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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 16 2016 15:59 GMT
#930
On August 17 2016 00:55 Superbia wrote:
I don't art is a bad man. But I'm not sure


Do you see anything towny in his filter? I don't.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
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Germany9029 Posts
August 16 2016 16:00 GMT
#932
(I am ignoring what he did mechanically, that could be either alignment.)
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Half the Sky
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Germany9029 Posts
August 16 2016 16:10 GMT
#942
After reading prplhz's thought process disagreeing with Koshi (the latter whom I get the impression has a deeper understanding of the mechs), I think prplhz could be town. I'll be a little more confident seeing more concrete reads. (page 33)

Artanis' scum read on prplhz seeing it again on page 34 looks even worse now especially with the wordy reasoning. It's about the damned mechanics.
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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 16 2016 16:12 GMT
#944
On August 17 2016 00:45 sicklucker wrote:
lul i voted chez


I don't like this.

If I had anti nuke I'd save Superbia.

sicklucker I know doesn't like day 1 as either alignment but is more recently lazy as scum. Hard to tell at this juncture from content alone but I'm not liking his vote for chez.
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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 16 2016 16:14 GMT
#947
Don't like Onegu's responses to Koshi's questions either but I'll wait to see what he responds to Superbia.
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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 16 2016 16:27 GMT
#952
at Kitaman's prior question to me:

I like these posts from HF.

+ Show Spoiler +

On August 16 2016 23:31 Holyflare wrote:
Why would we vote disfo? He seems to have a mini panic attack when he gets called out as mafia and his power might be just as he says. You should pick someone that's not him and see if his extra 2votes are hidden or not tp semi confirm.

Also he "doesn't know what happens" when he wins? Find that very hard to believe.


On August 16 2016 23:34 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2016 23:32 Superbia wrote:
Are you genuinely scumreading disfo or do you just want to be president over him?


His win condition competes with my bonus points which plausibly could make him town still. He gets a power when I don't, suspicious. He made some posts earlier that I called him scum for, can't remember what.

He hasn't done towny things other than reveal a lot of a role which might not even be his. I presume there's fake mafia claims etc.

Way better to see what his votes look like in a vote count then be butt fucked by your whim.


I disagree with his Artanis/prplhz read though. I interpreted "wordy" as different from what Holyflare described. I don't disagree that prplhz is solely talking about mechanics but I got the impression he's doing it in a way to move the game forward, even if he's not doing it optimally (quotes in spoiler)

+ Show Spoiler +
On August 16 2016 21:18 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2016 21:14 Superbia wrote:
Prplhz what are you getting at dude? I'm going to do stuff if I can. And if I can't do stuff then I won't. =/

I think I'm being pretty straight forward. If I were getting killed in 24 hours then I'd certainly just make stuff up.

Also, give me 1 ruble? I need it for........................ Something.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]



On August 16 2016 21:25 prplhz wrote:
I don't mind holding people responsible for their actions, but if this plan is stringently implemented, it's more likely to backfire than not.

We don't even need a plan. If someone nobody reads town oddly gets elected president and we ask him to kill someone everybody reads scum, but instead he kills the towniest guy around who then flips town, then what does it matter if we had a plan or not in the first place? We'll still need to react to what actually happened and ask ourselves if scum would trade 1 for 1 in that situation.

It's the same thing for whoever holds the gun to the president's head, if we have a plan saying "If he doesn't do what town says, we kill him", then if he is scum and the president is town he'll see it as a free pass. In the end, your actions are your own and only you can control them and you need to take responsibility yourself.


On August 16 2016 21:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I think prplhz is mafia.
He is wordy. Normally he isn't wordy. That is the extent of my read.


On August 16 2016 21:35 Holyflare wrote:
I like that prpl read, too wordy about irrelevant crap like plans instead of figuring out alignments and president vote



The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 16 2016 16:44 GMT
#958
I have to leave thread again this time for quite a bit. Where I stand now:

Town (no particular order)
Tumblewood
Vivax
kitaman27
Superbia
Koshi

Possibly town/would be comfortable with more reads:
Holyflare
prplhz

Town lean
Damdred (the opening/read on disformation)

Under review atm
Lunaticman
Skynx
disformation (several things I don't like but I'm seeing a few things in his filter that can be sussed out if he has to stick to mechanics for his wincon)

Null/no read on:
sicklucker (really could be either)
Stutters695
Dandel Ion
Rels (need to read his posts more closely relative to content, maybe he could have done more at the stage of the game)
Trfel (nothing since intro)

Chezinu (I can't read the guy for shit)
Chezinu

Policy lynch category (if we had lynches but you get the idea)
Kurumi
Fecalfeast
MZ
Shapelog

Scumlean
IAP

Probable scum
Artanis
Onegu
GlowingBear
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 16 2016 16:45 GMT
#959
On August 17 2016 01:38 disformation wrote:
onegu is nuking superbia
artanis stole superbias legs.
hf and me are fighting for us president.
some ppl probably have alignmenzs.


And what did you make of the first two's actions?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 16 2016 16:47 GMT
#963
On August 17 2016 01:40 sicklucker wrote:
no no one nuke artanis today plz


Why?

Whom would you nuke (if you had one)?

And should I assume you are partially caught up? At least?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 16 2016 16:52 GMT
#971
On August 17 2016 01:46 GlowingBear wrote:
WOWOWOWOW

Why am I being scumreas again?


On August 16 2016 21:59 Half the Sky wrote:
Possible scumreads through page 12:

GlowingBear - there's talk of mechanics, I'm looking for what he normally does as town, usually tries to fish for information and gets reads off the stuff he tries to bait through but so far no followup. will update as necessary.


...and I didn't see anything to change my mind after, there are others scumreading you (kita and vivax at least) but those are my words.

Damdred, sure. Though I'd be a little more comfortable seeing a few more reads, I do like what I am seeing of you so far (noting you had been a bit behind anyhow).

The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 16 2016 16:52 GMT
#972
On August 17 2016 01:48 Dandel Ion wrote:
iamp is town tho

78%


Based on?

(I never played with him before)
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 16 2016 16:55 GMT
#977
On August 17 2016 01:51 Grackaroni wrote:
I didn't make it on HtS's list because I'm secretly not in the game. Or am I? Only time will tell!


Actually you aren't listed in the OP. I took Palmar's roster and sorted the names, and checking again, you are not on it. PM him.

I had you as a town lean from the start of the game.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 17 2016 10:23 GMT
#1531
I am back and I am catching up.

Briefly skimmed the mod/important posts and I'm confused on a few of the mechanics, but I am hoping my questions are answered somewhere in the 20-odd pages I have to catch up on.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 17 2016 10:48 GMT
#1542
(page 53)

On August 17 2016 03:13 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2016 21:56 Half the Sky wrote:
iamperfection (post 184, page 10) why are you deducing that Tumblewood is anti-town third party at the beginning of the game? Where did that come from, based on what he posted?

Grackaroni and Vivax townleans for trying to dissect Tumble's alignment/reconciling with IAP (pages 10-11).

Not sure I like IAP's posting so far (after filtering him), but I'll make a more solid judgement when he posts more.

Still on page 12.



Why are you reading filter before reading all the thread?


Not sure what the point of this question even was Onegu, but IAP's posting was so bad from the off that I had to filter and see if it appeared to have gotten any better.

still reading...
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 17 2016 11:06 GMT
#1563
Still on page 56, sorry it's taking me a while here.

(1) Feels more confident town on Damdred.

+ Show Spoiler +
On August 17 2016 02:04 Damdred wrote:
Hts I think the most important thing to know is this.

Town circle
Damdred
Hts
Koshi
Kita
I am

Scum lean
Disf

Scum
Onegu

That's where I'm at atm.



(2) Skynx I have a townlean on (post 1080) but will continue on his filter...

(3) Don't understand how GB associates Vivax as scum with Grackaroni
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 17 2016 03:36 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2016 03:30 Vivax wrote:
On August 17 2016 02:00 Dandel Ion wrote:
On August 17 2016 01:56 Shapelog wrote:
On August 17 2016 01:50 Superbia wrote:
On August 17 2016 01:48 Shapelog wrote:
Best or worse b-day present?
48 pages of what is either actual content (boo) or spam (yay!)?

Anyways, give me a few mins. Did not expect the thread to be so big rofl. Also,
On August 17 2016 01:38 disformation wrote:
onegu is nuking superbia
artanis stole superbias legs.
hf and me are fighting for us president.
some ppl probably have alignmenzs.

Upon seeing this, either people think Superbia is scum, people are racist to superbia, or Onegu is trump and this is the world where trump wins the election.

Also i want to ran for pres. so hopefully there are more then US. because i do not want to deal with this Trumpic Us.


It's racism.

Oh, then screw superbias.
On August 17 2016 01:53 disformation wrote:
hts:
onegu is kim il of north korea and 3rd party. i say this like 5 times in my filter.
no clue wtf art is up to.

shape:
i am trump.

Ok,

If I fly to Europe and slowly take over the government, want to be bffs?

Also if anyone wants to inform me wtf is going on, I happy give my thoughts before I get enough time to actually go through his mess.

not happy enough to do it by yourself though


You haven't been pushed over nothing. You claimed there was nothing alignment indicative in the thread.

Which isn't true cause I TR Koshi for his first post and there was also some other stuff going on.

So if you think there is nothing alignment indicative, then you would debate people claiming that something is alignment indicative.

But instead you only talked about this election.


Koshi's first post about low postibg isn't alignment indicative. I don't have to WIFOM it just because you think it is.

What are the other things? You keep saying that there was information yet you fail to point that out.

If you accuse me of doing nothing with the information that was dropped in thread, but can't point out where is that information, it just means you're suspicious of me for no reason. Which is scummy. Which makes me believe what was your intention. Which makes me believe you don't want me to win the elections. Which I can't help to associate you with grackaroni.


...though when I read GB v Vivax, I'm getting the sense that GB is just approaching the game differently when I see his reads on Skynx and MZ on page 54/55

(4) Artanis' shortlist of (at the time) Onegu/SL/prplhz might make me feel a little better on him, I still have no idea what SL is doing and at least just skimming around the part where I joined in and I'm scumreading Onegu. prplhz read would make sense if he's not moving beyond mechanics.

(add on: saw his latest posts, warming up more to Artanis)
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 17 2016 11:08 GMT
#1567
also on the topic of afks, agreed, IIRC Palmar doesn't modkill afks, he prefers to let town police activity so we have to deal with that garbage ourselves.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 17 2016 11:08 GMT
#1569
On August 17 2016 20:07 disformation wrote:
I still highly suspect that you need to have some kinda of evidence that they are unpatriotic or at least anti-american.

I will look at the super lurky ppl and see what I can do. At the very least this hopefully will get us some information.

Will do that this evening when I am back at home.


How does anti-American = scum, or are you asking this for the purposes of your secondary objectives?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 17 2016 11:12 GMT
#1577
prplhz/disformation - oh, I see

(page 56-57)

Tumblewood and Skynx (and GlowingBear to a lesser extent), why is Kitaman mafia?

On August 17 2016 04:34 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2016 04:26 Skynx wrote:
On August 17 2016 04:12 Koshi wrote:
On August 17 2016 04:09 Skynx wrote:
On August 17 2016 04:07 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 17 2016 04:00 Skynx wrote:
On August 17 2016 03:57 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On August 16 2016 19:59 disformation wrote:
So you are saying there is a hidden mastermind taking advantage of two ppl firing nukes in thread and neither oneg nor art are nuking Superbia?

inb4 someone is kim sitting in north korea laughing his ass off.

also agreeing a lot with koshi.

This is a great post yo

How is that a great post?

If onegu is not the one nuking Super he should say right now lol...


I agree that meapak comment was off.
I also think you might be town

Man I was starting to get lonely, literally no one noticing me

I read your list post. You were lacking Vivax and HTS for town. Maybe also kita?
I think you could have at least a couple more townies tbh.

I put vivax in null, I forgot hts but he should be there in null aswell. He made some good posts but they didn't provide enough justification for being in town feels just yet. This was pretty much the case for Vivax, Damdy and few more aswell.

Kita is a bit more wierd, I have mafia feels on him but they are just feels I can't even explain.

Skynx is town for the last part. I am 90% confident in this.

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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 17 2016 11:14 GMT
#1580
Everyone (or Koshi/Artanis/Vivax) - Dandel Ion had a town read on Iamp - he's barely posted much of anything else. From what I remember when playing with him in SOTW 2 he hardly does shit as either alignment.

Put him in the trash pile this game too, no?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 17 2016 11:16 GMT
#1583
On August 17 2016 20:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2016 20:12 Half the Sky wrote:
prplhz/disformation - oh, I see

(page 56-57)

Tumblewood and Skynx (and GlowingBear to a lesser extent), why is Kitaman mafia?

On August 17 2016 04:34 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 17 2016 04:26 Skynx wrote:
On August 17 2016 04:12 Koshi wrote:
On August 17 2016 04:09 Skynx wrote:
On August 17 2016 04:07 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 17 2016 04:00 Skynx wrote:
On August 17 2016 03:57 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On August 16 2016 19:59 disformation wrote:
So you are saying there is a hidden mastermind taking advantage of two ppl firing nukes in thread and neither oneg nor art are nuking Superbia?

inb4 someone is kim sitting in north korea laughing his ass off.

also agreeing a lot with koshi.

This is a great post yo

How is that a great post?

If onegu is not the one nuking Super he should say right now lol...


I agree that meapak comment was off.
I also think you might be town

Man I was starting to get lonely, literally no one noticing me

I read your list post. You were lacking Vivax and HTS for town. Maybe also kita?
I think you could have at least a couple more townies tbh.

I put vivax in null, I forgot hts but he should be there in null aswell. He made some good posts but they didn't provide enough justification for being in town feels just yet. This was pretty much the case for Vivax, Damdy and few more aswell.

Kita is a bit more wierd, I have mafia feels on him but they are just feels I can't even explain.

Skynx is town for the last part. I am 90% confident in this.


The only one indicating a scumread on Kita here is Skynx, and he even said in the post he can't explain it. What exactly are you asking for here?


TW is townreading Skynx for that read (so it's implied he thinks Kita is mafia) and GB IIRC had Kita as possible mafia in an earlier reads post unless that's changed somewhere and I missed it.

Because I have Kita as a townread that's why I'm asking, if Skynx can't explain it, whatever, but when I see three people (at least two of which are my townreads) scumreading another townread it makes me wonder whether I might be missing something.
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