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On August 30 2016 02:01 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2016 01:47 geript wrote:
Pretty simple. I ignored the initial pm post. That's the type of shit that flat out ruins games one way or another. At the time he had a short filter with an exceptionally unusual scum pair (Koshi + someone iirc). I remember missing it initially but when TT and TW were talking, TT had this awful townread reasoning and TW made a short post on how he and Koshi couldn't be scum together. And it got me thinking about how Race could ever pair those two. It's such an odd pairing that it stuck in my mind. For the thread: That post (by TW) was made after RB posted his read, so it cannot (given a normal timeline) have influenced geript's concern about RB's pair. And that's if you even believe that throwing two people as possible mafia must mean you've also associated them enough to make sure they can be scum together. Hell geript even forgets who was the in the pair, and then remembers next line. We're going to have ourselves a dead geript for dinner.
Yes, it could have influenced him if he didn't think much about the rb post when he saw it but then revisited the post when he saw TW his reply on it.
Doesn't make him scum at all.
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On August 30 2016 02:24 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 17:55 disformation wrote:I actually took a look at the meta read NM used to figure out scum!palmar in star wars the mafia awaken and then compared palmars filter from that game to the one he has here. using that as a basis I too think Palmar is playing to his town meta this game. I find the meta read you posted interesting, and it's partially correct  That said, I'm not as confident on Palmar as I generally am, which annoys me a little bit. Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 18:54 Koshi wrote:On August 29 2016 18:51 disformation wrote:
TBH I am surprisingly cool with "my" meta thing on palmar.
And ofc I am willing to reevaluate as the game goes on. Need my waffelz!
Nah seriously I'll call Palmar town.
Does anyone have an opinion on HF? Cause I kinda dont and I am scared by that. I really liked that extra dimension read he had on TW. Showed he is thinking about the game and not pretending to think about the game. atm one of the most townie people. Koshi, I find it very funny that you keep insisting that this game is within the range of Palmar's mafia play but say that Holyflare is super towny after a handful of posts. Do you not have a high opinion of Holyflare's scum play, or is there an extra nuance to this read?
HF is probably the best mafia player at this site, or at least has won the most games on his own. But in this game I think HF is town because I agree with all posts he makes 100% while I don't have the same feeling when I read Palmar his post. Do I think Rels is mafia for the reasons Palmar stated? Nope. Do I think geript is mafia for the reasons Palmar stated? Nope.
Do I agree with HF that TW is a flailing fish and should be lynched? Yes.
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On August 30 2016 02:54 Holyflare wrote:I'm also more tempted to lynch Tumble because I don't remember him ever playing this badly as town (ignore last game since that was a wtf is going on game), it looks more like he's struggling to fit in at all and can't think of stuff to post: Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 06:21 Tumblewood wrote:
gonna jump on the "talk about trfel" ship
doesn't make a whole lot of sense that trfel would jokingly claim scum and then shift right into serious mode. well, maybe a little. I still don't like it.
vivax is also probably town for getting pissed at that. ^ first instance of a read that says absolutely nothing and then gives a free town read to vivax based on something that didn't even happen, feels forced to give a read at that moment followed by posts that just involve talking to people aka nothingness conversation: + Show Spoiler +On August 29 2016 10:48 Tumblewood wrote:
yo daneler, you can just call everyone here "he". the effort is in good will, but it's really not necessary here. On August 29 2016 10:52 Tumblewood wrote:
that reminds me, daneler, you're not going to get very far reading people for whether their posts are "contributive". this is the most common newbie mistake I see; it seems natural that town would want to contribute and scum wouldn't want to help town, but more often than not that reasoning will lead you astray. try evaluating posters' mindsets or look for inconsistencies. ^ this guy is against gender integration On August 29 2016 10:59 Tumblewood wrote:
wow this is a bad game even by my low standards. can someone carry me On August 29 2016 11:42 Tumblewood wrote:oh like I've been unusually lazy and bad god there's so many i don't even want to quote them all Anyway, following his crappy posts of nothingness that don't speak about anything to do with the game he has random moments of throwing around one liner posts of a read that have no explanation or follow up whatsoever: Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 11:45 Tumblewood wrote:On August 29 2016 11:13 Tictock wrote:On August 29 2016 11:01 scott31337 wrote:On August 29 2016 10:59 Tumblewood wrote:
wow this is a bad game even by my low standards. can someone carry me Umm, I think the game has been going decently well. Every body has posted at least once, and I started my spreadsheet and have notes for everybody. Could you tell me more? I hadn't noticed that everyone had posted. Points to you for paying attention. why is that a townlean ... OH SHIT tinfoil here, Scott is scum and intentionally dropping that he he's using a spreadsheet for town cred or not, maybe Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 14:38 Tumblewood wrote:
new scott > afk scott
and is also probably town his only read of substance is his RB read which is very surface level anyway and not exactly a great read (also ignores what everyone was talking about with regards to RB and his pm crap) and this Scott read which is solely based on activity.... his entire filter is surface level blending dude is mafia
Point and case. TW is not solving the game and is just doing random stuff. Not a single interesting post.
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On August 30 2016 03:11 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2016 03:10 Trfel wrote:
Holyflare, what do you think about Tumblewood's posts on Tictock? Especially since you said that you're also suspicious of Tictock. actually next target trfel. or maybe I can save myself some time by asking whether trfel constantly asks "X, what do you think of Y?" as town/scum
HF posts a giant case on him and 4 posts later he decides to not comment on HF or the case on him? Nha. I don't believe this is town TW with nothing to lose.
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On August 30 2016 05:27 disformation wrote:
@Koshi what do you think of TW's meta thing on TT?
I think it looks like a decent post but why does he post that and then fucks off?
Like I said.
How to find mafia 101:
- Look for the guy who made super disconnected posts from the flow of the thread and is just pretending to be scumhunting.
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On August 30 2016 05:27 disformation wrote:
@Koshi what do you think of TW's meta thing on TT?
mafia!TW found something he could put out there that didn't look super terrible and went for it.
Where you convinced by the post? Do you scumread TT now?
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On August 30 2016 05:31 Holyflare wrote:
Lol koshi i don't actually hate tw after he posted that :D
Not totally anyway.
1 good post and he is town?
That's not how it works.
Mafia are the ones who make posts in an attempt to look town. The better the mafia player the more townie post he can make.
Town are the ones who make posts in an attempt to find mafia and don't care if they look town but look town in the process.
TW in this game is red and was able to make 1 good post.
TW in any other game is green and obvious green. I will go look for a game.
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Ok so I don't know if I have played with TW recently. I thought we played a lot of games together but apparantly not.
This one shows what I mean though even if it is +3months old:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/507600-cap-tortoise-mafia?user=Tumblewood
See how he is not a scared chicken that hides behind terrible posts? To the point, low filter, but all game solving.
Nothing of that this game.
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On August 30 2016 05:37 Holyflare wrote:
Enough talking about geript and tw, let's focus on you know, the rest of the game?
Dane comes in and can only focuses on one person to vote (geript) but it's basically a sheep, returns and seems annoyed that they got called out and maintain that they are still voting geript when voti
I can't read people like him. Only when they have a somewhat acceptable activity level I can get a good read. And most of the times only when they are town.
I read his posts and shrug.
Final read.
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Palmar, Vivax, TW
My best guesses for mafia.
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When I said you were the best mafia player I also meant were the best mafia player.
Proof: My last mafia game.
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On August 30 2016 05:49 DanelerH wrote:
I keep rereading the post where you say Geript clears up the inconsistancy, but I'm failing to see how it does so. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it just says it was because of a strange pairing Race made. If it was so important that it makes xym seem like a Mafia, wouldn't it have been far better to put that in the read? All xe mentioned there was that it was a weird pair to read.
As for why I haven't looked into Disformation yet, I was following the advice about looking more for inconistancies, rather than uncontributive posts. It appears that in doing so, however, I have only ended up making myself look more suspicious.
Just play your own game man. How have you found mafia in the past? Use that system and try to perfect it. Don't give a shit about others think and force your reads upon them and not the other way around.
Otherwise you are going to look disconnected and fake.
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On August 30 2016 05:43 Koshi wrote:
Palmar, Vivax, TW
My best guesses for mafia.
I actually like these names a lot.
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On August 30 2016 05:59 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2016 05:58 Koshi wrote:On August 30 2016 05:43 Koshi wrote:
Palmar, Vivax, TW
My best guesses for mafia. I actually like these names a lot. but what do we do about Rels? He is still on one post and that kinda pisses me off cause I know Rels can play a good game.
nobody cares about Rels.
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On August 30 2016 06:03 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2016 05:43 Koshi wrote:
Palmar, Vivax, TW
My best guesses for mafia. jesus koshi
God Koshi.
You should know.
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On August 30 2016 06:05 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2016 06:04 Koshi wrote:On August 30 2016 06:03 Palmar wrote:On August 30 2016 05:43 Koshi wrote:
Palmar, Vivax, TW
My best guesses for mafia. jesus koshi God Koshi. You should know. Do you sincerely believe I mafia? If so, why?
I have no reason to believe you are town and I disagree heavily with your push on geript.
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On August 30 2016 06:07 Palmar wrote:
actually fuck it, I don't really care why.
The fact you pointed our geript's inconsistency regarding his RB read means you're maybe town, or at least, I'm never going to lynch you today, so I'm just going to a happier place where I pretend you don't exist. That way I get to play the game without having to deal with you today!
This may be the smartest thing I've done in a while.
Palmar/Vivax/TW
pretty good names.
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On August 30 2016 06:34 Tumblewood wrote:
wowww did rb really vote koshi in the voting thread? if that doesn't change soon I will be very suspicious of rb. although for now I think this game is different from rb's other two scum games (newbie XX and idk some other game) that looked a lot like luna's town meta. maybe the metamorphosis to spambeast has changed rb's meta a lot though.
back to the koshi vote. if it's semi-serious it's bad
Why is it bad?
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Fucking damnit I don't think scott is mafia but he could easily be mafia.
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Reading his filter and for me it is a pile of null with possible town moments. There is no way somebody like Vivax actually believes so hard that he is mafia based on meta of ANOTHER player.
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