar says obviously :D

Like, there's a roughly 0% chance palmar joins a tw wagon and likes koshi's case but doesn't realise i made it first and he's sheeping me but ignores that and says I've done nothing :D


I really hate this post, especially given HF's read on Scott is ever-changing and never backed up.

Combined with how he played EoD into night I think there is a solid chance HF is mafia. Kinda slowplayed D1, got really right at EoD to push Rels, into some quick accusations and a lot of activity at night but not much thought or analysis being done. I stand by my original VoD selection + Show Spoiler +
, HF is a whole lotta words without much substance this game.




Show nested quote +
On September 01 2016 09:57 Holyflare wrote:
Lol why do you think i force people to call me town? It's so I can concentrate and not get distracted. Hence mafia palmar trying to tilt me into an argument to fit his "meta" crap post he posted earlier about me.

Basically the people that are mafia this game are the ones that are just calling me mafia-ish with no real conviction and leaving the door open for later (ticktock) and the guy with no real conviction to lynch anyone and calls me mafia for what reason exactly? which is not normal (palmar)

+probably scott but maybe not but probably


This is a vast misrepresentation of my play. I called HF null into town-reading him.




Show nested quote +
On September 02 2016 21:18 Holyflare wrote:
On September 02 2016 18:19 Holyflare wrote:
Also beginning to hate tw because omgus even though it's not even a scum read on me??


Ahhh this bugs me so much????? Not only was I the ONLY one to try and save him at deadline day 1 AFTER making a case on him which ordinarily I'd just make everyone follow but I've given him like 1 1/2 cycles to play and give him leeway but I'm a random side mafia lean with a whole post dedicated to trashing a GOOD read on his scum read.

Mafia really are only dropping weak as shit mafia reads on me. He's next lynch if I die plz.


Actually, why would he do this as mafia? What on earth does he gain from it given his position this game?



Show nested quote +
On September 02 2016 22:20 Holyflare wrote:
On September 02 2016 22:04 Tictock wrote:
For reference, someone who actually put more than a few minuets looking at something.

On August 31 2016 17:00 Trfel wrote:
Tictock

Tictock's end of day looks really bad. He makes a lot of posts talking about how much he wants to lynch Tumblewood and how scummy he thinks Tumblewood is:
+ Show Spoiler [Examples] +
On August 31 2016 05:16 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2016 02:15 Palmar wrote:
fuck it TW actually sounds kind of like town. I'm going back to geript.


What about his responses make you think he's town?

Honestly at this point I feel like he just came back and started defending himself, but really has nothing to add. Hell the fact that he's coping out and voting Scott here and totally dropping the push on me really makes me want to lynch him.
On August 31 2016 05:36 Tictock wrote:
I'm pretty happy to be lynching Tumble honestly.

Nothing he's posted in the past few hours says anything, and he's mostly just whining about how he's not really playing his scum meta.

I get the scumreads on Dane but I feel like he's much more a roll of the die than Tumble who is like 95% likely to flip mafia here imo. Like I get why some of his posts are triggering alarms but I feel like he is putting in effort.

Scott is still a tough one for me this game. Palmar flip-flopping from geript to Tumble and then back to Geript is worth raising an eyebrow or two at, but is not something I care to dig into right now.
On August 31 2016 05:41 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2016 05:40 Tumblewood wrote:
honestly I really want to lynch Koshi right now
or maybe hf
circa 20 minutes from now it should strike everyone as really weird that my wagon formed so easily and didn't budge even when things changed


Nothing has changed, expect more and more people realizing you rolled mafia this game.
On August 31 2016 05:43 Tictock wrote:
Deadline is so close... I think I'm going back to Legion.

I want Tumble to be the lynch today, so plz no last min shenannies. Dane is a worse lynch than Tumble.

But he switches to Rels anyway.
On August 31 2016 06:41 Tictock wrote:
I hate myself for caving to pressure.

Sorry Rels.
And he blames it on caving into pressure. Given how much he talked about wanting to lynch Tumblewood and not shenanigan, even after Rels posted all of his most scummy stuff at EoD, this is the most plausible explanation if Tictock is indeed town. But it still doesn't seem very solid at all.

Other than this End of Day stuff I kind of like Tictock's play? So I'm not sure what to make of this yet.



I know that unflipped associations are really stupid, but if scott31337 is mafia, Tictock's play looks far more suspicious. Here's the vote count before Tictock's vote switch:
On August 31 2016 05:58 beentheredonethat wrote:
Day 1: Vote Count #7



Votes:
  • Rels (4) - Palmar, Vivax, scott31337, disformation, Koshi, Tictock, Holyflare, disformation, Koshi, Tumblewood
  • Trfel (0) - disformation
  • disformation (0) - Holyflare, Koshi, geript
  • Tumblewood (2) - Koshi, Koshi, Holyflare, scott31337, Tictock, Palmar, disformation, disformation, Trfel
  • Koshi (0) - DanelerH
  • geript (1) - Palmar, disformation, DanelerH, Palmar, Tumblewood
  • scott31337 (4) - Vivax, Rels, Trfel, DanelerH, Trfel, Tumblewood
  • TicTock (0) - Tumblewood
  • Vivax (1) - disformation, Race Bannon
  • DanelerH (1) - geript

Not voting: -
Currently, scott31337 is set to be lynched.
Tictock's vote was really important in sealing the lynch as Rels, instead of scott31337. He could maybe have predicted Palmar switching votes to Rels, but relying on other people to switch would be a huge risk. So if scott31337 flips mafia, Tictock looks a lot worse. Even if scott31337 flips town, his End of Day makes me a bit suspicious about him.



1:You realise what you've quoted here is trfel putting in unnecessary words to what I already said? You said you didn't want to switch, you looked like you didn't want to switch and then you switched.

Trfel explains what I did in 3 quotes but with 4 long paragraphs instead. You then go on to further say that me not doing anything with the vca is bad but also say that me accusing you because of the vca is bad. Congratulations.

Are you going to cherry pick more of my posts or actually admit that I'm town now? I'm only on a phone at work for 90% of my game playing time so quoting a lot is already an unnecessary hassle but you're welcome to ask me questions instead of shit flinging and I will personally take my time elaborating everything that I thought at the time of each post/moment in the game.

2: If you're unclear about scott it's because he looked happy day 1 but then when I returned to the thread that's all I had in my mind, vivax's case wasn't so convincing over my happiness read. End of day 1 I only had an hour or less to read over and convince myself about tumble being really mafia or if I wanted to switch. Rels allowed me to and I love a good shenanigan for information and tumble was yelling and looked vaguely townie whereas rels just posted responses and no original thought really. Scott did absolutely nothing and yet actually WAS around at the deadline and then vanished which always emotionally makes me think that person is mafia. From a purely vca standpoint he looked mafka and trfel's case i read that and somewhat agreed with it at some point around then iirc.

His play so far probably makes him mafia and there's no spreadsheet still so almost definitely. Unless you're trying to dispute this point in which case I will yell at you for tmi and kill you today.

Any more inconsistencies you want explained good sir? I like nipping things in the bud so you can't perpetually fling shit at me later.



1: No, you threw around a couple of throwaway opinions like "he said things that bugged me" while Trfel showed some evidence and tried to put thought into mindset and comes to the obv conclusion that my vote switch only makes sense if I'm mafia with scott.

2: So why haven't you pushed Scott at all today?




Actually no, not only did I find your inconsistencies the worst and analyse them to be mafia but I also made the connections between you ans scott before trfel did too:

On August 31 2016 06:23 Holyflare wrote:
I just can't wrap my head around why Scott would be here but not vote to save himself unless he's with the last two but that's super duper associative and bad buttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


So really trfl elongated my couple of lines which was unnecessary.

Also with regards to scott, it's impossible to push someone that is NEVER here, and when he was actually here i displayed his most damning inconsistency to the thread.

Here's where we're at:

I called out Scott's bs spreadsheet, yet he hasn't posted it. I'd know there's no spreadsheet if we're mafia together, he'd post a spreadsheet as town because why would he be lying so really I've actually proven scott is mafia unnecessarily if we're team mates. Did you forget this point when you were trying to slander mt scott pushing?

Quite simply I'm pushing palmar because I've written a lot about him and it's alll feels mixed with bs play. I'm very likely to die tonight since I have actually posted analysis and i don't trust people to not kill him, he'll just start playing after I'm dead conveniently and win.

Also mafia needs mislynches, townies are happy to have town reads, mafia keeps options open and throws shit around, town is decisive. Tumblewood is keeping all options open in this case. Mafia like pushing my filters because my filters are always low content spam posts that enable people to delve deeper, that's my style. I flesh it out with cases eventually which I have been doing. There's nothing to hide.

Koshi's quotes also make me want to vote tumble.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 02 2016 15:28 GMT
#1363
We never got much follow-through from Scott's spreadsheet stuff earlier, and giving up in this position is totally the opposite of the attitude Scott had D1 + Show Spoiler +. However it does fit a scum!scott agenda to lay low in a good position and try to bring down town's mood.


Personally I'd really like to lynch HF because I know by posting this I am in for a storm.

Scott is probably the safer bet though.

##Vote: Holyflare


Ahahahahahahahahahahaah

Please someone tell him. This guy is 100% just picking posts and writing a narrative and not reading the thread.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 02 2016 15:31 GMT
#1364
Also somehow I'm mafia with tumble and bussed him hard :D :D :D
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