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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
July 26 2016 17:25 GMT
#2541
On July 27 2016 01:45 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2016 01:42 prplhz wrote:
no because he thought emperorchampion was mafia by looking at his filter

he read him, he didn't check him

one of his accusations against sicklucker was that sicklucker refused to see in emperorchampion's filter than emperorchampion was town. that accusation makes no sense if Koshi thought emperorchampion looked scummy enough to warrant a lynch.

That really, really looks like an obvious breadcrumb though. 2 checks, 2 people at 0%. I will have to reread his filter to check how he treated them two to be sure but it seems super convincing

amazing how you didn't address anything i said
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
July 26 2016 17:36 GMT
#2542
On July 27 2016 02:07 Rels wrote:
I'm caught up.
prp I'm pretty convinced you're scum. You have some time to convince me otherwise (unless another terrible dude hammer again today). Not gonna vote you until I reread your filter but this is what I have in mind. I think you are scum because:
  1. Koshi died, when before deadline he tunneled you hardcore for a short period of time, before going on sicklucker. I think if sicklucker had managed to prove his innocence he would have gone back to you.
  2. related to the above, you hammered sicklucker. Hammering is retarded, ESPECIALLY since sicklucker never had the chance to defend himself from the cases against him. Hammering after hearing sicklucker's defense and not believing it is kinda retarded too but less so; but you hammered him before he could speak, several hours before deadline. It's very possible you feared he would come back and prove his townieness, and the lynch would switch to you or your partner; hence the hammer.
  3. I remember a post from you in particular when you were on Tumblewood D2 where you were kinda on him but trying to lynch someone else. This is partner indicative; sitting on your partner to gain towncred in case he's lynched, but trying to save him because it's better if he doesn't die. I think Koshi had a good post about that during D3.
  4. when under pressure a few hours ago, you said you were going to hammer yourself, before going back on your word. There is no town motivation to do that. If you're dead, we have a fair chance to lose the game with all our blues being dead already. This looks like a bluff to make him seem like you're town to me.

eh okay this case is really bad generally you just make the wrong conclusions for what appears to be no reason

gonna wait until you read my filter before responding but overall

1) koshi dying n3 means nothing
2) this narrative is retarded
3) talked about this already
4) hmm okay
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
July 26 2016 17:37 GMT
#2543
4) is literally "town has no reason to do this so you're scum doing it to look town" lol
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
July 26 2016 17:42 GMT
#2544
i'll tell you the name of my scum buddy if you can tell me why i hammered sicklucker.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 26 2016 17:45 GMT
#2545
So Luna doesn't have to vote, Koshi doesn't expose his checks, you make obv scum move Luna tunnels you today and rides the towncred to victory?
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
July 26 2016 17:51 GMT
#2546
On July 27 2016 02:45 Skynx wrote:
So Luna doesn't have to vote, Koshi doesn't expose his checks, you make obv scum move Luna tunnels you today and rides the towncred to victory?

Lunaticman doesn't have to vote what?

Koshi was last cop in Debauchery and he didn't breadcrumb his checks in that game either.

Lunaticman literally just said that DCWasabi was scum over me. So that doesn't make a lot of sense but whatever.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 26 2016 17:53 GMT
#2547
On July 27 2016 00:42 Lunaticman wrote:
Fuck me I posted wrong again, I have to stop doing that.

On July 25 2016 21:21 Koshi wrote:
You can lynch sl, he can be red, easily, but my list is

prplhz
lunatic
dcw
sl
skynx


top is most mafia and if either dcw or sl flips mafia in the future the other one needs to be autolynch.


And the last thing Koshi koshi said was that it could be EC and skynx.

I think Skynx is trying to cash in on me before dying himself, there has to be at least one mafia on the grac train and there are only 2 players left from it.

The reason Rels and Grac probably isnt on that list is because he cop checked them. I am going to assume that this is his last will.

There is actually nothing else to say about this subject for once. It comes down to basic math.

And skynx the only thing you've been doing this entire game is calling me scum because I post honestly please stop it it is exhausting. It's harder to play as town ok

If you read Koshies filter he tried pushing me to see if I was mafia because it felt important. I think he realised I wasn't mafia so he let it go, you can see that he becomes more and more usure the more he thinks about it in his posts.

Also: There has to be at least one mafia in the Tumble train, I bet it is DC. I just can't bring myself to think EC/Haze is scummy atm.

Town:
Lunaticman

Probable town:
Rels Grac

50/50:
Haze
EC

Scummy:
DC

mafia:
Skynx

I made a semi case on you D1. Right now I can't find the words to ridicule your chances of being town without getting banned.
I analysed pretty much everyone in game at one point. Check that SL read of mine that you agreed, you are scum for doing the exact opposite of whats written there.

Just to point out since it popped into my mind, you've sheeped most of my scumreads including DC, Koshi, Grack. You also agreed on many pointers I've put out there, SL read being the most recent one. You are so ready to agree with me and the only reason you're scumreading me seems to be the fact that me and only me in this game have exposed you. Anytime I hard scumread you, you instantly scumread me back. Thats not how town works.

"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
July 26 2016 17:57 GMT
#2548
maybe Koshi breadcrumbed his checks this game, what do i know, it just wasn't that post you just pointed out because of how he accused sicklucker
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
July 26 2016 18:00 GMT
#2549
On July 27 2016 02:25 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2016 01:45 Rels wrote:
On July 27 2016 01:42 prplhz wrote:
no because he thought emperorchampion was mafia by looking at his filter

he read him, he didn't check him

one of his accusations against sicklucker was that sicklucker refused to see in emperorchampion's filter than emperorchampion was town. that accusation makes no sense if Koshi thought emperorchampion looked scummy enough to warrant a lynch.

That really, really looks like an obvious breadcrumb though. 2 checks, 2 people at 0%. I will have to reread his filter to check how he treated them two to be sure but it seems super convincing

amazing how you didn't address anything i said

You're right. I don't think Koshi had a cop check on EC; he was just really confident in his read. If he had a green check on EC then he wouldn't have wrote in that he's not 100% sure after the GF was already lynched.
On July 25 2016 00:53 Koshi wrote:
I don't think there is a snowball chance in hell EC is mafia. I have read his filter AGAIN. I am not 100% sure ofc but seriously..

These guys, should repeated after me: "EC is not mafia"




Show nested quote +
On July 24 2016 19:25 Skynx wrote:
Emperors last min was scummy aswell.


Show nested quote +
On July 24 2016 20:50 Lunaticman wrote:
On July 24 2016 20:26 sicklucker wrote:
emperor why did you vote one person in the vote thread and vote the other in the main thread with like 3 minutes before deadline?


There is a high probability, that SL and EC are scum.

Kruppes read was perfect, I think I will just wait for his reads and do what he says.



Show nested quote +
On July 24 2016 20:16 sicklucker wrote:
On July 24 2016 19:59 emperorchampion wrote:
There is probably 3 mafia on grack (maaaybe just 2). Almost certain that 1 of grack/sl is mafia, and grack is certainly town. I think we go sl for now.

I think cop only claims if they are about to be lynched or if the lynch target is checked green.


eh no we are both town im pretty sure I dont see how you can reach that conclusion if even I think that

##vote emperorchapion aka the guy lurking at the end waiting to see if he could save tumble



Especially it is beyond me that a vet like sicklucker doesn't see it.

Sicklucker, I would very kindly ask that you read EC his filter and give a definitive read on him. Because I know on of you 3 or maybe all 3 are trying to get him lynched and I don't understand why.

Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 26 2016 18:08 GMT
#2550
On July 27 2016 02:53 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2016 00:42 Lunaticman wrote:
Fuck me I posted wrong again, I have to stop doing that.

On July 25 2016 21:21 Koshi wrote:
You can lynch sl, he can be red, easily, but my list is

prplhz
lunatic
dcw
sl
skynx


top is most mafia and if either dcw or sl flips mafia in the future the other one needs to be autolynch.


And the last thing Koshi koshi said was that it could be EC and skynx.

I think Skynx is trying to cash in on me before dying himself, there has to be at least one mafia on the grac train and there are only 2 players left from it.

The reason Rels and Grac probably isnt on that list is because he cop checked them. I am going to assume that this is his last will.

There is actually nothing else to say about this subject for once. It comes down to basic math.

And skynx the only thing you've been doing this entire game is calling me scum because I post honestly please stop it it is exhausting. It's harder to play as town ok

If you read Koshies filter he tried pushing me to see if I was mafia because it felt important. I think he realised I wasn't mafia so he let it go, you can see that he becomes more and more usure the more he thinks about it in his posts.

Also: There has to be at least one mafia in the Tumble train, I bet it is DC. I just can't bring myself to think EC/Haze is scummy atm.

Town:
Lunaticman

Probable town:
Rels Grac

50/50:
Haze
EC

Scummy:
DC

mafia:
Skynx

I made a semi case on you D1. Right now I can't find the words to ridicule your chances of being town without getting banned.
I analysed pretty much everyone in game at one point. Check that SL read of mine that you agreed, you are scum for doing the exact opposite of whats written there.

Just to point out since it popped into my mind, you've sheeped most of my scumreads including DC, Koshi, Grack. You also agreed on many pointers I've put out there, SL read being the most recent one. You are so ready to agree with me and the only reason you're scumreading me seems to be the fact that me and only me in this game have exposed you. Anytime I hard scumread you, you instantly scumread me back. Thats not how town works.



So you don't believe there was a mafia on the grac train besides tumble? I do and I wont take the chance that there was one.

Besides, this game is outside both our hands it's just a shame your going all in on a townie.

Also I think I never used your reads a single time tbh because you were scum reading me since day one remember and I know I'm town which makes you look suspicious too me. I think I've been pretty specific when I've been using other players information.

There really is no point in you or me talking anymore because the game is set between us anyway. I think it's just a mater in which order we should be lynched. I think I made a pretty good case against you and you believe you made a good case against me. I think the town should just decide who die first.

The question really is what happens after we both die in that situation.

I have no issues with a 1v1 trade but two greens in a row is really bad.
Failure is not an option
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 26 2016 18:25 GMT
#2551
On July 27 2016 03:08 Lunaticman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2016 02:53 Skynx wrote:
On July 27 2016 00:42 Lunaticman wrote:
Fuck me I posted wrong again, I have to stop doing that.

On July 25 2016 21:21 Koshi wrote:
You can lynch sl, he can be red, easily, but my list is

prplhz
lunatic
dcw
sl
skynx


top is most mafia and if either dcw or sl flips mafia in the future the other one needs to be autolynch.


And the last thing Koshi koshi said was that it could be EC and skynx.

I think Skynx is trying to cash in on me before dying himself, there has to be at least one mafia on the grac train and there are only 2 players left from it.

The reason Rels and Grac probably isnt on that list is because he cop checked them. I am going to assume that this is his last will.

There is actually nothing else to say about this subject for once. It comes down to basic math.

And skynx the only thing you've been doing this entire game is calling me scum because I post honestly please stop it it is exhausting. It's harder to play as town ok

If you read Koshies filter he tried pushing me to see if I was mafia because it felt important. I think he realised I wasn't mafia so he let it go, you can see that he becomes more and more usure the more he thinks about it in his posts.

Also: There has to be at least one mafia in the Tumble train, I bet it is DC. I just can't bring myself to think EC/Haze is scummy atm.

Town:
Lunaticman

Probable town:
Rels Grac

50/50:
Haze
EC

Scummy:
DC

mafia:
Skynx

I made a semi case on you D1. Right now I can't find the words to ridicule your chances of being town without getting banned.
I analysed pretty much everyone in game at one point. Check that SL read of mine that you agreed, you are scum for doing the exact opposite of whats written there.

Just to point out since it popped into my mind, you've sheeped most of my scumreads including DC, Koshi, Grack. You also agreed on many pointers I've put out there, SL read being the most recent one. You are so ready to agree with me and the only reason you're scumreading me seems to be the fact that me and only me in this game have exposed you. Anytime I hard scumread you, you instantly scumread me back. Thats not how town works.



So you don't believe there was a mafia on the grac train besides tumble? I do and I wont take the chance that there was one.

Besides, this game is outside both our hands it's just a shame your going all in on a townie.

Also I think I never used your reads a single time tbh because you were scum reading me since day one remember and I know I'm town which makes you look suspicious too me. I think I've been pretty specific when I've been using other players information.

There really is no point in you or me talking anymore because the game is set between us anyway. I think it's just a mater in which order we should be lynched. I think I made a pretty good case against you and you believe you made a good case against me. I think the town should just decide who die first.

The question really is what happens after we both die in that situation.

I have no issues with a 1v1 trade but two greens in a row is really bad.

YOU
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
July 26 2016 18:27 GMT
#2552
On July 27 2016 02:07 Rels wrote:
I'm caught up.
prp I'm pretty convinced you're scum. You have some time to convince me otherwise (unless another terrible dude hammer again today). Not gonna vote you until I reread your filter but this is what I have in mind. I think you are scum because:
  1. Koshi died, when before deadline he tunneled you hardcore for a short period of time, before going on sicklucker. I think if sicklucker had managed to prove his innocence he would have gone back to you.
  2. related to the above, you hammered sicklucker. Hammering is retarded, ESPECIALLY since sicklucker never had the chance to defend himself from the cases against him. Hammering after hearing sicklucker's defense and not believing it is kinda retarded too but less so; but you hammered him before he could speak, several hours before deadline. It's very possible you feared he would come back and prove his townieness, and the lynch would switch to you or your partner; hence the hammer.
  3. I remember a post from you in particular when you were on Tumblewood D2 where you were kinda on him but trying to lynch someone else. This is partner indicative; sitting on your partner to gain towncred in case he's lynched, but trying to save him because it's better if he doesn't die. I think Koshi had a good post about that during D3.
  4. when under pressure a few hours ago, you said you were going to hammer yourself, before going back on your word. There is no town motivation to do that. If you're dead, we have a fair chance to lose the game with all our blues being dead already. This looks like a bluff to make him seem like you're town to me.

This case isn't nearly as convincing to me as your SL case yesterday. Points 1/4 are mostly just wifom. Prplhz's vote seems scummy in retrospect, but I think his story actually adds up.

On July 23 2016 02:01 prplhz wrote:
Kruppe the Eel is just jail keeper for now.

Koshi did a lot of work yesterday, both making cases and trying to steer town in the right direction. I already said that it would be weird of him to antagonize a town Palmar if he was just going to kill him anyway. I also think he's a good night kill so lynching him on d2 seems silly. Lets lynch him in LYLO or something, okay?

Skynx is going (or trying to go) 1v1 against a confirmed unlynchable townie. I assume scum isn't in a desperate nigh unwinnable situation after the mislynch so I don't think this is a hail mary scum strategy.

I'm fairly town?

Lunaticman is a lunatic but probably also town.

Palmar, nnn_thekushmountains, both pretty green according to Race Bannon's cases.

I'm going to go ahead and call sicklucker town too for now. We had the same thoughts about Kruppe the Eel's claim. I'm sure he's gonna come in here and say "I would do this as scum too" and "You would shoot as vigilante too" because that's very sickluckerish, but whatever.

That leaves:

Rels, Tumblewood, Grackaroni, emperorchampion, DCWasabi.

So I'm just going to read into those people at some point.

On July 23 2016 06:42 prplhz wrote:
this game would be so much easier if it was Tumblewood & DCWasabi & Grackaroni or something like that

On July 24 2016 06:50 prplhz wrote:
i think tumble is a 5 and grack is at 4

It's not too odd that he made a switch when he wasn't strongly favoring TW over DCW to begin with. And there's nothing prplhz said that would have prevented him from making a switch on to me if he really wanted to save TW. Prplhz would look bad if Tumblewood eventually got lynched, but I think he could have made the switch if he was already putting that much effort into saving TW by putting out a case on DCW.

Point number two is pretty good. I think mafia would want the day to be over before Koshi changes his vote again when SL is getting lynched. But hammering isn't strange for Prplhz. Look at day 2.

On July 24 2016 00:42 prplhz wrote:
Tumblewood at 5 votes.

1 more and it's hammer and goodbye and silence.



Lunatic's story of trying to lay a trap for the mafia by encouraging wagons on Koshi/TW and then wanting to kill SL for not voting TW seems more suspicious to me.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
July 26 2016 19:34 GMT
#2553
if emperorchampion and DCWasabi are scum, we're gonna lose? right?
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Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 26 2016 19:35 GMT
#2554
Yes
Failure is not an option
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 26 2016 19:47 GMT
#2555
I dunno I think I'm ready guys, hammer and all. I haven't seen anything to convince me that luna/prpl are not scum.

Hope I'm not being seriously out played here

You wanna do luna first?
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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
July 26 2016 19:48 GMT
#2556
On July 27 2016 04:47 emperorchampion wrote:
I dunno I think I'm ready guys, hammer and all. I haven't seen anything to convince me that luna/prpl are not scum.

Hope I'm not being seriously out played here

You wanna do luna first?

Yeah I think Luna is the lynch today.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
July 26 2016 19:50 GMT
#2557
We should probably wait for Rels to come back though.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 26 2016 19:51 GMT
#2558
okey dokey!
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
July 26 2016 19:54 GMT
#2559
there

i can bluff about being the last vote on me but not about being the first vote on me

not lynching Lunaticman in a million years
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Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
July 26 2016 19:55 GMT
#2560
Day 3's awesome vote count!



Lunaticman (1): Skynx. Grackaroni
Skynx(1): Lunaticman, Lunaticman
Prphlz(1): Emperorchampion, DCwasabi, Prphlz
Dcwasabi(0) Lunaticman

Not-Voting(4) Rels, Emperorchampion, DCwasabi, Grackaroni



Currently, Lunaticman, will be lynched at the end of day. With 7 alive, it takes 4 to insta-lynch.
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