Super relevant question: Does your phone actually fly in airplane mode? Mine just falls like a brick, though it depends a bit on how much i accelerate it.
also: /in
disclaimer: since i has a job now i'll have way less time to play than b4. so this is partially an experiment to see how well i csn play now. expect some rsndom phone posts during most og the day (depending on how busy work is) and walls in the evening. might br to lazy for walls actually. lets see what happens. should be able to catch the deadlines.
aight. in hindsight also makes a lot of sense to not be like "kay lets start in 3 hours". really need to go to bed, my brains are flowing out of my ears.
So how's everyone doing at this fine <insert local time of day here>? @Tumble: have we played in a game together before? I think I obs-warriored a few games you were in, but not sure if we played together yet.
On August 07 2016 06:58 disformation wrote: So how's everyone doing at this fine <insert local time of day here>? @Tumble: have we played in a game together before? I think I obs-warriored a few games you were in, but not sure if we played together yet.
no
hm. thought so. Lots of ppl I haven't played with before in this actually. I am also noticing quite a bit of brevity on your part. I do hope your <insert local time of day here> is okay. Or are you unhappy with which fate RNGesus provided you?
On August 07 2016 07:55 disformation wrote: Wait damdy, just to clarify:
On August 07 2016 07:39 Damdred wrote: Disformation most likely scrum in thread, grac is second and html is final scrum.
A strong Scum team,but easily solved.
Now I am well just working hard on the yard and waiting on interesting things in thread.
This was like 3mins after Gracks first post:
On August 07 2016 07:36 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 07 2016 06:54 Tumblewood wrote: confirmed town Grackaroni
probably town Grackaroni
null Not Grackaroni
I think this game I'm just going to edit everybody's quotes to match my own understanding of their message. Great post Tumbles!
You later TR Grack for this post. Did you just miss the post and throw him into the scum list for the lulz like HF?
I read it and generally thought hi tone was downy then and just wanted to have fun before getting serious. Ever since I've seen him lately I always have a high regard if him.
Eh... first sentence seems a bit confusing to me. So you paired a legit scum lean with two jokes? One of which you thought was town? Well at least got the thread started a bit... Rest makes sense.
Well, 60/13 is 4.615. Would work better with 12 players, bringing that to a nice round 5. We would all have to agree on who to exclude though. Aaalso this method theoretically leaves room for the hosts to manipulate the outcome by timing their posts. So inb4 ppl call collusion, if we use this method. xD
Hmm... Tumbles way of engaging ppl and not being afraid of going against them makes me think he is town here. Will look luna (and hfs case on him) laters.
On August 08 2016 03:26 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: <a href="/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=25925102" class="submessage" title="August 07 2016 14:17 EDT"><span class="post_date">1 minute ago</span> <span class="post_time"><!--post time needed here--></span></a> So our number is 17.
On August 08 2016 05:20 Damdred wrote: I honestly kind of felt like i would love this game with the player list but i'm kind of depressed every time i enter into it, which is kinda meh hf won't even talk to me so far :'(.
In any sense you still can't read me Sl and no idea why not (this case just me not posting much to go on).
Isn't sad Damdred town Damdred, according to Art's flowchart?
On August 08 2016 05:34 disformation wrote: What do you think of HF's points on Luna? The points HF makes are decent and Luna's filter is meh.
In the same vein: @ tumble: can you try another approach of explaining why you don't like HF's scum read on Luna? Cause I am not really seeing it.
Going to look at Lunas town game. After that prolly going to look into kush and grack.
To clarify the question @ tumble: you are basically telling HF to read between the lines. Can you spell out for what you are seeing there, I am bad at reading between lines.
Otherwise I did a short look at Lunas town filter from 72h and it is somewhat offtopi,c but reads and feels more carefree than what he has done this game so far. So tonally there is a difference to this game imo.
On August 08 2016 05:34 disformation wrote: What do you think of HF's points on Luna? The points HF makes are decent and Luna's filter is meh.
In the same vein: @ tumble: can you try another approach of explaining why you don't like HF's scum read on Luna? Cause I am not really seeing it.
Going to look at Lunas town game. After that prolly going to look into kush and grack.
HF didn't critically evaluate it, in the sense that he saw something and plugged it into a mental checklist of things scum do without thinking, "huh, maybe he's town and just acting weird" as if he's never played with scrub town before. just very much 'see the forest for the trees'
Ah. So you are basically saying "this post post isn't great, but could very well be a newish town player post" whereas you think HF is going "not a very good post, 100% scum". Dunno I like luna's filter from 72h more. *scratches head*
On August 08 2016 05:47 Tumblewood wrote: oh and now I bet you're gonna ask for the explanation a) likes the way vivax thinks (lmao) b) echoing vivax but as if he's having a conversation with him and pointing to the rest of the thread and saying, "I know, right?" like, town tends to talk one-on-one with people only when they're arguing and it's unnatural to make that post.
Eh, I am not really getting it. Might be a language barrier thing? Dunno.
Also after reading the exchange between Grack and Kush again, there is def. something off, but I think kush looks slightly worse. Grack did have some posts between his opener (which I liked) and before the exchange that where meh. On the other hand I read kush wrong quite often...
Can you ppl explain what made you dislike Grack in that exchange?
On August 08 2016 05:47 Tumblewood wrote: oh and now I bet you're gonna ask for the explanation a) likes the way vivax thinks (lmao) b) echoing vivax but as if he's having a conversation with him and pointing to the rest of the thread and saying, "I know, right?" like, town tends to talk one-on-one with people only when they're arguing and it's unnatural to make that post.
Eh, I am not really getting it. Might be a language barrier thing? Dunno.
Also after reading the exchange between Grack and Kush again, there is def. something off, but I think kush looks slightly worse. Grack did have some posts between his opener (which I liked) and before the exchange that where meh. On the other hand I read kush wrong quite often...
Can you ppl explain what made you dislike Grack in that exchange?
basically town doesn't tell people, "hey, just wanted to let you know I agree with your post"
Wasn't it more like a "hey nice idea, but because of x it isn't actually very valid." Mh... well yeah that actually doesn't tell us what Grack thinks of Vivax at all. xD
On August 08 2016 05:34 disformation wrote: What do you think of HF's points on Luna? The points HF makes are decent and Luna's filter is meh.
In the same vein: @ tumble: can you try another approach of explaining why you don't like HF's scum read on Luna? Cause I am not really seeing it.
Going to look at Lunas town game. After that prolly going to look into kush and grack.
As for HF points on Luna, they exist. Are they something thats strong enough to lynch at this exact moment not really.
But currently I am having a horrible time differentiating people from null/scum/town. Its all a huge mess.
Hm. Agree.
TW and you are town. There is something off in the Grack vs kush thing. I like Grack a bit more than kush. Slight townlean on GB for the way he is pushing me, maybe? Slight scumlrean on Luna.
Huge pile of null / players who haven't done much as so far. Also it seems like nearly all players have this problem, which might be a bit problematic considering this is a majority lynch game. Also getting late here. Should be able to get a few (phone) posts of at work and then go filter diving in the evening.
On August 08 2016 06:37 Damdred wrote: Considering Sl is advocating it and gave a reply to me in earnest, and kush did it and is voting for the person it landed on supposidly i haven't checked the math.
Grac is also heavily in favor of it. Have you actualy read the thread mderg?
I still don't think they're taking the rng lynch seriously.
No I was absolutely taking the rng lynch seriously. I'm a big fan. i think Kush is too even though he said that it was terrible and that he would only do it for the lulz.
shouldnt you be voting me then? really disliking this. will rethink tomorrow.
On August 08 2016 06:37 Damdred wrote: Considering Sl is advocating it and gave a reply to me in earnest, and kush did it and is voting for the person it landed on supposidly i haven't checked the math.
Grac is also heavily in favor of it. Have you actualy read the thread mderg?
I still don't think they're taking the rng lynch seriously.
No I was absolutely taking the rng lynch seriously. I'm a big fan. i think Kush is too even though he said that it was terrible and that he would only do it for the lulz.
shouldnt you be voting me then? really disliking this. will rethink tomorrow.
I'm not sure if you're being serious about this or not because my confidence in interpreting things like that has been shattered.
Well. If he is taking the rng lynch serious and is a great fan of it, shouldnt he follow rngesus and try to make it happen? which you know would make sense from his petspective. so i am not sure what hecis up to here. and i want to reread the kush vs grack thing again ehile keepingvin mind that both really are forcthat rng thing.
On August 08 2016 06:37 Damdred wrote: Considering Sl is advocating it and gave a reply to me in earnest, and kush did it and is voting for the person it landed on supposidly i haven't checked the math.
Grac is also heavily in favor of it. Have you actualy read the thread mderg?
I still don't think they're taking the rng lynch seriously.
No I was absolutely taking the rng lynch seriously. I'm a big fan. i think Kush is too even though he said that it was terrible and that he would only do it for the lulz.
shouldnt you be voting me then? really disliking this. will rethink tomorrow.
No because I want to lynch Kush. Or at the very least I want to see what HolyFlare says about Kush. If I don't think there's a really good case tomorrow my vote will be on you.
eh? "i want to lynch kush, but i might sheep whatever case i deem good, or just go for the rng lynch otherwise"
all them options kept open. that post/attitude seems pretty scummy to me... well really need to get some sleep. let me look at that again in the morning..
On August 08 2016 06:37 Damdred wrote: Considering Sl is advocating it and gave a reply to me in earnest, and kush did it and is voting for the person it landed on supposidly i haven't checked the math.
Grac is also heavily in favor of it. Have you actualy read the thread mderg?
I still don't think they're taking the rng lynch seriously.
No I was absolutely taking the rng lynch seriously. I'm a big fan. i think Kush is too even though he said that it was terrible and that he would only do it for the lulz.
shouldnt you be voting me then? really disliking this. will rethink tomorrow.
No because I want to lynch Kush. Or at the very least I want to see what HolyFlare says about Kush. If I don't think there's a really good case tomorrow my vote will be on you.
eh? "i want to lynch kush, but i might sheep whatever case i deem good, or just go for the rng lynch otherwise"
all them options kept open. that post/attitude seems pretty scummy to me... well really need to get some sleep. let me look at that again in the morning..
Or, "I'm town. I would like to lynch Kush because I think he's scum. If I don't see a lynch I like at the end of the day, I'm going to vote for the random lynch." It's only scummy when you apply your own narrative to the post.
Eh. Still not really digging the attitude. Still heaviliy implies that you neither really care about lynching kush and are super open to join whatever ozher lynch or just go for the rng lynch, which removes sll responsibility from you.
So. Not entirely sire if i am conf. biasing here, but i think grack does neither care about solving the game nor who hets lynched today.
voting kush (his #1 scum read) over me, despite beimg a fan of thecrng lynch, is fine. but i disliked him keeping his options wide open. by saying he might litterally join any wagon or move to the rng lynch after all. when i poke him about that he moves his vote to the rng lynch, now voting together with his #1 scum read... for me all this mess doesnt make much sense from a town perspective.
opinions on that are appreciated, but i think a vote on grack is a good vote.
On August 08 2016 06:37 Damdred wrote: Considering Sl is advocating it and gave a reply to me in earnest, and kush did it and is voting for the person it landed on supposidly i haven't checked the math.
Grac is also heavily in favor of it. Have you actualy read the thread mderg?
I still don't think they're taking the rng lynch seriously.
No I was absolutely taking the rng lynch seriously. I'm a big fan. i think Kush is too even though he said that it was terrible and that he would only do it for the lulz.
shouldnt you be voting me then? really disliking this. will rethink tomorrow.
No because I want to lynch Kush. Or at the very least I want to see what HolyFlare says about Kush. If I don't think there's a really good case tomorrow my vote will be on you.
eh? "i want to lynch kush, but i might sheep whatever case i deem good, or just go for the rng lynch otherwise"
all them options kept open. that post/attitude seems pretty scummy to me... well really need to get some sleep. let me look at that again in the morning..
pretty much how he played scum last game...
good point i should look at his filter from 72h, too.
imo both luna and grack have a pretty high chance of flipping scum at this point.
Well, I really don't like luna just gtfo'ing and voting on the rng train without a single mention of that, or me for that matter, in thread. On the other hand I don't like grack at all either.
Could it be as easy as Grack/Luna/x? Kinda inclinded to think so atm. Anyway, since there are only about 11h left until lunch time and we need a majority of 7 to actually lynch someone (no lynch would super suck here) I'll move back to grack.
Still need to check out grack's filter from 72h, when I get home though.
On August 08 2016 19:53 Lunaticman wrote: Meh no one was posting the 6 hours I was online, I dont really have time to fo a full scale analysis atm and its day one. All I know is that I will never not vote because that is only giving power to the mafia.
On August 08 2016 19:53 Lunaticman wrote: Meh no one was posting the 6 hours I was online, I dont really have time to fo a full scale analysis atm and its day one. All I know is that I will never not vote because that is only giving power to the mafia.
On August 08 2016 20:26 Shapelog wrote: Alright, 100% sure that what ever is holy in this universe just loves to screw me over with storms.
Anyways, I got a hour or two rn, and later I will have more later in the day (7 oclock here).
No matter what though, I forgot this is majority. We need to consistence sometime in the next 5 hours or so, so that we don't end up like we did in Onegu part 1's lynch.
Yes, I quite agree. Unfortunately I have no clue who you gonna vote for. Not even your if your scumreads on damdy and kush are jokes or not. What do you think of the points on Grack? What do you think of the points on Luna? Shape's first long post: + Show Spoiler +
On August 08 2016 20:58 Shapelog wrote: Page 10 Thoughts
On August 08 2016 02:38 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: Guys honestly I've been getting mislynched a lot lately so that's making me worried about getting mislynched which is making me look scummy. Kind of like when you get soft once then next time you can't stop thinking about all the pressure so you get soft again.
Then your girlfriends like damn u need to see a doctor. But only you understand that it's not that at all.
Panicy Kush is Panicy
Also, on this site, you haven't got ML expect in 72 hours. Brav. ended early, and you were Mason in part 1. And besides, we are scum remember? It is a Lynch!
On August 08 2016 02:38 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: Guys honestly I've been getting mislynched a lot lately so that's making me worried about getting mislynched which is making me look scummy. Kind of like when you get soft once then next time you can't stop thinking about all the pressure so you get soft again.
Then your girlfriends like damn u need to see a doctor. But only you understand that it's not that at all.
This is incredibly scummy. This guy spends the last 20 games as town not giving a shit whether he gets mislynched. This game he gets questioned on some simple point and responds with what could only be described as verbal diarrhea. I'm not buying it.
On August 07 2016 13:07 Damdred wrote: Honestly was just busy tonight but I'm here for a bit.
I can live with a disf pressure today see where it goes but we will see.
GB could potentially be my friend.
I'M YOUR FRAND!
Trust me, disformation is mafia.
ooh what about GB pushing disfo mislynch meh probably not
How's it a mislynch again?
I think you skipped this tumble GB might want an answer.
As for the RNG Lynch really shouldn't, while d1 lynches are more miss than hit the gathered informTion is more valuable than something people don't have to really take a stand on. Probably not scummy for sl though the other two hrmmm maybe.
oh yeah in case you were wondering GB, it wasn't a mislynch but more so suspicion. pretty bad read though and I do not stand by it.
From what I make out of this post, No longer believes in the read he had on Dis. And he finds his reasoning bad, which was this:
On August 07 2016 10:54 Tumblewood wrote: disfo trying to read into Damdred's joke is a red flag to me. doesn't read as tryhard and I know he is a decent player. I am still on the lookout for an action from him that makes it town though.
And lets assume Tumble's ML comment was indeed meant, I have sus. but not enough to be sure. So this means two things:
First, Tumble doesn't find the tonal thing at the beginning of the game scummy any more. Meaning if he flip flops in the next few pages, or what not, I and you (the reader, including you tumble) should be sus. I would say, he should also be against the tonal reads on Dis now, but it is Day 1 (and that post was early in Day 1 as well), and he never stated he had a Town read on dis.
Second, and this is only if Dis does flip scum, Tumble could be more scummy, due to him backing away from the notation Dis was scum around the time Kush looked sus. A course, Kush needs to be town in this case as well, unless mafia is the three of them, and they are just doing me and busing the shit out of each other.
From what I now make out of his post, I realized that the sus. he is talking about is about GB, and not dis. and that he didn't change the read on dis, but on GB. Would like to know the bad read though.
On August 08 2016 03:11 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On August 08 2016 03:08 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 08 2016 03:01 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On August 08 2016 02:55 Grackaroni wrote: I don't know what to say if you're town Kush. This has been the single worst response to a question I have ever seen in all of mafia.
Wasn't your case that I care therefore I am mafia? So How was my response anything but true?
No I write that a lot and it seems to fail as often as it hits. My case here is that you are acting uncharacteristically squirmy and you already recognized that your behavior had been scummy. You tried to explain away your actions by saying that you are especially concerned about being mislynched this game and that is why you are being scummy. I think you being scum is a lot more likely than this being true.
And I'm saying my "squirminess" was merely me trolling you.
On August 08 2016 03:12 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On August 08 2016 03:11 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 08 2016 03:11 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On August 08 2016 03:08 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 08 2016 03:01 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On August 08 2016 02:55 Grackaroni wrote: I don't know what to say if you're town Kush. This has been the single worst response to a question I have ever seen in all of mafia.
Wasn't your case that I care therefore I am mafia? So How was my response anything but true?
No I write that a lot and it seems to fail as often as it hits. My case here is that you are acting uncharacteristically squirmy and you already recognized that your behavior had been scummy. You tried to explain away your actions by saying that you are especially concerned about being mislynched this game and that is why you are being scummy. I think you being scum is a lot more likely than this being true.
And I'm saying my "squirminess" was merely me trolling you.
Good one. You got me. Vote stands.
How about if I said I was being too scummy to be scum.
No no no! You suck at being scum! ... Maybe I really do have to check the mafia QT and coach you on BS excuses to why you are not scum. FFS.
On August 08 2016 03:26 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: <a href="/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=25925102" class="submessage" title="August 07 2016 14:17 EDT"><span class="post_date">1 minute ago</span> <span class="post_time"><!--post time needed here--></span></a> So our number is 17.
On August 08 2016 04:46 Vivax wrote: Did a quick ctrl-f of my name, no results so far.
Is the theory that only scum would try to deflect attention to me being afk for 1 half of D1 a shit theory or a good theory? With the caveat that they'd have to be under pressure to do so, so is it safe to assume no scum so far was under pressure? Or only scum that doesn't know my meta?
What the fuck are you talking about?
Narcissistic Narcissist!
But really, this was just randomly thrown out there.
On August 08 2016 05:20 Damdred wrote: I honestly kind of felt like i would love this game with the player list but i'm kind of depressed every time i enter into it, which is kinda meh hf won't even talk to me so far :'(.
In any sense you still can't read me Sl and no idea why not (this case just me not posting much to go on).
Damdred 100% sad because he is in a team with me and kush.
Also, I know sadness/Emo Damdred = town, but fuck cell mafia. Then again, I did caught you in cell, but not anywhere else so....
At least he is no friend of RNGesus. Cause friends of RNGesus are apparently no friends of mine. Also agree with/like the point on SL. (Read: SL is a TR) Anyone got meta on Shape?
Mh. Getting the feeling that grack is trying to buddy up to me, by TRing me very hard. Kinda working TBH. xD Really need to look at his 72h filter...
Luna is my other scum read, or rather, since I like Grack a tiny bit more now, my #1 scum read, so willing to vote him np like.
Don't remember much of mderg, probably a bad sign. Need to look at this filter. In a similar vein: did anyone play with stutters before? Cause he has like 2 posts and 0 content so far... He also hasn't voted yet and I have 0 clue who he might vote for, which is another thing I am not very fond of.
On August 08 2016 22:23 disformation wrote: SHAPE! I command you to be easier to read!
On August 08 2016 20:26 Shapelog wrote: Alright, 100% sure that what ever is holy in this universe just loves to screw me over with storms.
Anyways, I got a hour or two rn, and later I will have more later in the day (7 oclock here).
No matter what though, I forgot this is majority. We need to consistence sometime in the next 5 hours or so, so that we don't end up like we did in Onegu part 1's lynch.
Yes, I quite agree. Unfortunately I have no clue who you gonna vote for. Not even your if your scumreads on damdy and kush are jokes or not. What do you think of the points on Grack? What do you think of the points on Luna? Shape's first long post: + Show Spoiler +
On August 08 2016 20:58 Shapelog wrote: Page 10 Thoughts
On August 08 2016 02:38 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: Guys honestly I've been getting mislynched a lot lately so that's making me worried about getting mislynched which is making me look scummy. Kind of like when you get soft once then next time you can't stop thinking about all the pressure so you get soft again.
Then your girlfriends like damn u need to see a doctor. But only you understand that it's not that at all.
Panicy Kush is Panicy
Also, on this site, you haven't got ML expect in 72 hours. Brav. ended early, and you were Mason in part 1. And besides, we are scum remember? It is a Lynch!
On August 08 2016 02:38 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: Guys honestly I've been getting mislynched a lot lately so that's making me worried about getting mislynched which is making me look scummy. Kind of like when you get soft once then next time you can't stop thinking about all the pressure so you get soft again.
Then your girlfriends like damn u need to see a doctor. But only you understand that it's not that at all.
This is incredibly scummy. This guy spends the last 20 games as town not giving a shit whether he gets mislynched. This game he gets questioned on some simple point and responds with what could only be described as verbal diarrhea. I'm not buying it.
On August 07 2016 13:07 Damdred wrote: Honestly was just busy tonight but I'm here for a bit.
I can live with a disf pressure today see where it goes but we will see.
GB could potentially be my friend.
I'M YOUR FRAND!
Trust me, disformation is mafia.
ooh what about GB pushing disfo mislynch meh probably not
How's it a mislynch again?
I think you skipped this tumble GB might want an answer.
As for the RNG Lynch really shouldn't, while d1 lynches are more miss than hit the gathered informTion is more valuable than something people don't have to really take a stand on. Probably not scummy for sl though the other two hrmmm maybe.
oh yeah in case you were wondering GB, it wasn't a mislynch but more so suspicion. pretty bad read though and I do not stand by it.
From what I make out of this post, No longer believes in the read he had on Dis. And he finds his reasoning bad, which was this:
On August 07 2016 10:54 Tumblewood wrote: disfo trying to read into Damdred's joke is a red flag to me. doesn't read as tryhard and I know he is a decent player. I am still on the lookout for an action from him that makes it town though.
And lets assume Tumble's ML comment was indeed meant, I have sus. but not enough to be sure. So this means two things:
First, Tumble doesn't find the tonal thing at the beginning of the game scummy any more. Meaning if he flip flops in the next few pages, or what not, I and you (the reader, including you tumble) should be sus. I would say, he should also be against the tonal reads on Dis now, but it is Day 1 (and that post was early in Day 1 as well), and he never stated he had a Town read on dis.
Second, and this is only if Dis does flip scum, Tumble could be more scummy, due to him backing away from the notation Dis was scum around the time Kush looked sus. A course, Kush needs to be town in this case as well, unless mafia is the three of them, and they are just doing me and busing the shit out of each other.
From what I now make out of his post, I realized that the sus. he is talking about is about GB, and not dis. and that he didn't change the read on dis, but on GB. Would like to know the bad read though.
As I understood Tumble meant this read:
On August 07 2016 13:14 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 07 2016 13:07 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 07 2016 13:07 Damdred wrote: Honestly was just busy tonight but I'm here for a bit.
I can live with a disf pressure today see where it goes but we will see.
GB could potentially be my friend.
I'M YOUR FRAND!
Trust me, disformation is mafia.
ooh what about GB pushing disfo mislynch meh probably not
Also: Confused Shape dis confounds completely. Shape's second really long post: + Show Spoiler +
On August 08 2016 21:33 Shapelog wrote: Page 1--All screw it I just make a mega post.
On August 08 2016 03:11 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On August 08 2016 03:08 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 08 2016 03:01 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On August 08 2016 02:55 Grackaroni wrote: I don't know what to say if you're town Kush. This has been the single worst response to a question I have ever seen in all of mafia.
Wasn't your case that I care therefore I am mafia? So How was my response anything but true?
No I write that a lot and it seems to fail as often as it hits. My case here is that you are acting uncharacteristically squirmy and you already recognized that your behavior had been scummy. You tried to explain away your actions by saying that you are especially concerned about being mislynched this game and that is why you are being scummy. I think you being scum is a lot more likely than this being true.
And I'm saying my "squirminess" was merely me trolling you.
On August 08 2016 03:12 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On August 08 2016 03:11 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 08 2016 03:11 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On August 08 2016 03:08 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 08 2016 03:01 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On August 08 2016 02:55 Grackaroni wrote: I don't know what to say if you're town Kush. This has been the single worst response to a question I have ever seen in all of mafia.
Wasn't your case that I care therefore I am mafia? So How was my response anything but true?
No I write that a lot and it seems to fail as often as it hits. My case here is that you are acting uncharacteristically squirmy and you already recognized that your behavior had been scummy. You tried to explain away your actions by saying that you are especially concerned about being mislynched this game and that is why you are being scummy. I think you being scum is a lot more likely than this being true.
And I'm saying my "squirminess" was merely me trolling you.
Good one. You got me. Vote stands.
How about if I said I was being too scummy to be scum.
No no no! You suck at being scum! ... Maybe I really do have to check the mafia QT and coach you on BS excuses to why you are not scum. FFS.
On August 08 2016 03:26 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: <a href="/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=25925102" class="submessage" title="August 07 2016 14:17 EDT"><span class="post_date">1 minute ago</span> <span class="post_time"><!--post time needed here--></span></a> So our number is 17.
On August 08 2016 04:46 Vivax wrote: Did a quick ctrl-f of my name, no results so far.
Is the theory that only scum would try to deflect attention to me being afk for 1 half of D1 a shit theory or a good theory? With the caveat that they'd have to be under pressure to do so, so is it safe to assume no scum so far was under pressure? Or only scum that doesn't know my meta?
What the fuck are you talking about?
Narcissistic Narcissist!
But really, this was just randomly thrown out there.
On August 08 2016 05:20 Damdred wrote: I honestly kind of felt like i would love this game with the player list but i'm kind of depressed every time i enter into it, which is kinda meh hf won't even talk to me so far :'(.
In any sense you still can't read me Sl and no idea why not (this case just me not posting much to go on).
Damdred 100% sad because he is in a team with me and kush.
Also, I know sadness/Emo Damdred = town, but fuck cell mafia. Then again, I did caught you in cell, but not anywhere else so....
At least he is no friend of RNGesus. Cause friends of RNGesus are apparently no friends of mine. Also agree with/like the point on SL. (Read: SL is a TR) Anyone got meta on Shape?
Also how do you, out of all the people who have scum read me every game you watched, not have meta on me?
And I am going to do a Read post after this post.
Eh, we haven't played together yet and I don't read most games closely, when I am #obswarrioring. Also remember the part where I basically scumread you 100% of the time, when i was #obswarrioring? =p Well there was one recently, where you were kinda obv town. Maybe I should go back and compare that game to this, but I don't think you are a good lynch today.
Oh wow. SL, kush, tumble and luna were all in 72h with scum!grack. Any comments on meta/feels if you haven't already? luna, sl, kush were town and tumble also scum that game btw.
On August 09 2016 03:16 disformation wrote: Oh wow. SL, kush, tumble and luna were all in 72h with scum!grack. Any comments on meta/feels if you haven't already? luna, sl, kush were town and tumble also scum that game btw.
he was very just-skate-by in that game. nothing exceptional, but he didn't do anything notably scummy.
from what i have seen: lots of one liners. lots of fluffs. lots of comments that look decent put dont go anywhere in particular. though he hasn't been under any big pressure so far as I saw, so I guess he has to play different this game anyway. not sure if these are a great basis for comparison. also hard filter to read, gah. *rubs eyes*
Oh. Also: deadline in like 3 hours and we are not even close to a majority on anyone. So we should really start to consolidate. A no lynch would very much suck.
On August 09 2016 03:49 disformation wrote: Yeah, I think I like the luna lynch a bit more now. Prolly should look at kush again... and I nearly forgot to look at mdergs filter.
What makes you like the Luna lynch? It actually feels like he doesn't have the time to me.
On August 08 2016 05:34 disformation wrote: What do you think of HF's points on Luna? The points HF makes are decent and Luna's filter is meh.
In the same vein: @ tumble: can you try another approach of explaining why you don't like HF's scum read on Luna? Cause I am not really seeing it.
Going to look at Lunas town game. After that prolly going to look into kush and grack.
On August 08 2016 05:34 disformation wrote: What do you think of HF's points on Luna? The points HF makes are decent and Luna's filter is meh.
In the same vein: @ tumble: can you try another approach of explaining why you don't like HF's scum read on Luna? Cause I am not really seeing it.
Going to look at Lunas town game. After that prolly going to look into kush and grack.
To clarify the question @ tumble: you are basically telling HF to read between the lines. Can you spell out for what you are seeing there, I am bad at reading between lines.
Otherwise I did a short look at Lunas town filter from 72h and it is somewhat offtopi,c but reads and feels more carefree than what he has done this game so far. So tonally there is a difference to this game imo.
On August 08 2016 05:34 disformation wrote: What do you think of HF's points on Luna? The points HF makes are decent and Luna's filter is meh.
In the same vein: @ tumble: can you try another approach of explaining why you don't like HF's scum read on Luna? Cause I am not really seeing it.
Going to look at Lunas town game. After that prolly going to look into kush and grack.
As for HF points on Luna, they exist. Are they something thats strong enough to lynch at this exact moment not really.
But currently I am having a horrible time differentiating people from null/scum/town. Its all a huge mess.
Hm. Agree.
TW and you are town. There is something off in the Grack vs kush thing. I like Grack a bit more than kush. Slight townlean on GB for the way he is pushing me, maybe? Slight scumlrean on Luna.
Huge pile of null / players who haven't done much as so far. Also it seems like nearly all players have this problem, which might be a bit problematic considering this is a majority lynch game. Also getting late here. Should be able to get a few (phone) posts of at work and then go filter diving in the evening.
On August 08 2016 15:53 disformation wrote: uuuuuuhhh, dat luna post though...
tw what do you think of my exchange with grsck?
On August 08 2016 16:09 disformation wrote: town!luna was also very active/spammy in 72h
On August 08 2016 16:38 disformation wrote: Ofc he just goes for the rngesus vote without even mentioning me once in his filter. luna now #1 scum. grack #2 scum.
On August 08 2016 19:57 disformation wrote: Well, I really don't like luna just gtfo'ing and voting on the rng train without a single mention of that, or me for that matter, in thread. On the other hand I don't like grack at all either.
Could it be as easy as Grack/Luna/x? Kinda inclinded to think so atm. Anyway, since there are only about 11h left until lunch time and we need a majority of 7 to actually lynch someone (no lynch would super suck here) I'll move back to grack.
Still need to check out grack's filter from 72h, when I get home though.
On August 09 2016 00:52 Lunaticman wrote: I think Kush is actually telling the truth on the matter of not wanting to die. But it feels like a lame excuse. Any VT would fight way more against a lynch like that when they have time to post.
I don't think Kush is the way to go based on his filter. I have a better hunch about Damdred or GlowingBear. Both of their filters are enough content to avoid a day 1 lynch and missdirection, typical mafia behaviour.
Like this post is kinda weird, slight suspicion pushed without taken a real stance or explaining mich of anything. And my filter is so bare this game idk how I'm avoiding a Lynch meh
On August 09 2016 04:43 GlowingBear wrote: Wait, this is majority?
On July 23 2016 07:49 Onegu wrote:
Voting rules:
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On August 09 2016 03:16 disformation wrote: Oh wow. SL, kush, tumble and luna were all in 72h with scum!grack. Any comments on meta/feels if you haven't already? luna, sl, kush were town and tumble also scum that game btw.
following his meta to a T. excuses complaining not doing anything
On August 09 2016 05:07 sicklucker wrote: I like that disinfo does not wanna lynch luna tho
Sry to disappoint, but I am currently voting luna. TBH I have more than enough reason to think both Grack and luna have a pretty high chance of flipping scum. A bit torn on who I want to lunch more. Like I just posted my reasons to vote luna like a page or two ago?
On August 09 2016 05:10 Shapelog wrote: Also, What do you guys think about the stutter point I brought up?
Stutters is a huge coin flip imo and your point a bit wifomy, isnt it? But yeah I guess it is sliiightly more towny? On the other hand his filter doesnt support a huge bunch of towniness? Hope he steps up.
On August 09 2016 05:11 sicklucker wrote: oh ok maybe you can die then
actually why do you dislike the luna lynch this much. I get that you don't like HF's push on luna very much, but what about the other points on luna? Do you just think grack is way more scummy?
also: hfs push on luna is for a weak opening post. gbs push on me is for a weak opening post. so is the only other point against me taht I am currently voting luna? where does this incredible luna tr come from? dont recall you putting that out.
Right kush hasn't posted after rng'ing hsi vote on me? sticking to the rng vote like that seems more town... on the other hand he had the super shady exchange with grack...
oh wait looking at kushs filter again he also tred luna for a post nearly everyone else hated? this one:
On August 08 2016 19:51 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On August 08 2016 15:46 Lunaticman wrote: So I dont really have time to post much until the deadline, Why is all the activity goig on while Im sleeping...
On August 09 2016 05:11 sicklucker wrote: oh ok maybe you can die then
actually why do you dislike the luna lynch this much. I get that you don't like HF's push on luna very much, but what about the other points on luna? Do you just think grack is way more scummy?
also: hfs push on luna is for a weak opening post. gbs push on me is for a weak opening post. so is the only other point against me taht I am currently voting luna? where does this incredible luna tr come from? dont recall you putting that out.
hf is literraly scum reading me because I dont really care about it so I dont know how you can jump to this conclusion
wait wat? okay. he is scumreading you because you dont scumread him for the luna push, right? but you still dont like the luna push, or at least the lynch, or did I mess up here? then why dont you dislike the luna push/lynch?
Well. He reminds me of ninjabunnies in NSM13. She had a bleh scumread on me all game and refused to reconsider. big question though: do we even ahve 7 ppl here willing to do that?
well according to tw's plan now is the time to move to the person with the most votes. since that is still kush. I will move there. can we PLEASE have two more ppl?
Good morning. As time progresses GB is wandering down towards the bottom of my list. Unwillingness to change ones reads is a good scum indicator in my experience. Not that he really has any reads besides me. Might be a bit biased therefore though.
I want to completely reread/reevaluate grack and luna.
@Luna: I still have no idea why you want to lynch me. Plus now you are saying that the other guy who wants to lynch me is a good shot? You are making very little sense to me. Also it is night time your current vote is invalid.
TBH Luna might just be one of those ppl I can't read for shit, but let me look at his filter later. Also not going the VCA at work, so you guys have to wait for this evening for that.
On August 09 2016 06:55 Lunaticman wrote: Wow, Vivax and Damdred you look so scummy atm. I would probably turn red by just touching you.
Not sure why exactly I pushed for the 'll synch I wanted and got it.
Vivax idk just is a null thing his play is kinda bad though.
In any case if kush flips scum I think,lunatic is basically lock town. If he's town than this post is bad for,trying to attribute blame to for no real reason.
On August 09 2016 07:05 Lunaticman wrote: I fucking knew it.
... has someone a TR on him? Can someone explain that me why? Remember that he was sitting on a non relevant wagon, refusing to buckle. Which is anti-town in the situation. Tonally this stubborn behavior is more likely to come from town, but it also looked like a misslynch for a very long time, which would have been amazing for scum.
On August 09 2016 16:57 disformation wrote: Good morning. As time progresses GB is wandering down towards the bottom of my list. Unwillingness to change ones reads is a good scum indicator in my experience. Not that he really has any reads besides me. Might be a bit biased therefore though.
I want to completely reread/reevaluate grack and luna.
@Luna: I still have no idea why you want to lynch me. Plus now you are saying that the other guy who wants to lynch me is a good shot? You are making very little sense to me. Also it is night time your current vote is invalid.
TBH Luna might just be one of those ppl I can't read for shit, but let me look at his filter later. Also not going the VCA at work, so you guys have to wait for this evening for that.
Your making the mistake of thinking that any post more recent than my past page is actually relevant to my line of thinking.
On August 09 2016 17:11 disformation wrote: It is like you are refusing to take responsibility for your filter/past actions. Which screams scum to me.
The simple fact is it was obvious Kush wasn't mafia. I told you and I'll reiterate:
I voted on you like 20 hours before deadline because not voting is mafia indicative. I just refused to lynch a townie.
I'm the best looking townie in the game, there is nothing you can say about it.
If there is someone you should be pressuring it is damdred and Vix they look super scummy.
I also still think mafia tried to save you.
Yes, Disinformation/Damdred/Vix look very appealing.
If you think kush was obv town then you have TMI. You are also admitting that a no-lynch would have been better than the kush lynch? I agree on Vivax. Have to reread Damdred.
On August 09 2016 17:11 disformation wrote: It is like you are refusing to take responsibility for your filter/past actions. Which screams scum to me.
The simple fact is it was obvious Kush wasn't mafia. I told you and I'll reiterate:
I voted on you like 20 hours before deadline because not voting is mafia indicative. I just refused to lynch a townie.
I'm the best looking townie in the game, there is nothing you can say about it.
If there is someone you should be pressuring it is damdred and Vix they look super scummy.
I also still think mafia tried to save you.
Yes, Disinformation/Damdred/Vix look very appealing.
If you think kush was obv town then you have TMI. You are also admitting that a no-lynch would have been better than the kush lynch? I agree on Vivax. Have to reread Damdred.
Are you of the opinion lynching townies is good?
And don't tell me it was because you wanted to "gain" information it was day one.
What the hell is TMI?
TMI means too much information. Basically since Scum knows the alignment of everyone in the game, they sometimes do stuff like super hard TR one person, not really defend them and then pretend to be super towny for having know that a person was town while having done nothing to prevent the lynch. kinda sounds familiar somehow, but I cant put my finger on it...
also no idea where your "read" on damdred comes from. i think it is as good as your "read" on me. hint: not very good. if you want to scumread everyone voting kush, you have 9 scummers this game. gl.
On August 09 2016 22:58 disformation wrote: okay sweetheart, prolly last attempt to reason with you, cause your attitude is horrible and I might make as much progress when talking to a wall.
On August 09 2016 18:13 Lunaticman wrote:
On August 09 2016 17:45 disformation wrote:
On August 09 2016 17:37 Lunaticman wrote:
On August 09 2016 17:11 disformation wrote: It is like you are refusing to take responsibility for your filter/past actions. Which screams scum to me.
The simple fact is it was obvious Kush wasn't mafia. I told you and I'll reiterate:
I voted on you like 20 hours before deadline because not voting is mafia indicative. I just refused to lynch a townie.
I'm the best looking townie in the game, there is nothing you can say about it.
If there is someone you should be pressuring it is damdred and Vix they look super scummy.
I also still think mafia tried to save you.
Yes, Disinformation/Damdred/Vix look very appealing.
If you think kush was obv town then you have TMI. You are also admitting that a no-lynch would have been better than the kush lynch? I agree on Vivax. Have to reread Damdred.
Are you of the opinion lynching townies is good?
And don't tell me it was because you wanted to "gain" information it was day one.
What the hell is TMI?
TMI means too much information. Basically since Scum knows the alignment of everyone in the game, they sometimes do stuff like super hard TR one person, not really defend them and then pretend to be super towny for having know that a person was town while having done nothing to prevent the lynch. kinda sounds familiar somehow, but I cant put my finger on it...
also no idea where your "read" on damdred comes from. i think it is as good as your "read" on me. hint: not very good. if you want to scumread everyone voting kush, you have 9 scummers this game. gl.
I already answered this. He was saving his vote without reason and I specifically asked him why, at least read the filter as you claim.
also no idea where your "read" on damdred comes from. i think it is as good as your "read" on me. hint: not very good.
luna parks his vote on a not really relevant wagon. Since it looked very long like we won't get a lynch at all I would call that anti-town at best. his constant and most stubborn refusal to move the vote is probably coming from town though. -.-
GB Votes me very early in the game. At least tries to get some ppl on my wagon. But leaves his vote on a not really relevant wagon and gtfos. Might be trying to cause a no lynch. damn scummy.
SL On grack:
On August 08 2016 17:58 sicklucker wrote: acualy its way too similar. just gonna park my vote on him and call it a cycle
On me when I am lunatic:
On August 09 2016 05:11 sicklucker wrote: oh ok maybe you can die then
Then:
On August 09 2016 06:12 sicklucker wrote: Honestly lynching is always better then no lynching and im not sure any of the wagons are town like I usually am in this spot. So ill be putting whoevers leading over the top if it comes to it even lunatic
His vote never leaves grack. He never votes me. He never explains his super tr on luna? Super confusing stuff. Though SL being super confusing is not necessarily AI. Still he DID leave his vote on a dead wagon. Might be also trying to split votes. Conclusion: At least 1 scum not being on the kush wagon would make a lot of sense. Scum generally wants to avoid to being packed to tight onto one wagon, plus a no lynch is greatly beneficial to them. With the chaos at EoD I can see that being a plan. That means at least one of GB, Luna and SL is scum. With respect of my general reads that is probably GB.
PPL on the kush wagon
Vivax Does nothing all day. Votes as 8th person for kush for no reason. gftos. damn scummy.
Stutters Vores kush pretty early. Talks a tiny bit about luna and GB, but overall doesn't seem very invested/interested in the lynch. Was okay-ish with a luna lynch, didn't like a GB lynch. Slightly scummy.
Shape Gets on kush fairly early. The hate on maths is real though. Not a fan of the GB wagon so stays on Kush. Seems legit so far. The weird thing to me are those times where is goes "I am really bad at reading kush" as if he was trying to avoid responsibility. So that is scummy, too.
Grack Has the weird interaction with kush. Decides kush is scum, despite liking the random vote. has the interaction with me, votes me. Says he can wait a day on kush and then comes back later and likes the kush wagon the most:
On August 09 2016 05:27 Grackaroni wrote: Kush is definitely my favorite lynch of the bunch right now.
Also asks HF to join the Kush wagon:
On August 09 2016 05:39 Grackaroni wrote: You ready to get on the Kush wagon HF?
So from a VCA standpoint I see no problems here.
Damdred Likes a Luna or Kush lynch. Dislikes the Grack and disf wagons. Decides on kush, cause meta. Willing to vote GB, but wants to make sure there is a lynch. Also no complaints here.
mderg Starts liking a Grack lynch over a luna lynch. Likes further points being brought up against luna, likes points on grack being town, so switches to Luna. In my experience the willingness to reevaluate reads is more likely to come from town. Dislikes the GB train and consolidates on kush, when TW's plan kicks in. Should post more though, it is hard to follow his reads sometimes.
tumble After disliking my opening he scumreads grack and kush. with his preferred lynch being grack. trs kush. more firm on his grack scum read. tone reads luna town. has a plan to save the lynch:
On August 09 2016 06:33 Tumblewood wrote: I say that 10 minutes before deadline we all consolidate on whoever has the most votes. did you hear that? I say, 10 minutes before deadline we all consolidate on whoever has the most votes.
has a huge lynch pool:
On August 09 2016 06:39 Tumblewood wrote: literally no one has left my scum pool yet GB, vivax, stutters, shape, grack is my preferred lynch pool.
Briefly joins HF (who he TRs) on GB (in his lynch pool) and then returns to kush according to his plan. Contribution to town agenda and seems to care about the lynch.
HF Decides to dislike the luna lynch. Creates the GB wagon. Consolidates on kush and seems to be legit disappointed by the lynch outcome. So tonally I'd say he cares.
Conclusion Does anyone have some of those town tells? Unfortunately not much new. Though I am a bit more relaxed on Grack now and like Shape a bit less.
Random side note: should GB flip red (as I think he will) we might want to look into the ppl disliking the GB wagon.
Not sure if position on a wagon and timing of votes can be an as good factor as in plurality lynches, and frankly i am starting to get a headache from staring at filters nearly all evening.
On August 10 2016 05:33 Lunaticman wrote: I haven't played with GB before so I don't know about him. But I got a townread on SL. Did he explain why he didn't move his vote?
Only did play with him in a huge themed game that had 2 scum teams. Can't remember him at all.
On August 08 2016 01:00 Holyflare wrote: ##vote Lunaticman
Yeah, that is cool and everything, but could we get an explanation? And/or some reads?
no comment on me missing that. xD Yeah, he came in with a luna vote for his entry and later backed up towards EoD when luna started posting a lot more and had the posts about putting their votes in different places. Actually I like the progression on Luna, cause that were def. the better posts of Luna.
On August 10 2016 05:42 disformation wrote: Oh yeah that was the thing HF basically entered the game with. Def. looking at filters for too long.
On August 08 2016 01:19 disformation wrote:
On August 08 2016 01:00 Holyflare wrote: ##vote Lunaticman
Yeah, that is cool and everything, but could we get an explanation? And/or some reads?
no comment on me missing that. xD Yeah, he came in with a luna vote for his entry and later backed up towards EoD when luna started posting a lot more and had the posts about putting their votes in different places. Actually I like the progression on Luna, cause that were def. the better posts of Luna.
You passed my test.
Still like him for D1 reasons. He is getting Narcissistic more and more as the game goes on, and seems to be infecting others with it. But w/e. I like his Pushy tone/well pushes, and his posting overall is good. His read on Lunatic did seem to change quickly in regards to how much he was pushing Lunatic. Which actually might be a townie, due to Scum!HF not only having the thread supporting (at the time) on a lunatic lynch, but also starting another lynch (GB) later instead of pushing the one he already had. Might be worth relooking at this though if lunatic flips mafia.
I'm tired what does this mean?
I think he means that he came to the same conclusion as me?
On August 10 2016 05:35 Shapelog wrote: Comment on the rest of Dis post later.
Shape Gets on kush fairly early. The hate on maths is real though. Not a fan of the GB wagon so stays on Kush. Seems legit so far. The weird thing to me are those times where is goes "I am really bad at reading kush" as if he was trying to avoid responsibility. So that is scummy, too.
Hahahaha, No.
Have you seen me read Kush?
Ask him post game if you don't believe me now. But I have always been sus. of Kush whenever we play together. And many, many, many, many times, it ends with a ML. With how he was posting this game, I honestly thought he was going to flip scum, finally, and i be redeemed. yet, I honestly cannot tell when it comes to Kush if I am right or not.
Hell, I've even mislynched kush in Lylo when apparently he was obv townie. Brav and Part 1 I was sus. of him as well. Town in all of those.
If you want links, I can give you some.
Yeah, links would be cool. But I will def. not be able to read them b4 night is over.
Seems I did miss a lot of stuff last night. Was skimming omw to work. Damdy claimed vig. HF claimed cop with a red check on GB. No CC's. HF's reasoning sounds pretty solid. Never seen two of the same evasive role in a m13.
Near EoD TW announced his plan of jumping whoever had the most votes. Mderg was one of the ppl to dislike the GB wagon:
On August 09 2016 06:44 mderg wrote: I don't really like this GB lynch stuff. Gb hasn't done jack shit but this feels a bit like an easy way out.
If he had switched to GB, this would have been 4 on GB and 4 on kush, creating a situation where a GB lynch had been way more probable. So he sits on the at the time super dead Luna wagon and votes kush, when it becomes super clear, that kush wil be the lynch. (despite his timing, he was kinda like the 8th vote, since it was kinda clear TW would switch, too, as per his rule).
So GB+mderg+Stutters makes a tone of sense to me here.
Really, two millers? Very likely to be SL. One question then is if I am currently wrong on Grack or Luna, or if two scummers where on kush. With stutters basically afk parking his vote on kush, I can see another scummer hoping onto kush later on though. About lunch time though, so will look at stuff later.
On August 10 2016 20:05 Holyflare wrote: No he slipped man. There's wifom and then there's "I have too much information and need to make it fit"
If GB flips red, I suppose I have to follow your read.
wait? I am too tired? HF is arguing that if GB flips miller, SL has too much information about the game and is therefore mafia. So following that logic it does not really make sense to lynch SL if GB flips red?
Also dis just in: I have now plans for this evening and therefore will be not here.
ToDo: - read shape's links - think about the vc in a world where GB is miller and SL scum - take a look at the nsm that just finished where luna was scum - take another look at the stuff that happened while i was sleeping last night - dont forget that stutters hasnt posted in over 36 hours
On August 11 2016 10:41 Shapelog wrote: Furthermore,
On August 09 2016 06:51 disformation wrote: well according to tw's plan now is the time to move to the person with the most votes. since that is still kush. I will move there. can we PLEASE have two more ppl?
This is literally less then a min before his post announcing he (me'derg) was going to change.
If your going to do VCA, Please be arsed to look at the timestamps so I don't to waste my time going over them myself to double check your work.
Ok sweetie? Ok.
Actually I take it back now. I being dumb.
I thought you were saying that Me'derg was scum with GB over not switching till like after after. I get what you talking about now.
Still going to call you sweetie to imply the fact I am more masculine then you. Sweetie.
Now that you sctually got the point i was making: fo you still like it?
and sry, the only person conquering my heart this game is my sweethesrt luna. so im taken.
On August 11 2016 04:50 Lunaticman wrote: So can we start speculating on who the two mafia buddies are if GB flips scum?
It feels like that is better than the whole thread being afk for 30 hours.
complaining about nothing going on, while doing nothing himself into gtfoing for 11h plus. also there was actuslly kinda stuff going on, as hf pointed out.
On August 11 2016 16:34 Holyflare wrote: Uhh look at that game where i claimed mason or something with onegu think it was star wars related
But he does come up with theories as town but they make sense and are logical. This one is too farfetched since I am actually the cop and it looks like he's trying to set up my mislynch after somehow. If GB was town I'd envisage he'd jump all over sl but he town reads him for the shittest reasons.
Basically who the fuck knows but if gb is miller sl definitely next. I don't even know if millers even show up to role cops btw.
alright, will put it on the list. hope i have enough time this evening zo get evetxthing done.
and yeah should gb flip miller, which i still think is unlikely, SL looks real bad.
still would like zo hear a bit from damdy since he is uncc blue and all.
also no clue about rolecop and miller/wanderer interactions. not sure if i ever saw a rc in a game i was in. well the huge themed game by gm had one i think, but that is not rly relevant here.
fun fact: my name is not disformation. cant do extensive filtering/quoting reading at work. hence why i put that shit on my todo.
aaaand your last game was ongoing until recently.
tbh i think your just trying to fit stuff together to paint me red, as indicated in the last part whete you say that i am scum regardless of gb, after basing a huge part of your "case" on me being scum with gb.
1) if gb and me were a team: why would gb try to get towncred of me when he was planning to afk? makes no sense and would be a horrible play. 2) you sound 1000000% sure that gb is conf mafia. should he flip anything else (unlikely though) this looks very tmi.
On August 11 2016 21:00 disformation wrote: also: if you thought i might be blue. why the fuck did you vote me d1?
hehe good point, I think I just felt it was a mafia power role based on your behavior at the start of the day. Besides all roles have been claimed right so it's moot now anyway.
no its not. its scum indicative for you to have voted someone who you thought might be blue.
On August 11 2016 21:00 disformation wrote: also: if you thought i might be blue. why the fuck did you vote me d1?
hehe good point, I think I just felt it was a mafia power role based on your behavior at the start of the day. Besides all roles have been claimed right so it's moot now anyway.
no its not. its scum indicative for you to have voted someone who you thought might be blue.
Nah it was more of a 50/50, in either case a blue role would have claimed so no misslynch would have happend. There was only upsides going for you.
So if I was like a doc or a cop or whatever, you would have been okay with scum just shooting me for free N1? Amazing plays.
On August 11 2016 20:50 disformation wrote: 1) if gb and me were a team: why would gb try to get towncred of me when he was planning to afk? makes no sense and would be a horrible play.
On August 10 2016 17:43 Holyflare wrote: SL right now:
Also Luna, after HF and me called him out for complaining about nothing happening but doing nothing about it. Also Luna, after he drops that "case" on me and I dismantle it. Also Luna, after he comes back to dig himself deeper into a hole.
Okay, time to look at NSM XXII. Starring: Lunatic Man. Mafia Goon. Lynched D3. Stutters. VT. Killed N1. (by scum) Mderg. VT. Lynched D1. Grack. VT. Killed N1. (vig shot)
Disclaimer: 1 game is not enough to build a strong meta case, so I wouldn't advise lynching ppl off this stuff alone. Ill try to look at 72h, but I aint got infinite time. Stutters 3 pages filter by n1. Look at his filter here. Look at his filter there: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/511961-newbie-student-mafia-xxii?user=Stutters695 wowzers. In nsm XXII. He is engaging ppl, asking questions. actually has a case, with quotes n shit... mderg gets a bit of trouble for some meh reads on scott. accidently hammers himself. dunno looks tonewise similar to here. maybe a bit less active, maybe fewer reads? though somehow the scott thing looks similar to his reactions to the rng stuff this game. gonna call this inconclusive. Does anyone know about his meta? grack fairly big filter, 6 pages. kinda spammy. Actually less gifs and spam than here. Bunch of decent reads and interactions. Gets in a fight with Vig!Rels n1 and gets shot for it. lol. Hm. Actually he had a bit of a fight here first with kush and then with me. I am inclined to give him a bit of town cred here.
But I also have a question:
On August 08 2016 23:48 Grackaroni wrote: Lunatic: Based off the last two games he seems to have pretty strong differences between his town play and scum play. I'd actually give him another day if possible. I don't think his lack of posting is too condemning yet. I think for his town play, you will know it when you see it.
into:
On August 11 2016 11:09 Grackaroni wrote: [...] I liked Lunatic at the end of the day for meta reasons [...]
but I never saw a post where you explain that meta read on him. Did I miss it? Was it the next bit?
On August 09 2016 00:52 Lunaticman wrote: I think Kush is actually telling the truth on the matter of not wanting to die. But it feels like a lame excuse. Any VT would fight way more against a lynch like that when they have time to post.
I don't think Kush is the way to go based on his filter. I have a better hunch about Damdred or GlowingBear. Both of their filters are enough content to avoid a day 1 lynch and missdirection, typical mafia behaviour.
This Lunatic post is a post that I think would draw a lot of unwarranted suspicion just from disagreeing with the current lynch targets and proposing people not currently being suspected while also avoiding the most useless people. I think it's more likely to be his actual way of reading the game than mafia play.[...]
SL was saying luna might is scum based on meta earlier. I actually like both you and SL explain the meta read on Luna in more detail. short break, luna next.
Oh. also: ppl that were actually in the game: feel free to add/correct me. sometimes it is hard to fully grasp stuff without the exact situation. (while simultaneously yelling at luna on your other monitor)
NSM XXII. Starring: Lunatic Man. Mafia Goon. Lynched D3. Did CC the vet eod D2 and got him lynched (the vet was super super inactive). So 1/4 of his filter is like trolling the town after that and post game and stuff. Does not have a bad case + Show Spoiler +
bad case, get it?! hehe
of tunnelvision. Posts exactly 1 reads list. Exactly n1. Exactly what he did here. Feels a lot more subdued in NSM XXII than here though.
Fun fact that is prolly NAI, but really cute: In NSM XXII and here he instantly voted during the N1 phase. + Show Spoiler +
On August 02 2016 20:28 Lunaticman wrote: #Vote Rels
Fyi this vote won't be counted since it was cast before day two officially began.
here:
On August 09 2016 16:42 Lunaticman wrote: #Vote Disinformation
He didn't do that in his towngame in 72h from what I see.
@activity: from what I am reading his activity really depends on his job, with him having some wild/weird shifts from time to time, so activity is prolly not a good metric for him.
On August 12 2016 04:36 Shapelog wrote: I am a Host of said game, and could prob. explain the meta on lunatic if you want. A course idk what they have for it, but there was a noticeable difference in his play.
TBH I am kinda guessing that all 3 (72h, NSMXXII and this one are quite different), but I need to look at 72h.
Also, seeing you post made me remember that I also need to look at your links. -.-
On August 12 2016 04:47 Lunaticman wrote: I think it's kinda funny how in this game and last game people are trying to meta read me. I'll honestly just do whatever I want and feel like. But it's nice to see your trying to solve the game (and looking at the filters like you said you would).
If I was a VTdis though, I would have nailed stutters for meta instead of me. He is playing very differently than his last town game.
And also the amount of posts I make heavily depends on how much time I have when I'm working.
On August 12 2016 04:36 disformation wrote: NSM XXII. Starring: Lunatic Man. Mafia Goon. Lynched D3. [...] @activity: from what I am reading his activity really depends on his job, with him having some wild/weird shifts from time to time, so activity is prolly not a good metric for him.
Okay, maybe I should have made it more clear for stutters: I thought the wowzers would imply that I am taken aback by how different the filters are. On your activity: lo and behold, I said the same thing.
On August 12 2016 04:47 Lunaticman wrote: I think it's kinda funny how in this game and last game people are trying to meta read me. I'll honestly just do whatever I want and feel like. But it's nice to see your trying to solve the game (and looking at the filters like you said you would).
If I was a VTdis though, I would have nailed stutters for meta instead of me. He is playing very differently than his last town game.
And also the amount of posts I make heavily depends on how much time I have when I'm working.
That was actually something I was going to include in the meta discussion lol. the fact you were working 24 hours during that game.
[u] part, Onegu is prob bleaching his eyes over it.
Did I play with Onegu? I have no recollection of being in a game with that nickname.
On August 12 2016 04:36 disformation wrote: NSM XXII. Starring: Lunatic Man. Mafia Goon. Lynched D3. Did CC the vet eod D2 and got him lynched (the vet was super super inactive). So 1/4 of his filter is like trolling the town after that and post game and stuff. Does not have a bad case + Show Spoiler +
bad case, get it?! hehe
of tunnelvision. Posts exactly 1 reads list. Exactly n1. Exactly what he did here. Feels a lot more subdued in NSM XXII than here though.
Fun fact that is prolly NAI, but really cute: In NSM XXII and here he instantly voted during the N1 phase. + Show Spoiler +
On August 02 2016 20:28 Lunaticman wrote: #Vote Rels
Fyi this vote won't be counted since it was cast before day two officially began.
here:
On August 09 2016 16:42 Lunaticman wrote: #Vote Disinformation
He didn't do that in his towngame in 72h from what I see.
@activity: from what I am reading his activity really depends on his job, with him having some wild/weird shifts from time to time, so activity is prolly not a good metric for him.
Again would love for grack and sl to chime in.
The NAI is NAI because he thought it was the day phase in NSM due to people talking (which 72 hours didn't have.
Ah, that makes sense. Out of the links you posted, I'll prolly skip the games that got canceled like really early like. Not sure when I'll do the rest though. Getting tired and I am starting to get confused by the load of tabs/filters I have open. Aiming for: before night phase is over.
On August 12 2016 04:47 Lunaticman wrote: I think it's kinda funny how in this game and last game people are trying to meta read me. I'll honestly just do whatever I want and feel like. But it's nice to see your trying to solve the game (and looking at the filters like you said you would).
If I was a VTdis though, I would have nailed stutters for meta instead of me. He is playing very differently than his last town game.
And also the amount of posts I make heavily depends on how much time I have when I'm working.
On August 12 2016 04:36 disformation wrote: NSM XXII. Starring: Lunatic Man. Mafia Goon. Lynched D3. [...] @activity: from what I am reading his activity really depends on his job, with him having some wild/weird shifts from time to time, so activity is prolly not a good metric for him.
Okay, maybe I should have made it more clear for stutters: I thought the wowzers would imply that I am taken aback by how different the filters are. On your activity: lo and behold, I said the same thing.
Protip: I've played over 20 games. There are ways to catch me as scum, but activity is quite literally the worst one to pick.
haha, why don't you share your prefered way to catch them then?
Your so evasive... God I'm going to switch you for Shape in my 3x mafia pile.
Eh it works pretty well. I've only been mislynched once ironically for being too busy to play). My townieness will be established in time like it always is. I'm not worried.
Anyway, when mafia I bus a lot. Like if I have a slam dunk case, it's because I know. If I'm pushing a town it's much more timid. I also would generally make it a point of emphasis to be more active than I was d1. I would have posted something, even if it wasn't great, rather than essentially nothing to ensure I wasn't a prime vig target. I also wouldn't come back and say essentially nothing.
It's all wifom anyway since obviously I'm aware of my own meta, but activity is not an indicator for me.
I'd be a fine policy lynch though.
Was about to call #selfmeta, but you did that yourself.
On August 12 2016 06:22 mderg wrote: luna's case on disfo is pretty meh, so much narrative with little proper reasoning. Only thing I see is disfo promising to do stuff later on and not really delivering.
Eh... well fair enough I guess. This has gotten me falsely scumread before. #selfmeta
I kinda tend to forget/ignore how much time it takes to research this kind of stuff and format the post and shit. And I def. cant do that at work. Wish I was a student again and had the luxury to just go ham here.
On August 12 2016 06:22 mderg wrote: luna's case on disfo is pretty meh, so much narrative with little proper reasoning. Only thing I see is disfo promising to do stuff later on and not really delivering.
Eh... well fair enough I guess. This has gotten me falsely scumread before. #selfmeta
I kinda tend to forget/ignore how much time it takes to research this kind of stuff and format the post and shit. And I def. cant do that at work. Wish I was a student again and had the luxury to just go ham here.
Well, I as a student still never find the time to do stuff like that because I almost always find some other way to waste time without realizing.
Damn I missed the opportunity to be like "inb4 luna thinks I am on a team with hf now." xD
Bit conflicted on the guy though. On one hand I kinda want him to be scum, for that really bad tunnel on me. On the other hand really bad tunnels are more likely to come from town.
I have seen newer ppl try to play the "too newb to be scum" card before though.
nah, luna has a few mentions of mderg in his filter. from a real quick glance: suspicions early/mid D1 into a TR/lean later. seems to be a tr currently.
Shape's filter are horrible to read. Game 3: he scum reads kush and pushes a bit. then kush claims cop. shape cc's. (kush cop, shape vt). not sure if the cc was to protect kush for 1 more check, or that he didn't believe him. but i guess it supports his point with not being good at reading kush.
So. scrolling through hf's filter: unlikely to be with luna. unlikely to be with sl.
@hf you mention really early that grack is very town to you. I think you never explained why. Actually you did town him kinda hard two times, but didn't explain why.
On August 13 2016 02:36 disformation wrote: So. scrolling through hf's filter: unlikely to be with luna. unlikely to be with sl.
@hf you mention really early that grack is very town to you. I think you never explained why. Actually you did town him kinda hard two times, but didn't explain why.
Are you scum reading HF?
Kinda weird question.
On August 12 2016 07:21 Damdred wrote: No I'm lynching you tomorrow if I'm alive hf. You have every reason as mafia to fake claim and try to get out of it, if your town you made a mistake and we will lose either tomorrow or if you talk your way out of it the next day.
Its just how it is.
I'd say it is more probably for HF to be scum here. Like 70-80% scum or something. Don't nail me on the % thing, pulled these out of my ass. Especially in a 5-3 situation in a majority game, you kinda cannot not vote him.
In a situation where he is scum (likely as I just said), he just needs two towns to vote e.g. sicklucker to be able to do like a last second switch with his whole team or something to win.
I kinda have a hard time placing together a team with HF, so I am hoping to get some information. Yes, HF will prolly try to WIFOM me, but there is nothing else going on is it? Well, I could filter every player alive to see the other side of a possible collection, but after looking at sickluckers filter, I am not sure if I want to do that atm. xD
Was looking through your filter, cause I think you never had a scum read on me before. I understand now. Your OMGUSing me, cause I ask HF stuff to maybe get more information on HF + you.
On August 12 2016 22:52 Lunaticman wrote: I think I need to reread FL:s filter and see if something intresting comes up.
On August 11 2016 20:03 Lunaticman wrote: [...]His filter is also full of statements that he is going to do all this work but it never arrives. I have yet to see a single list from his work.[...]
The case against Disinformation, who promptly lives up to his name as a mafia spreading lies and deceit:
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On August 07 2016 06:58 disformation wrote: So how's everyone doing at this fine <insert local time of day here>? @Tumble: have we played in a game together before? I think I obs-warriored a few games you were in, but not sure if we played together yet.
no
hm. thought so. Lots of ppl I haven't played with before in this actually. I am also noticing quite a bit of brevity on your part. I do hope your <insert local time of day here> is okay. Or are you unhappy with which fate RNGesus provided you?
This very first post set of red flags for me, it actually implies that he has a power role. Since he never stated he was happy or unhappy with his own role, it is in all regards a Freudian slip after reading his own role pm. I wanted to save this for later but it feels like the right time to reveal it considering that all the blue roles have been claimed. He then posts 4 posts in a row just WIFOIMNG which indicates that he is kinda chill about the whole game, of course he is because he knows who the mafia are.
On August 07 2016 16:11 sicklucker wrote: wanna just rng this shit
Mafia
On August 07 2016 23:51 GlowingBear wrote: Town Damdred
Mafia Disformation
Step up people.
Where is sicklucker in the second post?
With the information now available to us it is easy to see that the GB mafia is trying to shade the Disinformation mafia for late game cred. It also such an early post that is feels constructed in a way, taking a stance to look like town. But early enough you can just claim WIFOIMING later. Or at the very late game when Disinformation is lynched and GB is alive towncred. It is all followed by a "I was joking post". Obviously the mafia had a change of heart. It is actually a very clever way to create distance between the two players.
The rest of his filter is full of filler but no effort to solve the game or any real content. He states several times he is going to look at mine/Gracs meta from last game. But never truly arrives at any conclusion. His filter is also full of statements that he is going to do all this work but it never arrives. I have yet to see a single list from his work.
And now look at the conversation between the posts 287# - 303#. With the information now available Tumble our Jailer is positive either Grac or Dis are mafia. The entire exchange is intresting since GB is indeed mafia just look at the votelist from around that time it is obvious that the mafia are trying to save disinformation when they failed to start a train on me.
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Vote Count - Day 1
Not voted (4): Shapelog, Stutters695, Vivax, Damdred
Currently no one is slated to be lynched. There are 13 players presently alive and 7 are needed for the lynch. This day ends in 0m 0s at 00:00 CEST (+02:00).
The voting thread is here and only votes in the voting thread will be counted. _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________
At this critical junction we have one mafia bussing but I would be surprised if two mafia were bussing this early this speaks volumes about Grac being a VT.
With the coloring and my townreads on Mderg and SL there are only a few names left in the trio not known. It comes down to Shapelog or Stutters. I don't think a mafia would be as inactive as Stutters as Viva was so atm the current mafia team looks like this:
Shapelog/GB/Disinformation
It is also cute to look at the interactions between Shapelog/GB and Dis, they are really doing a good job separating their reads/communication etc. There is for example a long qoute on shapelog from Dis where he basically says nothing.
Note: I have tons of posts qouted but it was just to much work atm, also the coloring on dis is based on my read and GB from cop claim. Even if GB flips town it is highly likely that disinformation is still mafia.
Honestly. I think I am going to do what has won me many a town game before:
Sheeping conf. town Damdy.
On August 13 2016 06:58 Damdred wrote: Lynch tomorrow no matter what: Holyflare, call it policy or whatever but you can't claim a red check on someone. Never unclaimed until the last second and nobody can avoid the lynch, it's the right play to lynch him.
Unknown territory: Stutters, I don't even know
Slight scum read: Lunatic, I already said some of it. His constant tunneling with no real evaluations and admitting he thought that person was blue is just so weird. He lacks some if his brownie flair and isn't really interesting past a point.
Could be scum Sl don't sleep on him, only gets active when it looks like a good opportunity to get cred. Hf could be distancing as well. I have a suspicion he is town just because I agreed with a lot of what he said but I'm a bit paranoid about him.
Paranoia: Shape, a few red flags bother me. But overall has ok activity but just lacks a certain oomph that he generally has as town. And is a bit lackluster around lunches (could be busy so nai). Overall I'd leave him until the third Mylo to evaluate.
Provably town: Mderg
Town: Disformation Grac
All three of these have shown some drive . Espe rally grac and dis neither of those should ever be the lynch. Mderg is mostly a gut reaction.
Why Luna is scum, and you are scum too, if you don't vote him D4
Disclaimer: Might be slightly biased
Part 0: Filter Dive
On August 08 2016 23:55 Lunaticman wrote: Meh tbh I'm just really busy with life, it's actually a coincidence. However the first lynch is almost always a town. So I'm fine with switching just on that reason alone.
"I don't care who I misslynch." IMO the bolded part is nothing a town would say. Also implies not caring at all.
Lots of soft pushes then starts the tunnel on me.
On August 09 2016 06:23 Lunaticman wrote: I actually want to lynch dis now, because if he flips red I think we can catch the other 2 quite easy.
If I am wrong please enlighten me, but I don't feel like kush is mafia.
Doesn't sound like he really believes I am scum and wants to lynch me mainly for information all of a sudden.
refuses to unvote me even at points where it looks like there won't be a lynch at all. anti-town.
On August 09 2016 07:05 Lunaticman wrote: I fucking knew it.
after the town!kush flip. trying to distance oneself from a ML is classic scum behaviour.
On August 09 2016 16:57 disformation wrote: Good morning. As time progresses GB is wandering down towards the bottom of my list. Unwillingness to change ones reads is a good scum indicator in my experience. Not that he really has any reads besides me. Might be a bit biased therefore though.
I want to completely reread/reevaluate grack and luna.
@Luna: I still have no idea why you want to lynch me. Plus now you are saying that the other guy who wants to lynch me is a good shot? You are making very little sense to me. Also it is night time your current vote is invalid.
TBH Luna might just be one of those ppl I can't read for shit, but let me look at his filter later. Also not going the VCA at work, so you guys have to wait for this evening for that.
Your making the mistake of thinking that any post more recent than my past page is actually relevant to my line of thinking.
Glowingbear is the one that stands out from the votes, since me and kush are town. Would the mafia put all three players on the train?
If you think yes, Glowingbear is town. If your answer is no, then he should be lynched.
Also Grac please step up, I know you can do better.
I call him out on his not really explained scum read on me, he reacts with dismissal and refusing to take responsibility for things he said in the past. Outright dismissal of a valid question is a scum tell.
Few more soft pushes, then this gem D2:
On August 11 2016 04:50 Lunaticman wrote: So can we start speculating on who the two mafia buddies are if GB flips scum?
It feels like that is better than the whole thread being afk for 30 hours.
Ignoring the posts other ppl (eG me) had made previously to that. So complaining about nothing happening, while doing nothing. Returns after ~14-15 hours to post the case on me, after he gets called out for doing nothing. See Part 2 for more details on the case.
On August 11 2016 21:00 disformation wrote: also: if you thought i might be blue. why the fuck did you vote me d1?
hehe good point, I think I just felt it was a mafia power role based on your behavior at the start of the day. Besides all roles have been claimed right so it's moot now anyway.
On August 11 2016 21:00 disformation wrote: also: if you thought i might be blue. why the fuck did you vote me d1?
hehe good point, I think I just felt it was a mafia power role based on your behavior at the start of the day. Besides all roles have been claimed right so it's moot now anyway.
no its not. its scum indicative for you to have voted someone who you thought might be blue.
Nah it was more of a 50/50, in either case a blue role would have claimed so no misslynch would have happend. There was only upsides going for you.
Actually we all should lynch him for these two posts alone. Dead serious here.
Rest of his filter is literally just a few soft pushes here and there and still thinking i am basically scum with whoever is the current lynch. Ah and not making sense.
Part 1: Overall contribution to the game
A bunch of soft pushes here and there. Never goes anywhere with them. 100% tunnel on me. Unwilling to reconsider in the face of new evidence. Verdict: Not solving the game, therefore scum. Not reevaluation as the game goes on, therefore scum.
Part 2: The most scummy case in the history of ever
The case against Disinformation, who promptly lives up to his name as a mafia spreading lies and deceit:
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On August 07 2016 06:58 disformation wrote: So how's everyone doing at this fine <insert local time of day here>? @Tumble: have we played in a game together before? I think I obs-warriored a few games you were in, but not sure if we played together yet.
no
hm. thought so. Lots of ppl I haven't played with before in this actually. I am also noticing quite a bit of brevity on your part. I do hope your <insert local time of day here> is okay. Or are you unhappy with which fate RNGesus provided you?
This very first post set of red flags for me, it actually implies that he has a power role. Since he never stated he was happy or unhappy with his own role, it is in all regards a Freudian slip after reading his own role pm. I wanted to save this for later but it feels like the right time to reveal it considering that all the blue roles have been claimed. He then posts 4 posts in a row just WIFOIMNG which indicates that he is kinda chill about the whole game, of course he is because he knows who the mafia are.
On August 07 2016 16:11 sicklucker wrote: wanna just rng this shit
Mafia
On August 07 2016 23:51 GlowingBear wrote: Town Damdred
Mafia Disformation
Step up people.
Where is sicklucker in the second post?
With the information now available to us it is easy to see that the GB mafia is trying to shade the Disinformation mafia for late game cred. It also such an early post that is feels constructed in a way, taking a stance to look like town. But early enough you can just claim WIFOIMING later. Or at the very late game when Disinformation is lynched and GB is alive towncred. It is all followed by a "I was joking post". Obviously the mafia had a change of heart. It is actually a very clever way to create distance between the two players.
The rest of his filter is full of filler but no effort to solve the game or any real content. He states several times he is going to look at mine/Gracs meta from last game. But never truly arrives at any conclusion. His filter is also full of statements that he is going to do all this work but it never arrives. I have yet to see a single list from his work.
And now look at the conversation between the posts 287# - 303#. With the information now available Tumble our Jailer is positive either Grac or Dis are mafia. The entire exchange is intresting since GB is indeed mafia just look at the votelist from around that time it is obvious that the mafia are trying to save disinformation when they failed to start a train on me.
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Vote Count - Day 1
Not voted (4): Shapelog, Stutters695, Vivax, Damdred
Currently no one is slated to be lynched. There are 13 players presently alive and 7 are needed for the lynch. This day ends in 0m 0s at 00:00 CEST (+02:00).
The voting thread is here and only votes in the voting thread will be counted. _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________
At this critical junction we have one mafia bussing but I would be surprised if two mafia were bussing this early this speaks volumes about Grac being a VT.
With the coloring and my townreads on Mderg and SL there are only a few names left in the trio not known. It comes down to Shapelog or Stutters. I don't think a mafia would be as inactive as Stutters as Viva was so atm the current mafia team looks like this:
Shapelog/GB/Disinformation
It is also cute to look at the interactions between Shapelog/GB and Dis, they are really doing a good job separating their reads/communication etc. There is for example a long qoute on shapelog from Dis where he basically says nothing.
Note: I have tons of posts qouted but it was just to much work atm, also the coloring on dis is based on my read and GB from cop claim. Even if GB flips town it is highly likely that disinformation is still mafia.
The blue stuff happens. See Part 1.
Huge part about me being scum with GB.
On August 11 2016 20:03 Lunaticman wrote: The rest of his filter is full of filler but no effort to solve the game or any real content. He states several times he is going to look at mine/Gracs meta from last game. But never truly arrives at any conclusion. His filter is also full of statements that he is going to do all this work but it never arrives. I have yet to see a single list from his work.
On August 11 2016 20:03 Lunaticman wrote:Note: I have tons of posts qouted but it was just to much work atm, also the coloring on dis is based on my read and GB from cop claim. Even if GB flips town it is highly likely that disinformation is still mafia.
"Well even though 90% of my case hinges on disf being scum with GB, disf is scum regardless, cause..." Funnily also enables him to be pushing me even after GB flipped green... wonder if he saw that coming.
On August 11 2016 21:22 disformation wrote: also tw could have been killed gor a number of reasons. he was widely townread, active etc... maybe he was blue sniped. i sure as hell dont know.
ofc luna picks the reason that fits his narrative the most.
Verdict: You might ask me: "But disformation, he is a newer player, maybe these were honest mistakes instead of scum tells?" And I will say: "Why not Zoidberg both?"
A few things I can see coming from a newer town player e.g. the TW thing or the overmuch reliance on the association. Points 1,3 and 5 are very very scummy.
Bonus: Bit of WIFOM
Disclaimer: this is me going full WIFOM tinfoil mode. I want to talk a bit about the few good posts he had, that everyone liked.
On August 09 2016 05:54 Lunaticman wrote: Well one positive thing about this is that mafia probably spread their votes at this point. So when we get one flipped we should be able to figure out the rest of them purely based on the voting patterns.
On August 09 2016 05:59 Lunaticman wrote: Tbh if I was mafia I would put one on town lead since we have to have majority, one on standby and one on a train.
So far I don't think it is either of Shape/Grac.
It has to be one of the early posters too.
It wouldn't be a reach to think something like Damdred/Stutter/Dis following that logic right?
I also feel it is strange that dis and Grac has changed their votes two times each.
On August 09 2016 06:10 Holyflare wrote: Also luna can you tell me why you said that comment earlier about 1 mafia on someone and 1 not voting? Talk me through what went through your mind
Since the game is based on majority voting, the best play for mafia is the spread the votes as much as possible.
I just used my thought process based on that assumption. To catch a killer you have to think like a killer.
Damdred for example has the perfect excuse, he can just claim he wanted the town to lynch. So even if it is a misslynch he will get towncred.
That's why I went in and voted even though I didn't have time to read the thread earlier.
People also tend to use me a lot as bait I've noticed. I'm easy towncred and even if I flip green there are so many people scum reading me the town wont know what to do either way.
Note: HF dropped his scum read on him for this. What if that was a plan they made in Scum QT to WIFOM all of us. It is a mechanically strong play, so not too suspicious if someone comes up with it. I.E. scum could have been voting 2 on 1 wagon and 1 on 1 wagon and post this to WIFOM town.
Part 6: Conclusion
Between his reluctance to do much of anything besides pushing me, some pretty bad scum tells (e.g. the blue thing) and a lot of little questionable things, these points outweigh the few points in favour of him. Lynch with fire. KTHXBYE.
Also I would like SL to elaborate/give an update on:
On August 11 2016 23:08 sicklucker wrote: acualy im pretty sure lunatic is just scum. he was an easy town read for me last time. this time hes playing way different
On August 14 2016 08:03 Holyflare wrote: Conspiracy theory, disformation and lunatic are mafoa and he's hard bussing him with things that don't make any sense in the slightest.
On August 14 2016 05:07 Holyflare wrote: Just how I play mafia, that I don't make plans, that I don't want to fake claim ever in favour of talking etc etc.
Can post more mafia qts if you want.
HolyflarePerson was signed in when posted 06-22-2015 06:10 PM ET (US) I'm tempted to fake claim cop today :p
Mig 06-22-2015 06:12 PM ET (US) Right now it is 9-4 need 2 mislynches to win.
HolyflarePerson was signed in when posted 06-22-2015 06:34 PM ET (US) I'll probably say i checked va or something yeh
I realized I could just control f "fake claim." This is like the exact same scenario as this game. Thanks for the QT link.
On August 14 2016 03:40 Holyflare wrote: I don't think I'm particularly shitting up the thread either, I've given you all game relevant information to my thought processes, why SL is mafia and why I thought Luna/Dis etc were town. I've given you my check of Stutters (green) etc etc, not really much shitting.
HF I'm sorry man but it's policy to kill you. If we had a misslynch to spare things might have been different. But your going night night.
That doesn't mean you have to stop playing the game. You can clear up your alignment to the other players.
Explain to me why you thought Disformation's first post was him claiming blue?
[...] A regular townie would just accept it and "die".
@HF: not interacting with you/leaving you hanging D3 was super painful and made me feel very bad. you were clearly caring about this. I hope we can someday have a game together as the same alignment.
next time somebody says phase 2 imma have a stroke.
may or may not post more thoughts about this game.
On August 15 2016 07:09 disformation wrote: some notes on myself: i think that was much better than my last two scum games. still made a bunch of errors:
that entry D1 was shite
some awkward interactions with shape
that N2 thing were I was talking to HF, as if he still was my best town buddy forever. when grack jumped at me for that I really though I dun goofed.
Anyone else noticed some stuff I can/should improve upon?
You played well but now I know you actually put effort in as mafia it won't last
Things to note, you played just the right amount of activity you needed to. I gave you town reads because you were purely putting in more effort at looking through the game and possibilities than the majority of the thread. Playing as mafia is damn exhausting work and in order to conserve energy you just need to make sure you put enough energy in the game to look more constructive than 3/4 of the game, any more and it's suspicious why you're alive.
^ basically you played that great.
The only thing you need to do more is give less of a shit what looks towny and scummy, basically spam the crap out of the game and people won't remember your posts or care enough to look through your filter, I read the scum qt and you were caring far too much what you thought people thought of you If it comes in your head to post just go ahead and post it, the more you fact check and alter it the more fabricated it will eventually look.
Thanks. <3 Yeah, game was already pretty exhausting with the time I put in. Prolly because I constantly had to check the thread in fear something had gone wrong. xD I def, need to learn to chill more.
On August 15 2016 07:46 NocturneMage wrote: what in the actual fuck scumformation????
damn man, great fucking job. would have never caught you. I don't remember your mafia meta being this active or detailed at all, you clearly broke meta as I suggested in obs qt.
"no way disformation is mafia, this game is over if he was."
at least I had the other two, but I would have lynched holyflare first. I would have wanted to see more discussion between hf and sicklucker if I was in mylo with you all but SL wasn't having any of it.
Ahahahahaahaa =D <3 Yeah, some ppl were shutting down the discussion N2/D3 kinda hard. Not blaming them, was just a tad sad.
Problem I have now: I think I played pretty close to my town meta, so I fear I am going to get ML as town now. xD Prolly have to step that up, too.
Fair enough. Main reason for that wall was that I wanted to look like still doing a lot of work, so I could gtfo out of thread for the rest of the day. =p
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If it comes in your head to post just go ahead and post it, the more you fact check and alter it the more fabricated it will eventually look.
