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On September 03 2016 23:22 Palmar wrote:
Why am I mafia Daneler?
I made a post on it earlier: + Show Spoiler +On September 01 2016 07:48 DanelerH wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2016 05:01 Koshi wrote:
Palmar 100% mafia. Kill with fire. If you don't understand Palmar is mafia there is no hope for you. Has been sitting on random wagons taking 0 credit for his reads. Town!Palmar his favorite thing is to taunt town that he is right when he is sitting on a different wagon. Or play better and actually lead town. Nothing of that here, his like between the two. I'll let HF explain it better if I die. If anyone can back up the bold portion, please do so. I don't know how accurate this is. Regardless, the italicized portion made me check Palmar's filter again and I found out that Koshi is correct about this. Palmar went from: Rels: + Show Spoiler +On August 29 2016 06:33 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 06:30 disformation wrote:On August 29 2016 06:29 Palmar wrote:
This is not a joke btw. Rels is probably mafia. please enlighten me. for instantly disappearing after posting a 2 character post? Is that a meta thing for him? Ah fantastic. No, it's absolutely not a meta thing. You see, one of the most underrated difficult things to do in mafia is to "enter" the thread. Rels' entrance was, unlike just about everyone else on the frontpage, completely unattached to the game or to anything else going on in it. If he was in the thread at the time, he definitely had the time to read the like... 5? posts that had been posted, or at least stuck around to say one or two more things. But no, he came into the thread, because there is an inherent pressure on people to actually participate in threads, especially mafia feel like "I must post". Yet he clearly had no real will or intention to stay in the thread, as his silence since that one greeting proves. He is, of the people that posted early, by far the most likely to be mafia. - Something of note: + Show Spoiler +Palmar didn't give xyr theory on Rels until asked for it. Prior to this, xe only said "Rels is Mafia." On August 29 2016 06:31 Palmar wrote:
ok is no one going to ask me how I came up with my theory? what is this? Geript: + Show Spoiler +On August 29 2016 19:00 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 18:45 Palmar wrote:
geript's two long posts are awful. He quotes a bunch of my posts and gives random commentary, then proceeds to make his conclusion some joke about marv.
Also, Rels still afk? wow such caught. Like to elaborate further on the geript thing. It's of special notice that when he is posting, Rels is clearly running away with the vote, and as such, geript should be paying attention to that part of the game, yet all he says about my case is "i am not impressed" without giving any further reasoning about it. In his conclusion he states "Rels is useless as usual" or something like that, which is like the weakest possible stance you can take on the person currently up for lynch. Like I would've been fine if geript's criticism was actually explained, or thought out at all. His long posts really stick out as "I'm gonna quote a bunch of shit and add random commentary so it looks like I'm doing things". Essentially, despite the long form of his posts, what he has done is basically written a glorified list post that looks something like this: Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 15:05 geript wrote:
Town
HF
Koshi
Vivax
Leaning Town
Trfel
Null
Palmar
Scott
Rels
Scum
Tumble
RB
disfo
Not that lists aren't fine, they're often a good way to gauge where someone stands on a game, but meeeehhh~~~ Also, he completely disregarded my point on RB which I still think is an excellent point. So yeah. geript's entrance is shit. Tumblewood: + Show Spoiler +On August 30 2016 19:54 Palmar wrote:
Voting Tumblewood
Partly because I admire the fact Koshi wrote a case that looks good and I want to support a good effort.
Mostly though because he put me in "null/I don't care" category.
- Something of note: + Show Spoiler +Palmar wasn't the only one suspicious of Tumblewood. Holyflare was suspicous of Tumblewood a long time before this. Despite each of them making a case on the same person, Palmar made the following post: On August 31 2016 01:47 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2016 23:10 Vivax wrote:
HF is very sheepable this game. Moreso than Palmar, even though he will hate me for saying this.
I never get who the hell Dan talks about when he says xym/xe, there is no player going by that name can you for the love of god use the actual names or do you have a chinese autocorrect turned on? HF has done literally nothing worth noticing. Geript (again): + Show Spoiler +On August 31 2016 05:44 Palmar wrote:
I am only going to be on phone tonight but for what it's worth I didn't think tw sounded like mafia when we talked today. It's not a strong read nor am I going to hard defend him (don't wanna look like an idiot if he flips mafia) but yeah
I think geript is a better lunch. There is a vey concise and simple point against him Rels (again): + Show Spoiler +On August 31 2016 05:59 Palmar wrote:
I awitched rather kill Rels than scott - Something of note: + Show Spoiler +This was only 15 minutes later and allegedly wasn't because Blue claim from Rels. On August 31 2016 07:19 Palmar wrote:
yeah I don't have to argue this right now so I'm not going to.
I did not switch after he claimed blue, or if I did it was only because phone posting is slower. I switched, as stated, because of the two options left on the table I wanted to kill Rels over scott.
If Palmar is Mafia, I think it's safe to say that Geript and Tumblewood probably aren't.
While I still haven't heard anything new about the bold portion, the italicized portion is still correct. In the part where I'm looking into the italicized portion, I also noted several things, which are also still correct and I believe they hold water. Tumblewood and Geript being Town also falls in line with my hypothesis at the end.
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I'm working on a case right now. I think I can finish by the deadline. (I may have been working on it for the past hour to make sure it says what I want it to.)
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My suspicion of all three of them has increased. It's centered around the Day 1 lynch. Here is a list of the quotes from the semi-final vote count to the final vote count: + Show Spoiler +On August 31 2016 05:58 beentheredonethat wrote:Day 1: Vote Count #7]
Votes: - Rels (4) -
Palmar, Vivax, scott31337, disformation, Koshi, Tictock, Holyflare, disformation, Koshi, Tumblewood
- Trfel (0) -
disformation
- disformation (0) -
Holyflare, Koshi, geript
- Tumblewood (2) -
Koshi, Koshi, Holyflare, scott31337, Tictock, Palmar, disformation, disformation, Trfel
- Koshi (0) -
DanelerH
- geript (1) -
Palmar, disformation, DanelerH, Palmar, Tumblewood
- scott31337 (4) - Vivax, Rels,
Trfel, DanelerH, Trfel, Tumblewood
- TicTock (0) -
Tumblewood
- Vivax (1) -
disformation, Race Bannon
- DanelerH (1) - geript
Not voting: -
Currently, scott31337 is set to be lynched.
Remember, voting is mandatory. Please vote in the voting thread. If the vote count is not accurate or contains errors, please PM a host.
Day 1 will end in (deadline being Tuesday, Aug 30 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)). On August 31 2016 05:58 Tictock wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Rels On August 31 2016 05:58 Palmar wrote:
##unvote
##vote Rels On August 31 2016 05:59 Rels wrote:
##Vote scott On August 31 2016 06:03 beentheredonethat wrote:Day 1: Final Vote Count
Votes: - Rels (6) -
Palmar, Vivax, scott31337, disformation, Koshi, Tictock, Holyflare, disformation, Koshi, Tumblewood, Tictock, Palmar
- Trfel (0) -
disformation
- disformation (0) -
Holyflare, Koshi, geript
- Tumblewood (1) -
Koshi, Koshi, Holyflare, scott31337, Tictock, Palmar, disformation, disformation, Trfel
- Koshi (0) -
DanelerH
- geript (0) -
Palmar, disformation, DanelerH, Palmar, Tumblewood
- scott31337 (4) - Vivax, Rels,
Trfel, DanelerH, Trfel, Tumblewood
- TicTock (0) -
Tumblewood
- Vivax (1) -
disformation, Race Bannon
- DanelerH (1) - geript
Not voting: -
Rels is the lynch. Flip post is imminent.
In the semi-final count, Scott was about to be lynched. The ones who turned the vote around to Rels were Palmar and Tictock. Each of them gave an explanation for their vote switches.
Palmar: + Show Spoiler +On August 31 2016 05:59 Palmar wrote:
I awitched rather kill Rels than scott On August 31 2016 06:00 Palmar wrote:
This has like 1% chance of working but we're sticking with it because he claimed On August 31 2016 07:19 Palmar wrote:
yeah I don't have to argue this right now so I'm not going to.
I did not switch after he claimed blue, or if I did it was only because phone posting is slower. I switched, as stated, because of the two options left on the table I wanted to kill Rels over scott.
Tictock: + Show Spoiler +On August 31 2016 05:43 Tictock wrote:
Deadline is so close... I think I'm going back to Legion.
I want Tumble to be the lynch today, so plz no last min shenannies. Dane is a worse lynch than Tumble. On August 31 2016 05:54 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2016 05:51 Rels wrote:
I've read Scott geript and tw filter and I want a geript lynch
Tumble had some townie reactions not long ago
Scott last read list is like exactly mine with my name instead of his name. He could be town for that
Geript has done nothing after his two tryhard posts that had inconsistency in it. I think he is the more likely to flip scum
FTR I also really dislike the way tt is pushing tumble lynch, he is missing some kind of doubts townie usually have Good, now I feel like my vote on you at the start of the game was justified. On August 31 2016 05:57 Tictock wrote:
Arg I actually still don't like the shennanie... On August 31 2016 05:59 Tictock wrote:Fuck it On August 31 2016 06:41 Tictock wrote:
I hate myself for caving to pressure.
Sorry Rels.
The things that coincide with these posts is that they needed to prevent Scott's lynch. Tictock, after over emphasising shennanigans, used the Blue claim as cover for the vote, then claimed giving into pressure. In Palmar's case, xyr last post states that xe doens't have to argue the vote switch, but then does so anyways. Not only is the timing suspicious, but the explanations are, too (as well as being completely unnecessary).
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Holyflare, who do you think we should lynch? I'm fine with any of the three I listed as Mafia, but my preference is either Scott or Palmar.
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On September 04 2016 19:33 scott31337 wrote:DanelerH These are your current reads that you have posted. You believe Palmar is mafia, is that correct? Show nested quote +On September 03 2016 22:41 DanelerH wrote:
After looking through Trfel's filter, I don't see anything that points to xem being Mafia. As such, I'm going to place xem under Town. Here is my current list:
Town:
Holyflare
Vivax
Geript
Koshi
Trfel
Mafia:
Tictock
Scott
Palmar
Out of the ones listed under Mafia, I think we should lynch either Scott or Palmar. And this from Palmar. Show nested quote +On September 03 2016 00:03 Palmar wrote:
I am not mafia, no idea why people still think that's really an option.
I don't have the energy to argue against the train of stupidity that's coming after me. so instead I'll just share what I think is relevant in this game and you guys can then either listen to me now, or you can listen to me later.
Koshi: Almost definitely town. He is, in his own bad way, trying to get the game solved. Also, it's literally his town meta to think I'm mafia and be wrong about it. He's also not just tunneling one thing (for example he's not just tunneling me, he's actually doing other stuff). I liked his case on TW at the time on day 1, although I don't really think TW is mafia but I might be wrong on that. He also gets a massive towncredit for pointing out geript's inconsistency during day 1.
Vivax: Essentially the same as Koshi, effort and stubbornness rating is through the roof compared to what I'd expect of mafia Vivax. He's also being a paranoid baddie which is something he excels at. He has also pointed out inconsistencies (specifically one by geript, I think) that was really good.
Trfel: To me, he's been completely under the radar this game. I might try to open his filter and read it before the evening, but so far I've essentially ignored most of his posts, which is often a good indication that someone is mafia (I tend to ignore mafia because their posts are usually bland and boring).
Scott: I liked one post by him on day 1 so weakest townread ever? I don't really know, another person I have less formed opinion on.
geript: Once again, he's almost lock mafia. His posting has been repeatedly proven to be out of touch with his own reality, and he's basically happy to sit back and let things happen.
Holyflare Another basically lock mafia. I'm almost more sure on him than geript. The main problem is that he barely cared during day 1, no matter how much he wants to make it look like he had a hand in the TW push. Then he came in late, helped with some shenanigans that to me made little sense (why didn't he try to shennie onto geript instead?). But even then he was light on actual content. Then during the night he starts hammering me for literally something he made up (trying to paint me bad for the Rels thing). there is 0% chance holyflare actually thinks what he says he's thinking. He's also quite a bit better at scumhunting than Koshi and Vivax and thus should know better than to think I'm mafia.
TW I don't know much about his posting today, but I sort of agreed with koshi's initial case, but he didn't sound like mafia when we were talking in the thread. So while I'm not gonna go overboard with it, I think he's more likely to be town.
Danieler No idea, not really read his filter much. I think I liked something he said, but I can't remember what or why. Like I don't have him in my mental "these people are scum" group.
Tictock Not really read up on him again. I basically gave him a townread when he posted the gif-reads on day 1 and I've not bothered with him since. Maybe it's time, but I think there's much higher mafia chance people. So tell me what is wrong with Palmar's post.
This post specifically? It's odd that you want me to look at a specific post, but here:
The main problem is that Palmar doesn't have an opinion on one person (Scott) and hasn't read the filters of three others (Trfel, DanelerH, Tictock). At that point in the game, that was nearly half the players.
Another issue I have with the post is the Geript read. As I have already said, it doesn't make sense for Geript to be Mafia. Granted, this was before the Day 2 lynch, but Palmar's read on Geript hasn't changed.
The last issue I have is giving Town-reads for ridiculous reasons. For Scott, it was because of liking a post on Day 1 (granted, Palmar admitted to this being a weak read and classified it as "no opinion"). For me, xe thinks xe liked something I said (but can't remember) and I'm "not in [xyr] mental 'these people are scum' group". For Tictock, it was because of liking the images for reads.
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On September 05 2016 02:29 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2016 23:56 DanelerH wrote:On September 04 2016 19:33 scott31337 wrote:DanelerH These are your current reads that you have posted. You believe Palmar is mafia, is that correct? On September 03 2016 22:41 DanelerH wrote:
After looking through Trfel's filter, I don't see anything that points to xem being Mafia. As such, I'm going to place xem under Town. Here is my current list:
Town:
Holyflare
Vivax
Geript
Koshi
Trfel
Mafia:
Tictock
Scott
Palmar
Out of the ones listed under Mafia, I think we should lynch either Scott or Palmar. And this from Palmar. On September 03 2016 00:03 Palmar wrote:
I am not mafia, no idea why people still think that's really an option.
I don't have the energy to argue against the train of stupidity that's coming after me. so instead I'll just share what I think is relevant in this game and you guys can then either listen to me now, or you can listen to me later.
Koshi: Almost definitely town. He is, in his own bad way, trying to get the game solved. Also, it's literally his town meta to think I'm mafia and be wrong about it. He's also not just tunneling one thing (for example he's not just tunneling me, he's actually doing other stuff). I liked his case on TW at the time on day 1, although I don't really think TW is mafia but I might be wrong on that. He also gets a massive towncredit for pointing out geript's inconsistency during day 1.
Vivax: Essentially the same as Koshi, effort and stubbornness rating is through the roof compared to what I'd expect of mafia Vivax. He's also being a paranoid baddie which is something he excels at. He has also pointed out inconsistencies (specifically one by geript, I think) that was really good.
Trfel: To me, he's been completely under the radar this game. I might try to open his filter and read it before the evening, but so far I've essentially ignored most of his posts, which is often a good indication that someone is mafia (I tend to ignore mafia because their posts are usually bland and boring).
Scott: I liked one post by him on day 1 so weakest townread ever? I don't really know, another person I have less formed opinion on.
geript: Once again, he's almost lock mafia. His posting has been repeatedly proven to be out of touch with his own reality, and he's basically happy to sit back and let things happen.
Holyflare Another basically lock mafia. I'm almost more sure on him than geript. The main problem is that he barely cared during day 1, no matter how much he wants to make it look like he had a hand in the TW push. Then he came in late, helped with some shenanigans that to me made little sense (why didn't he try to shennie onto geript instead?). But even then he was light on actual content. Then during the night he starts hammering me for literally something he made up (trying to paint me bad for the Rels thing). there is 0% chance holyflare actually thinks what he says he's thinking. He's also quite a bit better at scumhunting than Koshi and Vivax and thus should know better than to think I'm mafia.
TW I don't know much about his posting today, but I sort of agreed with koshi's initial case, but he didn't sound like mafia when we were talking in the thread. So while I'm not gonna go overboard with it, I think he's more likely to be town.
Danieler No idea, not really read his filter much. I think I liked something he said, but I can't remember what or why. Like I don't have him in my mental "these people are scum" group.
Tictock Not really read up on him again. I basically gave him a townread when he posted the gif-reads on day 1 and I've not bothered with him since. Maybe it's time, but I think there's much higher mafia chance people. So tell me what is wrong with Palmar's post. This post specifically? It's odd that you want me to look at a specific post, but here: The main problem is that Palmar doesn't have an opinion on one person (Scott) and hasn't read the filters of three others (Trfel, DanelerH, Tictock). At that point in the game, that was nearly half the players. Another issue I have with the post is the Geript read. As I have already said, it doesn't make sense for Geript to be Mafia. Granted, this was before the Day 2 lynch, but Palmar's read on Geript hasn't changed. The last issue I have is giving Town-reads for ridiculous reasons. For Scott, it was because of liking a post on Day 1 (granted, Palmar admitted to this being a weak read and classified it as "no opinion"). For me, xe thinks xe liked something I said (but can't remember) and I'm "not in [xyr] mental 'these people are scum' group". For Tictock, it was because of liking the images for reads. It's pretty weird you skipped my other post as well. Please expand on ridiculous reasons please.
By "other post," I'm assuming you're referring to when you asked for my list. You already quoted it, so I saw no reason to respond with the same list twice. As for expanding on ridiculous reasons, I didn't see them as good reasons for Town-reads.
Scott: Liking one post barely got Scott a Town-read. It ended up being an "unformed opinion."
DanelerH: Liking one post, but not being able to remember it should land me in null. Not putting me in xyr "these people are scum" group is fine, but, in my opinion, should be a conclusion you come to after reading the filter (which Palmar did not do).
Tictock: Liking the images for reads. Do I really need to explain this one?
On September 05 2016 02:29 scott31337 wrote:It's like this post from Vivax - Show nested quote +On September 01 2016 10:39 scott31337 wrote:On September 01 2016 09:43 Vivax wrote:On September 01 2016 09:32 Trfel wrote:
The thing I really don't like about Koshi, is why is he so confident about scott31337 being town?
I looked through Koshi's filter, and I didn't see any reasons that he gave that scott31337 is town. Koshi said that he built a town case on scott31337, so I missed it (please link?), but I'm not seeing anything.
I also saw where Koshi said that he doesn't think that scott31337 is mafia but he really could be. Since then, scott31337 has not done anything worth townreading him for (in my opinion anyway), but Koshi's become far more confident in scott31337 being town, for seemingly no reason. If anything, the vote count analysis makes scott31337 look scummier IMO, not townier.
So this really confuses me. You're just the hero I deserved. The shitty part about this game is that if you start making inquiries about people who suspect you, they start calling you a discreditor or dismiss all you write as omgus (disfo being the best example). I even admit to suspecting people who throw scum at me almost instinctively, which is why my play is the weakest when a lot of people suspect me. It just creates too many distractions for me to handle. Sure I could just not give a fuck and do it anyway but I've learned that it mostly hurts my already not very popular opinions. So while I do my scott thing you do this Koshi thing and we're gucci. Hope you enjoyed this post of self-awareness. Scum surely can learn something from it when it comes to tilting me. This post has townie feels or you just changed your "meta" so much that I've read before, fuck it man. I'm going back to watching Trump's speech though in my home town. ##Unvote This is just so from a town mindset I finally figured out he was just tunneled town - It was just one post. Do you think that was ridiculous too?
Yes, especially since it had nothing to do with this game.
On September 05 2016 02:29 scott31337 wrote:
Your reads seem quite opposite from Palmar and I and others.
I'll ask again -
I want to know who you think are the three mafia.
Answered above.
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I think I'm probably going to vote for Scott.
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Because Palmar was the starting wagon, then it shifted to Tumblewood. It was never on Scott, except for one of Vivax's votes.
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Your lynch was also on Palmar. I was okay with the vote because Palmar was another person I was suspicious of. As for why I vote switched, the points on Tumblewood made sense and the vote on Palmar/Scott was clearly not going to happen.
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I just realized that I misread the Day 2 Lynch Count. Apparently there are two sections for votes on Scott for some reason.
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I still think Scott should be the lynch.
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On September 06 2016 04:38 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2016 04:31 Tictock wrote:On September 06 2016 01:09 Palmar wrote:On August 29 2016 19:00 Palmar wrote:On August 29 2016 18:45 Palmar wrote:
geript's two long posts are awful. He quotes a bunch of my posts and gives random commentary, then proceeds to make his conclusion some joke about marv.
Also, Rels still afk? wow such caught. Like to elaborate further on the geript thing. It's of special notice that when he is posting, Rels is clearly running away with the vote, and as such, geript should be paying attention to that part of the game, yet all he says about my case is "i am not impressed" without giving any further reasoning about it. In his conclusion he states "Rels is useless as usual" or something like that, which is like the weakest possible stance you can take on the person currently up for lynch. Like I would've been fine if geript's criticism was actually explained, or thought out at all. His long posts really stick out as "I'm gonna quote a bunch of shit and add random commentary so it looks like I'm doing things". Essentially, despite the long form of his posts, what he has done is basically written a glorified list post that looks something like this: On August 29 2016 15:05 geript wrote:
Town
HF
Koshi
Vivax
Leaning Town
Trfel
Null
Palmar
Scott
Rels
Scum
Tumble
RB
disfo
Not that lists aren't fine, they're often a good way to gauge where someone stands on a game, but meeeehhh~~~ Also, he completely disregarded my point on RB which I still think is an excellent point. So yeah. geript's entrance is shit. On August 29 2016 23:21 Palmar wrote:The point is, geript was generally "suspicious" or at least "meh" on most of the things I posted (which is incidentally a very weak stance to take) and then he does this: On August 29 2016 14:45 geript wrote:On August 29 2016 07:29 Palmar wrote:
Although just thinking that makes him like super likely to be town. Which kinda sucks, because it's a super "cheap" townread, but there is almost no way Race Bannon makes that post as mafia. Probably true, but I want to lynch him just for bringing it up. Notice the "probably true". He agrees with my logic (and it's perfect logic, my RB read is literlally the best thing in this thread). Geript actually agrees that objectively RB's thought process should lead people to conclude he is town. On August 29 2016 15:05 geript wrote:
Overall:
HF, Koshi and Vivax are probably town. I'll put them there for now at least. I think I'll put Ticktock up there too, but I feel a bit waffly about him. Palmar's in plammar limbo, if for no other reason than he hasn't convince Marv to play. Tumblewood, Race and Disinfo are probably scum; I'm tempted to throw Dane in there too but I kinda think he just doesn't know how to play. Trfel I'll figure out for sure when he makes an actual case, but I'd guess he's just bad town. Scott's sorta weird; like he seems to talk around issues; he's posting a bit more than I remember him usually posting. I sorta kinda like a bit of his stuff, but he avoids actual stuff and just seems to chip in to get other people to talk about stuff and that gives me the heebiejeebies. Rels is uselss as usual.
and yet he somehow ends up in geript's scumlist. Which basically proves the point that I was trying to make that geript's random commentary is just that, completely random and has no relevance to what he's actually thinking. His summary does not match with his commentary, because he's disassociated from his reads, ie: they're not real because they're not real. He's mafia. This is actually a really, really good day 1 case guys. Get in line. On September 01 2016 01:12 Palmar wrote:On September 01 2016 00:23 Vivax wrote:On August 29 2016 15:05 geript wrote:-snip- On August 29 2016 10:44 Tumblewood wrote:On August 29 2016 08:36 Tictock wrote:On August 29 2016 08:04 Tumblewood wrote:On August 29 2016 07:14 Race Bannon wrote:
Tumblewood, Koshi. for me. waitwaitwait hold on all Koshi does is talk about himself and then quote a post and call me mafia and we're scumbuddies? no way I was tempted to call you scum as well before this post. Willing to townlean you for this though. thank you, I was proud of that read Wait, WTF???? This:
On August 29 2016 08:36 Tictock wrote:On August 29 2016 08:04 Tumblewood wrote:On August 29 2016 07:14 Race Bannon wrote:
Tumblewood, Koshi. for me. waitwaitwait hold on all Koshi does is talk about himself and then quote a post and call me mafia and we're scumbuddies? no way I was tempted to call you scum as well before this post. Willing to townlean you for this though.
This is a reason to townread someone? That's a pretty fucking terrible reason to think anyone's town. That said: On August 29 2016 07:14 Race Bannon wrote:
Tumblewood, Koshi. for me. This is really fucking weird pair to be scumreading. -snip- HF, Koshi and Vivax are probably town. I'll put them there for now at least. I think I'll put Ticktock up there too, but I feel a bit waffly about him. Palmar's in plammar limbo, if for no other reason than he hasn't convince Marv to play. Tumblewood, Race and Disinfo are probably scum; I'm tempted to throw Dane in there too but I kinda think he just doesn't know how to play. Trfel I'll figure out for sure when he makes an actual case, but I'd guess he's just bad town. Scott's sorta weird; like he seems to talk around issues; he's posting a bit more than I remember him usually posting. I sorta kinda like a bit of his stuff, but he avoids actual stuff and just seems to chip in to get other people to talk about stuff and that gives me the heebiejeebies. Rels is uselss as usual. On August 31 2016 05:37 geript wrote:On August 31 2016 05:34 Koshi wrote:
Reread TW his last 2 pages and he is giving us nothing... He just plays on emotions. Trying to survive. I'm giving meds in between reading, can you give me like a point by point on why you think he's scum. so I can think about it while I filter him. The worst I found is this. Geript goes WTF on TW, then ends up calling TT's reason to TR somebody terrible. No mention of TW at all here. His comment wasn't as WTF as it looks to be, it's rather ignored to jump to what TT said. Yet geript somehow ends up putting TW as mafia. Later asks somebody to give him a summary for why TW is mafia when he's already supposed to have his own. Can't find any besides an earlier mention of minus points for TW refusing to explain Palmar suspicion.Main point still is that geript had TW as scum for unclear reasons earlier, which he completely forgot around EoD when he wasted his vote on Danieler when he could have at least lynched scott for giving him the heebiejeebies. This here is a very similar (and very valid) point to the one I made on day 1 regarding geript's RB read. The concept is exactly the same: geript doesn't have any kind of internal consistency in his reads. I'm fine with people changing their minds, but this isn't as much changing his mind as it is just him saying random stuff at random times. On September 05 2016 20:29 Palmar wrote:
I'm voting geript.
He has twice shown massive inconsistencies in his own reads.
He has done almost nothing to move the game in whatever direction he wants to take it.
He only comments on the game occasionally, and usually with little impact. Geript has been extreamly dull to me this game. I recall him having a bit more personality and drive. Votes/pushes have indeed felt pretty uninterested. Yea I could sheep this. I'd rather convince Palmar to switch to Trfel, but if he will not, This will be my #2. I feel the least confident about geript, and that's mostly because Dandel could be mafia instead. The Geript/Dandel reads I feel the weakest on. And if we do switch to Geript, we all do (Koshi/you/me) I want five on it if HF votes for geript as well.
Holyflare is voting for Geript.
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Alright. I'll vote for Geript. A Scott vote doesn't look like it will go anywhere and Geript is looking like a good lynch.
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I'm calling Scott/Palmar/Tictock.
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I didn't think it was Holyflare and Koshi. Looks like I only got 1/3 right.
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EPT
