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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 02 2016 08:09 GMT
#1316
Depends on who dies tonight I might even not lynch Vivax yet tomorrow. But the night after that, if we are both alive my vote is locked on him ALWAYS and ever.

But mostly I will be dead. HF will be dead. And vivax will be alive pushing scott.

Then it is up to you geript. Or if you are mafia with Palmar/Vivax it is to the afk army to listen to the good dead townies.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 02 2016 08:46 GMT
#1318
Tfrel looking worse and worse each post he makes. Still can't believe he didn't bother figuring out my post more. And if he thought that was my scumlist why he didn't go apeshit over the fact scott was in it.

So bad.

But wagon of justice is Palmar.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 02 2016 08:57 GMT
#1319
I also don't understand why Scott is so angry.. Like... Just come back and play.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 02 2016 08:58 GMT
#1320
TT afk. Made 1 post last 24h. Or maybe 2. Cba to open his filter again.

Nha. Lynch Palmar. If he flips town surrender.

People not playing the full game is becoming a problem. I am enjoying slower games but everybody should make the same amount of posts.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 02 2016 11:08 GMT
#1324
wikipedia says there are 1826 billionaires in the world. And I just have shaken ones hand and had dinner with him.

Granted. I am just a simple accountant in a "small" firm in his worldwide imperium but hey, kinda fun.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 02 2016 12:17 GMT
#1325
So. Fun game.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 02 2016 14:22 GMT
#1340
On September 02 2016 23:12 Tumblewood wrote:
it scares me how easily the wagon on Palmar built up and how stubborn it is. you know what attitude really benefits scum if he flips town? "let's lynch Palmar and if he's town we give up". not to mention that tt and I were afk for >36 hours and only got one vote each, when normally that would make us the leading wagons.

What is this purpose behind this post? How many times have you know soft defended Palmar? 5?

##unvote
##vote Tumblewood


Fine. You win.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 02 2016 14:26 GMT
#1341
On September 01 2016 00:31 Tumblewood wrote:
Palmar is acting unusually for him, but that's not necessarily mafia. not quite sure how to feel about it; I'm used to wagon of justice Palmar and all I get this game is normal player Palmar. and the no brakes train to loseville sounds like it fits pretty well with my playstyle.

On September 02 2016 14:37 Tumblewood wrote:
hf can u shut up about how palmar sheeped koshi but blah blah blah you made it first or whatever? it is not leading anywhere. maybe it's correct but I'd like to think it's a broken clock except it still yells TICK TICK TICK and at the top of every hour a cuckoo pops out and yells PALMAR'S SCUM! and it's still only right twice a day

On September 02 2016 14:40 Tumblewood wrote:
I can definitely see the thought process behind me being afk for large chunks of time -> mafia, but not so much for palmar because he is afk frequently and as both alignments. he's also not that afk compared to tt.

On September 02 2016 23:05 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2016 17:16 Holyflare wrote:
not that bad lynches
scott (probably the worst of these 4)
geript
tt
palmar

I think 2 or 3 scum are in that second pool. scott and dane can sorta be their own category in the middle if I felt like it, and maybe hf can join them



Why is there a qualification next to my name when the two people I'm pushing the most are the people you think are mafia?

I also really, really hate that you're calling out my read on palmar for being repeated when nobody but dane acknowledged it AND he's your scum read. It's so misplaced and just doesn't fit with the rest of the post or your reads.

because I don't care about it even a tenth as much as you do. and I disagree that Palmar would never do that as town

On September 02 2016 23:12 Tumblewood wrote:
it scares me how easily the wagon on Palmar built up and how stubborn it is. you know what attitude really benefits scum if he flips town? "let's lynch Palmar and if he's town we give up". not to mention that tt and I were afk for >36 hours and only got one vote each, when normally that would make us the leading wagons.



It actually is 5. All on the last page of your filter. Which is probably last 36 hours?


But your scumlist:
On September 02 2016 14:55 Tumblewood wrote:
I swear I could make a palmar post generator. just input [random quote] "worst post in the game" [other quote] "100% mafia. there's clearly a thought process but I just don't see it most of the time.
ANYWAY. my best guess at a read is that palmar is scum because a) wrong on d1 though shenannies kinda don't count and b) usually as town he falls somewhere in the middle of the scale on arrogance or the very extreme high end, and right now he is on the low side. maybe worth letting him live in case mafia decides to kill him n2 for being palmar. legit thought
ok. where I'm at right now is:
can be excluded from the scum pool
trfel
hf, I think
koshi as soon as he says he'll stop posting and then keeps posting
vivax
dane, for now

not that bad lynches
scott (probably the worst of these 4)
geript
tt
palmar

I think 2 or 3 scum are in that second pool. scott and dane can sorta be their own category in the middle if I felt like it, and maybe hf can join them

Still got Palmar in there as lock mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 02 2016 14:38 GMT
#1344
On September 02 2016 23:36 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2016 23:22 Koshi wrote:
On September 02 2016 23:12 Tumblewood wrote:
it scares me how easily the wagon on Palmar built up and how stubborn it is. you know what attitude really benefits scum if he flips town? "let's lynch Palmar and if he's town we give up". not to mention that tt and I were afk for >36 hours and only got one vote each, when normally that would make us the leading wagons.

What is this purpose behind this post? How many times have you know soft defended Palmar? 5?

##unvote
##vote Tumblewood


Fine. You win.

idc if I've been soft defending Palmar. he might not even be mafia, if you can comprehend such a world
and that reminds me, you really need to drop your scumread on vivax because it ignores his biggest tell of not giving up after one day, and his second biggest tell of making crazy cases

Then why is he in your scumlist under LOCK mafia. Because you have 4 names in which you are confident are 2-3 mafia and 2 names were dane + geript which you could put into null.

So scott and Palmar are lock mafia then right? So why are you solely talking about how Palmar is not really mafia and ignore everyhting else.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 02 2016 14:39 GMT
#1345
Tumble go vote.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 02 2016 14:40 GMT
#1347
On September 02 2016 23:39 Tumblewood wrote:
and no, just because he is in my pool titled "lock scum"-- oh wait, it's actually titled "not bad lynches"-- does not mean I think Palmar is 100% mafia

4 "not bad lynches" that have possible 3 mafia in them.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 02 2016 14:43 GMT
#1348
On September 02 2016 23:39 Koshi wrote:
Tumble go vote.

I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 02 2016 15:06 GMT
#1360
Got to travel home. Already 6 mins late!
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 02 2016 15:43 GMT
#1369
On September 02 2016 23:56 Tictock wrote:
Can you explain what is looking worse in Trfel's posts?

1) During EoN he attacks my scott read while ignoring my much more indept Vivax case. I don't understand why he would discredit me by "discussing" my gutread on scott over my well worked out case on Vivax.

That was the first red flag.


2) During D2 he hasn't done much but he did this:
On September 01 2016 17:06 Trfel wrote:
Well, I have to wake up in three hours, so that's it for me. I tried to do some lazy POE stuff but it didn't end up with anything eye-opening.

In short, I really like DanelerH because in addition to his play feeling honest and open (example that he said he didn't think we could play at night), it doesn't feel like he's playing for survival or for townreads, but rather actually thinking about the game. One example of this is his early scumread on Koshi, another is not caving in to Holyflare's pressure and looking at disformation.

I'm actually not as sure on scott31337 being mafia, his latest series of posts felt more towny due to the emotions. And geript's play has started to feel more and more like I'd expect from him as town; not so much the immediately solving the game part, ut the thought process.

On the other hand, Tumblewood and Tictock feel worse and worse to me.
Tumblewood still hasn't done anything really other than that Tictock read, and he hasn't felt very involved at all, or motivated to play the game other than that one burst of activity to survive the lynch. For Tictock, his End of Day seemed really bad, and there was some other stuff which I'm forgetting because I'm too tired, but I dunno. I guess I kind of forgot why I thought he was mafia, I'll have to look at him again later.

Still haven't looked at Palmar at all.... And a bit paranoid of Vivax and maybe maaaaaybe Koshi.

Voting for Tumblewood.

Good night.

The second time he repeats that TW and TT look very bad and could be mafia. He has no opinion on Palmar.


And then his last post:
On September 02 2016 12:58 Trfel wrote:
Palmar feels especially uncaring today. Even worse than before.

If Palmar is town and being mislynched by a Holyflare that he thinks is mafia, I'd expect him to do something about it.

##unvote
##vote Palmar


Koshi, why did you change your read on Vivax to town?

Suddenly he +1s on the Palmar wagon.



3) The reason why I said he looked worse and worse is that he doesn't even read posts anymore. Why would he conclude Vivax was in my townlist? He just saw I put down some names and "assumed" those were all mafia? But why didn't he complain about scott being in there then.... Like... Tfrel started strong but his last posts are 100% garbage.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 02 2016 15:46 GMT
#1373
On September 03 2016 00:45 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2016 00:43 Holyflare wrote:
Also because i felt bad for lynching him so upped my effort and the tt inconsistencies drove me on like a puzzle wanting to be solved.

When have I ever been lazy after a lynch?

I don't remember that precise meta, but it's not a meta thing.

It's just a normal "it makes sense for townies to care during later part of the day and care less during the night" kind of thing. I actually do remember arguing with you for an entire n1 before so who knows.

I disagree. Mafia tends to fuck off during the night as well. Night is Night.

Massive effort during the night is a lot of the times town driven.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 02 2016 15:51 GMT
#1376
On September 03 2016 00:49 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2016 00:46 Koshi wrote:
On September 03 2016 00:45 Palmar wrote:
On September 03 2016 00:43 Holyflare wrote:
Also because i felt bad for lynching him so upped my effort and the tt inconsistencies drove me on like a puzzle wanting to be solved.

When have I ever been lazy after a lynch?

I don't remember that precise meta, but it's not a meta thing.

It's just a normal "it makes sense for townies to care during later part of the day and care less during the night" kind of thing. I actually do remember arguing with you for an entire n1 before so who knows.

I disagree. Mafia tends to fuck off during the night as well. Night is Night.

Massive effort during the night is a lot of the times town driven.

Yes, sure.

What I'm saying is that normally town effort is like:

early day: 70% - late day: 100% - night 90%

while mafia is more like

early day: 60% - late day: 800% - night 30%

Of course super simplified, but you get the point and I pose that HF had something of an anomaly in both ways

early day: 50% - late day: 60% - night 100%

Which is just weird. I know it isn't even normal mafia. It just feels wrong. Why did he go ham on me after a flip? Why was his first argument for calling me mafia a vote in which I joined a wagon created by him, and even explained why I did so?

Cuz you pissed him off calling him mafia while you called me town for something he also did.

And you can't blame him for Rels because TW went for the emotion play and Rels made people angry so we swapped. I blame Rels for Rels.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 02 2016 15:54 GMT
#1380
On September 03 2016 00:53 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2016 00:51 Koshi wrote:
On September 03 2016 00:49 Palmar wrote:
On September 03 2016 00:46 Koshi wrote:
On September 03 2016 00:45 Palmar wrote:
On September 03 2016 00:43 Holyflare wrote:
Also because i felt bad for lynching him so upped my effort and the tt inconsistencies drove me on like a puzzle wanting to be solved.

When have I ever been lazy after a lynch?

I don't remember that precise meta, but it's not a meta thing.

It's just a normal "it makes sense for townies to care during later part of the day and care less during the night" kind of thing. I actually do remember arguing with you for an entire n1 before so who knows.

I disagree. Mafia tends to fuck off during the night as well. Night is Night.

Massive effort during the night is a lot of the times town driven.

Yes, sure.

What I'm saying is that normally town effort is like:

early day: 70% - late day: 100% - night 90%

while mafia is more like

early day: 60% - late day: 800% - night 30%

Of course super simplified, but you get the point and I pose that HF had something of an anomaly in both ways

early day: 50% - late day: 60% - night 100%

Which is just weird. I know it isn't even normal mafia. It just feels wrong. Why did he go ham on me after a flip? Why was his first argument for calling me mafia a vote in which I joined a wagon created by him, and even explained why I did so?

Cuz you pissed him off calling him mafia while you called me town for something he also did.

And you can't blame him for Rels because TW went for the emotion play and Rels made people angry so we swapped. I blame Rels for Rels.


I'm not blaming him, per se, I just want to hear him explain why. I voted Rels.

It's not like I started thinking he wasn't doing things AFTER the lynch. He could have tried to lynch me instead right?

I don't understand what you are going for but sure?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 02 2016 15:55 GMT
#1381
I also think disformation was really pro lynching Rels during EoD. So we just did it.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 02 2016 16:12 GMT
#1387
TT his posting has been way better than TW/Tfrel.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 02 2016 16:17 GMT
#1389
On September 03 2016 01:15 Holyflare wrote:
Um what did you just read what he posted?

Yeah. Still I like him more than the other 2.
I had a good night of sleep.
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