[M][N] Star Wars: Rogue 1 Hype Mafia - Page 28

On August 29 2016 06:46 scott31337 wrote:


So just for fun, I checked Rel's two last games as Mafia that are in the database -http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=494436&user=Rels&view=all http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=494873&user=Rels&view=all

So one was Palmar's witch game where he comes in and starts talking about game setup crap for an entrance (well can't really do that here)
and the other he starts just talking shit

Rels doesn't enter games with any information, he usually just talks.

This could be a good idea.

On August 30 2016 06:34 Tumblewood wrote:
wowww did rb really vote koshi in the voting thread? if that doesn't change soon I will be very suspicious of rb. although for now I think this game is different from rb's other two scum games (newbie XX and idk some other game) that looked a lot like luna's town meta. maybe the metamorphosis to spambeast has changed rb's meta a lot though.
back to the koshi vote. if it's semi-serious it's bad

On August 29 2016 07:29 Palmar wrote:
Although just thinking that makes him like super likely to be town. Which kinda sucks, because it's a super "cheap" townread, but there is almost no way Race Bannon makes that post as mafia.

On August 30 2016 06:55 scott31337 wrote:


Who are the other mafia?

When I flip town can we lynch you?

On August 29 2016 14:45 geript wrote:

Trfel should know better than to open like this as town.


This expansion is pretty bad. Vivax had the only correct response to Trfel's "I am scum" post. This post and the expansion from it are bad. I associate that more with scum!trfel but he can be bad as town too.

On August 30 2016 07:33 Rels wrote:

So "Trfel can be bad as town" but "he should know better than to open like this as town" ? I don't understand why you posted that first thing if you're actually thinking the second one.

On August 29 2016 21:50 Vivax wrote:
Methinks we are all on a wrong track atm. We were until I found enlightenment.

Spoilered road to enlightenment.
+ Show Spoiler +
So I'll go right ahead and tell you who our D1 lynch is. It's scott.

What I noticed in Grack in the other game was that he tended to attach to a lot of issues simultaneously by posting semi contributive posts that tended to end with questions , then he would jump to other issues the actual townies were talking about without pursuing the previously happened discussion. He would also occasionally post jokish stuff.

So if I had to make a summary of how mafia played:

- no own agenda, just reacting to townies and their topics.
- no committment to what he said.
- liked opportunities to start talking about hogwash.
- + one could go on about finding similarities.

Anyway, let me proceed with formulating how all of this actually makes scott mafia.

THE CASE ON SCOTT

Question that doesn't show any own opinion and is left unattended for the rest of his posts. It was just the hot topic at the time so he drops it to appear invested.

Random reactive question that seems irrelevant even to himself. Check.



Simply mirrors what Koshi said in his next post. Apparently thinks I'm mafia with Trfel but so far he didn't even spell it out once.

Low committment to his declared opinion. Check.



Random low seriousness post. Check.



Just for fun he checks Rels last two games.

He comes to a completely different conclusion than Palmar. Bolded.
"Wait, Rels actually just talks about unimportant stuff as mafia early".BUT
"Palmar could have a good idea" even though what Palmar is saying is that Rels doesn't talk.

Appeasing and weak opinion that isn't in line with his findings. Check.



I have trouble understanding this but I think what scott is saying here is that Trfel would find easier targets as mafia. Anyway this is his chance to get back to talk about Trfel's entrance but he doesn't take it even though he appeared to be interested into it earlier.

Another reactionary post to (what I think) a townie said. Check.



Not "This post doesn't make any sense, you are mafia!", but "are you mafia again?". Hiding behind questions to not have to do anything even with a good reason to. Check.



His buddy? How is HF even supposed to be his buddy. Scott doesn't have an own agenda HF could support. Check.



Random question.



Useless question.



COol, now he's talking about our timezones. He apparently thinks that knowing Danielers timezone he can get information about his alignment?



Random questions.



Random questions.

Back to the earlier posts, don't you think he should have me and Trfel as scummy? Do you see anything of the sort in his later posts? Nope .

Rest of his filter is short enough that you can go through it by yourself, but scott is mafiAAAAAAAA and we have to lynch him. Pls help me lynch him town

On August 30 2016 07:54 Holyflare wrote:


Why is this the first post you pick up on when disformation does exactly the same thing? Isn't this quite a lot later too?

On August 29 2016 06:24 disformation wrote:
currently trying to debate if trfel is going for the mad wifom play (i have seen sl or oneg (would need to doublecheck)) insta scum claim as scum before. dont know if that would be in trfel's scum range. would go with no.
or is he trying to get town to generate content by talking about that.

on the other hand he is kinda annoying me already, which is normally not in trfel's range. so he might be trying to break meta.

On August 30 2016 08:05 Holyflare wrote:
He shouldn't be but he can be, I hardly see how that's a bad post?

Disformation on the other hand says it's not within trfel's range as scum = town and that he's possibly doing it as town for discussion and then goes on to vote trfel like a page later.

But anyway, carry on.

On August 30 2016 06:34 Tumblewood wrote:
wowww did rb really vote koshi in the voting thread? if that doesn't change soon I will be very suspicious of rb. although for now I think this game is different from rb's other two scum games (newbie XX and idk some other game) that looked a lot like luna's town meta. maybe the metamorphosis to spambeast has changed rb's meta a lot though.
back to the koshi vote. if it's semi-serious it's bad

On August 30 2016 01:56 Vivax wrote:


And you suck TT. It can't be a meta read cause I'm not judging him based on meta.

What I did is much better: I analyzed a confirmed scum in a finished game and found out that scott's play is the one which has most things in common with how a mafia plays, so he's likely mafia. Carefully laid out. That case is science, bitch!

If you won't read walls of text made by your suspect don't play this game thanks.

On August 30 2016 02:59 Tumblewood wrote:
hm I should have made this post yesterday when I saw this and remembered the post. maybe this was it?

also the points/demerits shit. substitute for actually doing stuff. he's so polite though and my feels alarm is going off

On August 30 2016 08:31 Rels wrote:
Caught up. I want to lynch one of:
- scott: see Vivax case. Very disconnected to any pushes this game but posts random questions + have a very bad reason to vote me, since his "meta analysis" should indicate Palmar's "reason" to push me was not supported by meta, yet he acted like it did. As a counter to Koshi, scott has an habit of making spreadsheet so it's not impossible he's making one as town to replicate his meta.
- tumble: not involved in the game. Has random posts about different things / people but there is no continuous thought process to be seen. He's just posting whatever is in his head, which is scum indicative. In particular, his TT post was one I liked and agreed with, but like everything else he posted about he posted about something else afterwards.
- TT: I had the exact same impression Tumble posted about. He's reasonnable but, having played with him quite a few times, his "nice" tone matches his scum meta. As town he will not care for what people thinks about him and just post stuff about finding scum.
- geript: two big posts that are meh and contains two things that don't make sense. First, the thing above about Trfel. Second, the thing about RB being likely townie but being in his scumlist. His explanation makes little sense, he should use every information at his disposal to find scum. I know I find RB's posts about his PM to be borderline cheating but he didn't do it on purpose and he's confirmed town now.

On August 29 2016 06:36 Tumblewood wrote:

nah no thanks