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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 22 2016 15:01 GMT
#1227
I dunno I think we need a little more info, and I'm getting a little lost haha
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 22 2016 15:04 GMT
#1228
My thoughts are way too unorganized, I'll have to go back and clean up that mess afterwards.

But question: what made it so pressing to kill palmar over killing a blue claim?
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 22 2016 15:07 GMT
#1229
Rels really needs to come in here and have a most stimulating conversation. If he's town, I think maybe we go for tumble, but we still have a lot of time to uncover new stuff.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 22 2016 16:05 GMT
#1232
On July 23 2016 00:59 Lunaticman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2016 23:45 Skynx wrote:
I was gona make a desperate case on you but cba. This is the best way. Decide between me and Koshi folks.


Man this is hard. jesus.

I am honestly still in chock from night 1.

Tbh I think out of you two my feeling is that Koshi is more scum. But we would probably get more information if you got lynched.

So hard...


Talk to me luatic, why do you think we get more info from Skynx lynch?
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 22 2016 16:48 GMT
#1236
On July 23 2016 01:31 Rels wrote:
I have some good news for me, but bad for the game. I have a surprise weekend in the wild so I won't be here all weekend. Given that I was almost lynched yesterday that means that I could be lynched because of that today but I can't do anything about it. If I don't die before that I'll be back Monday.
Not available right now but I'll be there in a few hours to read the thread & comment, after that I'll be gone.

Well good news if you're scum, bad news if you're town.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 22 2016 17:20 GMT
#1239
On July 23 2016 02:01 prplhz wrote:
Kruppe the Eel is just jail keeper for now.

Koshi did a lot of work yesterday, both making cases and trying to steer town in the right direction. I already said that it would be weird of him to antagonize a town Palmar if he was just going to kill him anyway. I also think he's a good night kill so lynching him on d2 seems silly. Lets lynch him in LYLO or something, okay?

Skynx is going (or trying to go) 1v1 against a confirmed unlynchable townie. I assume scum isn't in a desperate nigh unwinnable situation after the mislynch so I don't think this is a hail mary scum strategy.

I'm fairly town?

Lunaticman is a lunatic but probably also town.

Palmar, nnn_thekushmountains, both pretty green according to Race Bannon's cases.

I'm going to go ahead and call sicklucker town too for now. We had the same thoughts about Kruppe the Eel's claim. I'm sure he's gonna come in here and say "I would do this as scum too" and "You would shoot as vigilante too" because that's very sickluckerish, but whatever.

That leaves:

Rels, Tumblewood, Grackaroni, emperorchampion, DCWasabi.

So I'm just going to read into those people at some point.


Can you expand a little more your thoughts on the palmar/koshi antagonize thing?
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 22 2016 18:11 GMT
#1251
On July 23 2016 02:57 Grackaroni wrote:
The only thing that sticks out to me from Palmar is that he was one of the few suspicious of Tumblewood. It's either because of that or the scum team is just bad.


I think the only way Palmar kill is good is if koshi is scum. But koshi really seems like town, and I agree that he should be off the table for d2 in any case. One other thought is that they could have thought that maybe palmar is blue since he was playing a little trolly earlier on.

I think the best thing we can do right now is to establish towny-ness, I think scum hunting comes second at the moment. Right now scum really need to take out our cop role, and likely their rollblock will be tied up with kruppe, so if we get a good enough town circle with 1 or 2 cop checks we can roll them over pretty easy.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 22 2016 18:14 GMT
#1254
@hosts: can strongarm "break out of prison" or only get past protection to someone in prison?
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 22 2016 18:18 GMT
#1255
On July 23 2016 03:13 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2016 03:11 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 23 2016 02:57 Grackaroni wrote:
The only thing that sticks out to me from Palmar is that he was one of the few suspicious of Tumblewood. It's either because of that or the scum team is just bad.


I think the only way Palmar kill is good is if koshi is scum. But koshi really seems like town, and I agree that he should be off the table for d2 in any case. One other thought is that they could have thought that maybe palmar is blue since he was playing a little trolly earlier on.

I think the best thing we can do right now is to establish towny-ness, I think scum hunting comes second at the moment. Right now scum really need to take out our cop role, and likely their rollblock will be tied up with kruppe, so if we get a good enough town circle with 1 or 2 cop checks we can roll them over pretty easy.

I don't see the logic of it. Palmar was townreading Koshi. Scumhunting is how we will establish ourselves as town.


For the palmar kill: I don't see any reason to kill palmar over koshi, but maybe scum have a different idea of things.

I mean, yeah I guess so. I think there are other ways of establishing townie-ness (meta or whatever) though. I guess I'm just more concerned with getting a good town circle the definitely killing a scum today.

Also grack: assume that myself, koshi, kruppe, lunatic and dc are all green, who is scum to you?
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 22 2016 18:19 GMT
#1256
On July 23 2016 03:14 Skynx wrote:
Think about it this way. Palmar and kush are two incredibly good analytical players. They are both eliminated and some people have no problem with this.


In retrospect I'm so sad about the kush kill , we really need DC to step up
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 22 2016 18:26 GMT
#1259
On July 23 2016 03:22 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2016 03:18 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 23 2016 03:13 Grackaroni wrote:
On July 23 2016 03:11 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 23 2016 02:57 Grackaroni wrote:
The only thing that sticks out to me from Palmar is that he was one of the few suspicious of Tumblewood. It's either because of that or the scum team is just bad.


I think the only way Palmar kill is good is if koshi is scum. But koshi really seems like town, and I agree that he should be off the table for d2 in any case. One other thought is that they could have thought that maybe palmar is blue since he was playing a little trolly earlier on.

I think the best thing we can do right now is to establish towny-ness, I think scum hunting comes second at the moment. Right now scum really need to take out our cop role, and likely their rollblock will be tied up with kruppe, so if we get a good enough town circle with 1 or 2 cop checks we can roll them over pretty easy.

I don't see the logic of it. Palmar was townreading Koshi. Scumhunting is how we will establish ourselves as town.


For the palmar kill: I don't see any reason to kill palmar over koshi, but maybe scum have a different idea of things.

I mean, yeah I guess so. I think there are other ways of establishing townie-ness (meta or whatever) though. I guess I'm just more concerned with getting a good town circle the definitely killing a scum today.

Also grack: assume that myself, koshi, kruppe, lunatic and dc are all green, who is scum to you?

Why am I making this assumption? I think that would leave a scumteam of SL/Rels/Tumblewood. But this is tentative. I'm going to be here for a while making a thorough reread of this game. I'm going to make sure the day 2 lynch hits scum since my day 1 lynch did not.


Why do you have rels/tumble on the same team?
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 22 2016 18:30 GMT
#1262
I feel like rels tumble is a pretty unlikely pairing, so it's a bit odd that you put them together that's all.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 22 2016 18:35 GMT
#1264
I look forward to your thoughts from the re-read!
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 22 2016 18:39 GMT
#1266
Take your time, I'm gonna be out for a bit
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 22 2016 21:29 GMT
#1382
On July 23 2016 03:44 Lunaticman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2016 03:36 Grackaroni wrote:
Heh I'm slow. I'm still making my way through the start of the current day. And I'm refreshing this page all the time too.


I want the lynch today to be someone of these three:

10) Tumblewood
11) Kruppe the eel
12) Koshi

I am positive there is at least one scum among them.

It feels like Skynx and Koshie are town. I had Tumble down as town too. Kruppe is an enigma too me.

I don't have time to do any deep analysis for until tomorrow though.


Why do you want to lynch a blue?
Why do you want to lynch koshi, who you think is town?
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 22 2016 21:34 GMT
#1385
On July 23 2016 03:57 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2016 03:14 emperorchampion wrote:
@hosts: can strongarm "break out of prison" or only get past protection to someone in prison?


please use green text for questions. As for the question the strong can shoot through the jail but if he is rb by the jk he loses that ability for the night and shots aren't refunded


oh yeah my bad, thanks!
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 22 2016 21:40 GMT
#1390
On July 23 2016 04:43 Rels wrote:
The reasonning is simple.
Tumble tunneled me the last game we played together. We were both town. He had a thoughtful reasonning as to why I was scum, but he was super wrong. Nevertheless he tunneled me and lost the game when mafia piled the votes on me.
He said post game he was going to work on his tunnel.
But he's doing the opposite this game. He's tunneling me so much this game that he's scumreading Koshi uniquely because "Rels is scum". Apart from that he gave 0 reason as to why I'm scum.
Scum scum scum


I dunno this is really reaching, no?
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 22 2016 21:53 GMT
#1398
On July 23 2016 05:35 sicklucker wrote:
its not really a great thing to go off if your not one of those people on that list. Because its not 100%. Like people here have played with palmar. tumble might have made that kill too everyone tells him how great palmar is. Theres probably a few im missing too.

But there is quite a few people who wouldnt it just means one of us are leading them.

Now its more interesting for me because I know im town. And im quite sure koshis town. so for me it does mean something because I have more information then you and it says the sucm team most likely rels/grack. (tumble is not much of a leader but its possible just not very likely same for others)


Who do you think could be third with rels/grack team?
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 22 2016 22:42 GMT
#1419
On July 23 2016 07:10 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
The rels lynch is not Kruppe-approved.

Kruppe will read a little tomorrow! His last meal for certain.


Can you make your rels read crystal clear kruppe?
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 22 2016 22:43 GMT
#1420
On July 23 2016 07:42 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2016 07:10 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
The rels lynch is not Kruppe-approved.

Kruppe will read a little tomorrow! His last meal for certain.


Can you make your rels read crystal clear kruppe?


Like why are you so certain that he is town? Would be of greatest help!!
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