On August 11 2016 22:29 GlowingBear wrote:
Like, again, I've never questioned your night actions, I have no idea why you're coming up with that.

I also don't understand how you can say that SL has too much insight on me when he calls me Miller (I didn't see that post?) and you jump on him calling him Mafia and never dropping that read when, well, he couldn't have too much insight because you think I'm Mafia and you said that two millers is impossible.

What I'm trying to say is: you either believe I'm Mafia and SL is stupid town considering I'm Miller, or you believe SL had TMI, then I'm town and he is Mafia. You can't call us both Mafia, and that's what you're doing.

If HF was town he would have unclaimed and moved the lynch on to SL on day 2 since he never had a check on GB in the first place. He didn't do that. He pushed through the mislynch on GB and is now trying to close out the game with this final SL push.

Grackaroni

United States9855 Posts

August 12 2016 22:23 GMT

#1333

On August 13 2016 07:11 Holyflare wrote:
Mafia could have a vig/role cop and used the vivax town kill to gain later cred if needed, vig claim is pretty wifom but obviously we'd be deciding on the player rather than the claim if it happened.

There are no mafia vigs in 13 player games. That definitely destroys the balance.

Grackaroni

United States9855 Posts

August 12 2016 22:25 GMT

#1336

On August 13 2016 07:24 Holyflare wrote:

Show nested quote +

No, I didn't believe GB could be that shit as town, it's as simple as that.

But they aren't mutually exclusive. If you are convinced that SL has slipped on day 2 then you have to assume that GB is that shit as town by definition.

Grackaroni

United States9855 Posts

August 12 2016 22:32 GMT

#1340

On August 13 2016 07:26 Holyflare wrote:
Unless you're seriously saying 1 shot vig + jk is a balanced setup on its own then you're crazy.

I believe that is a balanced setup. If I put some time into digging I'm sure I could find a setup like that. I'll tell you what. I'll find the JK/Vig game. You find the m13 mafia vig game.

Grackaroni

United States9855 Posts

August 12 2016 22:40 GMT

#1345

The struggle was real. It wasn't a possibility in the last game, but it was the 2nd to last game.

On July 18 2016 11:03 Damdred wrote:
This will be a semi-closed setup, the scum team will more than likely know the setup based on the roles that have been distributed for them.

I have done my best to balance the game this does not account for modkills or a few other circumstances that suck.

Setup

Mason and Parity Cop vs Godfather goon and roleblocker

cop and jailkeeper vs Godfather, strongarm and role blocker

Jailkeeper and vigilante vs Godfather, Goon, Strongarm

All roles can be 1 shot 2 shot or will just say the rolename which means no limitations. This goes for mafia as well.

Your move HF. I should have never believed that cop would fit in the balance to begin with but I didn't think you would do something so silly as mafia.

Grackaroni

United States9855 Posts

August 12 2016 22:42 GMT

#1346

On August 13 2016 07:38 Holyflare wrote:
There's three mafia, try not to look for connections to me because they don't exist, find the other two mafia.

lol I'm putting my effort into making sure this doesn't end like that time Marv ignored me.

Grackaroni

United States9855 Posts

August 12 2016 22:58 GMT

#1351

On August 13 2016 07:52 Holyflare wrote:
And then you're implying that I claimed cop into a full setup of vig/jk as mafia

Yep. I don't doubt that you were afraid that there might be a cop and were trying to find him.

On August 10 2016 10:15 Holyflare wrote:
For real I am actually without a doubt claiming cop. GlowingBear is mafia.

I'm salty as fuck I didn't get jk'd btw.

I'm claiming because vivax has flipped miller so the likelihood of a framer is 0% and 2 millers would be pretty bull shit. I'm thinking it's prob gf/rb/mafia

I get counter claimed and you lynch me for 2 free mafia. Townies do not even thin abouy fake claiming to defend me.

The post itself even reeks of you trying to look good after you back out of the claim, why else would you put this in here if not to say, "I was just pulling a stunt! I warned you not to counterclaim!"

Grackaroni

United States9855 Posts

August 12 2016 23:01 GMT

#1353

Grackaroni to Shapelog. Grackaroni to Shapelog. The scum is squirming. I repeat, the scum is squirming. I need backup. Over.

Grackaroni

United States9855 Posts

August 12 2016 23:10 GMT

#1356

On August 13 2016 08:08 Shapelog wrote:
Do you want it with Mayo or Ketchup?

I've never actually had a burger with mayonnaise.

Grackaroni

United States9855 Posts

August 12 2016 23:23 GMT

#1359

Let's examine HF's mindset.

herp dee derp. It is me, Holyflare. I am the greatest town player of all times. Everyone has their pants on their head but me. la deee da.

Gasp! I'm the cop and I've been JK'd. Damdred has claimed vig? Oh my! I'm in a great position to get a check tomorrow after they kill Damdred! I think I'll just claim a red check on Glowingbear now ruining any discussion for the day. If GB is mafia I will surely be roleblocked, and I could probably just lynch him anyway and get a lot more information out of it. This way is totally superior, somehow. Oh my god! SL knows too much! what a ruse this was! I'm going to carry on with my GB lynch which can't possibly hit scum if my theory is correct, putting town in LYLO for the rest of the game, and get SL tomorrow. That will show those mafias.

OR

herp dee derp. It is me, Holyflare. I am the greatest mafia player of all times. Everyone has their pants on their head but me. la deee da.

Oh my Vivax was a miller! That must mean there is a cop! I know! I'll claim cop warning town not to counterclaim to protect me and then I'll be able to find the real cop through people's reactions throughout the day. Hue hue hue. What a clever plan this is!

Grackaroni

United States9855 Posts

August 12 2016 23:28 GMT

#1361

Glowingbear's point is valid. SL's first reaction was to believe the claim and try to distance himself from being GB's partner. This indicates that he actually believes that GB is mafia.

His later reaction was the double miller tin foil.

Grackaroni

United States9855 Posts

August 12 2016 23:32 GMT

#1363

On August 13 2016 08:31 Holyflare wrote:
Or mafia can just say whatever the fuck they want?

They can. But if you're arguing that he slipped I think the first reaction is more telling than the later one that you're trying to push as a slam dunk case.

Grackaroni

United States9855 Posts

August 12 2016 23:33 GMT

#1364

You also didn't answer why you thought it was a good idea to claim when Damdred set himself up as the night kill at the start of the day. In all likelihood the roleblock came from Tumblewood.

Grackaroni

United States9855 Posts

August 12 2016 23:41 GMT

#1367

Ok. I have a red check on HF.