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sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
August 26 2016 14:44 GMT
#4201
well both of your reads sucked and you both lynched all town. thats how we got to this point
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 26 2016 14:45 GMT
#4202
On August 26 2016 23:39 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2016 23:34 Half the Sky wrote:
On August 26 2016 23:31 kitaman27 wrote:
Lets just vote HTS and get this over with.


Nope, you completely trying to protect Rels too...zzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Killing me is your best chance of winning today.


it could also be argued you are trying to protect koshi...

So I really feel like we should just lynch one from each side and get a free kill with the other...

Why do you guys think the games going to end today if we dont kill two mafia? Theres no evidence of this. Mafia has shown very little kp in this game at most they should have 1.


I have the impression there are 2kp given that I was shot day 1, Vivax was shot day 1, I imagine they could have at least one now in addition to the lynch and it would be consequential/endgame likely if we mislynch. And we don't know what Koshi has.

Also I've presented three different mechanical theories for why Koshi isn't necessarily mafia. There were at least two other mafia before Koshi went insane. If you want to disagree with that that's fine.

You aren't looking into what Koshi is doing now either.

I honestly think Koshi's role was either sabotaged or whatever as a distraction, and my scumreads were eager to pile on him without looking for others.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 26 2016 14:47 GMT
#4203
Why HTS is mafia

1) Her scum reads this game are all on townies. She repeats multiple times that I'm mafia because of this, when there are several instances of her replying to my list posts saying that they are good.

2) She chose to shoot grack when she had 8 other players that she said was a better shot.

3) She refers to me as kitaman all the time, which matches the unclaimed banana giver.

4) She refuses to admit that QT #3 is the mafia qt. She comes up with a bunch of nonsense about it being 5 town qts or that Palmar is the banana giver to avoid the subject

5) She tried to get trfel lynched or shot on day two to waste a kp

6) She pushed incredibly hard to get koshi elected, who proceeded to shoot disfo. Now she continues to side with him, when he is clearly anti-town
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 26 2016 14:53 GMT
#4204
Kitaman

On August 17 2016 21:08 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2016 16:18 Trfel wrote:
Is anyone awake still?

Still trying to make sense of Onegu and Artanis... While Onegu's actions and specific claims seem very scummy, his play is marked by so much not caring, and Onegu tends to take his scum play relatively seriously. On the other hand, third party feels very likely.

I liked Artanis after skim reading, but then realized that he actually hasn't been doing anything.
It feels like he's just trying to seem active and present but he hasn't felt invested at all. In addition to being so secretive about (seemingly) taking control of Superbia's body...

I definitely support killing Onegu with the FOX News thing. Maybe Shapelog would also qualify as anti-American...


Trfel is someone that I know spins behaviour to be mafia when he is exclusively mafia.

(1) Artanis had not been hiding the DGAF attitude so he didn't care that he was getting scumread for it, which is actually a towny trait
(2) The so called bounty hunter role (or the action of controlling someone's body) is a mechanic that (knowing Palmar) could be assigned to either alignment
(3) Onegu will "not care" what others think as town or scum (the latter example: see Outlaw).

So I really don't like that post either.


This post I made well before the IKEA announcement.

On August 18 2016 07:59 ritoky wrote:
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Trfel continued making scummy posts. I didn't have perfect information. That was the basis for my read.

You on the other hand

On August 17 2016 11:13 kitaman27 wrote:
Haven't bothered with filter dives yet, but aside from maybe 1 afk straggler, the mafias are in here.

Onegu
prplhz
Artanis[Xp]
Lunaticman
Dandel Ion
Shapelog
GlowingBear
iamperfection
sicklucker
Meapak_Ziphh
Chezinu

I'll see if I can narrow this down a bit more and come up with a top 3 or something.


LEFT TRFEL OFF YOUR LIST.

This amongst other things suggests you are much more strongly connected to Trfel than me.

On August 17 2016 23:53 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2016 23:42 Half the Sky wrote:
This is where I am:

Not entirely sure/will need to be sussed out a bit more:
GlowingBear (some townie thought towards the end, though I am deliberately ignoring mechs here, some similar reads to mine)
Dandel Ion (meh)
Lunaticman (need to really see actual reads and not just surviving on mech discussion)
Grackaroni (originally was good but not remembering too many impactful posts from him more recently, falling under the radar?)
MZ (some of his reads I liked but more content would make me more confident on him)

The "dear vig, please take out the trash" pile:
Rels (pending catching up)
Stutters695
Kurumi
Shapelog
Fecalfeast

Possible scum
Trfel (it's somewhere in my filter)
sicklucker (where are the reads)
Chezinu (all he does is go on about his position, someone please shoot him, clearly he's not helping town even compared to Star Wars where you got some semblance he was trying to)

Scum reads
prplhz
Onegu (I make no distinction between anti-town third parties and scum)
IAP


I would move GB and Luna down to one of the lower tiers and suggest the vig's focus on the scum reads, while using investigative roles on the trash pile, but this is a solid list overall.


THAT post above is BEFORE Ikea announcement, and you want vigs to focus on the scumreads. Trfel is just above that category.

Then soon after IKEA announcement

On August 19 2016 06:39 kitaman27 wrote:
Here is where I'm at right now.

Really Town
Half the Sky
Koshi
Disformation
Tumblewood
kitaman27

Mostly Townie
Skynx
Damdred
Dandel Ion
Fecalfeast

No Clue
Kurumi
Stutters695
Trfel
Rels
sicklucker
Shapelog

Kinda scummy, but less so than group below
Artanis[Xp]
Lunaticman
Meapak_Ziphh

Probably Mafia
GlowingBear
iamperfection
prplhz
Chezinu


THEN OUT OF NOWHERE

On August 20 2016 08:20 kitaman27 wrote:
Sweet :D

I'd say GlowingBear, Trfel, iamperfection, and chezinu are the priorities.

We have a couple vig shots too right? I wonder if we can take out all of them.


It's just like magic folks.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 26 2016 14:53 GMT
#4205
Kitaman is highly correlated with Trfel. It's all in 4204.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 26 2016 14:54 GMT
#4206
4203 debunked by 4204. Nice.

The difference was that my read was organic. Yours was not.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 26 2016 14:54 GMT
#4207
And with that I'm going to take a break from here.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
August 26 2016 14:54 GMT
#4208
Im Arthas, the zombies are mine.
Failure is not an option
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 26 2016 14:55 GMT
#4209
The difference is that there is irrefutable evidence that I'm not part of QT #3 and you probably are.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
August 26 2016 14:59 GMT
#4210
how do you feel about this scenario kita?

Mafia see they are two/3 dead towns away from winning depending on their kp. They have koshi kill disinfo and push dandred. They have the game on auto with or without dandred being mafia. Koshi also makes everyone vt to not fuck with this plan. Koshi trolls and claims the games over and nothing matters.

Then they find out I have a shot and panic

I have another conflicting scenario but thats the world if they are scum I think
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
August 26 2016 15:02 GMT
#4211
On August 26 2016 19:21 Half the Sky wrote:
Sicklucker again please you shoot one of these people

Rels
Kitaman
Stutters

I prefer Kita but the other two fine too.


also she really really really wants me to shoot in these 3 people and only these 3 people. like really really wants it posts it multiple times
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 26 2016 15:03 GMT
#4212
If we assume 5-6 mafia at the start of the game, there are 4-5 mafia remaining. If the two survivor claims are actually survivors, that means mafia has 6-7 votes this cycle.

There are 13 players remaining:

Tumblewood
Rels
Lunaticman
Kurumi
kitaman27
Stutters695
Damdred
Fecalfeast
Koshi
iamperfection
sicklucker
Meapak_Ziphh
Half the Sky

If mafia/survivors has 7 members remaining, they control the vote with 7/13. If mafia/survivors has 6 members remaining, then a single town player messing up their vote means they win.

That is why it is so incredibly important that town takes a stand here.

Either vote me or vote HTS.

Throwing your vote away on a side wagon means we lose automatically.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 26 2016 15:04 GMT
#4213
And furthermore, if they can convince SL to shoot a townie, that essentially GUARANTEES A MAFIA WIN regardless of the lynch because of straight up numbers.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
August 26 2016 15:06 GMT
#4214
But there is also another conflicting scenario and I think this is just as likely if not more.

QT 3:
- "oh and I gave kitaman a banana. It's mostly up to his imagination what he does with it.

For posting that banana picture."

- "On second thought I am just going to babble some nonsense and go down with the ship."

Kita if mafia is giving you the banana why is it up for you to decide its power? Is it perhaps because you are mafia with them? gg?
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 26 2016 15:06 GMT
#4215
On August 26 2016 05:43 Kurumi wrote:
##vote Koshi


Kurumi, please please please don't throw your vote away here.

You gotta choose between HTS and myself. Any player that is voting elsewhere essentially throws away the game for free.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 26 2016 15:08 GMT
#4216
On August 27 2016 00:06 sicklucker wrote:
But there is also another conflicting scenario and I think this is just as likely if not more.

QT 3:
- "oh and I gave kitaman a banana. It's mostly up to his imagination what he does with it.

For posting that banana picture."

- "On second thought I am just going to babble some nonsense and go down with the ship."

Kita if mafia is giving you the banana why is it up for you to decide its power? Is it perhaps because you are mafia with them? gg?


Dandel who also received the banana confirmed that nothing happened.

Furthermore, if I'm in QT 3 it would be phrased as "oh and I gave you a banana kitaman. It's mostly up to your imagination what you do with it."
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
August 26 2016 15:08 GMT
#4217
Yes not voting for kita or hts is game throwing
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 26 2016 15:09 GMT
#4218
HTS also received the banana and confirmed that it doesn't do anything, so unless both HTS, dandel, and I are lying, that scenario can't work.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
August 26 2016 15:10 GMT
#4219
who do you think could have been the one posting going down with the ship? who do you think was in danger in that time of the game that could be mafia? Was it trefel? dont you think it would be the same person who posted the banana post?
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
August 26 2016 15:11 GMT
#4220
what was that thing about posting pictures of bananas leading to peoples deaths? was that nothing
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