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On July 26 2016 23:22 Grackaroni wrote: Coloring vote counts turns out to be way harder to do than I ever knew, so I'm just going to go with a summary. I don't have time to do that now, but I will do it tonight at some point. Vote analysis is so much easier with colored flips.
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On July 25 2016 23:00 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2016 22:55 Lunaticman wrote: is there any particular reason why koshi and grac are playing like conjoined twins? If 2 people play exactly the same over a long period and not in the endgame it is almost always that they are both town. Never are they both mafia. Sometimes it is a mafia riding in the ass of the townie. But that can be deducted. Anyway. Can you do the % thing? Like this ↓ 1) Prplhz 75% 2) DCWasabi 75% 3) Skynx 50% 4) Lunaticman 60% 5) emperorchampion 0% 6) Rels 25% 7) sicklucker 60% 8) Gracaroni 0% 12) Koshi Maybe you are not mafia. ##unvote ##vote Prplhz This might have been the breadcrumb. I think he was the only one who was absolutely certain EC couldn't be mafia, at the very least.
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On July 27 2016 01:39 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2016 01:38 Rels wrote:On July 26 2016 23:07 emperorchampion wrote: To be clear: let's not hammer until end of day. Unfortunately, this is going to be pretty difficult, since majority is 4, and there are 2 scum. That means 2 votes on someone is potential hammer so we should be a bit careful here. 100% Hammering is fucking stupid. That is why prp needs to explain exactly why he hammered yesterday. there's really nothing i could say that i didn't say already gotta admit i didn't expect you guys to freak out so much over it though can you just give some reads because the thread has completely stalled waiting for you I'm catching up so you will have to wait a bit. What did you "say already" ? The only thing I remember was "I don't wanna wait" or something like that.
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no because he thought emperorchampion was mafia by looking at his filter
he read him, he didn't check him
one of his accusations against sicklucker was that sicklucker refused to see in emperorchampion's filter than emperorchampion was town. that accusation makes no sense if Koshi thought emperorchampion looked scummy enough to warrant a lynch.
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refused to see in emperorchampion's filter that emperorchampion was town*
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On July 27 2016 01:40 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2016 23:00 Koshi wrote:On July 25 2016 22:55 Lunaticman wrote: is there any particular reason why koshi and grac are playing like conjoined twins? If 2 people play exactly the same over a long period and not in the endgame it is almost always that they are both town. Never are they both mafia. Sometimes it is a mafia riding in the ass of the townie. But that can be deducted. Anyway. Can you do the % thing? Like this ↓ 1) Prplhz 75% 2) DCWasabi 75% 3) Skynx 50% 4) Lunaticman 60% 5) emperorchampion 0% 6) Rels 25% 7) sicklucker 60% 8) Gracaroni 0% 12) Koshi Maybe you are not mafia. ##unvote ##vote Prplhz This might have been the breadcrumb. I think he was the only one who was absolutely certain EC couldn't be mafia, at the very least.
That leaves:
Rels, EC and Grac as the super townies I suppose?
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On July 27 2016 01:40 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2016 23:00 Koshi wrote:On July 25 2016 22:55 Lunaticman wrote: is there any particular reason why koshi and grac are playing like conjoined twins? If 2 people play exactly the same over a long period and not in the endgame it is almost always that they are both town. Never are they both mafia. Sometimes it is a mafia riding in the ass of the townie. But that can be deducted. Anyway. Can you do the % thing? Like this ↓ 1) Prplhz 75% 2) DCWasabi 75% 3) Skynx 50% 4) Lunaticman 60% 5) emperorchampion 0% 6) Rels 25% 7) sicklucker 60% 8) Gracaroni 0% 12) Koshi Maybe you are not mafia. ##unvote ##vote Prplhz This might have been the breadcrumb. I think he was the only one who was absolutely certain EC couldn't be mafia, at the very least. OMG I remember that list, I remember very clearly thinking "Why the fuck am I not at 0% with Grac and EC when he's townreading us 3" at the time. 100% they are the green checks Super nice find
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BECAUSE THEY ARE RANDOM NUMBERS
THAT POST WAS MADE WHEN HE TOWNREAD BOTH ME AND DCWASABI AND WE ARE BOTH AT 75%
THAT POST DOESN'T REFLECT HIS READS
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On July 27 2016 01:42 prplhz wrote: no because he thought emperorchampion was mafia by looking at his filter
he read him, he didn't check him
one of his accusations against sicklucker was that sicklucker refused to see in emperorchampion's filter than emperorchampion was town. that accusation makes no sense if Koshi thought emperorchampion looked scummy enough to warrant a lynch. That really, really looks like an obvious breadcrumb though. 2 checks, 2 people at 0%. I will have to reread his filter to check how he treated them two to be sure but it seems super convincing
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On July 26 2016 23:28 prplhz wrote: this is leading nowhere town needs more flips so i will hammer myself if i get the chance What is your motivation behind that post ?
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looked scummy enough to warrant a check**************
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On July 27 2016 00:13 emperorchampion wrote: I can't believe that I didn't piece together that koshi was cop yesterday, especially when he was posting about everybody needing to do the reads thing, since I had the exact same thought at the end of day 2 that we all need to post reads in order to hide our cop in the future since silent nights. His day 1 check was grack (really good check btw lol), and I was probably his day 2 check (likely due to the last minute vote). I know his day 1 check was grack because after grack posted about only towny people voting for tumble (great post btw), koshi switched there as well. He put 2 people as 0% mafia on his last list, grack and I. I am writing this part first to convince you that I'm town and not trying to deceive you at all in this. We should treat both grack and I confirmed town here. LOL Grac you totally stole that from EC. p:
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On July 27 2016 01:49 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2016 00:13 emperorchampion wrote: I can't believe that I didn't piece together that koshi was cop yesterday, especially when he was posting about everybody needing to do the reads thing, since I had the exact same thought at the end of day 2 that we all need to post reads in order to hide our cop in the future since silent nights. His day 1 check was grack (really good check btw lol), and I was probably his day 2 check (likely due to the last minute vote). I know his day 1 check was grack because after grack posted about only towny people voting for tumble (great post btw), koshi switched there as well. He put 2 people as 0% mafia on his last list, grack and I. I am writing this part first to convince you that I'm town and not trying to deceive you at all in this. We should treat both grack and I confirmed town here. LOL Grac you totally stole that from EC. p: Shhhhh.
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prp can you answer my questions: You said you couldn't explain your hammer more than you did already, but where did you justify yourself already ? What is the thought process behind hammering yourself ?
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On July 27 2016 01:51 Rels wrote: prp can you answer my questions: You said you couldn't explain your hammer more than you did already, but where did you justify yourself already ? What is the thought process behind hammering yourself ? i can't imagine any honest answer i could give to either of these questions that would be useful to you
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I'm caught up. prp I'm pretty convinced you're scum. You have some time to convince me otherwise (unless another terrible dude hammer again today). Not gonna vote you until I reread your filter but this is what I have in mind. I think you are scum because:
- Koshi died, when before deadline he tunneled you hardcore for a short period of time, before going on sicklucker. I think if sicklucker had managed to prove his innocence he would have gone back to you.
- related to the above, you hammered sicklucker. Hammering is retarded, ESPECIALLY since sicklucker never had the chance to defend himself from the cases against him. Hammering after hearing sicklucker's defense and not believing it is kinda retarded too but less so; but you hammered him before he could speak, several hours before deadline. It's very possible you feared he would come back and prove his townieness, and the lynch would switch to you or your partner; hence the hammer.
- I remember a post from you in particular when you were on Tumblewood D2 where you were kinda on him but trying to lynch someone else. This is partner indicative; sitting on your partner to gain towncred in case he's lynched, but trying to save him because it's better if he doesn't die. I think Koshi had a good post about that during D3.
- when under pressure a few hours ago, you said you were going to hammer yourself, before going back on your word. There is no town motivation to do that. If you're dead, we have a fair chance to lose the game with all our blues being dead already. This looks like a bluff to make him seem like you're town to me.
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On July 27 2016 01:55 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2016 01:51 Rels wrote: prp can you answer my questions: You said you couldn't explain your hammer more than you did already, but where did you justify yourself already ? What is the thought process behind hammering yourself ? i can't imagine any honest answer i could give to either of these questions that would be useful to you If you're town, you did these retarded actions with an honest mindset. Describe what you felt at the time you did them.
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Now I'm going home, so I'll be AFK for a few hours. I'll see what you have to say tonight. See you later folks (=
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Koshi I recant my previous statement, you did post your town reads thank you.
So EC and Grac. (and rels I suppose) if you three just lynch everyone else. And it comes down too it Rels we should win.
Am I wrong in this assumption?
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Day 3's awesome vote count!
Lunaticman (1): Skynx Skynx(1): Lunaticman, Lunaticman Prphlz(0): Emperorchampion, DCwasabi Dcwasabi(0) Lunaticman
Not-Voting(5) Rels, Prphlz, Emperorchampion, DCwasabi, Gracknoia
Currently, Lunaticman, will be lynched at the end of day. With 7 alive, it takes 4 to insta-lynch.
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