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On August 27 2016 00:46 sicklucker wrote:
well luna just said you gave him a banana and can give bananas? we need that qt or a more active luna
He said I HAVE bananas that I received from others/Palmar. I could give the banana just like people could pass their bananas thye got from wherever but I don't have the banana bunch or am the banna giver.
If the QT is allowed to be posted, I'm all for it.
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I am immune to projectile attacks. I made that claim before.
So I made the assumption that I could use bananas (as projectiles) to kill people. If that's what he means by that.
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On August 27 2016 00:50 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2016 00:49 Half the Sky wrote:On August 27 2016 00:46 sicklucker wrote:
well luna just said you gave him a banana and can give bananas? we need that qt or a more active luna He said I HAVE bananas that I received from others/Palmar. I could give the banana just like people could pass their bananas thye got from wherever but I don't have the banana bunch or am the banna giver. If the QT is allowed to be posted, I'm all for it. so then shouldnt you have a strong opinion of what qt from day 1 was mafia? theres only two choices and one is about bananas. do you think mafia or town gave you bananas? because that kind of finds you a mafia
You don't know that either way. It is WIFOM. You don't know if town could give it to a town to shoot you don't know if mafia could give it to shoot. You don't know either way.
I said before I deliberately ignore mechanics it themed games. It is too much and it is also why town lost Aperture 4. No one did scumhunting (well enough) that game.
I leartn my lesson there.
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Anyways I have a lot of stuff on my plate now.
I have nothing to be afraid of.
sicklucker, the reason I'm hammering the same three people are because that is how convinced I am based on my reads.
I believe in what I'm saying. Not because I'm desperate. The more filter diving I am doing, the more convinced I'm right, and the way Kitaman keeps hammering mechanics for reasons that don't make me mafia make me more convinced he is.
Kitaman also forcing the lynch between two of us ensures Damdred gets out scot free if he is able to convince you guys to lynch me based off mechanics (and quite frankly with people not playing let alone reading filters, it's a great play for him.)
I did the filter analysis, I made the connections. If someone wants to read me mafia for my filter analysis, I want to hear that.
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Mechanics are just part of the argument. Once you kept pushing that I backed off and tried to read it and even after I did, I still completely missed the banana giver connection for QT 3.
The problem is how Kita was spinning it......and disregarding everything else especially this cycle.
You have to take everything into account.
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I'm back.
On August 27 2016 05:05 kitaman27 wrote:
But first....HTS who has been calling me her number 1 priority all day hasn't even voted me.
lol
And no but it doesn't mean I won't. As far as I'm concerned the lynch is between you and Rels. And town need to consolidate between you and Rels.
Also earlier I said I had to leave when I had to leave. Keep spinning.
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On August 27 2016 04:55 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2016 04:51 sicklucker wrote:
kita do you not see any worlds where you are both town? Ehh it's possible I guess, but it seems really, really unlikely to me. Like she called me "kitaman" 32 different times in the thread this game. The banana giver called me "kitaman". That's totally her.
It's not. And I said first thing I had nothing to do with any of the QTs. I deliberately ignored it and even on the first read, I got nothing from those discussions. Find something better.
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On August 27 2016 05:13 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2016 05:12 Half the Sky wrote:I'm back. On August 27 2016 05:05 kitaman27 wrote:
But first....HTS who has been calling me her number 1 priority all day hasn't even voted me.
lol And no but it doesn't mean I won't. As far as I'm concerned the lynch is between you and Rels. And town need to consolidate between you and Rels. Oh rels now? Afraid to take the 1:1 trade with me? lol
"Now"
I've also been pushing him for his role issues and listed all three of you (w/Stutters) on a mafia list. Please. I'm just trying to find the entire team and you are also taking attention from Rels' scummy play by solely focusing on mechanics that you are twisting to fuel your argument.
Please Kitaman.
And we're likely in the equivalent of lylo so framing me with the 1/1 trades don't apply. Mafia motivation to get rid of me is you get rid of your biggest threat without having to waste a shot or if you don't have the extra kp (who knows at this point).
Additionally you take the focus off Rels who's scum, and Damdred who effectively claimed scum, although Koshi (and I agreed) you are disposing of him quick in favour/to preserve someone else who has kp.
Try again.
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On August 27 2016 05:20 sicklucker wrote:
maybe next time read them and dont ignore the only town trying hts. I asked who had the bananas for like 4 days and no one answered untill kita
When did you ask? I claimed what I had day 2 or day 3 whenever I got the first one. I have to go back to my filter but I also remember Kita laughing when I claimed too.
You also made a comment about who held the door as well - I held the door literally after Artanis typed it but take it as you will.
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On August 27 2016 05:20 sicklucker wrote:
maybe next time read them and dont ignore the only town trying hts. I asked who had the bananas for like 4 days and no one answered untill kita
I am trying, but the issue we are scumhunting in entirely different ways. And you've said many times you aren't reading filters.
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On August 27 2016 05:22 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2016 05:21 Half the Sky wrote:On August 27 2016 05:20 sicklucker wrote:
maybe next time read them and dont ignore the only town trying hts. I asked who had the bananas for like 4 days and no one answered untill kita When did you ask? I claimed what I had day 2 or day 3 whenever I got the first one. I have to go back to my filter but I also remember Kita laughing when I claimed too. You also made a comment about who held the door as well - I held the door literally after Artanis typed it but take it as you will. like a few times... today was not the first time i brought up the qt stuff but everyone ignored me untill the guy you think is mafia
Because he used the QT stuff to try and push my lynch. And he's distorting facts and disrupting town agenda in doing so. How can I ignore it then?
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On August 27 2016 05:22 sicklucker wrote:;o how is that helpful you dink
I think I know what is happening here, but I want to see if anyone else can figure it out.
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On August 27 2016 05:25 Rels wrote:
I agree with SL. This QT makes HTS 100% town. I don't really follow kita's other argument but unless it literally prove HTS is scum I don't think it can convince me.
So what does Kita's push say about his alignment and why?
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On August 27 2016 04:34 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2016 04:20 sicklucker wrote:
my theory is you choose to kill people with that banana picture somehow? or use it yo a mafia advantage is there any evidence of this? Furthermore, we KNOW Hts has that power. She shot grack.......over the 8 other people she was calling mafia.
And I explained why......zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Claimed the shot first thing and explained why I limited myself to the people who had bananas and picked the scummiest in that group. And if Grack had been any more town, I'd have held the shot.
Really simple and you are turning that into something convoluted.
Going to go back to my post as to why the Kitaman/Trfel association ties them together.
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My team is Kita/Rels/Stutters/Damdred.
Scum are going for preserving Kita/Rels/Stutters. I don't know which one of them has the extra kp but we have to lynch one of them instead of Damdred, so I'll switch to Kitaman.
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This is the main thing typing Kita to Trfel, post 4204
(edited spoilers for better readability)
Let's start with my original read on Trfel
+ Show Spoiler [My original read on Trfel] +On August 17 2016 21:08 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2016 16:18 Trfel wrote:Is anyone awake still?  Still trying to make sense of Onegu and Artanis... While Onegu's actions and specific claims seem very scummy, his play is marked by so much not caring, and Onegu tends to take his scum play relatively seriously. On the other hand, third party feels very likely.
I liked Artanis after skim reading, but then realized that he actually hasn't been doing anything. It feels like he's just trying to seem active and present but he hasn't felt invested at all. In addition to being so secretive about (seemingly) taking control of Superbia's body... I definitely support killing Onegu with the FOX News thing. Maybe Shapelog would also qualify as anti-American... Trfel is someone that I know spins behaviour to be mafia when he is exclusively mafia. (1) Artanis had not been hiding the DGAF attitude so he didn't care that he was getting scumread for it, which is actually a towny trait (2) The so called bounty hunter role (or the action of controlling someone's body) is a mechanic that (knowing Palmar) could be assigned to either alignment (3) Onegu will "not care" what others think as town or scum (the latter example: see Outlaw). So I really don't like that post either.
This post I made well before the IKEA announcement.
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Originally, I stated that Trfel continued making scummy posts, and in the case of TW/SL he kept scumreading them for things that didn't necessarily make them mafia. I didn't have perfect information. That was the basis for my read.
Kita on the other hand leaves Trfel off his original list.
+ Show Spoiler +On August 17 2016 11:13 kitaman27 wrote:
Haven't bothered with filter dives yet, but aside from maybe 1 afk straggler, the mafias are in here.
Onegu
prplhz
Artanis[Xp]
Lunaticman
Dandel Ion
Shapelog
GlowingBear
iamperfection
sicklucker
Meapak_Ziphh
Chezinu
I'll see if I can narrow this down a bit more and come up with a top 3 or something.
This amongst other things suggests you are much more strongly connected to Trfel than me. We proceed to what you are suggesting for vigshots.
+ Show Spoiler +On August 17 2016 23:53 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2016 23:42 Half the Sky wrote:
This is where I am:
Not entirely sure/will need to be sussed out a bit more:
GlowingBear (some townie thought towards the end, though I am deliberately ignoring mechs here, some similar reads to mine)
Dandel Ion (meh)
Lunaticman (need to really see actual reads and not just surviving on mech discussion)
Grackaroni (originally was good but not remembering too many impactful posts from him more recently, falling under the radar?)
MZ (some of his reads I liked but more content would make me more confident on him)
The "dear vig, please take out the trash" pile:
Rels (pending catching up)
Stutters695
Kurumi
Shapelog
Fecalfeast
Possible scum
Trfel (it's somewhere in my filter)
sicklucker (where are the reads)
Chezinu (all he does is go on about his position, someone please shoot him, clearly he's not helping town even compared to Star Wars where you got some semblance he was trying to)
Scum reads
prplhz
Onegu (I make no distinction between anti-town third parties and scum)
IAP I would move GB and Luna down to one of the lower tiers and suggest the vig's focus on the scum reads, while using investigative roles on the trash pile, but this is a solid list overall.
THAT post above is BEFORE Ikea announcement, and you want vigs to focus on the scumreads. Trfel is just above that category.
Then soon after IKEA announcement
+ Show Spoiler +On August 19 2016 06:39 kitaman27 wrote:
Here is where I'm at right now.
Really Town
Half the Sky
Koshi
Disformation
Tumblewood
kitaman27
Mostly Townie
Skynx
Damdred
Dandel Ion
Fecalfeast
No Clue
Kurumi
Stutters695
Trfel
Rels
sicklucker
Shapelog
Kinda scummy, but less so than group below
Artanis[Xp]
Lunaticman
Meapak_Ziphh
Probably Mafia
GlowingBear
iamperfection
prplhz
Chezinu
THEN OUT OF NOWHERE - namely towards the end
+ Show Spoiler +On August 20 2016 08:20 kitaman27 wrote:
Sweet :D
I'd say GlowingBear, Trfel, iamperfection, and chezinu are the priorities.
We have a couple vig shots too right? I wonder if we can take out all of them. It's just like magic folks.
That is where he's suggesting where to sink kp. It comes from nowhere and when I read pages 3-5 of Kita's filter there is zero mention of Trfel, let alone zero direct mention of Trfel (except where quoted in list posts).
The two players have ignored each other and Trfel has flipped mafia. Kitaman in particular had ignored Trfel.
That is why they are both mafia.
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On August 27 2016 05:44 Stutters695 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2016 05:39 Half the Sky wrote:
My team is Kita/Rels/Stutters/Damdred.
Scum are going for preserving Kita/Rels/Stutters. I don't know which one of them has the extra kp but we have to lynch one of them instead of Damdred, so I'll switch to Kitaman. No, we lynch Damdred for the assured kill. Not to mention I have 0 faith in your associations because you're wrong about me.
I agree about Damdred being mafia. There's no question about that. But you also noticed (or should have noticed) how quick everyone (who was active and in thread) was to vote him down.
Koshi had come up with the theory that there is an ulterior motive for the bus and sicklucker had claimed kp, and I was also bothered by the lack of scumhunting going on. Damdred and Trfel arent' the only mafia and we're in a lylo type situation. People are not looking back and I was really concerned about that.
And if I'm wrong about you, why haven't you made reads on anyone else? Why does it seem like you only pop in when you're mentioned?
Do you have reads on anyone else? You have ignored most of the game to be quite honest.
You also drew attention to some extent because Damdred mentioned he got a red check on you IIRC.
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On August 27 2016 05:58 Tumblewood wrote:
with the leaps of faith you're willing to make you can draw the conclusion for anyone to be scum
Do you understand why I'm making this distinction?
If neither of us are mafia, then who is?
For example, what do you think of sicklucker, whom you suspected earlier?
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On August 27 2016 06:00 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2016 05:48 Tumblewood wrote:
I think both kita and Hts are town, and very tunneled on each other. na.... kitas def mafia trust me I was interacting with them all day. I will shoot kita if hes not lynched. its better we target guys with potential kp
Shoot Kita, as it looks like Damdred is getting lynched at the moment.
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