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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
August 04 2016 19:21 GMT
#784
On August 03 2016 19:05 J Roc wrote:
Fucking auto login...

LOL
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
August 04 2016 19:25 GMT
#785
On August 03 2016 20:07 silentwarrior wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2016 20:00 Skynx wrote:
On August 03 2016 19:29 Rels wrote:
On August 03 2016 17:13 Skynx wrote:
Nice shit, after like 4 people saying how vigclaim is not the play here

I've been thinking about it and I think this is a really scummy reaction. In Skynx' mind, before the claim, I was the most likely scum in the game. The lynch today was basically me or silent, according to his list during the night. So me claiming is a fucking GOOD thing for him, as it makes him re evaluate and should push him in the right path instead of wasting time scumreading me.
But Skynx' reaction is the opposite. He is not happy with my claim because "this is not what we decided to do". This makes little sense when he should be happy that a claim showed him at least one of his read was wrong. I would agree that Celestial claiming would be a fucking waste for him: but me, a strong scumread, claiming should be nice for him.

I've been thinking about it and I think this is a really scummy reaction. If you're actually vigi, claiming before next EoN would make your claim undeniable, not right now.
What is pushing the "right" part in your opinion here? Grack flipped green so it clears Silent? You are confirmed town so only lynch now is Scott?


No, only lynch for me is lunatic. Also, claiming vig is the best thing for town right now. We get a confirmed town and we also might have a doctor, who will most likely protect Rels now. This is a very good position for town right now.

I wasn't even talking to you lol why so paranoid?
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
August 04 2016 19:29 GMT
#786
On August 03 2016 20:08 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2016 20:00 Skynx wrote:
On August 03 2016 19:29 Rels wrote:
On August 03 2016 17:13 Skynx wrote:
Nice shit, after like 4 people saying how vigclaim is not the play here

I've been thinking about it and I think this is a really scummy reaction. In Skynx' mind, before the claim, I was the most likely scum in the game. The lynch today was basically me or silent, according to his list during the night. So me claiming is a fucking GOOD thing for him, as it makes him re evaluate and should push him in the right path instead of wasting time scumreading me.
But Skynx' reaction is the opposite. He is not happy with my claim because "this is not what we decided to do". This makes little sense when he should be happy that a claim showed him at least one of his read was wrong. I would agree that Celestial claiming would be a fucking waste for him: but me, a strong scumread, claiming should be nice for him.

I've been thinking about it and I think this is a really scummy reaction. If you're actually vigi, claiming before next EoN would make your claim undeniable, not right now.
What is pushing the "right" part in your opinion here? Grack flipped green so it clears Silent? You are confirmed town so only lynch now is Scott?

I didn't claim right before deadline because I was sleeping.
I don't understand what you are saying in that second part of your post. What I'm saying is that you should be happy that I claim cause now you know that I'm town and you can push whoever you want, silent or scsott being the most logical that is true given your list. Nothing you've written addresses this.

I think you do understand second part of my post.
Rels: The lynch today was basically me or silent, according to his list during the night. So me claiming is a fucking GOOD thing for him, as it makes him re evaluate and should push him in the right path instead of wasting time scumreading me.

Skynx: What is pushing the "right" part in your opinion here? Grack flipped green so it clears Silent? You are confirmed town so only lynch now is Scott?

I was pretty clear, you say my lynch options are you/silent. You being confirmed town should 'push me into right path'. I dunno if you're defending silent by saying I should consider other options or just saying silent is the right path. I asked you to clarify but this is more suspicious now I think about it.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
August 04 2016 19:32 GMT
#787
On August 04 2016 17:45 Rels wrote:
Yeah Lunatic dude couldn't help but post every 30 seconds in the previous game, but can't be assed to post for days here. Mafia, or he has some IRL urgencies. Let's hope it's not the latter.

Or he took lessons from last game.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
August 04 2016 19:41 GMT
#789
On August 03 2016 07:28 silentwarrior wrote:
Ok, so I wanted to post my reads in case i get killed tonight. This will be mostly the people I left out from my previous big post.

Rels: At the start I got a town feeling from him. His push on mderg was imo credible and I don't think he should be faulted that it resulted in mislynch. Mderg looked scum there. But then he says he likes a list where he is listed as mafia. Not sure if he just missed it or simply liked the list without even reading it, but it is kind of strange. Especially since he is listed as the first mafia. For now he is null to me, and I think I need more to make a better assesment.


Townreading for mderg case (which is fair) and Rels is not at fault for mderg lynch.
Downgrades the townread cuz Rels liked my scumread on him (this is before vigclaim)
Overall null

I mean mderg lynch makes everyone voting for him suspicious straight away. Rels started the bandwagon, no matter how solid his case is, it is suspicious. Grack jumped on it without question, instantly scumread by all if he wasn't already.
If you have been following the game, you should find out that there is mafia in that train almost 100% of times. If you are town, Rels is town, grack also flipped, why are you not voting Scott instead of a nonfactor in this game?
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
August 04 2016 19:42 GMT
#790
Guys Lunatic is not the lynch here...

##Vote: Silentwarrior
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
August 04 2016 19:49 GMT
#795
D1 pattern:

silent pushes stutters > stutters is getting townread > people jump off scott train to silent train > Rels starts mderg train > their only interaction in game happens:
On August 02 2016 07:18 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2016 07:05 silentwarrior wrote:
Rels, what's your take on stutters and my case about him? I read yours on mderg and agree with most of what you wrote, but Stutter's is so blatantly mafia. Also, can others also comment on it?

These posts are townie:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2016 06:44 Stutters695 wrote:
On August 02 2016 01:51 mderg wrote:
On August 02 2016 00:29 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On August 01 2016 22:56 Skynx wrote:
Also Moosy how is KSC town is that a tone read?

Yes.

On August 01 2016 22:54 mderg wrote:
On August 01 2016 22:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On August 01 2016 22:05 mderg wrote:
On August 01 2016 21:39 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On August 01 2016 17:40 mderg wrote:
On August 01 2016 12:57 Grackaroni wrote:
[quote]
I think that mafia tends to play more subdued is a pretty standard idea that most players would accept. I'm not saying Race Bannon could never be mafia but lynching the guy who goes out of his way to spam the thread and pisses everybody off in the process is definitely not a good place to start if you want to hit mafia.

Silent made the first serious accusatory post of the game and put himself in the spotlight. I liked the post just because I think that Kelsier's non-contribution would look scummy to a newcomer, but the start of the game is the easiest time to "contribute". All I've gathered so far is that Kelsier seems annoyed from the state of the game and can't be assed to start playing. I don't really read Kelsier either way. Also I can disagree with a post's conclusions and still townread somebody for their post. Case in point, I don't really agree with your reads or any of the reasoning attached to them, but I'm still very thankful for something to comment on and will give a town read for it. It's magic!

As for my choice not to post my thoughts before getting other people's. Are you saying that I'm afraid of putting forth my own thoughts before seeing other people's or something else? I don't think that will be too much of an issue. Actually I think the reason I've come up here in the first place is that I've actually put out some of the more distinctive things.

My point here for Mderg is that he's pushed three slots that I feel are town slots. What kind of deception do you think I'm trying to slip under the radar here? Anyone can read his filter in 30 seconds and see whether he has posted about Race bannon or Scott.

I didn't push lunatic, I was just hoping my post would start some discussion while I'm away.

That makes it 2 "town slots" I've pushed. I really can't see what you like about either of them. I actually dislike scott's posts more than I did Race Bannon's (alignment wise).

explAin dood

Race Bannon simply posted gibberish which is obnoxious and annoying but not really alignment indicative.

scott made a list of people who had their vote on Race Bannon and took picked one of those to push. It doesn't take a town hero to call BTDT out on that. Then he gives town points to J Roc for having called out the same post by BTDT. He also liked silentwarrior's post regarding Kelsier which I didn't like for reasons already stated.
His thoughts so far seem superficial and lacking any sort of depth. And that's something I see as scummy, more so than one obviously bad post.

So do you think btdt's post was shit or good?

it was bad

So you're scumreading scott because he's scumreading btdt for making a shit post?

The scumread itself is not my issue with scott. I'll try to explain it again.

btdt's post basically had a big sign with "That's bad for town" attached to it. Scott scumread him for that,nothing wrong with that, though a bit superficial.
Then he also townread J Roc for voicing the same concerns about the post with the big sign. Calling out such a post is really not a reason for townreading somebody.
He also liked silentwarrior's post about Kelsier. Kelsier carrying a huge sign saying "anti town".

That's just way too superficial for me. There's no effort to really figure people out in there, just focusing on single posts with imo very little value. It's like he's following a simple line of seeing a obviouslybad post -> seeing people calling those posts out -> townreading those people. I'd expect a townie to put a bit more thought into it than that.


This post makes me much more in favor of a silent lynch over mderg now that I've read his filter

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On August 02 2016 06:48 Stutters695 wrote:
On August 02 2016 06:36 -Celestial- wrote:
EBWOP: I don't like silent as much as I did but I still think he's pretty scummy.

For clarification there, before someone decides to misrepresent me.

Out of curiosity, what did you see in his post that makes you less sure?

Before he was a plynch essentially, now he's someone I actively want to lynch.

So I'm not sure of anything on Stutters.

>silent votes mderg to survive
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
August 04 2016 19:50 GMT
#796
On August 05 2016 04:46 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2016 04:42 Skynx wrote:
Guys Lunatic is not the lynch here...

##Vote: Silentwarrior

No, Lunatic is the lynch

Okay since you are here, why is silent town? Why you defended him intentionally or unintentionally all game?
Take your time.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
August 04 2016 19:52 GMT
#797
Celestial, Moosy, Onegu come here we are about to lynch completely blind target don't let it happen, read 39-40 why he's not the best lynch.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
August 04 2016 20:01 GMT
#800
On August 05 2016 04:58 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2016 04:50 Skynx wrote:
On August 05 2016 04:46 Rels wrote:
On August 05 2016 04:42 Skynx wrote:
Guys Lunatic is not the lynch here...

##Vote: Silentwarrior

No, Lunatic is the lynch

Okay since you are here, why is silent town? Why you defended him intentionally or unintentionally all game?
Take your time.

I'm not sure he's town. But all of these are more likely to flip scum than silentwarrior:
Lunatic KSC Moosy

As to why silent might be town:
I can see his thoughts process in all his posts. Everything he says is logical. If you scumread him for activity, please the only other game he played on this website: he also played a low activity game with long posts. He made a huge case on someone just before end of night. That is something a townie is way more likely to do than scum.

I've been posting continuously for last hour or so on why silent is mafia and you say I wanna lycch him for activity...
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
August 04 2016 20:11 GMT
#802
On August 05 2016 05:09 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2016 05:01 Skynx wrote:
On August 05 2016 04:58 Rels wrote:
On August 05 2016 04:50 Skynx wrote:
On August 05 2016 04:46 Rels wrote:
On August 05 2016 04:42 Skynx wrote:
Guys Lunatic is not the lynch here...

##Vote: Silentwarrior

No, Lunatic is the lynch

Okay since you are here, why is silent town? Why you defended him intentionally or unintentionally all game?
Take your time.

I'm not sure he's town. But all of these are more likely to flip scum than silentwarrior:
Lunatic KSC Moosy

As to why silent might be town:
I can see his thoughts process in all his posts. Everything he says is logical. If you scumread him for activity, please the only other game he played on this website: he also played a low activity game with long posts. He made a huge case on someone just before end of night. That is something a townie is way more likely to do than scum.

I've been posting continuously for last hour or so on why silent is mafia and you say I wanna lycch him for activity...

The only other reason that I see are "silentwarrior voted mderg for no reason". Imagine if he was town in his postion: vote mderg and dion't get lynched; or don't vote mderg and get lynched. He would vote mderg.
Imagine if he was scum: vote mderg and dion't get lynched; or don't vote mderg and get lynched. He would vote mderg.
Basically it's not a reason to scumread silent.

There is also "Rels and silent defend each other but don't have any interaction with each other" wxhich mean you're still seeing this game through the "Rels might be scum" goggles which is fucking idiotic. But makes you town since mafia would KNOW I'm confirmed town and act like it unless they planned to counterclaim.

You post stuff and defend. It was a policy lynch with 2 hours to go. He was here, he just didn't do it.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
August 04 2016 20:18 GMT
#804
Well, I dunno how better i can explain without switching to french. You're never going to be convinced as far as I'm concerned.

Others, read 39-40. Read silent filter.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
August 04 2016 20:22 GMT
#807
Ahwell we'll go your way guys, maybe I'm too tunnelled again.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
August 04 2016 20:24 GMT
#808
Lemme ask this tho:
If Luna flips red what happens? If Luna flips green what happens?
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
August 04 2016 20:30 GMT
#814
On August 05 2016 05:24 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2016 05:22 Skynx wrote:
Ahwell we'll go your way guys, maybe I'm too tunnelled again.

Just type the damn words. Discuss with me please.
silent voting mderg to survive is not scum indicative. Do you have another reason to scumread him ?

I think it is scum indicative, I said why, you said you don't understand to the exact reason i stated.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
August 04 2016 20:34 GMT
#819
Celest who you wanna lynch? Lunatic won't flip scum.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
August 04 2016 20:35 GMT
#821
On August 05 2016 05:31 KelsierSC wrote:
Haven't read game. Might do it later

Do you actually play mafia at all or just join games to be afk forever and eventually get lynced/nk'd D3 without doing anything?
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
August 04 2016 20:36 GMT
#823
Can we shennanie KSC/btdt? You said they have equal chances with Luna, Rels. I'm happy with one of Scott/btdt/KSC.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
August 04 2016 20:38 GMT
#826
On August 05 2016 05:36 Rels wrote:
Skynx why are you sure Lunatic won't flip scum ?

Cuz you guys say he changed since last game, thats the only argument. While he hasn't, he's same Lunatic who can't make sense no matter how hard he tries but he just toned down the amount of nonesense and getting scumread off of it.
The very nonesense you guys claim that makes him mafia is exact reason why he is town.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
August 04 2016 20:39 GMT
#828
I gotta go soon so whatever, if town decides so Lunatic it is.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
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