On July 20 2016 21:41 Lunaticman wrote: Well I think rels is blue based on his posts so far. One mafia usually goes active in the beginning but I dont really have any scum vibes yet.
There is probably a 50/50 red or green on both of you so far.
And what do you think about me so far?
I was ehh kind of uncertain on luna until he made this post. this is about the exact opposite of what a mafia would post if they were trying to blend in / sound town. scrubtell?
On July 20 2016 20:29 Lunaticman wrote: Rels since no one else seems to be active right now maybe you could help me explain a bit about the roles.
"Mason and Parity Cop vs Godfather goon and roleblocker
cop and jailkeeper vs Godfather, strongarm and role blocker
Jailkeeper and vigilante vs Godfather, Goon, Strongarm"
I do not recognize the jailkeeper, strong arm and godfather.
Call somebody blue / bluehunted + is self-aware + Show Spoiler +
On July 20 2016 21:41 Lunaticman wrote: Well I think rels is blue based on his posts so far. One mafia usually goes active in the beginning but I dont really have any scum vibes yet.
There is probably a 50/50 red or green on both of you so far.
And what do you think about me so far?
Do "serious" scumhunting on a matter that was put forward as a joke. Bit too hard-try + Show Spoiler +
On July 20 2016 20:17 Lunaticman wrote: I was expecting emperorchampion to be very active in the beginning since I spectated the last game played (the one with hilary and trump). Maybe he changed his playstyle or maybe he simply asleep.
What do you think Rels?
And lastly it maybe seems like he is trusting people too much and tries to buddy them.
That all said I don't scumread you. It's just something I saw . Game is young.
ehh not sure what to make of this post. it's weird, but townies are weird too. idk, townreading koshi blindly seems to be working for me so far.
How can it be the exact opposite? I was answering a question I don't find it suspicious at all.
On July 20 2016 23:23 Skynx wrote: Man Koshi might use his new behaviour to his advantage if he's scum If he's not calling anyone bad how we gona know he's town?
A change in behaviour when you have an established meta which has been called is only advantagous to change when you have a new role.
This should mean he is either blue or green? (since he was red last game?)
On July 20 2016 22:08 emperorchampion wrote: koshi I disagree with the set-up point: I think mafai wants to pm the mods or ask in QT versus discuss it in thread. Seems way too brazen to me
No. Mafia tends to do it in the thread because it is a post with a lot of words that puts them in the center of attention without any risk.
Do you see how he used way more words than needed?
Doesn't make him mafia. But I have seen mafia do it just like that.
Hmm there were a lot more words than necessary, but I don't agree with it not being risky. It just screams "hey these rolls are important to me", and I can't see a blue asking for clarification in thread ever.
I dunno, I guess on one hand to me it seems risky for mafia to post that in the thread, and on the other hand I think a vt just isn't really thinking about those things at the moment.
You are to cynical, I would have asked as either alignment because Im new
I left the "newbie out" when I made my post (literally deleted a sentence from my post before posting about "or he's just new so it could mean nothing"), since I was interested in seeing where he would go with it. Yes he's new, but at the same time he's also mentioned having obs'd a few games and I'm sure has read through all the guides and such. But at the same time it's lunatic's first game and he just wanted some clarification on things.
I have to equal and opposite thoughts about it: (a) townie just isn't thinking about these things right now (what the roles are, how they will affect things)---mafia leaning; and (b) mafia doesn't want to show that they're thinking about what the roles will do in the night---town leaning point. All this to say that it amounts as a null-point at the moment, but I will def return to thinking about this in the future as the game shapes up.
2) koshi has really backed off in many respects since palmar threw some shade on him/his post. Now there can be many reasons, and i don't really want to speculate too much on this atm so it's more of an observation.
I can follow your reasoning and I can honestly say its just a regular question, I like your reasoning though.
The 2 point is spot on, I don't know what it means though
On July 20 2016 23:26 Tumblewood wrote: actually no luna's one post is not enough to balance out his previous posting. he's been posting but hardly playing all game. that definitely warrants a scumlean in my book. (this also applies to ec) also if luna is scum I guess koshi isn't partners because why make a scum case and not go for the cred? shitty mafia move.
I have no idea how you are thinking, what do you mean hardly playing?
Koshi is not my partner although he does remind me of myself. I have him as townie atm.
On July 20 2016 23:26 Tumblewood wrote: actually no luna's one post is not enough to balance out his previous posting. he's been posting but hardly playing all game. that definitely warrants a scumlean in my book. (this also applies to ec) also if luna is scum I guess koshi isn't partners because why make a scum case and not go for the cred? shitty mafia move.
Actually I've been playing the game a lot, so what's your scum lean based off of?
when I say "posting but not playing" I mean you and luna are making a lot of posts but hardly working toward solving the game.
That makes sense but I leave the solving to more qualified players this game. Maybe you can enlighten us with some quality information?
On July 20 2016 23:23 Skynx wrote: Man Koshi might use his new behaviour to his advantage if he's scum If he's not calling anyone bad how we gona know he's town?
A change in behaviour when you have an established meta which has been called is only advantagous to change when you have a new role.
This should mean he is either blue or green? (since he was red last game?)
No. It should mean he can be happy with bad townies making stupid lynches but we can't instantly scumread him for that cuz he said he's gona be calm.
I still think the change in behaviour indicates he is a townie for now.
On July 20 2016 23:26 Tumblewood wrote: actually no luna's one post is not enough to balance out his previous posting. he's been posting but hardly playing all game. that definitely warrants a scumlean in my book. (this also applies to ec) also if luna is scum I guess koshi isn't partners because why make a scum case and not go for the cred? shitty mafia move.
Actually I've been playing the game a lot, so what's your scum lean based off of?
when I say "posting but not playing" I mean you and luna are making a lot of posts but hardly working toward solving the game.
That makes sense but I leave the solving to more qualified players this game. Maybe you can enlighten us with some quality information?
What you're gona do in this game then?
I was being sarcastic, but apperantly it was undetectable.
On July 20 2016 23:26 Tumblewood wrote: actually no luna's one post is not enough to balance out his previous posting. he's been posting but hardly playing all game. that definitely warrants a scumlean in my book. (this also applies to ec) also if luna is scum I guess koshi isn't partners because why make a scum case and not go for the cred? shitty mafia move.
Actually I've been playing the game a lot, so what's your scum lean based off of?
when I say "posting but not playing" I mean you and luna are making a lot of posts but hardly working toward solving the game.
That makes sense but I leave the solving to more qualified players this game. Maybe you can enlighten us with some quality information?
... solving the game is a team effort man. everyone needs to work towards finding scum, mostly because it's easier to find scum when they're pretending to make reads. no enlightenment from me, just reads.
Yes but without information it's impossible to do it. I'd like to know what you think about the others players so far.
On July 20 2016 23:26 Tumblewood wrote: actually no luna's one post is not enough to balance out his previous posting. he's been posting but hardly playing all game. that definitely warrants a scumlean in my book. (this also applies to ec) also if luna is scum I guess koshi isn't partners because why make a scum case and not go for the cred? shitty mafia move.
Actually I've been playing the game a lot, so what's your scum lean based off of?
when I say "posting but not playing" I mean you and luna are making a lot of posts but hardly working toward solving the game.
But to be serious, this is such a weak point that makes me want to scum read you for making it, but I won't.
wifom question for everyone: Would tumble make this point to push me as mafia, when he made the same point in our game together as mafia? Or no connection?
I don't know but at least he is trying to get some information. it is a read only you can make.
On July 20 2016 23:45 Tumblewood wrote: luna can you be less hard to figure out? look at some gumshoe games for info on how to make your alignment really obvious. it would help me out greatly thank you
What do you mean gumshoe games?
I have hinted many times to my alignment and it is not that hard to figure out. I think you and I are on different levels atm.
On July 20 2016 23:26 Tumblewood wrote: actually no luna's one post is not enough to balance out his previous posting. he's been posting but hardly playing all game. that definitely warrants a scumlean in my book. (this also applies to ec) also if luna is scum I guess koshi isn't partners because why make a scum case and not go for the cred? shitty mafia move.
Actually I've been playing the game a lot, so what's your scum lean based off of?
when I say "posting but not playing" I mean you and luna are making a lot of posts but hardly working toward solving the game.
That makes sense but I leave the solving to more qualified players this game. Maybe you can enlighten us with some quality information?
... solving the game is a team effort man. everyone needs to work towards finding scum, mostly because it's easier to find scum when they're pretending to make reads. no enlightenment from me, just reads.
Yes but without information it's impossible to do it. I'd like to know what you think about the others players so far.
players I have an opinion on: you (scum lean but having doubts) ec (scum lean) koshi (association stuff with you) I think I was screaming gracka but I don't remember why so it probably isn't important
I like that you follow your instict, it serves players well in the endagame. I think Gracka is the most suspicious out of them. He claimed mason pretty much with another player and I asked about it but he didnt respond.
On July 20 2016 22:24 Koshi wrote: [quote] If you were town, do you think you would be good reading skynx?
pretty hard question. I know.
Hmm I think in the 1 game that I obs'd I found him pretty town. I think he would have a difficult time making the kind of posts he usually makes if he is mafia. I honestly have no idea how it will pan out though since as mafia I never really put a lot of effort into "reading" people. It's a little different, I was trying to find out what people responded well to. Skynx is one of the players that I'm not really sure on, since he seems more to just do his own thing (other player is kush, who I have no idea since he never posts his thoughts lol).
Could you give me your full view on him near EoD? I have this genious play to let skynx and you read each other and follow those reads.
pls remember because I will forget it.
I'll forget also, so paging skynx: please remember!
Also you're in big trouble if we're both mafai. Or are you trying to get me to tell you if you should bus your teammate?
sekret taktiks
I have one tactic: bus emperor or die trying.
This is quite a serious undertaking, what are you basing this on?
I have my reasons.
Well even if we did manage to lynch him and he turns up green or blue it would probably lead towards a lynch on you. So I do not know if it is smart making a strong claim like that on a hunch on day one. Unless you know something we dont.
ok, you have to remember I have no idea about your inside jokes since I haven't played in any other game. That is why I tried to clarify it and you just kept going. But I totally missed it yes.