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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 11 2016 22:05 GMT
#1118
I have 0 reasons to claim cop against a GB that was already getting lynched as mafia.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 11 2016 22:09 GMT
#1120
No, next day is lylo damdred, you need to not lynch me.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 11 2016 22:16 GMT
#1124
Here is my perspective which is what I was trying to highlight and what admittedly GB thought was weird the entire day (because it was weird). I am town and now evidently GB is town and that definitely highlights irregularities from mafia's perspective of this whole claim thing.

We have several candidates flagged for mafia at this point and I'll rank them from the most likely:

1. Sicklucker

On August 10 2016 15:36 sicklucker wrote:
in a sick world . if mafia has a rolecop and checked gb and saw he was a miller then mafia hf would make this play. would be pretty sick but way too unlikely. could also just be mafia doing it for the lulz his last mafia performance he didnt acualy try at all and let him self get lynched day 1 with no effort. but hes probably town boring

On August 10 2016 15:37 sicklucker wrote:
We should probably acualy lynch hf if gb flips miller. onegu especially likes to throw rolecops in his games I think...

On August 10 2016 15:37 sicklucker wrote:
REALLY UNLIKELY THO GUYS. just wanna throw that out there


I got a notification that I was roleblocked last night (I don't know why we get notifications at all really but w/e) so I was JK'd at least or MAYBE mafia rb'd which is possibly what SL is alluding to here:

On August 10 2016 16:34 sicklucker wrote:
also shouldnt you have been like jailkeeped last night? vivax sure didnt save himself



On August 10 2016 21:22 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 21:12 GlowingBear wrote:
SL do you think HF is Mafia?


if your town he is. I mean theres nothing I can do untill you flip either way. no ones not gonna lynch you today including me.

But if you are town hes 100% a mafia rolecop. If thats true he saw I was right and is trying to set me up. or he could just be an idiot its hard to tell

On August 10 2016 21:24 sicklucker wrote:
Like its acualy insane that hf believes I slipped about a second miller which is pretty fucking unluckly in a 13 player setup. The fact he thinks its almost a certainty rather then a slim chance like I think is interesting. are lawyers not good at probability?

On August 10 2016 21:25 sicklucker wrote:
either way this game will be fun if gb flips miller. a good old battle royale. If he flips mafia so boring

On August 11 2016 13:59 sicklucker wrote:
ya my role cop scenario acualy makes alot of sense when you think about thanks grack for proving im not crazy. is it likely? hell no I have always said this



Now, think in your own heads, how unlikely was it that I was fake claiming? You guys are entirely in the dark, you did what was right, follow my lead and look for clues and links, SL on the other hand has referenced and foreshadowed (most importantly) GB flipping miller about 1000x throughout the day, not just flipping town, FLIPPING MILLER. That's the most important point of it all, mafia KNOWS I'm town and therefore if I have a red check and they know GB is town he MUST be a miller. This is why I found SL's reaction the most definite mindset of a mafia player because he KNEW ALL ALONG IT WAS HAPPENING.

Mafia chance: 100%
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 11 2016 22:17 GMT
#1125
On August 12 2016 07:11 Damdred wrote:
Oh well if tomorrow is nylon than game is over and it,makes even more sense for you as mafia yo do it.

Always lynch hf even if it loses the game basically.


fuck off don't be a pussy shit, I even warned you that tomorrow was mylo in my posts
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 11 2016 22:21 GMT
#1127
Like I get it you're salty and you want to do shit policy votes because you're scared but don't fuck off again damdred at least play around and talk to me about people. I won't be obnoxious, I'll lay all my cards out on the table and I'll be right up there with you guys helping out.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 11 2016 22:22 GMT
#1128
I don't have any reason as mafia to fake claim, GB was the next lynch easily, I was pretty much one of the top town reads and the jk is dead, pretty much 0 reasons. The reason as town is mafia lynch, bait reactions and fuck shit up in a game where people were doing dick for 47 hours and then playing.

Either way read my above post and talk to me, don't be a stubborn oaf.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 11 2016 22:24 GMT
#1129
Urgh, it's whatever. If at the end of 72 hours you want to still lynch me then be my guest but I'll be here every step of the way outlining my thoughts of each post.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 11 2016 23:22 GMT
#1147
I've given you SL on a silver plate at least. People that are split on me between being mafia/p lynch at least if you're doing this think in two mindsets, the game where I am mafia and have done this and the game where I am town.

Now, think for a second about leaps in logic.

You are a towny, you see someone who looks relatively towny come out and claim cop on a guy that looks relatively scummy and you think, "oh ok cool," and move on with your day. At a stretch you have a niggling feeling that I'm mafia but in that case the flip sorts itself out and you can think about that later, for now you'll try and solve the game by process of Occam's razor.

Say you are mafia and see me going after GB with a red. You know I am town and you know GB is town. Your options are I'm fake claiming and rescind it later or I'm the actual cop and GB HAS to be miller. These are your ONLY two options.

Now, your job as a mafia is to throw suspicion on people, try and look towny and how do you do that? You try and make up scenarios. A wild towny scenario is that I'm just a mafia MAYBE trying to draw a cop claim and push the game to lylo. A wild mafia scenario when they have perfect information is that I must be a cop so the only way to throw suspicion on it is come up with a scenario that makes sense in that world, that I'm both mafia AND a rolecop AND tat I checked GB.

Sicklucker has fallen for the classic overindulgence in mafia perfect information hook line and sinker. I realise this is hard to swallow after the events that unfolded but look at it this way:

A) GB didn't flip miller at all, he was just a towny.

B) The only way to come up with the theory of rolecop and miller is if both me and GB were town because then if I was cop GB would definitely be miller.

I think the above is the most concrete proof I have that SL is mafia, he has foreshadowed it all day.

The rest will follow in the next 72 hours, phase 2 was not completed it is ongoing.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 11 2016 23:25 GMT
#1148
For now I am done with SL. I know my usual style would be to completely clog up the thread with arguing, most likely with him, but I will do my best to ignore him and help you.

All I ask is that you think in two mindsets still and don't close off the thinking that I am town completely. It's the only hope left.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 11 2016 23:30 GMT
#1149
My initial plan was to unclaim on Gb if he tried to play or at least be sensible and subsequently draw a shot later. You can see me try and talk to GB through the day and I did see gleams of town GB with the giving up and it's part of the reason I kept telling him to try and solve the game and arguing with him instead of afking on it. However, he didn't vote, he completely ignored SL's posts that made SL almost confirmed mafia to himself and he was stuck on his one read from the start of day 1.

I'm definitely disappointed and ashamed that he solely joined up to claim blue and afk but obviously part of it is my fault too.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 11 2016 23:31 GMT
#1150
Also my wild theory from d2 start is still possible. Difvaimvasvios.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 11 2016 23:35 GMT
#1151
I have a bit of a block with Luna for the most part and it's definitely because I've never played with him but I tend to think that new mafia don't try and play the game or solve it when there's a red check afk day. Luna made a case against disfo based almost entirely on his association with GB. So the question is, is he smart enough /motivated to do that. Generally I would say new players arent. I also was hesitant to lynch him d1 because I saw some towny obstinace.

Basically he's probably town unless you can say he's an intelligent mafia.

Disformation is much the same reasoning for a town read but his posting comes across as smart. Yet, he filter dived previous games, did associations etc etc. I'd very likely say he was town too.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 11 2016 23:38 GMT
#1153
On August 12 2016 08:35 Holyflare wrote:
I have a bit of a block with Luna for the most part and it's definitely because I've never played with him but I tend to think that new mafia don't try and play the game or solve it when there's a red check afk day. Luna made a case against disfo based almost entirely on his association with GB. So the question is, is he smart enough /motivated to do that. Generally I would say new players arent. I also was hesitant to lynch him d1 because I saw some towny obstinace.

Basically he's probably town unless you can say he's an intelligent mafia.

Disformation is much the same reasoning for a town read but his posting comes across as smart. Yet, he filter dived previous games, did associations etc etc. I'd very likely say he was town too.


An addendum to this though, while Luna's experience and actions lead to me thinking he's town some of the content about there being multiple mafia on wagons is very fucking suspicious and sends alarm bells evry time I hear it.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 11 2016 23:46 GMT
#1158
On August 12 2016 08:44 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2016 08:39 sicklucker wrote:
do i have to read hfs posts? we are sensible people right?

Eh I prob read them tomorrow.
Getting off for tonight.


Please stay for a couple of minutes.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 11 2016 23:53 GMT
#1163
Please ignore Sicklucker's posts because as you can see they are grossly defamatory and do not help the game in any way. I even gave the reason I would have as mafia before he has claimed to do it.

Regardless, I will help you with as much information as I can with regards to as many people as I can while I get sniped from the sidelines.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 11 2016 23:54 GMT
#1166
In facr you should actually listen to sicklucker. Live in the world where I am mafia. But do not close me off, please, I will do my best. You have no reasons at least to skip over my posts because you can objectively read the content.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 11 2016 23:56 GMT
#1167
Ok guys, my day 1 theiry may actually be true.

Damdred what are you confused about? Everything aligns with what I was thinking because nothing I have said is a lie.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 11 2016 23:57 GMT
#1168
On August 12 2016 08:31 Holyflare wrote:
Also my wild theory from d2 start is still possible. Difvaimvasvios.


!remindme 24 hours
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 12 2016 00:01 GMT
#1171
Please come back people.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 12 2016 00:11 GMT
#1178
On August 12 2016 09:03 Damdred wrote:
I'm not saying you are necessarily lying, though you have said several lies in the past 48 hours that are damming in itself.

Firstly you say that Gb is easily the next lynch regardless of whether you fake the claim or,not. Basically this is true, Gb already had half the votes needed at the time (basically I was found to vote before the claim anyway).

The better question is what's the point of the fake claim then? There is none


Perhaps you were afk for most of the day but I outlined it before. It was

a) a reaction test for GB because I was frustrated with him and you said you thought that he had towny moments d1 so I wanted to see what I did. I thought it would be hilarious after Himalayas to get him to fight me with his passion of calling me mafia but he didnt.

B) it was also to get people to talk about the claim and solve the game around it because the information processed with perfect information as mafia is vastly different usually.

This leads me to the big posts on SL (PLEASE PLEASE READ THEM) since it basically confirms him mafia if you accept a world where I'm town. It also lead to town reads on people like disfo, luna to an extent, I think shape was doing stuff but need to make sure.

You can read the interactions between me and GB in the thread again, at every step of the cycle I pleaded with him to try and try but he just kept coming up with generic stuff and he ignored the sl thing entirely. Like GB thought I was fake claiming town or mafia and didn't fight me, I'm not used to that at all, ever.

Lastly take the point of view from my last big post on sl now apply it to mid cycle. I see GB being pitiful and it hurts my heart to think he might be town. I know I'm town and I see sl call out the role cop and miller posts and I jump all over it. Why would this occur if I was mafia? It wouldn't make sense for me to think that way as mafia and gb even says that.

Sl throws accusations at me in regards to this exact situation occuring all day where I'm a role cop but now his story has shifted. Read sl's filter for me please.
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