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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 20 2016 15:41 GMT
#301
On the other hand, I want to town read you for having the balls to actually post something like that
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 20 2016 15:53 GMT
#306
On July 21 2016 00:50 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 00:36 emperorchampion wrote:
OK new fun time activity question: favourite way to drink coffee?

I'll start, mine is black

ec, this is the kind of stuff I'm talking about
you're making a lot of posts that don't further the game, which is definitely not a weak reason. also out of place because you make a big case on me and then go straight to "let's talk about coffee!"


Cause nobody posting, I'm just enjoying life
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 20 2016 15:58 GMT
#310
On July 21 2016 00:54 Koshi wrote:
1 milk and 2 sugars in a cup. And I never finish the cup because I dont like coffee. Still drink 3 unfinished cups a day.


On July 21 2016 00:54 Koshi wrote:
But only when I am at work. I never drink coffee when I am free.


Haha, I feel like this more than anything I have read, give a lot of insight to your character.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 20 2016 16:02 GMT
#313
Actually posting reads is probably a fine thing so I'll give some more of my thoughts:

liked:
6) Rels - had post that I quoted earlier, this is totally feels

OK:
12) Koshi - OK thoughts on lunatic, disappeared after palmar tho
3) Skynx - + for interactions, recently other people have been pointing out his one post of "what are other peoples' reads?" while not posting his own reads, that had kind of flown under my radar gives me a bit of a pause

half meh, half OK
4) Lunaticman - + for interactions, - for the thing earlier that is kinda normalizing my thoughts on the matter towards null
13) Palmar - entry was kind of weak (an attack on koshi). but to quote koshi, it was probably something that needed to be said to stop a 100,000% town read, so + for that

meh so far:
8) GrackAttack - I find his interactions have been pretty forced so far, this is pretty feelingsy tho
10) Tumblewood - not really making sense to me so far


nothing so far:
1) Prplhz
2) DCWasabi
11) Kruppe the eel - posted but didn't really say anything
7) sicklucker
9) nnn_thekushmountains
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 20 2016 16:04 GMT
#314
On July 21 2016 00:58 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
do i really have to read all this or is it all about coffee and tea and stuff?


Personally, I would read it all!
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 20 2016 16:07 GMT
#316
I was thinking to look more in depth, but I think the sentence that I posted sums it up pretty well actually.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 20 2016 16:08 GMT
#317
@damdred: Can you add the filters to the front page plz!
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 20 2016 16:18 GMT
#321
On July 21 2016 01:14 Lunaticman wrote:
There is a worrying amount of silent players


Hmm in a way yeah, but also people are busy in life, so I don't think too much about it atm. I'm not really sure what to make of inactivity yet. Generally I'm not a huge fan, since on a feels level it feels bad to lynch someone for being busy in real life. But on the other hand, I think mafia can have a difficult time joining in because they feel the pressure to always not be scum read for posting some random stuff.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 20 2016 16:59 GMT
#333
DC nice to see ya mate
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 20 2016 17:01 GMT
#334
On July 21 2016 01:57 Tumblewood wrote:
happy with voting Skynx or ec at the moment, slight preference to ec


L U L

please give your reasoning, other than you think it will be an easy mislynch you can back up with maymays
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 20 2016 17:06 GMT
#336
What do you think of my response of your question about Palmar's posting?
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 20 2016 17:10 GMT
#339
On July 21 2016 02:07 DCWasabi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2016 23:34 Tumblewood wrote:
On July 20 2016 23:28 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 20 2016 23:26 Tumblewood wrote:
actually no
luna's one post is not enough to balance out his previous posting. he's been posting but hardly playing all game. that definitely warrants a scumlean in my book. (this also applies to ec)
also if luna is scum I guess koshi isn't partners because why make a scum case and not go for the cred? shitty mafia move.


Actually I've been playing the game a lot, so what's your scum lean based off of?

when I say "posting but not playing" I mean you and luna are making a lot of posts but hardly working toward solving the game.


OK, but if there is one thing that I learned from my first 2 games, it is that it is pretty nontrivial to "work towards solving the game" on Day 1. I think the first thing that is useful that one can do is get some activity out there day 1, and get your tone established so that you can be more easily read as town by the town moving forwards. I think this is one of the things that I actually did properly as town in the Onegu Best Host Game.

Town should be trying to solve the game, but some of the players haven't even posted yet, for example it is 10am local time for me and I just woke-up 30 mins ago and am trying to get caught up.

I don't scumlean either of those guys yet, tbh.

At the same time, I kind of like this post by Tumble because it is the kind of thing that can help to start more meaningful discussion going and discourage people from posting random banter, otherwise they might get scum-read by this reasoning.

I am going to slightly town-lean Tumble because his post leads to a slightly more favorable environment for town.


In the same vein though, if we all start thinking about everything that we post will be scum read if it's a bit conversation-y then we are all now thinking like we are mafia (trust me on that one). I don't think that's a good place to go.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 20 2016 17:11 GMT
#341
On July 21 2016 02:08 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 02:06 emperorchampion wrote:
What do you think of my response of your question about Palmar's posting?

I don't see a response


On July 21 2016 01:07 emperorchampion wrote:
I was thinking to look more in depth, but I think the sentence that I posted sums it up pretty well actually.

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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 20 2016 17:12 GMT
#342
On July 21 2016 02:11 Tumblewood wrote:
also because no one seems to understand "posting without playing" I'll rephrase it to posting without a purpose.


what if the purpose is you're having fun by doing it?
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 20 2016 17:19 GMT
#346
On July 21 2016 02:15 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 02:11 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 21 2016 02:08 Tumblewood wrote:
On July 21 2016 02:06 emperorchampion wrote:
What do you think of my response of your question about Palmar's posting?

I don't see a response


On July 21 2016 01:07 emperorchampion wrote:
I was thinking to look more in depth, but I think the sentence that I posted sums it up pretty well actually.


I don't question your reasoning on Palmar, I question the fact that you have a read on a guy who played for all of 5 minutes before leaving.


What do you think my reasoning on kruppe vs my reasoning on Palmar?
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 20 2016 17:20 GMT
#347
On July 21 2016 02:19 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 02:15 Tumblewood wrote:
On July 21 2016 02:11 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 21 2016 02:08 Tumblewood wrote:
On July 21 2016 02:06 emperorchampion wrote:
What do you think of my response of your question about Palmar's posting?

I don't see a response


On July 21 2016 01:07 emperorchampion wrote:
I was thinking to look more in depth, but I think the sentence that I posted sums it up pretty well actually.


I don't question your reasoning on Palmar, I question the fact that you have a read on a guy who played for all of 5 minutes before leaving.


What do you think about my reasoning on kruppe vs my reasoning on Palmar?


EBWOP
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 20 2016 17:36 GMT
#355
On July 21 2016 02:25 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 02:19 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 21 2016 02:15 Tumblewood wrote:
On July 21 2016 02:11 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 21 2016 02:08 Tumblewood wrote:
On July 21 2016 02:06 emperorchampion wrote:
What do you think of my response of your question about Palmar's posting?

I don't see a response


On July 21 2016 01:07 emperorchampion wrote:
I was thinking to look more in depth, but I think the sentence that I posted sums it up pretty well actually.


I don't question your reasoning on Palmar, I question the fact that you have a read on a guy who played for all of 5 minutes before leaving.


What do you think my reasoning on kruppe vs my reasoning on Palmar?

afaik you put kruppe in the inactive null category. I can't imagine him being anywhere else. I'm surprised though that Palmar is a town lean and not in the inactive null category with him.


Kinda meh/kinda OK is not a town lean category.

I think that your reasons for scum reading me are exceptionally limited now. In terms of "posting with a purpose", it's arguably limited to the first few posts of this game, which is pretty lulz since that was my entry to this game.

To me, you either have some sort of idea of my "meta" in your head, and you went with it after reading a bit, or you are scum trying to push for a mislynch (a vote already?). The fact that you're still tunnelling the same point, and haven't given any other reasons is very dubious.

I can't trust you at all, and I reeally hope that you're not setting yourself up for an easy mislynch.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 20 2016 17:43 GMT
#356
On July 21 2016 02:22 DCWasabi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 02:10 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 21 2016 02:07 DCWasabi wrote:
On July 20 2016 23:34 Tumblewood wrote:
On July 20 2016 23:28 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 20 2016 23:26 Tumblewood wrote:
actually no
luna's one post is not enough to balance out his previous posting. he's been posting but hardly playing all game. that definitely warrants a scumlean in my book. (this also applies to ec)
also if luna is scum I guess koshi isn't partners because why make a scum case and not go for the cred? shitty mafia move.


Actually I've been playing the game a lot, so what's your scum lean based off of?

when I say "posting but not playing" I mean you and luna are making a lot of posts but hardly working toward solving the game.


OK, but if there is one thing that I learned from my first 2 games, it is that it is pretty nontrivial to "work towards solving the game" on Day 1. I think the first thing that is useful that one can do is get some activity out there day 1, and get your tone established so that you can be more easily read as town by the town moving forwards. I think this is one of the things that I actually did properly as town in the Onegu Best Host Game.

Town should be trying to solve the game, but some of the players haven't even posted yet, for example it is 10am local time for me and I just woke-up 30 mins ago and am trying to get caught up.

I don't scumlean either of those guys yet, tbh.

At the same time, I kind of like this post by Tumble because it is the kind of thing that can help to start more meaningful discussion going and discourage people from posting random banter, otherwise they might get scum-read by this reasoning.

I am going to slightly town-lean Tumble because his post leads to a slightly more favorable environment for town.


In the same vein though, if we all start thinking about everything that we post will be scum read if it's a bit conversation-y then we are all now thinking like we are mafia (trust me on that one). I don't think that's a good place to go.


Sure, if it is taken to the extreme.
But you can still have conversation and a light-hearted tone as long as you have good content and real posts that are aimed to move the game forward mixed in with the banter.
I don't see how you can argue that most posts being banter is good for the town?


Mmm not really arguing that more banter than content is good, just pointing out that I think the kind of atmosphere where people are afraid to post is a bad thing. Of course, either extreme is bad. Also a large part of me always wants to do more of the thing that people say I can't do.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 20 2016 17:55 GMT
#361
@kush: tell me your secrets for scum hunting! You seem to get 2 the first day every game
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 20 2016 17:59 GMT
#363
On July 21 2016 02:52 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 02:24 DCWasabi wrote:
On July 21 2016 02:21 Skynx wrote:
I gues you guys are scumreading me for "activity without actually contributin?" hehehe go ahead plots all being noted.


This is really unnecessarily defensive.

Why do you find the need to defend yourself right now?

You were not the main topic of the conversation.

This is unnecessary push. Defending yourself while you're not the main topic of conversation is not alignment indicative.
Also that wasn't a defence.


How so an unnecessary push? If you're scum it is certainly necessary!

Also, all this I think was started from a softpush by koshi, how do you feel about that guy?
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