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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 17 2016 11:35 GMT
#1599
sicklucker, why did you vote chez over Superbia and second, do you have any reads on anyone.

I mean really, anyone. There's 28 people in this damned game.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 17 2016 12:00 GMT
#1613
Alright, just about caught up, agreed on the other scum reads with prplhz. Aside HFs concerns, there's questions (i.e. to Vivax) that don't serve too much purposes and most of what he's discussing are the lurkers....and that's it.

I'm not sure about the peace/chaos thing and how that works mechanically but I'm not sure where the townread on Chez is coming from either (getting two competing reads from Artanis and Koshi). It's just really difficult for me to read him and mechanics could be designed for either alignment.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 17 2016 12:03 GMT
#1614
Luna is solving the game a little bit from a role/mechanic standpoint, last post responding to Koshi (1519) was kinda okay, would be helpful for some of us doubting him if he gave scum reads on people not entirely based on mechanics, I think two people now (Kita/HF?) have told him to not do that.

The rolereading I took as a newer player not really familiar with the mechs of themed games, NBD there.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 17 2016 12:08 GMT
#1616
On August 17 2016 16:18 Trfel wrote:
Is anyone awake still?

Still trying to make sense of Onegu and Artanis... While Onegu's actions and specific claims seem very scummy, his play is marked by so much not caring, and Onegu tends to take his scum play relatively seriously. On the other hand, third party feels very likely.

I liked Artanis after skim reading, but then realized that he actually hasn't been doing anything.
It feels like he's just trying to seem active and present but he hasn't felt invested at all. In addition to being so secretive about (seemingly) taking control of Superbia's body...

I definitely support killing Onegu with the FOX News thing. Maybe Shapelog would also qualify as anti-American...


Trfel is someone that I know spins behaviour to be mafia when he is exclusively mafia.

(1) Artanis had not been hiding the DGAF attitude so he didn't care that he was getting scumread for it, which is actually a towny trait
(2) The so called bounty hunter role (or the action of controlling someone's body) is a mechanic that (knowing Palmar) could be assigned to either alignment
(3) Onegu will "not care" what others think as town or scum (the latter example: see Outlaw).

So I really don't like that post either.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 17 2016 12:08 GMT
#1617
Need to do work things, but I'll be back.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 17 2016 12:09 GMT
#1618
Oh and one last thing, friendly word of advice Lunaticman, try not to meta people after 1-2 games. There are many reasons for this.

Now I'm off.

The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 17 2016 14:42 GMT
#1693
This is where I am:

Not entirely sure/will need to be sussed out a bit more:
GlowingBear (some townie thought towards the end, though I am deliberately ignoring mechs here, some similar reads to mine)
Dandel Ion (meh)
Lunaticman (need to really see actual reads and not just surviving on mech discussion)
Grackaroni (originally was good but not remembering too many impactful posts from him more recently, falling under the radar?)
MZ (some of his reads I liked but more content would make me more confident on him)

The "dear vig, please take out the trash" pile:
Rels (pending catching up)
Stutters695
Kurumi
Shapelog
Fecalfeast

Possible scum
Trfel (it's somewhere in my filter)
sicklucker (where are the reads)
Chezinu (all he does is go on about his position, someone please shoot him, clearly he's not helping town even compared to Star Wars where you got some semblance he was trying to)

Scum reads
prplhz
Onegu (I make no distinction between anti-town third parties and scum)
IAP

I would say that vigis should target the bottom six players.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 17 2016 14:44 GMT
#1695
On August 17 2016 23:35 disformation wrote:
Just wanted to make sure cause I never heard that term before.


In themed games it is quite possible for mafia to have a protective role or a bulletproof vest of some sort (example: JOAT).
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 17 2016 21:05 GMT
#1979
Catching up again.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 17 2016 21:05 GMT
#1980
On August 18 2016 06:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2016 05:57 Lunaticman wrote:
In case I die:

Town:
Stutters695

Scummish:
Artanis[Xp] (I think he is townish but he has a super role, might be third party)

???


That was my first impression when I saw that list post too.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 17 2016 21:15 GMT
#1983
On August 18 2016 05:52 Damdred wrote:
Oh god, I wonder who did that


Speculation - wonder if it might be a penalty with the sheer number of lurkers we have had this game.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 17 2016 21:35 GMT
#1987
Things we know about Fecalfeast

- looking for Pokemon
- From Japan
- applied for a USSR passport
- reads: ???????????????????????????
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 17 2016 21:58 GMT
#1995
And so we wait...
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 19 2016 00:19 GMT
#2070
I'm back. Work has been a beast. Actually it's been pretty terrible but I digress.

Anyhow first things first, I'm claiming the shot on Grackaroni. I had one bullet only shoot people who held/were holding bananas (kills wouldn't register if I just shot anyone and they didn't have a banana) and there was zero to negative chance in hell I was shooting either of Kita or Dandel Ion.

Kita was/is a strong townread of mine. From SOTW I learnt Dandel plays a bit different so I tried to evalulate him in context and felt he was town.

Grack I really felt several of his reads, particularly pushing Kita over the bananas - a mechanic that could involve either alignment - was forced. Additionally his play from Onegu 2 wasn't as townie so I had gotten the impression he was feigning interest in the game, there was a lot of posting just to post. I read and re-read his filter before making the decision to shoot him.

TLDR: He felt like a sleeper mafia to me.

If I could have shot the people I'd really have wanted to I sure would have, had no banana claimers appeared on any part of my shit list prior to the end of day I would have held the shot. Furthermore, he wasn't being universally scumread so I figured also the chances of a scum Grack being protected by his team would have been slim.

An alternative plan I was thinking was trying to bait Kita or Dandel into giving the banana to a stronger scum read of mine before end of day so I could shoot them. I thought of this for awhile but I couldn't think of a convincing way to have them give it to a scum read of mine and I also didn't want to telegraph my intentions or potential implications to mafia either. (I "say" bait because they had the impressions that bananas were beneficial. If I argued with them I think I would have drawn attention to myself IDK.)

So that's that.

Second I also think prplhz is some sort of mafia PGO. Vivax put into play his roleblocking Spock action:

On August 17 2016 21:55 Vivax wrote:
Honestly I'm getting fed up with prpl just considering Chez with plenty of other shit flying around.

So.

##Live long and prosper: Prplhz

[image loading]


And right before actions resolve, he says this:

On August 18 2016 06:58 prplhz wrote:
if someone killed me they're gonna be super disappointed


This is two minutes before deadline.

For those new to TL/themed games: PGO is paranoid gun owner. A paranoid gun owner has a passive that auto-kills anyone who targets it, not nec via NK. MafiaScum definition here: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Paranoid_Gun_Owner

So we need to find a way to take prplhz down or another top scum read ASAP through some lynch mechanic I feel if people feel this is what we are truly dealing with. Those of you not already scumreading him, look at his filter, there's a lot of pointless questions and garbage that goes nowhere.

As for the mechanics of a PGO with a nuke, it sounds wonky, maybe mafia day vigged Vivax, he was near universally town read. But the timing of those quotes - and his filter - made me wonder this possibility as well.

Not fully caught up yet but there we go.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 19 2016 00:22 GMT
#2071
On August 19 2016 07:50 kitaman27 wrote:
##I announce my candidacy for the Chancellor of Europe

I promise to be completely transparent with all my actions as Chancellor. If I'm able to share my election choices with the thread before choosing, I'll definitely do so. Otherwise I'll go with the most pro-town option like a lynch or public dt check.

I also get a bonus power if elected, similar to Obama's NSA quicktopic spy bonus power, so that would swell to obtain.

Vote for Kita ^_^


I'd run myself and I'd have this same platform, but I'm not about to split the vote. And I don't have any bonus for election.
I'd vote for either you or Koshi.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 19 2016 00:29 GMT
#2073
On August 19 2016 07:47 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2016 07:04 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Kita why do you think fecalfeast is mostly townie?


His play so far doesn't really remind me of the last game I played with him where I red checked him in PYPI. Plus having HTS as your main mafia read is one of those too crazy to be scum kinda things. He hasn't posted much at all so he was pretty close to making the null list.


I can actually think of a reason the read on me could come from a scum FF, but I don't want to put words in his mouth.

Fecalfeast has also been all over the board in terms of activity as both alignments.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 19 2016 00:32 GMT
#2074
Reading a few filters atm. Not impressed with Rels at all, I can think of several shortcuts to get a few scumreads out even if pressed for time.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 19 2016 00:33 GMT
#2075
On August 19 2016 08:57 Trfel wrote:
##I announce my candidacy for the Chancellor of Europe


Do you have any (updated) reads?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 19 2016 00:34 GMT
#2076
Kita, why do you think Artanis and MZ might be scum? Especially Artanis?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 19 2016 00:45 GMT
#2077
I have a funny feeling about Lunaticman after his last list post but I can't articulate it terribly well at the moment.
Something between blending in, IDK. Even the mechanics breakdowns (not that I considered it super towny) is falling off, but gah.

My biggest reservation about him is lack of original thought for the scumreads, that's probably the best way I can put it right now.

I'm off.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
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