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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 22 2016 13:37 GMT
#1165
We should leave Kruppe for now I think

If we get the mafia goon, then more or less confirm that it was a fake claim also. Maybe in some of the spam of the last few pages it was discussed that if he's jailkeep that means there could be a vigilante (50/50 odds). Since he lead people to believe that he was cop of some sort, if there was a vig then they might have shot. Therefore, it makes his jailkeep claim a little more dubious. This is something to keep in mind as we progress with maybe some kills or more info.

Also, I don't think we should counter-claim since I think we can figure it out regardless, but maybe someone with more experience can give some opinion.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 22 2016 13:40 GMT
#1167
Also, people remember that there is instant majority, so laying a few votes can turn to a lynch VERY quickly, and a slip up like that is gonna be reaaaallllly bad.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 22 2016 13:46 GMT
#1170
On July 22 2016 22:38 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2016 03:53 Palmar wrote:
yes, I don't remember a single post by him so he should be added to the list of 5.

Like can we all sort of agree on that list?

Skynx
Kush
Krupp
Tumble
Rels

We're lynching in here, right?

Like... I think most mafia are in here and decided to kill Palmar due to this list.

Tumble Skynx Rels.


Krupp is confirmed blue unless CC.


I forgot about this list. If the blue claim is fake, then yes I pretty much agree with it, otherwise seems too neat.

One thing about Tumble: maybe he really doesn't like playing as scum, I didn't get that feeling too much when playing with him, but he seems to be pretty disinterested this game. So I had this thought that he could only be scum with Kruppe maybe since it's kinda like playing with the trolly Moosy like in presidential.

In my mind, Rels could likely be mafia at the moment.

One other thing is that I'm worried that you could be mafia, and this is a very legitimate thing to push if so =/
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 22 2016 13:51 GMT
#1172
For now, my vote lies against Rels in spirit, if not in actuality.

Also, I'm still pretty salty that Kruppe has been scum reading me this entire time
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 22 2016 13:57 GMT
#1175
On July 22 2016 22:51 Lunaticman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2016 22:38 Koshi wrote:
On July 22 2016 03:53 Palmar wrote:
yes, I don't remember a single post by him so he should be added to the list of 5.

Like can we all sort of agree on that list?

Skynx
Kush
Krupp
Tumble
Rels

We're lynching in here, right?

Like... I think most mafia are in here and decided to kill Palmar due to this list.

Tumble Skynx Rels.


Krupp is confirmed blue unless CC.


Yes I was thinking the same thing, but isn't that what they want us to believe? I mean either your assumption is correct or we should inverse the list and look there instead.


Night kills are always wifom yeah. Personally I have other reasons to suspect that it could be Rels so it makes sense to look there at the moment.

Palmar feels a bit like a wifom kill, but I think it's also a fear kill. I guess we should ask ourselves who would be afraid of Palmar if it's fear?
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 22 2016 14:01 GMT
#1178
On July 22 2016 23:00 Koshi wrote:
oh 1 more thing. I think DCW played very townie when he came back to the thread. agree?


Agreed! I don't think you say those things to deflect heat as mafia, seemed too personal.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 22 2016 14:02 GMT
#1179
BTW, hope everything is OK DC
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 22 2016 14:03 GMT
#1180
I dunno I'm probably a terrible mafia player because of this, but I kind of have a code of honour lol. I like to think that people would not make such excuses for being absent and such.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 22 2016 14:13 GMT
#1181
I think maybe Skynx and Rels should be the lynches on the table right now. Skynx I thought was very town, but it seems like a lot of people had their doubts about him, so I will certainly reconsider as well.

Seems like there is probably 1 scum in Skynx/Koshi atm?
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 22 2016 14:22 GMT
#1186
On July 22 2016 23:20 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2016 23:19 Skynx wrote:
On July 22 2016 20:29 sicklucker wrote:
???? this is standard stuff relax 1 for 1 trades are awesome . lynching power roles day one is not

What do you mean by 1 for 1? Claims are given way too much respect I don't like it, emperor escaped a lynch in onegu game due to vet claim. Fake claims do happen. Tumble is not a good target for JK, he only targetted emperor and rels all game, both defended pretty ok.

Day 1 went perfect for mafia if thats what you mean yeah.


Mayhaps Kruppe did not intend to save Tumblewood.


Are there other reasons for jailing people
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 22 2016 14:25 GMT
#1189
On July 22 2016 23:23 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2016 23:22 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 22 2016 23:20 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
On July 22 2016 23:19 Skynx wrote:
On July 22 2016 20:29 sicklucker wrote:
???? this is standard stuff relax 1 for 1 trades are awesome . lynching power roles day one is not

What do you mean by 1 for 1? Claims are given way too much respect I don't like it, emperor escaped a lynch in onegu game due to vet claim. Fake claims do happen. Tumble is not a good target for JK, he only targetted emperor and rels all game, both defended pretty ok.

Day 1 went perfect for mafia if thats what you mean yeah.


Mayhaps Kruppe did not intend to save Tumblewood.


Are there other reasons for jailing people

yes. It prevents nks.


So... to save him right. Kruppe plz answer!
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 22 2016 14:28 GMT
#1196
On July 22 2016 23:25 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2016 22:55 Koshi wrote:
On July 22 2016 21:30 Skynx wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
You guys have to understand one thing about Koshi. His votes never come out of nowhere. There is always some deep analysis behind them.

His kush vote came exactly out of nothing. Absolutely nothing. Koshi never does that.
His only interaction with kush in this game: he tells him to read my filter.

This is his opinion on kush, the only one.
On July 21 2016 23:24 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 23:20 Grackaroni wrote:
I still think Kush has a good chance of being mafia, but it's pretty clear by now that nobody else thinks so and I don't think there's much I can do about that.

Kush changed his playstyle. If he is looking at the right place he shouldn't be lynched until he shows face.


Then grack starts the train.
On July 22 2016 06:12 Koshi wrote:
meh. It is possible.

On July 22 2016 06:12 Koshi wrote:
##Vote: Kushm4sta


He always always shows his opinion on why people are scum or should be lynched.
On July 22 2016 06:36 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2016 06:34 Rels wrote:
On July 22 2016 06:33 Koshi wrote:
Rels you got meta on DCW?

No.
I'm not even 100% convinced he's scum. But he's the more likely to flip scum.

Why is Kush town?

He never says why kush is mafia to start with. Instead he defends his vote this way. This is not how he plays, never.

On July 22 2016 06:51 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2016 06:49 DCWasabi wrote:
Why are people even trying to lynch me?

I have posted honestly and tried to figure things out, tho it isn't easy and I was pretty damn active early on/

Well if Kush isn't mafia and you aren't mafia, then mafia are the people that people don't like lynching even though they are not being top town. aka Palmar and sl etc

There are also other stuff.

To answer the case on me.

I agree the lynch was terrible. I failed on the Kruppe read once more and was looking for a better lynch. Kush was presented and I went w.e.

I think I made a horrible mistake thinking both Tumble and Skynx are town. I still hope Skynx is town though. But this case is pretty opportunistic. But maybe it had to be made.

I will still be looking to solve the game. So your option to read me are:
a) mafia trying to lead town to the wrong path. Using good/decent arguments throughout the game.
b) town trying to lead town to the right path. Using good/decent arguments throughout the game.

alas I totally admit I was wrong on both Kruppe and Kush.

That's a sly line. If you're not town reading me for pointing out crucial mistakes from a town pillar I don't know what makes me town. This is not you Koshi.
I had a solid D1, both kush and Palmar were my townreads and I pushed agaisnt kush lynch when it was still in discussion. I had no reason to townread kush when the only main argument on why he's scum, by Grack was based on tone and I pushed grack for it.

Now I only have to figure out who are your teammates.


This seems very hasty. Having kush and palmar as town is really no town credit at all, since they were both at least somewhat ambiguous. More leans towards TMI for me.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 22 2016 14:30 GMT
#1200
Ah that makes a lot of sense, totally forgot about that part of jk'er
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 22 2016 14:33 GMT
#1205
what is this shit from both of you? It's either tvt or svs for sure.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 22 2016 14:43 GMT
#1216
On July 22 2016 06:56 Damdred wrote:
Day 1 Votecount

Kruppe the Eel(1): Koshi, PrplhzGrackaroni, Skynx, Sicklucker
DCWasabi(3): Rels, Skynx, emperorchampion, Lunaticman
Rels (2): Prplhz, emperorchampion, Palmar, Lunaticma Tumblewood, prphlz
Skynx(1): Kruppe the Eel, Palmar
emperorchampion (1): Lunaticman, Tumblewood
Sicklucker(1):: nnn_thekushmountains
Palmar(0):: Lunaticman
Lunaticman(0): Skynx
nnn_thekushmountains (5): [Grackaroni, Palmar Grackaroni, koshi, palmar, sicklucker, Dcwasabi

Not voting (0):
Deadline is in on Thursday, Jul 21 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)


Currently kush is set to be lynched with five votes. if anything is wrong please pm your local mod support


So if we go with DC as green and koshi as green, then we have probably at least 1 scum in Grack/sicklucker.

That would mean 1-2 scum in Tumble / prpl / rels skynx

lunatic probably green

let me think some more on this
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 22 2016 14:45 GMT
#1219
If rels is green there is probably at least 1 scum in tumble/prpl
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 22 2016 14:47 GMT
#1223
if skynx is green then actually, there probably is 2 scum in koshi/grack/sicklucker, and 1 scum in rels/tumble/prpl
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 22 2016 14:49 GMT
#1224
On July 22 2016 23:45 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2016 23:43 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 22 2016 06:56 Damdred wrote:
Day 1 Votecount

Kruppe the Eel(1): Koshi, PrplhzGrackaroni, Skynx, Sicklucker
DCWasabi(3): Rels, Skynx, emperorchampion, Lunaticman
Rels (2): Prplhz, emperorchampion, Palmar, Lunaticma Tumblewood, prphlz
Skynx(1): Kruppe the Eel, Palmar
emperorchampion (1): Lunaticman, Tumblewood
Sicklucker(1):: nnn_thekushmountains
Palmar(0):: Lunaticman
Lunaticman(0): Skynx
nnn_thekushmountains (5): [Grackaroni, Palmar Grackaroni, koshi, palmar, sicklucker, Dcwasabi

Not voting (0):
Deadline is in on Thursday, Jul 21 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)


Currently kush is set to be lynched with five votes. if anything is wrong please pm your local mod support


So if we go with DC as green and koshi as green, then we have probably at least 1 scum in Grack/sicklucker.

That would mean 1-2 scum in Tumble / prpl / rels skynx

lunatic probably green

let me think some more on this

I don't think there was any incentive for mafia to jump to or create the Kush wagon. So don't assume mafia showed face. The only thing you can assume is that mafia tends to spread out a bit. It's what mafia does.


That's what I'm thinking. I think DC being scum would reveal itself later on since if we catch people that hopped or refused to join his bus as scum then he is probably scum as well. But for now I'm working on the assumption he is town.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 22 2016 14:53 GMT
#1225
I'm almost certain there is 1 scum between rels/tumble, and probably not 2.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 22 2016 14:57 GMT
#1226
If you're both town, we have rels/tumble/prpl/sl/grack

Out of those, I think tumble/prpl are most likely mafia.

Oh yeah, most 1 mafia out of prpl/rels most likely
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