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People I am willing to vote atm:
rels, kush, sicklucker, kruppe
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On July 22 2016 00:45 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 00:41 emperorchampion wrote:On July 22 2016 00:36 prplhz wrote:
Just start stacking votes on Rels and see where it leads.
Pros: He's scum
Cons: Maybe he's town but then we'll figure out something else
But seriously, we need this to go somewhere other than 6 different directions and Rels could absolutely be scum. So start stacking votes on him. I think i agree with this the most  I actually forgot rels is in the game and I'll join in with prplhz's cause.
How can you forget, he made a decent number of posts earlier in the (irl) day?
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Hmm OK, let me put my vote in the vote-randomizer and see what comes out...
##vote Palmar
Whoa, that's crazy!
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On July 22 2016 01:11 Koshi wrote:http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/511409-onegu-is-the-best-host-mafia?user=Kruppe the EelYou see? I don't even have to read till the end of his first page to see he is advancing the game in his own style. Which was pretty fun when I read it. This game? Nothing. It is not blind luck. He is way more underwhelming than his last game. He was one of the first to see Vivax was town and Snickers mafia in that game. DISCLAIMER: I actually do not know if Kruppe was town in that game.
Yeah he was town.
At the same time, we don't really know if he's advancing this game or not. For instance he also was heavy on the ksc lynch train last game, who ended up being town.
And here he is one of the first to cast suspicion on rels, which seems to be a popular thing.
I dunno the more I think about it, the less I want to lynch him. Also I like playing with kruppe , so by this I would prefer to lynch sicklucker over kruppe
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On July 22 2016 01:23 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 01:19 emperorchampion wrote:On July 22 2016 01:11 Koshi wrote:http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/511409-onegu-is-the-best-host-mafia?user=Kruppe the EelYou see? I don't even have to read till the end of his first page to see he is advancing the game in his own style. Which was pretty fun when I read it. This game? Nothing. It is not blind luck. He is way more underwhelming than his last game. He was one of the first to see Vivax was town and Snickers mafia in that game. DISCLAIMER: I actually do not know if Kruppe was town in that game. Yeah he was town. At the same time, we don't really know if he's advancing this game or not. For instance he also was heavy on the ksc lynch train last game, who ended up being town. And here he is one of the first to cast suspicion on rels, which seems to be a popular thing. I dunno the more I think about it, the less I want to lynch him. Also I like playing with kruppe , so by this I would prefer to lynch sicklucker over kruppe He didn't cast any suspicion on Rels. It was 4 names and Rels was one of them. But he didn't redirect town towards rels AT ALL. He is playing very obviously less pro town than that last game. He is not pushing town towards the right direction and he is just sitting there roleplaying. There is really no reason to leave him alive. Except if you find a person who is likely more mafia than him atm. Which could be Rels.
You're probably right, I just have a hard time accepting it 
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Re-read on Rels:
On July 20 2016 19:47 Rels wrote:
Something needs to be said right now.
We won't ever use the majority vote to end the day early. Barring things like a red check or a fakeclaim ofc.
Longer day is almost always a good thing. More time to solve the game, more time to hear what lynch candidates have to say, no risk of snap lynching a scummy townie that is just AFK.
If you're against that speak now then STFU forever.
This is a good point, but just free townie points I suppose.
On July 20 2016 19:58 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 19:53 Lunaticman wrote:On July 20 2016 19:49 Rels wrote:On July 20 2016 19:44 Lunaticman wrote:On July 20 2016 19:40 Rels wrote:On July 20 2016 19:38 Lunaticman wrote:This post is beyond me, are you saying someone is cheating? No. How much IRL mafia did you play ? About 20 games, with around 8-16 players per game. We usually only played with the standard roles with some flavour such as Medic and Sheriff. But basically vanila mafia. Each game might have lasted around 8 hours per playthrough. I would consider myself an very vocal player but also guilable. Many games have been one or lost because of people spending to much time analyzing my actions. As I always say to myself the silent mafia is the worst mafia... but I digress since this seems very different. How did you play as scum ? I don't think it would be more than subtile differences tbh between me as a townie or mafia, the biggest thing I would say is that as mafia I would probably spend more time analzying the voting tenendcies before speaking. I would also probably try to spend time "mudding the water" raising suspicion on several players at once. I don't think I want to reveal more than that otherwise I would spoil the fun. Usually when I am mafia I make a critical misstake sometimes later in the week but they can be missed... I also have a tenendcy to change play between playthroughs just to not get to predictable. And you if I may ask? How do you play? Why would revealing more about yourself would "spoil the fun" ? I am an active player as either alignment. As town I have the most success finding scum by finding inconsistency in what they say. As scum I try to replicate that to destroy lynchbait.
Haven't really seen either this game I think.
On July 20 2016 20:39 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 20:29 Lunaticman wrote:
Rels since no one else seems to be active right now maybe you could help me explain a bit about the roles.
"Mason and Parity Cop vs Godfather goon and roleblocker
cop and jailkeeper vs Godfather, strongarm and role blocker
Jailkeeper and vigilante vs Godfather, Goon, Strongarm"
I do not recognize the jailkeeper, strong arm and godfather.
Jailkeeper protects a person each night, like a doctor. The difference is that he also roleblocks his target. If his target is a cop for example, the cop will be protected but won't be able to check someone that night. If the jailkeeper target is a mafia killing someone, his target won't be able to carry the kill (IE no mafia kill will happen). Strongarm: during the night, the mafia can kill one person. If their target is protected, the kill won't happen. BUT the strongarm can make it so that the kill will bypass protection. Godfather: a cop can check a person each night to learn his alignment: town or mafia. A godfather will return "town" to a cop acheck.
This kinda thing could fall under the posting to seem like contributing, but not really contributing anything banner.
On July 21 2016 20:28 Rels wrote:
Lunatic is very townie for a newbie. Always questioning stuff posted in the thread + posting when there are silence in the thread to give boost to the game. It doesn't seem like it but it actually is hard to continually post as scum, so it's a towntell that he's doing these in his first forum mafia game.
I like this post.
On July 21 2016 20:54 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 04:15 Palmar wrote:On July 21 2016 04:02 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 04:01 Palmar wrote:On July 21 2016 03:57 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:53 emperorchampion wrote:On July 21 2016 03:45 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:34 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 03:27 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:23 Skynx wrote:
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Without ever rolling town he doesn't know how to be town its simple. Even he does exact opposite of what he did its forced and noticeable. Based on this I'm putting down my vote for now on EC. Even if he turns green you will be the next auto lynch. Or rather a blue should check you during the night to save a lynch target. I will change the vote if someone comes up with a better argument for a d1 lynch. What does emperors alignment has anything to do with mine? I haven't even read him yet. Also you say what i just said is convincing enough for you to vote on ec. But i didn't say anything new or something related to his specific behaviour here. So, thats kind of a shitty vote. Why is he mafia? I think it was a good argument, and votes generate friction, which generates more content. I am totally fine voting for someone if I think the argument is good enough especially on day 1. What I find confusing is why you would demote your own arugment, that is very strange. I actually think he is fighting for his life as a townie, but the day is far from over. I dunno if this makes sense. Why would you vote for a town person? Also I am far from fighting for my life. I am "defending" my self from tumble because his arguments are so weak, they are leading me to think that he might be scum. Voting for people is a common tactic this generates pressure which generates misstakes, you can switch your vote anytime unless I am missing something. Go forth and make mistakes my friend Maybe you should give us a list of our reads so far and some thoughts. You have been chilling far to much. ok. 100% town - aka never lynching.Prplhz Skynx Likely town:Tumblewood emperorchampion Rels Null, no reason to lynch but no real reason to townreadPalmar DCWasabi Koshi Gracaroni null, possibly scum because I haven't really noticed themnnn_thekushmountains Lunaticman Scummy/possibly mafiasicklucker Kruppe the eel Why are SL / Kruppe scummy when they have done nothing at all ?
On July 21 2016 21:02 Rels wrote:
Alright meeting time, see you in a few hours (= please answer my question if I've asked you one earlier. My mind atm:
Town
Lunatic
Skynx
EC
Tumble
Palmar
Scum
Koshi
Kruppe
DC
People missing are null.
His town list seems a little at odds, notably the Palmar inclusion. Seems like he's raising some questions about Palmar's town list, but then has him as town. Seems a little odd.
Also I've pointed out the thing about his comments on DC, and how he ignored the second post. I think the town thing and palmar + the thing about missing DC's post are the things that I find most off.
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Kruppe if you could explain a bit more your vote on skynx that would be good Is it just because he wants to plynch you, or is it because you find his actual posting scummy?
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On July 22 2016 02:44 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 00:42 prplhz wrote:
Koshi isn't mafia and you have no idea what nnn_thekushmountains is.
Also, I'm the vigilante so you're lying about being the parity cop. How does this conflict?
You of all people should know, you started a post chain about it!
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Also at what point do we just lynch palmar for trolling and not making any sense =/
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I feel like he could be godfather. It kinda makes sense to me, sorta what I was trying to do last game.
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On July 22 2016 03:18 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 01:19 emperorchampion wrote:On July 22 2016 01:11 Koshi wrote:http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/511409-onegu-is-the-best-host-mafia?user=Kruppe the EelYou see? I don't even have to read till the end of his first page to see he is advancing the game in his own style. Which was pretty fun when I read it. This game? Nothing. It is not blind luck. He is way more underwhelming than his last game. He was one of the first to see Vivax was town and Snickers mafia in that game. DISCLAIMER: I actually do not know if Kruppe was town in that game. Yeah he was town. At the same time, we don't really know if he's advancing this game or not. For instance he also was heavy on the ksc lynch train last game, who ended up being town. And here he is one of the first to cast suspicion on rels, which seems to be a popular thing. I dunno the more I think about it, the less I want to lynch him. Also I like playing with kruppe , so by this I would prefer to lynch sicklucker over kruppe you really dont like me do you
No dislike, just think kruppe is funnier
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On July 22 2016 03:10 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 02:47 emperorchampion wrote:On July 22 2016 02:44 Lunaticman wrote:On July 22 2016 00:42 prplhz wrote:
Koshi isn't mafia and you have no idea what nnn_thekushmountains is.
Also, I'm the vigilante so you're lying about being the parity cop. How does this conflict? You of all people should know, you started a post chain about it! Maybe I was unclear, I was thinking about the Vigilante versus parity cop. Does one exclude the other or are they the same thing? I was confused by the statement. I mean is he lying because he claimed cop?
Sigh, it's because of the game setup. One setup has parity cop the other has vigilante, but not both together
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sorry sl will be 100% nicer in the future
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tbh I'm not a big fan of the afk through day 1, but it's nice that you are showing up this game
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On July 22 2016 03:28 sicklucker wrote:
I dont think anyone really claimed except lunatic might have claimed vt lul
hahaha
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I guarncheese he will come in here and deny that statement
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On July 22 2016 03:32 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 02:55 Koshi wrote:On July 22 2016 02:49 emperorchampion wrote:
Also at what point do we just lynch palmar for trolling and not making any sense =/ When there is disconnect between his scumhunting posts or he proven is plain wrong. example. He had Rels as town before and Kruppe mafia, but now he is lynching Rels and saying Kruppe is a 100% crapshoot. Why? Kruppe is a crapshot, but as always with policy lynches, there exists a reason to play like he does as mafia, and none as town, so technically he should objectively be mafia. On the other hand, trolls rarely care if they're playing anti town so whatever. Also, bro. I'm not joking, the list post was literally me randomizing the people in the game and adding some categories headers. I think my own name is in one of the null categories. It's 100% bullshit and should be treated as such.
Either you are highlighting some serious flaws with everyone in this game right now, or you are lying. And I'm honestly not sure which. Probably it's true that RNG has the same reading capabilities as 13 humans.
OK, so then what was the motivation for your initial vote on lunatic?
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deadline is 3hrs, votes are a mess. I'm feeling OK since rels has yet to show up which seems pretty scummy and at the same time not OK since I don't know if anyone has really defended him at all.
Kruppe's post about rels was kind of wierd, like I feel a bit like he could have been trying to save him by saying "oh I scum read him for this initially, but now I don't see it". But at the same time, I think it would be a good oppourtunity for mafia to take credit if rels does flip red. So I dunno how I feel about that overall.
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On July 22 2016 03:41 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 03:39 emperorchampion wrote:On July 22 2016 03:32 Palmar wrote:On July 22 2016 02:55 Koshi wrote:On July 22 2016 02:49 emperorchampion wrote:
Also at what point do we just lynch palmar for trolling and not making any sense =/ When there is disconnect between his scumhunting posts or he proven is plain wrong. example. He had Rels as town before and Kruppe mafia, but now he is lynching Rels and saying Kruppe is a 100% crapshoot. Why? Kruppe is a crapshot, but as always with policy lynches, there exists a reason to play like he does as mafia, and none as town, so technically he should objectively be mafia. On the other hand, trolls rarely care if they're playing anti town so whatever. Also, bro. I'm not joking, the list post was literally me randomizing the people in the game and adding some categories headers. I think my own name is in one of the null categories. It's 100% bullshit and should be treated as such. Either you are highlighting some serious flaws with everyone in this game right now, or you are lying. And I'm honestly not sure which. Probably it's true that RNG has the same reading capabilities as 13 humans. OK, so then what was the motivation for your initial vote on lunatic? Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 04:01 Palmar wrote:On July 21 2016 03:57 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:53 emperorchampion wrote:On July 21 2016 03:45 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:34 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 03:27 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:23 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 03:20 Tumblewood wrote:
and I don't get how ec can be scum three games in a row, then act the exact same way the next game and notbe scumread Without ever rolling town he doesn't know how to be town its simple. Even he does exact opposite of what he did its forced and noticeable. Based on this I'm putting down my vote for now on EC. Even if he turns green you will be the next auto lynch. Or rather a blue should check you during the night to save a lynch target. I will change the vote if someone comes up with a better argument for a d1 lynch. What does emperors alignment has anything to do with mine? I haven't even read him yet. Also you say what i just said is convincing enough for you to vote on ec. But i didn't say anything new or something related to his specific behaviour here. So, thats kind of a shitty vote. Why is he mafia? I think it was a good argument, and votes generate friction, which generates more content. I am totally fine voting for someone if I think the argument is good enough especially on day 1. What I find confusing is why you would demote your own arugment, that is very strange. I actually think he is fighting for his life as a townie, but the day is far from over. I dunno if this makes sense. Why would you vote for a town person? Also I am far from fighting for my life. I am "defending" my self from tumble because his arguments are so weak, they are leading me to think that he might be scum. Voting for people is a common tactic this generates pressure which generates misstakes, you can switch your vote anytime unless I am missing something. Go forth and make mistakes my friend I thought his post about trying to force people to make mistakes by voting them was dumb in a fun way, so I voted him "to try to get him to make mistakes". ie: I voted him to troll his reasoning.
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sl seems pretty town over the last page
DC has become a bit of a wildcard, could be an OK vote at this point
prpl I think is town for now
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