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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 05 2016 18:03 GMT
#1667
Let me just reiterate this to you.

EVERYBODY MUST BE ON THE SAME WAGON TODAY IF YOU ARE TOWN. ABSOLUTELY NOBODY SHOULD BE ON A SEPARATE WAGON.

I WILL NOT BE VOTING TRFEL TODAY SO IF YOU STAY ON HIM YOU'RE MAFIA FOR NOT SHEEPING ONTO THE WAGON WITH CONFIRMED TOWN ME ON IT.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 05 2016 20:00 GMT
#1690
im here kill geript
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 05 2016 20:06 GMT
#1691
On September 06 2016 04:36 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2016 02:27 Holyflare wrote:
Ticktock/geript/scott is probably what I'll go for.

Ticktock's post on you trfel are atrociously opportunistic and don't match what he's said at all. There's also that post i quoted above where he gives reasons for you to be town but in fact says you're mafia for it.


The amount of failure in your ability to understand what I write astounds me. I was quite clearly saying how I interpreted his post before and how that lead me to form an early lead, but what he had said in a recent post countered that line of thought.

It's like you are not even trying to see what my thought process is.

If you think me swapping two of my reads around is opportunistic well then that should be fun for you.


There is no failure to understand. You said your original read was that his first post was to generate information, something a townie would do. He just explained he didn't have time to play and did exactly that.

Your new reasoning is that he was just trying to look food despite:

A) Him saying he did exactly what you thought in the first place.

B) Vivax explaining how trfl has never opened like that in any mafia game.

If I'm wrong please explain how while you consolidate onto the geript wagon.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 05 2016 20:13 GMT
#1693
Get the fuck back here people. If you are not voting for geript and you think either me or palmar are town you are 100% throwing this game.

If you are not voting geript explain why or die.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 05 2016 20:16 GMT
#1694
On September 06 2016 04:31 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2016 01:09 Palmar wrote:
On August 29 2016 19:00 Palmar wrote:
On August 29 2016 18:45 Palmar wrote:
geript's two long posts are awful. He quotes a bunch of my posts and gives random commentary, then proceeds to make his conclusion some joke about marv.

Also, Rels still afk? wow such caught.


Like to elaborate further on the geript thing. It's of special notice that when he is posting, Rels is clearly running away with the vote, and as such, geript should be paying attention to that part of the game, yet all he says about my case is "i am not impressed" without giving any further reasoning about it. In his conclusion he states "Rels is useless as usual" or something like that, which is like the weakest possible stance you can take on the person currently up for lynch.

Like I would've been fine if geript's criticism was actually explained, or thought out at all. His long posts really stick out as "I'm gonna quote a bunch of shit and add random commentary so it looks like I'm doing things".

Essentially, despite the long form of his posts, what he has done is basically written a glorified list post that looks something like this:

On August 29 2016 15:05 geript wrote:

Town
HF
Koshi
Vivax

Leaning Town
Trfel

Null
Palmar
Scott
Rels

Scum
Tumble
RB
disfo



Not that lists aren't fine, they're often a good way to gauge where someone stands on a game, but meeeehhh~~~

Also, he completely disregarded my point on RB which I still think is an excellent point.

So yeah. geript's entrance is shit.



On August 29 2016 23:21 Palmar wrote:
The point is, geript was generally "suspicious" or at least "meh" on most of the things I posted (which is incidentally a very weak stance to take) and then he does this:

On August 29 2016 14:45 geript wrote:
On August 29 2016 07:29 Palmar wrote:
Although just thinking that makes him like super likely to be town. Which kinda sucks, because it's a super "cheap" townread, but there is almost no way Race Bannon makes that post as mafia.

Probably true, but I want to lynch him just for bringing it up.


Notice the "probably true". He agrees with my logic (and it's perfect logic, my RB read is literlally the best thing in this thread). Geript actually agrees that objectively RB's thought process should lead people to conclude he is town.

On August 29 2016 15:05 geript wrote:
Overall:
HF, Koshi and Vivax are probably town. I'll put them there for now at least. I think I'll put Ticktock up there too, but I feel a bit waffly about him. Palmar's in plammar limbo, if for no other reason than he hasn't convince Marv to play. Tumblewood, Race and Disinfo are probably scum; I'm tempted to throw Dane in there too but I kinda think he just doesn't know how to play. Trfel I'll figure out for sure when he makes an actual case, but I'd guess he's just bad town. Scott's sorta weird; like he seems to talk around issues; he's posting a bit more than I remember him usually posting. I sorta kinda like a bit of his stuff, but he avoids actual stuff and just seems to chip in to get other people to talk about stuff and that gives me the heebiejeebies. Rels is uselss as usual.


and yet he somehow ends up in geript's scumlist. Which basically proves the point that I was trying to make that geript's random commentary is just that, completely random and has no relevance to what he's actually thinking. His summary does not match with his commentary, because he's disassociated from his reads, ie: they're not real because they're not real. He's mafia.

This is actually a really, really good day 1 case guys. Get in line.


On September 01 2016 01:12 Palmar wrote:
On September 01 2016 00:23 Vivax wrote:
On August 29 2016 15:05 geript wrote:
-snip-

On August 29 2016 10:44 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 29 2016 08:36 Tictock wrote:
On August 29 2016 08:04 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 29 2016 07:14 Race Bannon wrote:
Tumblewood, Koshi. for me.

waitwaitwait hold on
all Koshi does is talk about himself and then quote a post and call me mafia
and we're scumbuddies?
no way


I was tempted to call you scum as well before this post.

Willing to townlean you for this though.

thank you, I was proud of that read


Wait, WTF???? This:

On August 29 2016 08:36 Tictock wrote:
On August 29 2016 08:04 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 29 2016 07:14 Race Bannon wrote:
Tumblewood, Koshi. for me.

waitwaitwait hold on
all Koshi does is talk about himself and then quote a post and call me mafia
and we're scumbuddies?
no way


I was tempted to call you scum as well before this post.

Willing to townlean you for this though.


This is a reason to townread someone? That's a pretty fucking terrible reason to think anyone's town.

That said:
On August 29 2016 07:14 Race Bannon wrote:
Tumblewood, Koshi. for me.

This is really fucking weird pair to be scumreading.

-snip-

HF, Koshi and Vivax are probably town. I'll put them there for now at least. I think I'll put Ticktock up there too, but I feel a bit waffly about him. Palmar's in plammar limbo, if for no other reason than he hasn't convince Marv to play. Tumblewood, Race and Disinfo are probably scum; I'm tempted to throw Dane in there too but I kinda think he just doesn't know how to play. Trfel I'll figure out for sure when he makes an actual case, but I'd guess he's just bad town. Scott's sorta weird; like he seems to talk around issues; he's posting a bit more than I remember him usually posting. I sorta kinda like a bit of his stuff, but he avoids actual stuff and just seems to chip in to get other people to talk about stuff and that gives me the heebiejeebies. Rels is uselss as usual.



On August 31 2016 05:37 geript wrote:
On August 31 2016 05:34 Koshi wrote:
Reread TW his last 2 pages and he is giving us nothing... He just plays on emotions. Trying to survive.

I'm giving meds in between reading, can you give me like a point by point on why you think he's scum. so I can think about it while I filter him.


The worst I found is this. Geript goes WTF on TW, then ends up calling TT's reason to TR somebody terrible. No mention of TW at all here. His comment wasn't as WTF as it looks to be, it's rather ignored to jump to what TT said. Yet geript somehow ends up putting TW as mafia.

Later asks somebody to give him a summary for why TW is mafia when he's already supposed to have his own. Can't find any besides an earlier mention of minus points for TW refusing to explain Palmar suspicion.

Main point still is that geript had TW as scum for unclear reasons earlier, which he completely forgot around EoD when he wasted his vote on Danieler when he could have at least lynched scott for giving him the heebiejeebies.


This here is a very similar (and very valid) point to the one I made on day 1 regarding geript's RB read. The concept is exactly the same: geript doesn't have any kind of internal consistency in his reads. I'm fine with people changing their minds, but this isn't as much changing his mind as it is just him saying random stuff at random times.


On September 05 2016 20:29 Palmar wrote:
I'm voting geript.

He has twice shown massive inconsistencies in his own reads.

He has done almost nothing to move the game in whatever direction he wants to take it.

He only comments on the game occasionally, and usually with little impact.





Geript has been extreamly dull to me this game. I recall him having a bit more personality and drive. Votes/pushes have indeed felt pretty uninterested.

Yea I could sheep this.


Vote geript.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 05 2016 20:20 GMT
#1696
There is 0 case for a trfl lynch. Ticktock fabricated his read, he won't explain it to me but calls it wrong, all he does is calls me mafia and writes narratives but never actually pushes me.

Scott actually has no read but pretty colours.
Koshi is consolidating with likely mafia.

Or

There's actual cases on geript, his play forever has been mediocre.

I'm confirmed town and you need to consolidate with me.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 05 2016 20:25 GMT
#1697
On September 06 2016 05:19 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2016 05:06 Holyflare wrote:
On September 06 2016 04:36 Tictock wrote:
On September 06 2016 02:27 Holyflare wrote:
Ticktock/geript/scott is probably what I'll go for.

Ticktock's post on you trfel are atrociously opportunistic and don't match what he's said at all. There's also that post i quoted above where he gives reasons for you to be town but in fact says you're mafia for it.


The amount of failure in your ability to understand what I write astounds me. I was quite clearly saying how I interpreted his post before and how that lead me to form an early lead, but what he had said in a recent post countered that line of thought.

It's like you are not even trying to see what my thought process is.

If you think me swapping two of my reads around is opportunistic well then that should be fun for you.


There is no failure to understand. You said your original read was that his first post was to generate information, something a townie would do. He just explained he didn't have time to play and did exactly that.

Your new reasoning is that he was just trying to look food despite:

A) Him saying he did exactly what you thought in the first place.

B) Vivax explaining how trfl has never opened like that in any mafia game.

If I'm wrong please explain how while you consolidate onto the geript wagon.


A) Nope, I thought he was trying to get reactions, not trying to stand out so it looked like he was doing stuff.

B) This is definitely not
Show nested quote +
Vivax explaining how trfl has never opened like that in any mafia game.


I'm still deciding if geript is for sure a better lynch than Trfel.


Perhaps you should read your own trfl quote again where he says he also wanted to interact and get as much information out as possible in case he had to go. Very townie, the thing you originally town read him for never changed.

Also, sure it's just Carol but it's WILDLY different. Please link a trfel game where he's anything like this game (pro tip, you won't be able to).

I get you think I'm suspicious, I don't give a fuck. If you're town you have failed in your job of convincing me that trfel is mafia by virtue of never really arguing he's mafia. There are very good geript cases. You HAVE to be on here if you think me or palmar are town. Mafia can just vote switch with any non majority like it is currently.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 05 2016 20:26 GMT
#1698
Also ignore what I said above, you explained in your own twisted way and I'm grateful. It's time to put your ego aside and sheep this wagon.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 05 2016 20:28 GMT
#1701
On September 06 2016 05:27 geript wrote:
Koshi, Dane, TT for eog cred


You need to consolidate with confirmed town. Vote geript.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 05 2016 20:32 GMT
#1703
On September 06 2016 05:28 scott31337 wrote:
Tictock already went over points and so have I - you make it sound like there's nothing when there's quite a bit of evidence. You have to defend Trfel - if he gets lynched everything unravels for you and town has an extremely good chance of winning the game.

I'm still unsure if it's geript or dandiel for #3, - although I feel a little stronger on geript - but I have to go with a shot in the dark and with my town reads.


I just broke down ticktock's points as trashy his other points are "wishy washy" quite literally the entirety of geript's filter is nothing but wishy washy. Perhaps you'd like to read it and get off your smug high horse of failure.

Your points are crappy association reads which I've actually defeated your entire argument by linking you to quite literally my last normal game where the same argument was made and i was cop.

You think I'm mafia for some daft reason, great, good for you, what an amazingly bad read.

Now play the game, read Palmar's case posts (that your best buddy ticktock likes) and ACTUALLY READ GERIPT'S FILTER OK?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 05 2016 20:37 GMT
#1707
Yes town geript would know not to throw the game at endgame.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 05 2016 20:47 GMT
#1716
On September 06 2016 05:43 Palmar wrote:
that votecount is off.

also too many people agreeing with me on geript is scary.

although of course maybe I'm still right and mafia is just getting on the wagon. If geript flips mafia that does NOT mean everyone on his wagon now is town. HF and DH have basically haven't given a shit about my geript read until today.


Because I flat out ignored him day 1/2 and then his crapness increased exponentially since then. I also actually read his filter for the first time :p

I also don't see how 2 people voting for your read at a time when it should be everyone woth 10 mins till deadline is suspicious in the slightest.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 05 2016 20:48 GMT
#1719
Tt 100% but we don't have the votes. I'm certainly not jeopardising a majority.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 05 2016 20:50 GMT
#1721
On September 06 2016 05:50 scott31337 wrote:
If I stay mafia can shennanie
If i dont mafia can
arrr
KOOOSHIIII


Switch you whore, stop ruining this game after not playing in it.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 05 2016 20:52 GMT
#1725
On September 06 2016 05:51 Trfel wrote:
If geript and DanelerH are here and willing I would switch to Tictock.

Geript's not even voting to save himself. And I know it's not because the counterwagon is mafia.


Tell me why we would switch off geript?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 05 2016 20:55 GMT
#1732
On September 06 2016 05:53 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2016 05:52 Holyflare wrote:
On September 06 2016 05:51 Trfel wrote:
If geript and DanelerH are here and willing I would switch to Tictock.

Geript's not even voting to save himself. And I know it's not because the counterwagon is mafia.


Tell me why we would switch off geript?


If you can't figure it out for yourself, why should I help you?


I want him to explain it himself oh infallible reader of trfels
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 05 2016 20:56 GMT
#1734
On September 06 2016 05:55 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2016 05:52 Holyflare wrote:
On September 06 2016 05:51 Trfel wrote:
If geript and DanelerH are here and willing I would switch to Tictock.

Geript's not even voting to save himself. And I know it's not because the counterwagon is mafia.


Tell me why we would switch off geript?
Geript hasn't felt very involved at choosing lynches and influential in the game. But that aside, he's provided a ton of posts that show that he is thinking about the game. He's been referencing meta in a very geript-y way*, he's been talking about his thought process openly and honestly, and he's not voting to save himself here.

*Geript as town uses unique meta reads on players that can be scary accurate. I remember this from the Fullmetal game where he was town and destroyed the mafia team (including me). I see some of those same reads here. I honestly don't know if he does it as mafia but it's an integral part of his thought process here, so it makes him look more like town.


I lost faith in your read the exact second you said you don't know if he does it as mafia, sorry.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 05 2016 20:56 GMT
#1738
On September 06 2016 05:55 geript wrote:
I'm here. I'm still not going to chnge my vote.


You're not town, you didn't consolidate on geript.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 05 2016 20:58 GMT
#1743
People aren't on geript? Wtf
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 05 2016 20:59 GMT
#1747
That doesn't even make sense koshi.
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