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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 22 2016 17:24 GMT
#92
/in

I'm proud supporter of Genghis khan politics
Also pls roll me town Genghis khan country has no QT
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 23 2016 20:12 GMT
#121
There is a rl mafia game going on in banlist thread lol
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 23 2016 20:13 GMT
#122
I didn't wanna pop in there cuz they stopped arguing but its pure gold
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 24 2016 20:30 GMT
#142
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 24 2016 21:04 GMT
#151
Me too.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 24 2016 21:07 GMT
#153
Even tho having no QT sucks i so wanted to roll mafia this game cuz all the possible Allahu Akbar mechanics.
Shame
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 24 2016 21:08 GMT
#155
How you doing Super? How was work
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 24 2016 21:09 GMT
#156
On June 25 2016 06:08 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2016 06:07 Skynx wrote:
Even tho having no QT sucks i so wanted to roll mafia this game cuz all the possible Allahu Akbar mechanics.
Shame


Such as? What was a plan you had as mafia?

Use my charm to get that bodyguard role to sneak a remote under mayors car.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 24 2016 21:10 GMT
#160
2 hours in traffic today but getting used to it slow by slow. Good fun otherwise.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 24 2016 21:11 GMT
#162
On June 25 2016 06:10 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2016 06:09 Skynx wrote:
On June 25 2016 06:08 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 06:07 Skynx wrote:
Even tho having no QT sucks i so wanted to roll mafia this game cuz all the possible Allahu Akbar mechanics.
Shame


Such as? What was a plan you had as mafia?

Use my charm to get that bodyguard role to sneak a remote under mayors car.


Except that we should not reveal the bodyguard and let pardoner decide. And you'd be instantly outed as mafia.

Interesting plan. x;

Worked for you last time
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 24 2016 21:14 GMT
#166
Yeah and you emperor stop watching dotes
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 24 2016 21:58 GMT
#187
I'll happily be your first muslim president. I won't stop till all red are wiped out.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 24 2016 22:08 GMT
#190
On June 25 2016 07:02 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2016 06:58 Skynx wrote:
I'll happily be your first muslim president. I won't stop till all red are wiped out.


Who'd you lynch?

I dunno yet, in case that was a srs question

For fluff, im never lynching you til mylo ever again...
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 24 2016 22:16 GMT
#199
On June 25 2016 07:09 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2016 07:08 Skynx wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:02 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 06:58 Skynx wrote:
I'll happily be your first muslim president. I won't stop till all red are wiped out.


Who'd you lynch?

I dunno yet, in case that was a srs question

For fluff, im never lynching you til mylo ever again...


For fluff? What? Why?

Man zzz cuz i went against my instincts in 1day and we lost. You were also giving away stuff about Vivax on HF game. Basically I kill your teammates first then you.

If you're mafia that is, which i dunno yet.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 24 2016 22:19 GMT
#202
On June 25 2016 07:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Oh shit the Ottoman Empire used mostly red in their flag as well. Guess you can't do what you promise without killing yourself

Almost every flag i can think of has a bit of red in it.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 24 2016 22:27 GMT
#212
On June 25 2016 07:19 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2016 07:16 Skynx wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:09 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:08 Skynx wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:02 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 06:58 Skynx wrote:
I'll happily be your first muslim president. I won't stop till all red are wiped out.


Who'd you lynch?

I dunno yet, in case that was a srs question

For fluff, im never lynching you til mylo ever again...


For fluff? What? Why?

Man zzz cuz i went against my instincts in 1day and we lost. You were also giving away stuff about Vivax on HF game. Basically I kill your teammates first then you.

If you're mafia that is, which i dunno yet.


Kinda weird to bring this up this early. Feels like some weird reason to dodge giving a read on me. x: I do expect you to give a read on me during d1 since you played with me as me being both town and scum.

I'm not gona stay awake if u gona be like this. Ahwell, yeh you will have your reads when the time is right.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 24 2016 22:33 GMT
#218
On June 25 2016 07:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2016 07:15 Damdred wrote:
Art can be small town as well who u will spite lynch in lylo

What's got you townreading me mr. Ian sir?
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2016 07:19 Skynx wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Oh shit the Ottoman Empire used mostly red in their flag as well. Guess you can't do what you promise without killing yourself

Almost every flag i can think of has a bit of red in it.

True but your flag has like a lot of it.

True 🇹🇷🇹🇷
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 25 2016 16:36 GMT
#482
Wow Art kinda fucked up hard imo:

20 posts of trolling and fluff followed by this all of a sudden:

On June 25 2016 08:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2016 08:51 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:47 QuickTwist wrote:
So... are we past the BS stage or not?

On June 25 2016 08:47 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:46 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:42 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 25 2016 06:52 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 06:48 GlowingBear wrote:
OHAI, I'm town

Makes me mayor


Do you want to bear that responsibility?


Awesome joke, 10/10

The puns are getting unbearable already.


5/7, keep growling

ftfy

This actually makes me think you're mafia.
"Hurr I'm annoyed that people are bullshitting"
*joins in on the bullshitting*
Not buying it.


Not buying that since nothing noteworthy has happened in the thread and I am joking means I'm Scum.. OK.

So you don't "buy" that I was just playing along.. Why?


Show nested quote +
On June 25 2016 07:25 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:21 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:19 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:12 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:10 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:02 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 06:58 Skynx wrote:
I'll happily be your first muslim president. I won't stop till all red are wiped out.


Who'd you lynch?


Kinda early for this isn't it? Or was this a joke?


No? Maybe he had an idea or direction.


I thought dicking around the first few pages is what people do here. Am I missing something?


Why'd you bring up the stuff about me? Seems like it was kind of serious. Were you just dicking around then? ;x


Oh, yeah. I don't like RVS too much. I am known for ending RVS early at my home site. I prefer to get things going more seriously early than dicking around, but I thought you were one of the people who like to take things light early so I'm not sure I get the pseudo kinda sorta scum hunting.

Show nested quote +
On June 25 2016 07:43 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:40 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:25 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:21 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:19 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:12 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:10 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:02 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 06:58 Skynx wrote:
I'll happily be your first muslim president. I won't stop till all red are wiped out.


Who'd you lynch?


Kinda early for this isn't it? Or was this a joke?


No? Maybe he had an idea or direction.


I thought dicking around the first few pages is what people do here. Am I missing something?


Why'd you bring up the stuff about me? Seems like it was kind of serious. Were you just dicking around then? ;x


Oh, yeah. I don't like RVS too much. I am known for ending RVS early at my home site. I prefer to get things going more seriously early than dicking around, but I thought you were one of the people who like to take things light early so I'm not sure I get the pseudo kinda sorta scum hunting.


I think the idea is to fill up your filter as much as possible so no one wants to read it ecks dee


What do you mean? That is not my plan this game at all.

You do not strike me as a joking player. You weren't kidding about these comments, so clearly you want to get the game going. Your latest comment suggests an actual annoyance regarding people messing around, and then immediately after you make a pun to join in on the very thing you just bitched about, which strongly implies you were just attempting to blend in/look townie by pretending you want to move the game into the 'serious' phase without actually doing so.

I believe there's a good chance you're mafia.

So this is super weak, it actually reminds me of myself in newbie game going for an easy mislynch.

On June 25 2016 09:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2016 09:01 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:51 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:47 QuickTwist wrote:
So... are we past the BS stage or not?

On June 25 2016 08:47 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:46 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:42 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 25 2016 06:52 Superbia wrote:
[quote]

Do you want to bear that responsibility?


Awesome joke, 10/10

The puns are getting unbearable already.


5/7, keep growling

ftfy

This actually makes me think you're mafia.
"Hurr I'm annoyed that people are bullshitting"
*joins in on the bullshitting*
Not buying it.


Not buying that since nothing noteworthy has happened in the thread and I am joking means I'm Scum.. OK.

So you don't "buy" that I was just playing along.. Why?


On June 25 2016 07:25 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:21 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:19 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:12 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:10 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:02 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 06:58 Skynx wrote:
I'll happily be your first muslim president. I won't stop till all red are wiped out.


Who'd you lynch?


Kinda early for this isn't it? Or was this a joke?


No? Maybe he had an idea or direction.


I thought dicking around the first few pages is what people do here. Am I missing something?


Why'd you bring up the stuff about me? Seems like it was kind of serious. Were you just dicking around then? ;x


Oh, yeah. I don't like RVS too much. I am known for ending RVS early at my home site. I prefer to get things going more seriously early than dicking around, but I thought you were one of the people who like to take things light early so I'm not sure I get the pseudo kinda sorta scum hunting.

On June 25 2016 07:43 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:40 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:25 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:21 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:19 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:12 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:10 QuickTwist wrote:
[quote]

Kinda early for this isn't it? Or was this a joke?


No? Maybe he had an idea or direction.


I thought dicking around the first few pages is what people do here. Am I missing something?


Why'd you bring up the stuff about me? Seems like it was kind of serious. Were you just dicking around then? ;x


Oh, yeah. I don't like RVS too much. I am known for ending RVS early at my home site. I prefer to get things going more seriously early than dicking around, but I thought you were one of the people who like to take things light early so I'm not sure I get the pseudo kinda sorta scum hunting.


I think the idea is to fill up your filter as much as possible so no one wants to read it ecks dee


What do you mean? That is not my plan this game at all.

You do not strike me as a joking player. You weren't kidding about these comments, so clearly you want to get the game going. Your latest comment suggests an actual annoyance regarding people messing around, and then immediately after you make a pun to join in on the very thing you just bitched about, which strongly implies you were just attempting to blend in/look townie by pretending you want to move the game into the 'serious' phase without actually doing so.

I believe there's a good chance you're mafia.

idk what narrative is but this is narrative
don't like this read at all, feels forced

It's a tone-based read.
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2016 09:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Well I just went through QT's filter on his previous game and apparently he's been lynched a lot. I didn't find anything like the tonally inconsistent thing that I pinged out though, and lynchbait rolls mafia too so eh.

Anyway, only a few hours into D1. We'll see what develops.


QT expressed that he doesn't like the random voting stage/silliness going on.
QT expresses it again.
Makes a joke instantly afterwards.
None of that is narrative. It's tonally inconsistent.


This post is quite bait, he's trying to make up for parts i bolded because they are not one bit indicative of QT being scum. Looks like a panic move. Moosy and Tumble points this out and Art switches to this:

On June 25 2016 19:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Hello!

I no longer think QT is mafia. This is extremely upsetting. I kinda didn't want to let go of it because if I was right I'd feel like a dunce

I'm curious though, QT, why do you have a scum lean on me? You said yourself that the reason I was scumreading you made sense for most players, and now you're applying it to TW.

On June 25 2016 20:12 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'm just going to let someone else deal with you because apparently asking clarifying questions is now scummy and it's very tiring. I actually think you're town but I was trying to UNDERSTAND what was going on there.

That's a lot of back and forth there. Your push was a quite serious one, you have to back it up with something or just admit you were trying to bait. Either way, the manner in which you abandon your scumread feels way to panicky to me.
On June 25 2016 10:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2016 09:54 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm pretty comfortable to call quick twist town right at the moment.

I think Artanis pushes on quick twist are kinda unnatural, but it's mostly a gut feel

M8 you're not going to get me mislynched no matter how hard you try. Just give up on the plans before you give yourself away.

This is also not ok, if you're gona attack someone please have some basis behind it. GB's posts were all good up to that point, why try to divide the town?
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 25 2016 16:48 GMT
#485
On June 25 2016 09:25 Damdred wrote:
Like right now I have a small town circle of

Super, art, qt, tumble, Damdred

D1 pass moosey

So already we have a nice schmuck taken out.

Why is art town?
On June 25 2016 09:26 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2016 09:25 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 25 2016 09:22 Damdred wrote:
I think art v qt is t v t.

Its good though keep it up.


Actually, doesn't it look like they are trying to distance from each other?


Nope don't think so. But it's a good thought. Keep it up and you can be in the circle

So he suggests s v s and all you have to say is this? Why do you leave it at that? If you genuinely think art vs QT is tvt someone suggesting otherwise has to be pressured at least why do you give this up?
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 25 2016 17:00 GMT
#487
On June 26 2016 01:42 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2016 01:36 Skynx wrote:
Wow Art kinda fucked up hard imo:

20 posts of trolling and fluff followed by this all of a sudden:

On June 25 2016 08:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:51 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:47 QuickTwist wrote:
So... are we past the BS stage or not?

On June 25 2016 08:47 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:46 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:42 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 25 2016 06:52 Superbia wrote:
[quote]

Do you want to bear that responsibility?


Awesome joke, 10/10

The puns are getting unbearable already.


5/7, keep growling

ftfy

This actually makes me think you're mafia.
"Hurr I'm annoyed that people are bullshitting"
*joins in on the bullshitting*
Not buying it.


Not buying that since nothing noteworthy has happened in the thread and I am joking means I'm Scum.. OK.

So you don't "buy" that I was just playing along.. Why?


On June 25 2016 07:25 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:21 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:19 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:12 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:10 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:02 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 06:58 Skynx wrote:
I'll happily be your first muslim president. I won't stop till all red are wiped out.


Who'd you lynch?


Kinda early for this isn't it? Or was this a joke?


No? Maybe he had an idea or direction.


I thought dicking around the first few pages is what people do here. Am I missing something?


Why'd you bring up the stuff about me? Seems like it was kind of serious. Were you just dicking around then? ;x


Oh, yeah. I don't like RVS too much. I am known for ending RVS early at my home site. I prefer to get things going more seriously early than dicking around, but I thought you were one of the people who like to take things light early so I'm not sure I get the pseudo kinda sorta scum hunting.

On June 25 2016 07:43 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:40 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:25 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:21 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:19 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:12 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:10 QuickTwist wrote:
[quote]

Kinda early for this isn't it? Or was this a joke?


No? Maybe he had an idea or direction.


I thought dicking around the first few pages is what people do here. Am I missing something?


Why'd you bring up the stuff about me? Seems like it was kind of serious. Were you just dicking around then? ;x


Oh, yeah. I don't like RVS too much. I am known for ending RVS early at my home site. I prefer to get things going more seriously early than dicking around, but I thought you were one of the people who like to take things light early so I'm not sure I get the pseudo kinda sorta scum hunting.


I think the idea is to fill up your filter as much as possible so no one wants to read it ecks dee


What do you mean? That is not my plan this game at all.

You do not strike me as a joking player. You weren't kidding about these comments, so clearly you want to get the game going. Your latest comment suggests an actual annoyance regarding people messing around, and then immediately after you make a pun to join in on the very thing you just bitched about, which strongly implies you were just attempting to blend in/look townie by pretending you want to move the game into the 'serious' phase without actually doing so.

I believe there's a good chance you're mafia.

So this is super weak, it actually reminds me of myself in newbie game going for an easy mislynch.

On June 25 2016 09:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 25 2016 09:01 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:51 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:47 QuickTwist wrote:
So... are we past the BS stage or not?

On June 25 2016 08:47 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:46 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
[quote]
The puns are getting unbearable already.


5/7, keep growling

ftfy

This actually makes me think you're mafia.
"Hurr I'm annoyed that people are bullshitting"
*joins in on the bullshitting*
Not buying it.


Not buying that since nothing noteworthy has happened in the thread and I am joking means I'm Scum.. OK.

So you don't "buy" that I was just playing along.. Why?


On June 25 2016 07:25 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:21 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:19 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:12 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:10 QuickTwist wrote:
[quote]

Kinda early for this isn't it? Or was this a joke?


No? Maybe he had an idea or direction.


I thought dicking around the first few pages is what people do here. Am I missing something?


Why'd you bring up the stuff about me? Seems like it was kind of serious. Were you just dicking around then? ;x


Oh, yeah. I don't like RVS too much. I am known for ending RVS early at my home site. I prefer to get things going more seriously early than dicking around, but I thought you were one of the people who like to take things light early so I'm not sure I get the pseudo kinda sorta scum hunting.

On June 25 2016 07:43 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:40 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:25 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:21 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:19 QuickTwist wrote:
[quote]

I thought dicking around the first few pages is what people do here. Am I missing something?


Why'd you bring up the stuff about me? Seems like it was kind of serious. Were you just dicking around then? ;x


Oh, yeah. I don't like RVS too much. I am known for ending RVS early at my home site. I prefer to get things going more seriously early than dicking around, but I thought you were one of the people who like to take things light early so I'm not sure I get the pseudo kinda sorta scum hunting.


I think the idea is to fill up your filter as much as possible so no one wants to read it ecks dee


What do you mean? That is not my plan this game at all.

You do not strike me as a joking player. You weren't kidding about these comments, so clearly you want to get the game going. Your latest comment suggests an actual annoyance regarding people messing around, and then immediately after you make a pun to join in on the very thing you just bitched about, which strongly implies you were just attempting to blend in/look townie by pretending you want to move the game into the 'serious' phase without actually doing so.

I believe there's a good chance you're mafia.

idk what narrative is but this is narrative
don't like this read at all, feels forced

It's a tone-based read.
On June 25 2016 09:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Well I just went through QT's filter on his previous game and apparently he's been lynched a lot. I didn't find anything like the tonally inconsistent thing that I pinged out though, and lynchbait rolls mafia too so eh.

Anyway, only a few hours into D1. We'll see what develops.


QT expressed that he doesn't like the random voting stage/silliness going on.
QT expresses it again.
Makes a joke instantly afterwards.
None of that is narrative. It's tonally inconsistent.


This post is quite bait, he's trying to make up for parts i bolded because they are not one bit indicative of QT being scum. Looks like a panic move. Moosy and Tumble points this out and Art switches to this:

On June 25 2016 19:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Hello!

I no longer think QT is mafia. This is extremely upsetting. I kinda didn't want to let go of it because if I was right I'd feel like a dunce

I'm curious though, QT, why do you have a scum lean on me? You said yourself that the reason I was scumreading you made sense for most players, and now you're applying it to TW.

On June 25 2016 20:12 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'm just going to let someone else deal with you because apparently asking clarifying questions is now scummy and it's very tiring. I actually think you're town but I was trying to UNDERSTAND what was going on there.

That's a lot of back and forth there. Your push was a quite serious one, you have to back it up with something or just admit you were trying to bait. Either way, the manner in which you abandon your scumread feels way to panicky to me.
On June 25 2016 10:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 25 2016 09:54 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm pretty comfortable to call quick twist town right at the moment.

I think Artanis pushes on quick twist are kinda unnatural, but it's mostly a gut feel

M8 you're not going to get me mislynched no matter how hard you try. Just give up on the plans before you give yourself away.

This is also not ok, if you're gona attack someone please have some basis behind it. GB's posts were all good up to that point, why try to divide the town?

So what your case boils down to is I troll some, then I get serious on something that I thought I saw, then after an exchange and some cooling down I no longer believe it makes him scum, then I notice something that I find odd and get a little paranoid and ask for an explanation/understanding, then poking fun at GB whom I know quite well.

I actually think you're likely town for trying to case me though. It does look like you believe it.

Its amusing how you try to make everything I pointed out sound like what they are not.
What happened actually then? What did you think you saw and why you think it doesn't make him scum anymore?
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 25 2016 17:04 GMT
#489
On June 26 2016 01:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2016 01:48 Skynx wrote:
On June 25 2016 09:25 Damdred wrote:
Like right now I have a small town circle of

Super, art, qt, tumble, Damdred

D1 pass moosey

So already we have a nice schmuck taken out.

Why is art town?
On June 25 2016 09:26 Damdred wrote:
On June 25 2016 09:25 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 25 2016 09:22 Damdred wrote:
I think art v qt is t v t.

Its good though keep it up.


Actually, doesn't it look like they are trying to distance from each other?


Nope don't think so. But it's a good thought. Keep it up and you can be in the circle

So he suggests s v s and all you have to say is this? Why do you leave it at that? If you genuinely think art vs QT is tvt someone suggesting otherwise has to be pressured at least why do you give this up?

Pretty sure he's saying that given the fact GB paranoid-thought of Scum vs Scum immediately it's town indicative for him. He considers the paranoia townie.

I don't necessarily agree on GB. I don't really have a read on him as of yet.

Well to start I dunno why you try to answer for Damdred. But since you tried;
GB's post doesn't sound paranoid 1 bit, he's posting an opinion thats completely opposite of Damdreds and he's ok with that. What do you feel about this and why did you not account for it since you tried to answer for him?
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 25 2016 17:22 GMT
#491
On June 26 2016 02:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2016 02:00 Skynx wrote:
On June 26 2016 01:42 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 26 2016 01:36 Skynx wrote:
Wow Art kinda fucked up hard imo:

20 posts of trolling and fluff followed by this all of a sudden:

On June 25 2016 08:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:51 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:47 QuickTwist wrote:
So... are we past the BS stage or not?

On June 25 2016 08:47 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:46 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
[quote]
The puns are getting unbearable already.


5/7, keep growling

ftfy

This actually makes me think you're mafia.
"Hurr I'm annoyed that people are bullshitting"
*joins in on the bullshitting*
Not buying it.


Not buying that since nothing noteworthy has happened in the thread and I am joking means I'm Scum.. OK.

So you don't "buy" that I was just playing along.. Why?


On June 25 2016 07:25 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:21 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:19 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:12 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:10 QuickTwist wrote:
[quote]

Kinda early for this isn't it? Or was this a joke?


No? Maybe he had an idea or direction.


I thought dicking around the first few pages is what people do here. Am I missing something?


Why'd you bring up the stuff about me? Seems like it was kind of serious. Were you just dicking around then? ;x


Oh, yeah. I don't like RVS too much. I am known for ending RVS early at my home site. I prefer to get things going more seriously early than dicking around, but I thought you were one of the people who like to take things light early so I'm not sure I get the pseudo kinda sorta scum hunting.

On June 25 2016 07:43 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:40 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:25 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:21 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:19 QuickTwist wrote:
[quote]

I thought dicking around the first few pages is what people do here. Am I missing something?


Why'd you bring up the stuff about me? Seems like it was kind of serious. Were you just dicking around then? ;x


Oh, yeah. I don't like RVS too much. I am known for ending RVS early at my home site. I prefer to get things going more seriously early than dicking around, but I thought you were one of the people who like to take things light early so I'm not sure I get the pseudo kinda sorta scum hunting.


I think the idea is to fill up your filter as much as possible so no one wants to read it ecks dee


What do you mean? That is not my plan this game at all.

You do not strike me as a joking player. You weren't kidding about these comments, so clearly you want to get the game going. Your latest comment suggests an actual annoyance regarding people messing around, and then immediately after you make a pun to join in on the very thing you just bitched about, which strongly implies you were just attempting to blend in/look townie by pretending you want to move the game into the 'serious' phase without actually doing so.

I believe there's a good chance you're mafia.

So this is super weak, it actually reminds me of myself in newbie game going for an easy mislynch.

On June 25 2016 09:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 25 2016 09:01 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:51 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:47 QuickTwist wrote:
So... are we past the BS stage or not?

On June 25 2016 08:47 QuickTwist wrote:
[quote]
ftfy

This actually makes me think you're mafia.
"Hurr I'm annoyed that people are bullshitting"
*joins in on the bullshitting*
Not buying it.


Not buying that since nothing noteworthy has happened in the thread and I am joking means I'm Scum.. OK.

So you don't "buy" that I was just playing along.. Why?


On June 25 2016 07:25 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:21 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:19 QuickTwist wrote:
[quote]

I thought dicking around the first few pages is what people do here. Am I missing something?


Why'd you bring up the stuff about me? Seems like it was kind of serious. Were you just dicking around then? ;x


Oh, yeah. I don't like RVS too much. I am known for ending RVS early at my home site. I prefer to get things going more seriously early than dicking around, but I thought you were one of the people who like to take things light early so I'm not sure I get the pseudo kinda sorta scum hunting.

On June 25 2016 07:43 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:40 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:25 QuickTwist wrote:
[quote]

Oh, yeah. I don't like RVS too much. I am known for ending RVS early at my home site. I prefer to get things going more seriously early than dicking around, but I thought you were one of the people who like to take things light early so I'm not sure I get the pseudo kinda sorta scum hunting.


I think the idea is to fill up your filter as much as possible so no one wants to read it ecks dee


What do you mean? That is not my plan this game at all.

You do not strike me as a joking player. You weren't kidding about these comments, so clearly you want to get the game going. Your latest comment suggests an actual annoyance regarding people messing around, and then immediately after you make a pun to join in on the very thing you just bitched about, which strongly implies you were just attempting to blend in/look townie by pretending you want to move the game into the 'serious' phase without actually doing so.

I believe there's a good chance you're mafia.

idk what narrative is but this is narrative
don't like this read at all, feels forced

It's a tone-based read.
On June 25 2016 09:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Well I just went through QT's filter on his previous game and apparently he's been lynched a lot. I didn't find anything like the tonally inconsistent thing that I pinged out though, and lynchbait rolls mafia too so eh.

Anyway, only a few hours into D1. We'll see what develops.


QT expressed that he doesn't like the random voting stage/silliness going on.
QT expresses it again.
Makes a joke instantly afterwards.
None of that is narrative. It's tonally inconsistent.


This post is quite bait, he's trying to make up for parts i bolded because they are not one bit indicative of QT being scum. Looks like a panic move. Moosy and Tumble points this out and Art switches to this:

On June 25 2016 19:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Hello!

I no longer think QT is mafia. This is extremely upsetting. I kinda didn't want to let go of it because if I was right I'd feel like a dunce

I'm curious though, QT, why do you have a scum lean on me? You said yourself that the reason I was scumreading you made sense for most players, and now you're applying it to TW.

On June 25 2016 20:12 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'm just going to let someone else deal with you because apparently asking clarifying questions is now scummy and it's very tiring. I actually think you're town but I was trying to UNDERSTAND what was going on there.

That's a lot of back and forth there. Your push was a quite serious one, you have to back it up with something or just admit you were trying to bait. Either way, the manner in which you abandon your scumread feels way to panicky to me.
On June 25 2016 10:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 25 2016 09:54 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm pretty comfortable to call quick twist town right at the moment.

I think Artanis pushes on quick twist are kinda unnatural, but it's mostly a gut feel

M8 you're not going to get me mislynched no matter how hard you try. Just give up on the plans before you give yourself away.

This is also not ok, if you're gona attack someone please have some basis behind it. GB's posts were all good up to that point, why try to divide the town?

So what your case boils down to is I troll some, then I get serious on something that I thought I saw, then after an exchange and some cooling down I no longer believe it makes him scum, then I notice something that I find odd and get a little paranoid and ask for an explanation/understanding, then poking fun at GB whom I know quite well.

I actually think you're likely town for trying to case me though. It does look like you believe it.

Its amusing how you try to make everything I pointed out sound like what they are not.
What happened actually then? What did you think you saw and why you think it doesn't make him scum anymore?

I thought I saw an inconsistency in tone/emotion which I felt pretty confident in.

Guy kept posting, was tonally consistent in said posts and responded in a way that made me feel like he's probably town.

Also, please actually expand upon the bolded sentence.

He did not change the way he posts. Your initial "thought I saw inconsistency in tone/emotion" was weak and you should be experienced enough to tell it's not scum indicative, thats just how this guy posts.

You perfectly know what i meant with bold part.
The way you defend yourself is again weak at best: I claimed your trolly to hard push was way too inconsistent and you say "oh i just though I saw something". No, you clearly thought QT was scum from the way you constructed your posts. Then after you realised its not working out you gave it up saying "oh ok what i saw doesn't make him scum anymore". If you think QT's inconsistency makes him scummy, then how can you objectively believe your behavior is totally fine?

You should have at least point out a clear change in behavior in QT's posts, quote them out, construct your way on how he's not scum anymore instead of "I no longer believe it makes him scum". Right now you are not convincing at all.
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 25 2016 17:32 GMT
#495
I'm not framing anything, I objectively think what you've done is scummy and explained why I think they are scummy.
Anyway, I guess that's all you've got to say about it. Lets see what other people think of it.
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 25 2016 17:34 GMT
#496
On June 26 2016 00:56 QuickTwist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2016 00:43 Tictock wrote:
On June 26 2016 00:36 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 26 2016 00:08 Tictock wrote:
On June 25 2016 12:48 Damdred wrote:
Just a couple, your initial response to my opening post was good and showed you were reading carefully.

The post about art/qt about distancing while I disagreed showed a nice jumping around logic and looking at things from different hard to see angles.

I'm fact I don't think mafia GB makes that post especially going after art who is almost impossible to Lynch as town.

So yeah just some fun thinking from you. I think your town actually.


This is your most developed read that you gave out, everything else was super hand wavy.

On June 25 2016 06:58 Damdred wrote:
Because I think if I try to rub for mayor I'd get to wrapped up in that instead of hunting scum early. If people want to vote me I'd make decent decisions though.

Super knee jerk town.
GB knee jerk scum! They can't bear the responsibility

On June 25 2016 07:22 Damdred wrote:
Hrmph halfway being ignored sadness,

Sk might be scum, qt probably town.

On June 25 2016 08:00 Damdred wrote:
Mannn I feel like I need to lay down.

I'm town reading tumble now
, what the hell is wrong with me. Watch him pop scum or some shit make me look like a trad.

Any way qt can you give me your impression of emperors catching up posts?


And plz, "...beat most of the game to the same reads" doesn't mean jack especially kus you are prob scum.


Fake quote is fake. I don't see a good Town reason to do this.


You mean this?

On June 25 2016 23:50 Damdred wrote:
How am i pushing shitty scum reads again?

Why are my townreads super lazy again when i've beat most of the game to the same reads exactly?




Nope, I don't mean that, try again.

Which one you mean QT you gotta be more clear. All three quotes look fine to me from Damdreds filter.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 25 2016 17:41 GMT
#497
On June 25 2016 11:07 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2016 07:26 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:23 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:22 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:19 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:16 Skynx wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:09 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:08 Skynx wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:02 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 06:58 Skynx wrote:
I'll happily be your first muslim president. I won't stop till all red are wiped out.


Who'd you lynch?

I dunno yet, in case that was a srs question

For fluff, im never lynching you til mylo ever again...


For fluff? What? Why?

Man zzz cuz i went against my instincts in 1day and we lost. You were also giving away stuff about Vivax on HF game. Basically I kill your teammates first then you.

If you're mafia that is, which i dunno yet.


Kinda weird to bring this up this early. Feels like some weird reason to dodge giving a read on me. x: I do expect you to give a read on me during d1 since you played with me as me being both town and scum.


Super looks and points to the sky and few people look.

Why do you think its weird to not have a read on you so early? What is wrong with the hypothetical Skynx put forth?

Why do you say its weird what Skynx is doing so early? It looks like you are the one taking things too seriously at this point.


Why are you defending skynx? x;


I'm not really hard defending Skynx any more than I find you being serious about the game at this point to be Sus. Skynx is playing to this sites meta and I don't know that you are.



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On June 25 2016 06:18 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 25 2016 06:13 Superbia wrote:
TW why you lurking son.

I was hoping my filter would be readable
note to self: skip the first pages of super's and skynx's filters


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On June 25 2016 08:16 Tumblewood wrote:
agree on qt being town but damdred why is skynx scum?

Show nested quote +
On June 25 2016 09:06 MoosyDoosy wrote:
eh, ask other people about it. jealous, tumble, emperor, Skynx, and Superbia were all in that game and damdred was mafia coach for it too.

Show nested quote +
On June 25 2016 10:24 Tumblewood wrote:
QT can you explain to me your town lean on Skynx?



On June 25 2016 11:21 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2016 11:15 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 11:10 Chezinu wrote:
On June 25 2016 11:07 Chezinu wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:26 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:23 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:22 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:19 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:16 Skynx wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:09 Superbia wrote:
[quote]

For fluff? What? Why?

Man zzz cuz i went against my instincts in 1day and we lost. You were also giving away stuff about Vivax on HF game. Basically I kill your teammates first then you.

If you're mafia that is, which i dunno yet.


Kinda weird to bring this up this early. Feels like some weird reason to dodge giving a read on me. x: I do expect you to give a read on me during d1 since you played with me as me being both town and scum.


Super looks and points to the sky and few people look.

Why do you think its weird to not have a read on you so early? What is wrong with the hypothetical Skynx put forth?

Why do you say its weird what Skynx is doing so early? It looks like you are the one taking things too seriously at this point.


Why are you defending skynx? x;


I'm not really hard defending Skynx any more than I find you being serious about the game at this point to be Sus. Skynx is playing to this sites meta and I don't know that you are.




found it


If you have a point, can you make it please?


This point is the super knows that the sky exists. Points to the sky and few look afterwards. Something to look at. Have you ever gazed at the sky?

Is that a love letter of some sort or do you have a point with all this? I'm not liking you for president.

I dunno why people want to make you president anyway, you sound like another Moosy just unreadible D1.
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 25 2016 17:42 GMT
#499
On June 25 2016 23:29 Tictock wrote:
Yea I think I'm just gunna ignore discussing my townreads today.

I still want to lynch between Art and Damdred on the grounds that they are throwing out super lazy townreads and pushing fairly shitty scumreads.

I like you. One of us should be pres.
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 25 2016 17:46 GMT
#502
lol ok what should we talk about my dear Tumble?
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 25 2016 17:47 GMT
#503
On June 26 2016 02:45 QuickTwist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2016 02:34 Skynx wrote:
On June 26 2016 00:56 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 26 2016 00:43 Tictock wrote:
On June 26 2016 00:36 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 26 2016 00:08 Tictock wrote:
On June 25 2016 12:48 Damdred wrote:
Just a couple, your initial response to my opening post was good and showed you were reading carefully.

The post about art/qt about distancing while I disagreed showed a nice jumping around logic and looking at things from different hard to see angles.

I'm fact I don't think mafia GB makes that post especially going after art who is almost impossible to Lynch as town.

So yeah just some fun thinking from you. I think your town actually.


This is your most developed read that you gave out, everything else was super hand wavy.

On June 25 2016 06:58 Damdred wrote:
Because I think if I try to rub for mayor I'd get to wrapped up in that instead of hunting scum early. If people want to vote me I'd make decent decisions though.

Super knee jerk town.
GB knee jerk scum! They can't bear the responsibility

On June 25 2016 07:22 Damdred wrote:
Hrmph halfway being ignored sadness,

Sk might be scum, qt probably town.

On June 25 2016 08:00 Damdred wrote:
Mannn I feel like I need to lay down.

I'm town reading tumble now
, what the hell is wrong with me. Watch him pop scum or some shit make me look like a trad.

Any way qt can you give me your impression of emperors catching up posts?


And plz, "...beat most of the game to the same reads" doesn't mean jack especially kus you are prob scum.


Fake quote is fake. I don't see a good Town reason to do this.


You mean this?

On June 25 2016 23:50 Damdred wrote:
How am i pushing shitty scum reads again?

Why are my townreads super lazy again when i've beat most of the game to the same reads exactly?




Nope, I don't mean that, try again.

Which one you mean QT you gotta be more clear. All three quotes look fine to me from Damdreds filter.


the underlined part. did you catch whos up to misquoting mischief? I'll give you a hint. Its TT.


On June 25 2016 08:00 Damdred wrote:
Mannn I feel like I need to lay down.

I'm town reading tumble now, what the hell is wrong with me. Watch him pop scum or some shit make me look like a trad.

Any way qt can you give me your impression of emperors catching up posts?


?????
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 25 2016 17:56 GMT
#505
On June 26 2016 02:49 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2016 02:46 Skynx wrote:
lol ok what should we talk about my dear Tumble?

idk, damdred?
the art argument isn't going anywhere. I guess it helps to figure out his alignment but maaan I hate reading it. keep going if you want I guess, I'm just here to stifle discussion.

Would help if people just say what they think of his alignment. You and Moosy did point out "take it ez art, QT is town" but what do you actually think of art?

Or if you don't feel like it we talk about damdred, what do you think of this?
On June 25 2016 09:26 Damdred wrote:
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On June 25 2016 09:25 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 25 2016 09:22 Damdred wrote:
I think art v qt is t v t.

Its good though keep it up.


Actually, doesn't it look like they are trying to distance from each other?


Nope don't think so. But it's a good thought. Keep it up and you can be in the circle

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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 25 2016 18:08 GMT
#511
On June 26 2016 03:00 QuickTwist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2016 02:47 Skynx wrote:
On June 26 2016 02:45 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 26 2016 02:34 Skynx wrote:
On June 26 2016 00:56 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 26 2016 00:43 Tictock wrote:
On June 26 2016 00:36 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 26 2016 00:08 Tictock wrote:
On June 25 2016 12:48 Damdred wrote:
Just a couple, your initial response to my opening post was good and showed you were reading carefully.

The post about art/qt about distancing while I disagreed showed a nice jumping around logic and looking at things from different hard to see angles.

I'm fact I don't think mafia GB makes that post especially going after art who is almost impossible to Lynch as town.

So yeah just some fun thinking from you. I think your town actually.


This is your most developed read that you gave out, everything else was super hand wavy.

On June 25 2016 06:58 Damdred wrote:
Because I think if I try to rub for mayor I'd get to wrapped up in that instead of hunting scum early. If people want to vote me I'd make decent decisions though.

Super knee jerk town.
GB knee jerk scum! They can't bear the responsibility

On June 25 2016 07:22 Damdred wrote:
Hrmph halfway being ignored sadness,

Sk might be scum, qt probably town.

On June 25 2016 08:00 Damdred wrote:
Mannn I feel like I need to lay down.

I'm town reading tumble now
, what the hell is wrong with me. Watch him pop scum or some shit make me look like a trad.

Any way qt can you give me your impression of emperors catching up posts?


And plz, "...beat most of the game to the same reads" doesn't mean jack especially kus you are prob scum.


Fake quote is fake. I don't see a good Town reason to do this.


You mean this?

On June 25 2016 23:50 Damdred wrote:
How am i pushing shitty scum reads again?

Why are my townreads super lazy again when i've beat most of the game to the same reads exactly?




Nope, I don't mean that, try again.

Which one you mean QT you gotta be more clear. All three quotes look fine to me from Damdreds filter.


the underlined part. did you catch whos up to misquoting mischief? I'll give you a hint. Its TT.


On June 25 2016 08:00 Damdred wrote:
Mannn I feel like I need to lay down.

I'm town reading tumble now, what the hell is wrong with me. Watch him pop scum or some shit make me look like a trad.

Any way qt can you give me your impression of emperors catching up posts?


?????


Do me a favor and link the post in question.

Are you fo real? You said underlined part:
On June 25 2016 08:00 Damdred wrote:
Mannn I feel like I need to lay down.

I'm town reading tumble now
, what the hell is wrong with me. Watch him pop scum or some shit make me look like a trad.

Any way qt can you give me your impression of emperors catching up posts?

On June 25 2016 08:00 Damdred wrote:
Mannn I feel like I need to lay down.

I'm town reading tumble now, what the hell is wrong with me. Watch him pop scum or some shit make me look like a trad.

Any way qt can you give me your impression of emperors catching up posts?

If you don't precisely explain what you mean in the reply I'm just gona assume you're making shit up.
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On June 26 2016 03:21 QuickTwist wrote:
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On June 26 2016 03:08 Skynx wrote:
On June 26 2016 03:00 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 26 2016 02:47 Skynx wrote:
On June 26 2016 02:45 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 26 2016 02:34 Skynx wrote:
On June 26 2016 00:56 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 26 2016 00:43 Tictock wrote:
On June 26 2016 00:36 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 26 2016 00:08 Tictock wrote:
[quote]

This is your most developed read that you gave out, everything else was super hand wavy.

[quote]
[quote]
[quote]

And plz, "...beat most of the game to the same reads" doesn't mean jack especially kus you are prob scum.


Fake quote is fake. I don't see a good Town reason to do this.


You mean this?

On June 25 2016 23:50 Damdred wrote:
How am i pushing shitty scum reads again?

Why are my townreads super lazy again when i've beat most of the game to the same reads exactly?




Nope, I don't mean that, try again.

Which one you mean QT you gotta be more clear. All three quotes look fine to me from Damdreds filter.


the underlined part. did you catch whos up to misquoting mischief? I'll give you a hint. Its TT.


On June 25 2016 08:00 Damdred wrote:
Mannn I feel like I need to lay down.

I'm town reading tumble now, what the hell is wrong with me. Watch him pop scum or some shit make me look like a trad.

Any way qt can you give me your impression of emperors catching up posts?


?????


Do me a favor and link the post in question.

Are you fo real? You said underlined part:
On June 25 2016 08:00 Damdred wrote:
Mannn I feel like I need to lay down.

I'm town reading tumble now
, what the hell is wrong with me. Watch him pop scum or some shit make me look like a trad.

Any way qt can you give me your impression of emperors catching up posts?

On June 25 2016 08:00 Damdred wrote:
Mannn I feel like I need to lay down.

I'm town reading tumble now, what the hell is wrong with me. Watch him pop scum or some shit make me look like a trad.

Any way qt can you give me your impression of emperors catching up posts?

If you don't precisely explain what you mean in the reply I'm just gona assume you're making shit up.


Its my mistake (well, TL's really). The post says it was made 19 hours ago on June 25th. Unfortunately I thought that was impossible since the timestamp says 8:00. So I went back to 8:00 AM and could not for the life of me find the quote. That would have been 5 hours ago my time at 8:00 AM. In short, the timestamps don't work like they should at this site. Will go back a check to make sure I am on the right forum time.

TL takes korean time as basis but still that's quite agressive for something that would barely change anything. You're reading too much into things.

Anyway,
On June 25 2016 10:01 QuickTwist wrote:
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On June 25 2016 09:50 QuickTwist wrote:
so lets get this cleared out of the way.

Who here thinks Art is Scum reading me based on an assumption of how I play?


I want to push this because it sets a valid president on how to read both myself and Art going forward.

I hope people can see the reason in this, but I know its likely to get overlooked.

I've put my opinion on this, do you have something to say on the matter? cuz I see you totally changed your mind on art's alignment now:

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On June 25 2016 10:14 QuickTwist wrote:
Reads:
Tumbleweed - town lean
Glowingbeer - null
Jealous - hasn't posted
emperarechampion - Null
Damdruid - Null
DoosyMoosy - Null
Cheziness - Null
Artanis[XD] - Scum lean
Jin Valjean - Hasn't posted
Tictack - Hasn't posted
Skynks - Town lean
Supbarbia - Null


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On June 26 2016 03:32 QuickTwist wrote:
Who I will not be voting for:

Moosy
Damdred
TT
Art
Chez (possibly)



He was your only scumread but now one of your most tr's? What made you change your opinion on me and Tumbel?
Well, actually you'd just better off just explain that list as a whole
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#539
On June 26 2016 04:19 QuickTwist wrote:
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On June 26 2016 04:07 Skynx wrote:
On June 26 2016 03:21 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 26 2016 03:08 Skynx wrote:
On June 26 2016 03:00 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 26 2016 02:47 Skynx wrote:
On June 26 2016 02:45 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 26 2016 02:34 Skynx wrote:
On June 26 2016 00:56 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 26 2016 00:43 Tictock wrote:
[quote]

You mean this?

[quote]



Nope, I don't mean that, try again.

Which one you mean QT you gotta be more clear. All three quotes look fine to me from Damdreds filter.


the underlined part. did you catch whos up to misquoting mischief? I'll give you a hint. Its TT.


On June 25 2016 08:00 Damdred wrote:
Mannn I feel like I need to lay down.

I'm town reading tumble now, what the hell is wrong with me. Watch him pop scum or some shit make me look like a trad.

Any way qt can you give me your impression of emperors catching up posts?


?????


Do me a favor and link the post in question.

Are you fo real? You said underlined part:
On June 25 2016 08:00 Damdred wrote:
Mannn I feel like I need to lay down.

I'm town reading tumble now
, what the hell is wrong with me. Watch him pop scum or some shit make me look like a trad.

Any way qt can you give me your impression of emperors catching up posts?

On June 25 2016 08:00 Damdred wrote:
Mannn I feel like I need to lay down.

I'm town reading tumble now, what the hell is wrong with me. Watch him pop scum or some shit make me look like a trad.

Any way qt can you give me your impression of emperors catching up posts?

If you don't precisely explain what you mean in the reply I'm just gona assume you're making shit up.


Its my mistake (well, TL's really). The post says it was made 19 hours ago on June 25th. Unfortunately I thought that was impossible since the timestamp says 8:00. So I went back to 8:00 AM and could not for the life of me find the quote. That would have been 5 hours ago my time at 8:00 AM. In short, the timestamps don't work like they should at this site. Will go back a check to make sure I am on the right forum time.

TL takes korean time as basis but still that's quite agressive for something that would barely change anything. You're reading too much into things.

Anyway,
On June 25 2016 10:01 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 09:50 QuickTwist wrote:
so lets get this cleared out of the way.

Who here thinks Art is Scum reading me based on an assumption of how I play?


I want to push this because it sets a valid president on how to read both myself and Art going forward.

I hope people can see the reason in this, but I know its likely to get overlooked.

I've put my opinion on this, do you have something to say on the matter? cuz I see you totally changed your mind on art's alignment now:

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On June 25 2016 10:14 QuickTwist wrote:
Reads:
Tumbleweed - town lean
Glowingbeer - null
Jealous - hasn't posted
emperarechampion - Null
Damdruid - Null
DoosyMoosy - Null
Cheziness - Null
Artanis[XD] - Scum lean
Jin Valjean - Hasn't posted
Tictack - Hasn't posted
Skynks - Town lean
Supbarbia - Null


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On June 26 2016 03:32 QuickTwist wrote:
Who I will not be voting for:

Moosy
Damdred
TT
Art
Chez (possibly)



He was your only scumread but now one of your most tr's? What made you change your opinion on me and Tumbel?
Well, actually you'd just better off just explain that list as a whole


Nope, those are my reads for people I will not be voting to execute the lynch. I still have Art as a Scum lean and don't want him to be the lyncher because of that.

Ah okies my bad. I like that you're not instantly jumping on Chez train.
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#540
Where are you Super we're bored here
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#549
I don't think Chez is necessarily scum but he's yet to make one fkin constructive post, I mean look at his filter. I'm not comfortable with him being president.
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#550
I'm off for the night i think, shamelessly self-nominating meanwhile. nn
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#703
GB for pres TT for pardonner plz.
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#705
QT is pretty t
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#706
Misclick gimme 2 secs
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#707
QT is pretty town but he wouldn't make a good pres for reasons Tumble stated earlier on.
Anyway i also agree with both roles take pri
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#708
Fking hell im switching to computer...
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#712
On June 26 2016 18:52 Skynx wrote:
QT is pretty town but he wouldn't make a good pres for reasons Tumble stated earlier on.
Anyway i also agree with both roles take pri

both roles take priority for having given to 100% townies before experienced players. That being said, both persons should be confident of their votes and not easily being swayed by other opinions (See Jealous last days of Newbie mafia).
GB and TT give me that feeling most with Tumble being next on the list, you can also vote for me btw. Super is null for me so far and he's swingy in votes anyway and shouldn't be given the role.
Rest should not even be discussed.
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#717
On June 26 2016 19:01 Tictock wrote:
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On June 26 2016 18:49 Skynx wrote:
GB for pres TT for pardonner plz.


Why GB?

Would you consider Tumble for pres?

+ Show Spoiler [Or...] +
Chez for Prez?

I'm thinking GB is more confirmed town than Tumble atm.

Chez would prolly make a worse pres than our PM.
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#722
On June 26 2016 07:05 Chezinu wrote:
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On June 26 2016 04:51 Skynx wrote:
I don't think Chez is necessarily scum but he's yet to make one fkin constructive post, I mean look at his filter. I'm not comfortable with him being president.


I know it's the Internet but it the texts sounds angry. Could this possibly be because of the people looking and pointing at you?

You must quit playing mafia and open your private text emotion interpreting company. You can earn millions from angry teen couples.
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#725
Also I don't think we should refer JVJ as smurf unless he confirms. If i were Alakaslam I'd just create another account which takes 5 seconds instead of joining a game as a smurf you already confirmed.
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#761
On June 26 2016 19:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Yeah 100% lynching Jean if I become mayor.

There is actually no chance he's mafia you know right?
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#771
On June 26 2016 20:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
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On June 26 2016 20:14 Skynx wrote:
On June 26 2016 19:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Yeah 100% lynching Jean if I become mayor.

There is actually no chance he's mafia you know right?

There is a chance. Mostly I just want him out of the game if he's going to be a dick.
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On June 26 2016 20:10 Superbia wrote:
On June 26 2016 20:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 26 2016 20:08 Superbia wrote:
On June 26 2016 20:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 26 2016 20:03 Superbia wrote:
I also think the question "who would you vote for president" is kind of relevant, art. You're not going to be president with so much doubt on you.

Eh, you seem to be certain on me being town. Damdred is too afaik and Chez has voted me. That's a start of 4. Tumble also seems to be coming around to me so we'll see.


I'm not voting you. x;

Why not? You called me super town


There are towns that doubt you, which makes me question my read to a degree. Also I would make a way better president.

That feels like really weak reasoning. Surely what matters is their reasoning and not their read? What in their reasoning resonated or made you doubt?

Alright, how on earth this is a town mentality? Anyone defending Art from now on better have a very strong reason cuz when i look at him I only see myself in D1 of newbie game trying to force a mislynch on QT.
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#891
I'm happy with GB pres. I'll catchup in a bit.
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#1225
Sorry for my absence boys n girls. That was some night then work all day today. Lemme catchup some 200 posts.
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#1227
I'm at 49 right now and I found something interesting.
So up until this page people are unsure between Moosy and emperor for a lynch, but so far Moosy has the edge and this happens:
On June 27 2016 02:50 Damdred wrote:
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On June 27 2016 02:47 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 27 2016 02:43 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 27 2016 02:40 GlowingBear wrote:
Reminder:

I AM NAMED VT

Vote me for mayor but REMEMBER TO SPREAD YOUR VOTES WITH SOMEONE VERY TOWNIE

Don't just vote me or you'll let Mafia have an easy time to decide the pardonner


Whether or not this is true, this is such a good play since you won't be able to be cop read once you are pardoner.


Actually has anybody discussed this, other than the fact that it's pretty much un-cc'able? I would feel OK about this if it were any other green / blue role.



Ec can be town today. Its a good thought.

Tumble questions this and it doesn't get answered.
Then Super, Tumble, GB, JVJ and QT are ok with emperor lynch.
On June 27 2016 04:35 Damdred wrote:
My reads aren't off at all the only person I'm reconsidering is super.

I have Tt as scum.

Jealous as a lower null

Super US falling

Ec is a higher null

Not a bad pool tbh I wouldn't lynch ec today at all

emperor between that interval did not post. He is also not playing well at all. He is almost all joky one liners with only exception being a JVJ scumread based on delusional stuff.
So i don't think there is even a reason to tr EC to start with but even so why null read him when he's done nothing town indicative at all?
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#1229
Damdred and Art guys:

Both are the only ones to tr emperor:

Both are only ones to scumread TT (except Tumble but he changed his mind i think?)

Both are hardcore defending eachother in Art vs QT

Both are never ever lynching Chez cuz "he's their friend"
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#1230
On June 26 2016 12:25 emperorchampion wrote:
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On June 26 2016 12:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:
@emperorchampion, what do you think of Artanis?


Have to read up on this guy, null atm

Then there is also this. How can you not have a read on most active guy in the game?
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June 27 2016 18:11 GMT
#1232
Art and Damdred are so ready to give meta reads on most experienced players but constantly switching between null/sr on Super?

I think Super has been very good so far. He's insightful with his posts, he asks a lot of questions, he's solving the game with his moves. Plus scum Superbia is very very different to town Superbia based on what I've seen from HF game, newbie game and 1day mafia. I'd assume they have played even more games together and should be up to date with his meta so this is very interesting to say the least.
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#1233
On June 28 2016 03:10 GlowingBear wrote:
Skynx are you new to the game?

Yeah
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#1234
On June 27 2016 06:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Just looked at TT's filter for interactions regarding MD.
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On June 25 2016 22:36 Tictock wrote:
On June 25 2016 22:27 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 22:21 Tictock wrote:
On June 25 2016 21:28 Superbia wrote:
TT lend me your thoughts


Almost caughtup.

I'd like to know where you are going with Moosy and Jealous.


Moosy's entrance feels too much like "hey guys, I'm claiming MAFIA, like I did last game I was TOWN". Feels too fake. I would expect town moosy to actually switch it up instead of doing nearly the same thing as last game.


You know I kinda felt the same... It was overblown especially with his interaction with Damdred.

I didn't get the same happy go lucky trolling feeling from him either, more like
[image loading]

I'm surprised you want to read Jealous based off an "I'm AFK" post.


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On June 26 2016 00:40 Tictock wrote:
On June 26 2016 00:33 Damdred wrote:
And who exactly is scum TT? Even outside me?


I could go with a yolo team of
Art/Damdred/Moosy

Though my gut feeling isn't so strong on Moosy atm ... (wasn't digging his opening though).

Looks pretty bad to me. Soft scumming a scum whilst pushing others. The first post is one of the only ones actually addressing MD.

That said, there wasn't much to go off on anyway so there is that.

Scumreads TT for him being soft gut reading Moosy.

On June 27 2016 05:57 Damdred wrote:
I also think moosey flips town though meh. Just a gut feel nothing to base it on


There is no way in world I'm gona believe you missed this post which is basically identical.
Also you talk about tunnelling after this is so ironic...
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#1237
On June 28 2016 03:23 GlowingBear wrote:
This game is hard.

What's your opinion on me anyway? You haven't posted a word on me if I didn't miss anything.
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#1238
Fully caught up now. Here's a list.

Full town: GB, JVJ, TT, Super
Sort of town: Jealous, Tumble, QT

Null: Chez
Sort of scum: (tempted to put Chez here)
Super scum: emp, Art, Damdred


GB, JVJ and Super are obvious towns for me I don't see a reason to scumread them at all. TT is there because he's thinking exactly the same way with me about Art/Damdred/emp and town should stay united.
Jealous is less town cuz he's a bit more difficult to read this game, I've skipped couple of his posts, have to re-read later on but nothing sticking out in particular.
Tumble was as afk as me in last 24h so I'd give him some objective discredit for that. Otherwise I like his posts.
QT needs to start playing good but I think there is no way he's in a mafia set up with Moosy as his teammate.
Chez is super afk, odds are not good on him. Still yet to post anything of a candy's value this game.

I'm super certain there is at least one mafia between last three. More leaning on Damdred compared to other two only by a thread. I think he should be our lynch tomorrow.
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June 27 2016 18:53 GMT
#1239
Also good lynch on Moosy lol. It's only just for him to flip mafia D1 for that super selfish and cowardy tactic of his. He really does let down his team both ways. Hope he changes it up in future.
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#1240
I can expand on reads if required, don't be hesitant to ask.
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#1246
On June 28 2016 04:15 Jealous wrote:
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On June 28 2016 03:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 28 2016 03:55 Skynx wrote:
I can expand on reads if required, don't be hesitant to ask.

Why are you hard townreading GB?
Why do you believe that having similar reads means someone's very likely to be town?
Why is emperor in the 'super scum' category, yet Chez is in null?

I am also interested in Skynx' answer to the first question. GB does not seem town to me right now.

[1]GB

This post 1st opened my eyes:
On June 25 2016 09:25 GlowingBear wrote:
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On June 25 2016 09:22 Damdred wrote:
I think art v qt is t v t.

Its good though keep it up.


Actually, doesn't it look like they are trying to distance from each other?

No one commented on this save Tumblewood. (also to an extent Art but he was more like ridiculing the idea rather than criticising) I thought it was a good hint at Damdred's 1st signs of being scummy.

He is actively trying to progress the game
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On June 27 2016 00:29 GlowingBear wrote:
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On June 27 2016 00:26 Superbia wrote:
On June 27 2016 00:24 GlowingBear wrote:
Superbia, what are your reads?


Unsure on Damdred.

Very unsure on Art given his last few posts, though I'm prone to stick with my earlier read on him (which is town).

By proxy I'm also iffy on TT. He has been more aggro this game than I expect from him d1.

Outside of those interesting players I would say:
Moosy should die.
EC should die.


Ok but I need townreads

We have to decide the mayor and the pardonner


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On June 26 2016 12:07 GlowingBear wrote:
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On June 26 2016 12:03 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 26 2016 10:31 GlowingBear wrote:
The fact that you're trying to discredit quicktwist while still calling him town makes me very suspicious of you.

why though
like, people call koshi bad all the time and it's the same exact thing


Because silently wanting to be elected as mayor is something I would expect from mafia. If I am mafia and I'm seeing town organising themselves - specially when a town player is being elected as president -, I would start to discredit people in order to push my agenda.

It's not like calling Koshi bad. I can call Koshi bad and not vote with him, but if Koshi was the towniest person in the game I would vote him 100% of the times simply because having a bad town mayor is better than risking having a good mayor that could be mafia


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On June 27 2016 00:42 GlowingBear wrote:
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On June 27 2016 00:31 Superbia wrote:
hbu?


I had QT as top town for the way he was engaging the thread. But he isn't here anymore. Kinda dropped a little but still my top town.

I have Tumble as probably town for his interest in the game and the way he was putting thoughts on what I've wrote. Downside is that I don't remember him giving any reads.

I had you as null to scummy but I like the way you came back to the thread. You're leaning town.

Damdred is leaning scum. I think most of his posts are disinterested, and that makes me suspicious of him. He is not naturally reacting to what has been posted but he is here. He just, from times to times, post reads and chill. The problem is that his town passes looks like the town passes he would give as town.

Moosy I have a gut feeling he is town. Mostly because he was naturally reacting to what I have been posting in here.

I don't know about jealous
I don't know about TT (I have a gut feeling he might be town)

Jean Valjean has very good posts and the only thing that gives me pause is his stiffness. Other than that, a townread.

Artanis usually follows the thread and inquire people more as town than when he is Mafia. I've seen him too defensive in this game. Actually, his approach to the thread seems quite similar to the last game where we played together where he was Mafia.

EC is my lynch of choice today. He needlessly discredited QT for mayor while still townreading him. Had very faint reads on his three townreads (the one on you was the worst). When I inquired him to explain he basically dodged, and when I asked a quotation on where you have being on point, he quoted your list post where you actually were very obscure on why Jean Valjean, with one post at the moment, was almost top town. It felt like he was simply making that up, not really believing in what he said.


Objective gaming. I think all these are some good posts that are constructive and add to the general scheme of town action. Finally this;

On June 26 2016 12:55 GlowingBear wrote:
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On June 26 2016 12:50 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 26 2016 12:37 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 26 2016 12:34 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 26 2016 12:22 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 26 2016 12:10 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 26 2016 12:07 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 26 2016 11:58 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 26 2016 11:48 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 26 2016 11:31 GlowingBear wrote:
[quote]

Do you have a better option?


At the moment I think that tumble or super are better.


Are you comfortable with calling them almost-confirmed town? If so, what makes you think they're town?
Also, what kind of approach do you think they have which makes them suitable to be president?


No, I don't think I'm comfortable calling them almost-confirmed town at this point. But I put them in a similar boat with QT. I think they have a more stable, considering play style, whereas I find QT more erratic.
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So, you're saying that QT, Tumble and Superbia are basically at the same level of towniness, is that right?

I'd like you to specify to me what exactly made you think they are town.


That's quite the order! I don't think I have time to make it exact so this synopsis will have to suffice:

Super: I see a very similar style of game play to what I saw last game when he was town. I think that his posts have been pretty on point.

Tumble: I think that he has been open with his thoughts, and I like the direction that he has been giving to the game so far. Many of his thoughts I find are echoing mine.

QT: I find that his posts have been very reminiscent of the last game. I think that he has shown consideration of the game so far.


I have no problem with your Tumble and QT reads, but I don't understand what you like on Superbia. I went to his filter and I saw a lot of questions with no follow-up to them. Also, I saw him town leaning on Jean Valjean when he had like just 1 post that was null at best. I don't really understand how his posts have been on point.

Also, do you have any idea how Superbia's scum meta is? Because although he might be playing a similar game to his last one, it doesn't necessarily mean he is town if his scum meta is pretty much the same as his mafia meta.


Btw can you quote a post where you think he was "on point"?


So I'll pussy(cat) out on the question answering stand-off since I'm heading to bed meow.

On June 25 2016 21:22 Superbia wrote:
I'm going to go with mainly gut again bc that actually worked out pretty well last d1.

Town:
- Art
- TW
- QT

Almost there:
- Chez
- TT
- Jin Valjean
- Damdred
- GB (least sure)

Somewhere:
- EC
- Skynx

On their way out of here:
- Moosy
- Jealous



This is Superbia being on point?
The post where he puts a guy as probably town for his opening only?

Yeah, I can't trust you. You might be mafia.



This conversation with emp is really good. Forces a lot of content out of him when he was all one liner posts. It is after this I went back to re-read emp and got my scumread.
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#1251
On June 28 2016 03:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
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On June 28 2016 03:55 Skynx wrote:
I can expand on reads if required, don't be hesitant to ask.

Why are you hard townreading GB?
Why do you believe that having similar reads means someone's very likely to be town?
Why is emperor in the 'super scum' category, yet Chez is in null?

[2]
I believe you referring to TT read. Well, I have my reasoning behind my scumreads that I'm confident in and 100% believe in them. If someone is thinking similar to you (mind you TT is very very similar) then there is no way they are mafia cuz I know I'm town myself.

[3]
emperor's filter fits perfectly to his newbie game where he was my scum teammate. I can see myself that my posting changed a lot after rolling town in 1day and if he was town I'd expect him to change as well.
So far I see no changes: constant 1 liners and joky posts which he likes a lot, followed by a 1 big read on JVJ which is totally wrong imo, then some forced reads and general posts fitting the category of "activity for sake of activity".

Chez is unreadable as I said before. I wouldn't feel comfortable voting for him when I'm confident on my other scumreads. He is totally afk and I think has some beef with me for no other reason than me not sucking his dick for presidency. Also if mafia has 2 super trolly/afk players after Moosy flip I think its ballsy beyond recognition.
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#1254
On June 28 2016 04:45 Damdred wrote:
SK how did I not comment on it when I see ifically said I disagreed but it was a good thought by GB?

Fibbing doesn't get you points.

Back to date day

"Hmm I suggest t v t, he suggests s v s... whats wrong about that, I'll give him credit. Why should I question a read that is polar opposite of mine anyway?"

Get real bro
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On June 28 2016 04:51 Damdred wrote:
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On June 28 2016 04:45 Damdred wrote:
SK how did I not comment on it when I see ifically said I disagreed but it was a good thought by GB?

Fibbing doesn't get you points.

Back to date day


I ho early don't know why nobody said this rip

On top of being a bad scum, your ego is unbearable. I'm not gona bother replying if you don't remember how to make sense.
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On June 28 2016 04:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
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On June 28 2016 04:51 Skynx wrote:
On June 28 2016 04:45 Damdred wrote:
SK how did I not comment on it when I see ifically said I disagreed but it was a good thought by GB?

Fibbing doesn't get you points.

Back to date day

"Hmm I suggest t v t, he suggests s v s... whats wrong about that, I'll give him credit. Why should I question a read that is polar opposite of mine anyway?"

Get real bro

You said no one commented on it, but Damdred really did. He was actually the first to ping it out. You might not like the content but he noticed it and read into it.

The reason Damdred townread it as he also said is because it showed a paranoid mindset from GB. Having the same opinion has nothing to do with alignments.

I don't know what you're trying to say here, it's not english. Anyway, go back to early D1, when i raised this question I was never bothered at him reading tvt or GB reading svs, but him no reacting to it and just playing along with it is not a town play. On top of that there is like 5 posts him claiming like best town/pres candidate whatever...
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On June 28 2016 05:01 Damdred wrote:
What ego exactly? I've been pretty pleasant the entirety of the game and even when insulting GB well GB understood what I was getting at and the game in question.

As for bad scum I'm actually one of the best scum on site so meh at that.

As for you being insulting for no reason, its apparent autocorrect got me
So no reason to get nasty for being called out on something factual.

Yep, I'm done here.
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On June 28 2016 05:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
ICELAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND

Playing 4 strikers didn't work
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#1288
Yeah, good shit. Poor QT tho he just cant survive a day
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Well, evidence is too great to be ignored here. Lets kill TT and see what happens.
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On June 28 2016 13:29 GlowingBear wrote:
Can we just lynch Damdred instead?

TT>Super if flips town>Damdred?
Or you can just pewpew Damdred anyway if you feel like it.
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I think I abandon my Art scumread for a number of reasons but if you want TL;DR his reactions are genuine and he was just defending Damdred for no reason.
On June 28 2016 06:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Just please please don't kill Damdred if I get shot.

If he's last mafia why defend someone who's like next on the list?
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Anyway. Nice thing is we can mislynch all 3 of Super/TT/Damdred and still win.
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On June 28 2016 14:52 Superbia wrote:
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On June 28 2016 14:08 Skynx wrote:
On June 28 2016 13:29 GlowingBear wrote:
Can we just lynch Damdred instead?

TT>Super if flips town>Damdred?
Or you can just pewpew Damdred anyway if you feel like it.


Didn't you think I was supertown yesterday? Am I misremembering?

On June 28 2016 03:49 Skynx wrote:
Fully caught up now. Here's a list.

Full town: GB, JVJ, TT, Super
Sort of town: Jealous, Tumble, QT

Null: Chez
Sort of scum: (tempted to put Chez here)
Super scum: emp, Art, Damdred


GB, JVJ and Super are obvious towns for me I don't see a reason to scumread them at all. TT is there because he's thinking exactly the same way with me about Art/Damdred/emp and town should stay united.
Jealous is less town cuz he's a bit more difficult to read this game, I've skipped couple of his posts, have to re-read later on but nothing sticking out in particular.
Tumble was as afk as me in last 24h so I'd give him some objective discredit for that. Otherwise I like his posts.
QT needs to start playing good but I think there is no way he's in a mafia set up with Moosy as his teammate.
Chez is super afk, odds are not good on him. Still yet to post anything of a candy's value this game.

I'm super certain there is at least one mafia between last three. More leaning on Damdred compared to other two only by a thread. I think he should be our lynch tomorrow.

yep, I never scumread you this game. I said we can lynch you if TT flip town while you were claiming tracker.

On June 28 2016 14:50 Damdred wrote:
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On June 28 2016 14:38 Skynx wrote:
Anyway. Nice thing is we can mislynch all 3 of Super/TT/Damdred and still win.


Also skynx kinda claimed scum here lol.

Since he knows all three of us will be mislynches.

"kinda claimed scum". You're past the point of being credible at anything, since Super admitted fake and TT is town I think we can start that trio with you.
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Anyway, since your claim is fake I've no other vote than Damdred right now. Game is over if we lynch him. In fact just straight up lynch me day after if he flips town that's how confident I am.
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#1379
On June 28 2016 15:03 Superbia wrote:
Skynx where you at >:|

I'm at work btw.
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On June 28 2016 16:13 Superbia wrote:
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On June 28 2016 16:01 Skynx wrote:
Anyway, since your claim is fake I've no other vote than Damdred right now. Game is over if we lynch him. In fact just straight up lynch me day after if he flips town that's how confident I am.


Why?

Read my filter for more elaborate reasons and specific quotes.
To summarize tho, townread on emp with no reasoning behind (altho he said he stated his reasoning in some posts), opinions on Moosy which i find scummy and much much other scummy posts. I can make a full case in evening if you guys feel its necessary but he's been there from the very start. Ever since Art is cleard and emp flipped scum I don't doubt my read.
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On June 28 2016 16:30 Superbia wrote:
Why is Art cleared? I agree that he's town but he's not cleared. x; His reads so far have been pretty el terriblè.

Yep, I think he's just having a bad town game.
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On June 28 2016 16:34 Jealous wrote:
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On June 28 2016 16:30 Superbia wrote:
Why is Art cleared? I agree that he's town but he's not cleared. x; His reads so far have been pretty el terriblè.

I didn't clear him. As I said, I don't like this buttbuddy status he has with Chezinu. Even if neither are scum, it is not helpful to the game. Chezinu has done practically nothing for the game, and Artanis will never act against him based on principle. Even if they are not scum, they are barriers to cohesive town play.

Mind you there is the exact same deal with damdred.
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I'm only voting for damdred today. Feel free to start with me the day after if the game is still going on.
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#1448
On June 29 2016 02:06 GlowingBear wrote:
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On June 29 2016 01:51 Damdred wrote:
I really don't know what to do with you GB, I had obviously clear stances d1.

Ec actually gave a thought I really liked didn't want to Lynch him, it's clearly documented, so I break policy and kill moose. Wifom as it is in that situation I know I'm probably going to solo it so why not kill the person who gives the most cred.

In any case the reasoning against me is pretty light.

I can excuse sk he's new never played with me, but some of you others tsk. Espevially after last game Tumblewood. Tsk indeed.

Feel my ire of soft words and loving caresses.

In any case I think the games over with a jealous Lynch.


I'll put up a case on you. After I do that you can defend yourself and just try to convince me. That's all you can do
It can happen, tho. I'm not that prick I used to be anymore. I think.

Lol thank you. I was debating pulling a case together or watching got
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On June 29 2016 04:16 Jealous wrote:
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On June 29 2016 03:35 Jealous wrote:
Now I will construct my argument for a Damdred scumlean:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/510385-presidential-election-mini-mafia?user=Damdred

If you look at the first page of his filter, he is all over the place. He gives out reads like candy with little to no substance, asks questions to multiple people about multiple other people which can all be boiled down to a simple "Why?" This seems like a classic case of misdirection and activity for the sake of activity. While the questions are pushing the game forward slightly (albeit blindly), he seems to mostly be building up his post count.

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On June 25 2016 08:20 Damdred wrote:
Let me be honest with you qt.

Ignore moosey for all of d1, he automatically tries to do strange things d1 do no matter alignment he can survive till d2.

Anyway art just easier to be on your good side atn

On June 25 2016 08:25 Damdred wrote:
I'm just saying don't make any judgements about moose till d2 as he will mostly be trollin. But unimportant.

Well tumble just a gut feeling, his sort of dodging super and being kinda meh got me,there. I think there was one answer in particular about super if I remember right that bugged me. It's still early


Here he gives the advice to outright ignore Moosy, as opposed to my stance which was "Moosy is not helping town." Yet, he seems it fitting to judge me for my stance? Hypocrisy at its finest. He pretty much gives him a free pass into D2.

In the second quote you can also see how he makes a soft push with gut but then takes a step back within two lines; this is quintessential fluff posting, that if skimmed over may seem like he is trying to work out the game but it really contributes nothing.

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On June 25 2016 08:30 Damdred wrote:
Idk why I'm taking this game serious: (. I think because I live the host and cohosts

How exactly is he taking this game seriously up until this point? This seems like one of those things where if read in a vacuum, it serves to establish himself was useful when he's been anything but.

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On June 25 2016 08:54 Damdred wrote:
Never lynching me Gliwingbear ever.

Anyeay, art is right I'm trying to dial in so I'm a good person to sheep.

As for the day pass yeah I generally give moosey one and it serves ok. It's like giving ls a day pass just works so well.

All-around terrible post that is also revealing.

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On June 25 2016 09:22 Damdred wrote:
I think art v qt is t v t.

Its good though keep it up.

"It's good though, let's let two people who I townread continue fighting in order to waste more time in D1."

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On June 25 2016 09:25 Damdred wrote:
Like right now I have a small town circle of

Super, art, qt, tumble, Damdred

D1 pass moosey

So already we have a nice schmuck taken out.

This is the third time he has mentioned a D1 pass for Moosy in under 20 posts.

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On June 25 2016 12:19 Damdred wrote:
Man chez is so town I feel he's going at the top of my town circle. Seriously.

The house of brown is great can I be a member this game chez and bring the politics of brown here?

Anyway I really can't substantiate my reads tonight as I'm in a movie I'll do it tommorow. And they all can be broke down as meta/shallow reasons atm. But my early gut reads are good meh.

I want to hear more on emperor and want tt to be in thread

Another freepass to Chez a la Artanis. "House of Brown" - doesn't take much intelligence to realize that this means playing a vague Red/Green alignment? What benefit does this have to town? Why does Damdred suck up to this mentality and want to become a participant in this detrimental and vague practice?

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On June 25 2016 12:23 Damdred wrote:
It's interesting only people I'd be happy lynching into today

Tt, sk, Jin, jealous

Emperor im not sure of yet kinda want to put him out of conversation.

But Im not sure why I don't buy the town reads on sk it just doesn't feel or look right to me yet.

Mostly policy reads so this is excusable, but giving a pass to EC? That's 2/2 scum D1 passes granted. How do you get off on questioning MY reads of EC/Moosy on D1 when this is your stance?

More to come.



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On June 25 2016 23:50 Damdred wrote:
How am i pushing shitty scum reads again?

Why are my townreads super lazy again when i've beat most of the game to the same reads exactly?

This post is terrible, largely because his scum reads ARE shitty (TT, SK, JVJ, Jealous) because they were all policy lynches. Those are base level scum reads. You make those based on a lack of content as opposed to anything actually said.

His townreads ARE super lazy and his stance is NOT vindicated by the fact that they are the popular reads at this juncture; popularity does not imply that his reads had any substance to begin with. He gave out townreads with zero evidence, which is super lazy. Also, super easy if you actually do know who town is, being scum.

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On June 26 2016 00:43 Damdred wrote:
Give good reasoning on them right now TT. since you want to lambast all of my reads and say they are all shit lets see it with a decent explanation.

Instead of proffering any explanation on his own reads, he pushes TT to explain HIS.

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On June 26 2016 01:09 Damdred wrote:
But on the other hand kind of want to townreads tt....hrmmm decisions come after food

Already flip-flopping only 26 minutes after the prior post; maybe he decided that TT was not an easy target anymore? Or maybe he wanted to appease TT so that TT wouldn't counter-pressure him into actually substantiating any of his claims?

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On June 26 2016 04:04 Damdred wrote:
Well we can't have everyone town read there has to be a scum even outside moosey for you tumble.

And Tt idk he just wasn't very smart in his postings took a post that was a compliment to him not being lynch bait now tried to use it to scum read me, and has been boring sense trying to make mud stick.

Flips on TT yet again. Also tries to divert attention from Moosy yet again.

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On June 26 2016 12:46 Damdred wrote:
Seriously why don't we make me mayor?

I'm still a good player, I'm obviously going to try this game and with double votes mafia has to kill me before lylo anyway.

It's the best of both worlds, a good dialed in scum hunting damdred with double votes

The summary of all of his (multiple) posts trying to get into a position of power. No substance at all besides "I'm a good player, guys!"

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On June 26 2016 22:25 Damdred wrote:
Nobody else over moosey super?

How can one defend Moosy so much and get away with it?

He goes on to make some long posts @Superbia where he actually does provide some content and explanations, but still pushes for a policy lynch on me.

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On June 27 2016 00:05 Damdred wrote:
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On June 27 2016 00:04 GlowingBear wrote:
Jesus you guys give people free town passes too easily


Nope

Lol.

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On June 27 2016 00:26 Damdred wrote:
Dear God super I've explained twice why I think jealous is mafia. For asking me so many questions you aren't reading ny posts at all?

I've been well,documented thinking Tt is scum

More like he stated multiple times why he wants to lynch me for inactivity and flip-flopped on TT multiple times.

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On June 27 2016 00:57 Damdred wrote:
I won't vote gb or super and neither should have the pardoned position.

And gb it's because you don't do well with these sorts of decisions tbh.

While I tr both all a sudden the last few pages have made me kind of suspicious on super just seems off now.

I would like to be pardoner or mayor. There will always be debate but I am one of the best players in this game. And idk why art isn't voting for me rip.


I have to check the timestamp but I think this is before he votes GB. This is another one of his "I am the best player, so I should be mayor," and another buttbuddy request to Art and Chez, a few of which I have omitted above because that's all they really are.

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On June 27 2016 02:12 Damdred wrote:
Where did I give ec a pass I've been,trying to decide if he's scum or been for awhile I didn't,mind his early posts. And these later ones aren't horrid he's at least thinking.

On June 27 2016 02:18 Damdred wrote:
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On June 25 2016 12:23 Damdred wrote:
It's interesting only people I'd be happy lynching into today

Tt, sk, Jin, jealous

Emperor im not sure of yet kinda want to put him out of conversation.

But Im not sure why I don't buy the town reads on sk it just doesn't feel or look right to me yet.


Gen I guess I did give him a halfway day pass

Horrible lie, good thing he got called for it.

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On June 27 2016 02:19 Damdred wrote:
I'm trying to remember what I was seeing. I think he said some things that were ok but kinda side lined wanted to see more from him.

But I probably would retract it but he's had some decent posts and went after a hard target so idk if I would lynch today

This is about EC.

"I'm trying to remember what I was seeing," when not too long prior he was supposedly reading filters, which he still could have done in order to better answer this question. Still hadn't given any concrete evidence thus far.

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On June 27 2016 02:50 Damdred wrote:
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On June 27 2016 02:47 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 27 2016 02:43 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 27 2016 02:40 GlowingBear wrote:
Reminder:

I AM NAMED VT

Vote me for mayor but REMEMBER TO SPREAD YOUR VOTES WITH SOMEONE VERY TOWNIE

Don't just vote me or you'll let Mafia have an easy time to decide the pardonner


Whether or not this is true, this is such a good play since you won't be able to be cop read once you are pardoner.


Actually has anybody discussed this, other than the fact that it's pretty much un-cc'able? I would feel OK about this if it were any other green / blue role.



Ec can be town today. Its a good thought.

Although I agreed with this at the time, and still do (about it being a good thought), in the context of Damdred's posts I wouldn't think it surprising that this is an example of collusion in a Mafia QT in order to have EC save some face and Damdred jumped on it instantly.

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On June 27 2016 05:05 Damdred wrote:
Ooooo crap jealous is scum.

He was the first to scum read chez and hasn't played with him.

Come brothers it,must be done.

So quick to create a wagon on me and suck up to Chez, in one breath and with no other rationale.

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On June 27 2016 05:08 Damdred wrote:
God the more I read the jealous post the more I hate it.

The gb read doesn't make sense at all, it sounds like a scum read for lack of activity no real contribution to the game. But town leans him anyway.

God that's craxy

On June 27 2016 05:09 Damdred wrote:
Like jealous isn't even reading the game it seems as its clear why gb is getting mayor because he's claimed blue lol?

On June 27 2016 05:16 Damdred wrote:
Just feels nm so fabricated idk what else to say about jealous reads.

A lot of safe reads I think or ones that seem safe.

Maybe I'm tainted by a bit of omgus but the list just seems strange to me.

On June 27 2016 05:17 Damdred wrote:
Idc about that now, really want other people's opinions about jealous read post. Really everyone weigh in

On June 27 2016 05:44 Damdred wrote:
That's the thing though jealous the whole,basis for gb running for mayor is in his filter.

And also your read still sounds like a scum read that ends in a non logical concussion.

Would still lynch Tt first for,not doing anything at all

On June 27 2016 05:54 Damdred wrote:
Lynch Tt Jean blah


Ironic when 1. he misread my GB read in the first place and 2. he has done far less in order to substantiate his own claims.

Pushes very hard for my or TT lynch. Is this what he meant by vindicated?

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On June 27 2016 05:57 Damdred wrote:
I also think moosey flips town though meh. Just a gut feel nothing to base it on

Some things don't change.

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On June 27 2016 07:13 Chezinu wrote:
On June 27 2016 06:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 27 2016 06:50 Jealous wrote:
On June 27 2016 06:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 27 2016 06:42 Jealous wrote:
On June 27 2016 06:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 27 2016 06:36 Damdred wrote:
Art I think w should move jealous up into the probably town.

Had a thought about him and his moosey read. Jean had a decent shot being mayor and lynching moosey wouldn't be a bad play to hard bus moosey there. Instead he gives a pretty good rationale read of a null.

Also even though moosey was about to flip scum he continued to give us reads because he had them, done.

Its kind of weak and,maybe a bit dumb but I think he's town now.

Why is sk so High again?

I thought he was town already but yeah that's good reasoning.

Skynx is that high because of his case on me which I find difficult to come from newbie scum.
On June 27 2016 06:38 Jealous wrote:
On June 27 2016 06:34 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 27 2016 06:33 Jealous wrote:
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Could you elaborate on why Chezinu is such a strong townread for you? I didn't see anything in his filter that would make me townread him, especially not so strongly.

Start of my filter

To me this makes the rest of your reads feel diluted if you are mixing in joke reads into them. What are your true feelings about Chezinu's filter?

I will not lynch the Chezinu. He is my friend.

No offense, but I find bias to be a poor mentality for this sort of game. Let me rephrase the question - What are your objective thoughts on Chezinu's filter? In other words, if you were not his friend, what would you make of his participation so far?

I will not lynch the Chezinu. He is my friend.

I don't like this answer ): Objectively analyzing a filter and sharing your conclusions would be to the benefit of the town, and you are dodging the responsibility.

I will not lynch the Chezinu. He is my friend.


Think he is jealous?


Are we friends chez?

He's STILL pushing this alliance, so desperately. I'm not surprised that Art jumped on his bandwagon against me now.

Everything after this is more recent.

So, conclusions:

1. Weak early game that he tries to claim was strong.
2. Baseless pushes for mayor/pardoner.
3. Constantly sucking up to Chez/Artanis in order to get a townie alliance going.
4. A lot of hypocrisy and flip-flopping.
5. A lot of EC/Moosy defense and free-pass giving.

##Vote Damdred

You covered pretty much all i had to say lol
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#1515
I'll be up for some discussion tomorrow irl but Art, as much as i have faith in yout honesty we should stick to facts. I'm sure Damdred is mafia as much as you believe he is town so we're getting nowhere here.

So here is a logical man's way out: if Damdred is going to get lynched, we should try to get as much as info out of it in case he rolls town.
I feel like the remaining mafia (in case its not D) is someone we are not even considering right now. I suggest everyone be active as much as they can tmox cuz scum WILL drop something.

Nn
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#1640
Bah I'm so nakkered but w/e, whats up then?
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#1644
Wow thats like impossible just cuz he could have easily just go for the other target (I forgot who) cuz no one would blame him for not lynching Moosy cuz of his bs tactics.
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On June 30 2016 04:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
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On June 30 2016 04:19 Skynx wrote:
Wow thats like impossible just cuz he could have easily just go for the other target (I forgot who) cuz no one would blame him for not lynching Moosy cuz of his bs tactics.

You are aware bussing is a thing right? And Moosy is someone likely to die at some point anyway. The cred could definitely be worth it. Plus, there'd have been a lot of backlash had he lynched a town Superbia, and in the eventuality of JVJ being scum it has to be him that brings it home.

Alright so here are few reasons why this is not that good of a strategy:
1) Moosy nearly always survive day1 the way I understand the meta so if you really want to bus someone the target definitely should've been emp cuz some were sr'ing him anyway.
2) Emperor didn't really bus Moosy or tried to get credit for the kill either which he has done in newbie mafia.
3) If he really want's to get cred as mafia I'd think he woulda add some flair to his post like how HF or Palmar does, you know one of those 'I'm a fkin god' memes. I think his cred for his kill kinda went under the radar.
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#1657
I don't think Chez is the right lynch either, who even believes he's an actual scum? Imo he can't be cuz there is no such tactic as all being afk/trolly the entire game.
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June 29 2016 19:42 GMT
#1664
These lynches are wrong. We're not hunting a confirmed scum here, we're just considering options. "Hmmm, I'm not feeling like chocolate today so lemme get strawberry ice cream" is wrong, it should be "Oh, I'm definitely feeling like caramel today!"
I feel like no one has been conclusive with their reasonings why someone can be scum. We should try a different approach.

Here is a thought, you know who's name haven't been mentioned at all by anyone today?
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On June 30 2016 04:37 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
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On June 30 2016 04:33 Skynx wrote:
On June 30 2016 04:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 30 2016 04:19 Skynx wrote:
Wow thats like impossible just cuz he could have easily just go for the other target (I forgot who) cuz no one would blame him for not lynching Moosy cuz of his bs tactics.

You are aware bussing is a thing right? And Moosy is someone likely to die at some point anyway. The cred could definitely be worth it. Plus, there'd have been a lot of backlash had he lynched a town Superbia, and in the eventuality of JVJ being scum it has to be him that brings it home.

Alright so here are few reasons why this is not that good of a strategy:
1) Moosy nearly always survive day1 the way I understand the meta so if you really want to bus someone the target definitely should've been emp cuz some were sr'ing him anyway.
2) Emperor didn't really bus Moosy or tried to get credit for the kill either which he has done in newbie mafia.
3) If he really want's to get cred as mafia I'd think he woulda add some flair to his post like how HF or Palmar does, you know one of those 'I'm a fkin god' memes. I think his cred for his kill kinda went under the radar.

1) Yeah, but Moosy will die at some point in the game before LYLO. When he's mayor and pulls the trigger, he gets the cred.
2) Uhh? We know for a fact both Emperor and Moosy were scum so I'm not sure what you're getting at here.
3) He kind of has been, but he couldn't do it too much given he stated it wasn't as much of a lynch where he expected to hit scum as much as it was policy and how they 'should' flip mafia in that situation.

Thinking of that, that might actually be the best reason yet why he might be town.

2) emp was getting scumread very highly. If lynching Moosy was a mafia decision he would surely put up some case on why we should lynch Moosy. I dunno how thats complicated...
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On June 30 2016 04:34 Jean Valjean wrote:
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On June 30 2016 04:23 Tictock wrote:
Eh maybe not.

So Jean assume this crazy town does in fact lynch you.

Would you say Chez should definitely be the next lynch?

Probably Chez

Possibly Artanis, but that's mostly because I don't want to live in a world where he is this bad and town. It's based on nothing but Artanis' skill level at the game.

Maybe Skynx, in face of overwhelming ignorance he seems to KNOW I am town, and his contributions dropped off quite fast. I don't want to call for people's head for not being bad, but who knows. My suspicions on him is mostly based on his strong early game and weak game ever since (which might be mafia indicative).

In general, I believe the game will sort of solve itself. GB is confirmed and unkillable so mafia must hunt for the bodyguard. We definitely have one unclaimed blue role so there's that too, which might help.

I do apologise for my absence. It's basically due to the fact that after my 1st scum game, I think I played 1 very good town game and playing good right now aswell so I got lazy because i was so town. Also other stuff like work and all but lack of activity today is purely due to lazyness
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On June 30 2016 04:47 Tumblewood wrote:
I don't think Jean ever has the balls to act this way as mafia. I would be incredulous if he pulled off that sort of bullying into power as scum.

Did you keep track of 1-day mafia? rayn was the #1 townread of everyone who turned out to be gf. I don't think its fair to disregard some1 being maf cuz if intentional aggressive or 'bullying' kinda play style being too much.
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On June 30 2016 04:51 Jealous wrote:
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On June 30 2016 04:41 GlowingBear wrote:
EC was really important for Mafia for he was the rolecop. With the rolecop ability EC could find the bodyguard faster. That's why Moosy sacrificed himself. That's why Mafia probably voted Jean Valjean day1 (so Mafia wouldn't lose probably their most important role).

That's why Damdred, voting me then hammering Jean, should be the most suspicious person to you guys. Regardless of his play, all hard evidence points him to be EC's partner. It amuses me that you guys are town reading Damdred after all that. He needs to get out of our way, no matter how townie you believe Damdred can be. I'm talking about HARD EVIDENCE.


Great post.

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On June 30 2016 04:42 Skynx wrote:
These lynches are wrong. We're not hunting a confirmed scum here, we're just considering options. "Hmmm, I'm not feeling like chocolate today so lemme get strawberry ice cream" is wrong, it should be "Oh, I'm definitely feeling like caramel today!"
I feel like no one has been conclusive with their reasonings why someone can be scum. We should try a different approach.

Here is a thought, you know who's name haven't been mentioned at all by anyone today?
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You've already responded to what I believe was the conclusive reasoning on Damdred, so I don't see how you can say this.

You were, I'm talking about accusations against Jeal/JVJ mostly, Damdred is my lynch.
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#1697
Alright lets try this, who's everyone's next target if Damdred dies tonight?
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On June 30 2016 05:00 Tictock wrote:
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On June 30 2016 04:53 Skynx wrote:
On June 30 2016 04:47 Tumblewood wrote:
I don't think Jean ever has the balls to act this way as mafia. I would be incredulous if he pulled off that sort of bullying into power as scum.

Did you keep track of 1-day mafia? rayn was the #1 townread of everyone who turned out to be gf. I don't think its fair to disregard some1 being maf cuz if intentional aggressive or 'bullying' kinda play style being too much.


This sounds like you should be considering a Jean lynch...

Thats very true but it's a different case here. Jean is currently getting lynched, so he's under pressure and he's defending himself calmly.
What I tried to say was more like someone who is actually pulling the strings while never ever getting pressure cuz everyone townread him from the start and we all forgot why he's even town at this point because his name never gets mentioned.

I would say there are only 3 such people: GB, TW and me. We never really got pressured at all this game but we're all getting townread. GB is confirmed vigi and I'm town myself. I'd have a very good re-read of his filter if i were you guys, even tho he's not the lynch tonight.
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#1736
Damdy are you around? Who are your top scums?
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#1746
Wow, Chez is actually going down. I think its like the worst lynch right now cuz it will make today a total waste of time if he flips town.
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#1772
I was just about to write how today was totally unproductive but I got what I wanted. Chez can go down.
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#1774
You played well Damdred, tonight's gona be interesting.
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#1796
On June 30 2016 05:37 Tumblewood wrote:
Does anyone actually think chez is scummy and not just "not townie"?

No one has an actual clear scum read.
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#1799
Who's feeling like shennanie? No time to explain.
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June 29 2016 20:47 GMT
#1807
Kill Jean.
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#1814
His Damdred vote came out of absolutely nothing, he's now switching to Chez for absolutely nothing aswell. There is more i can quote and shit but no time rly.
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#1822
This entire day I was waiting for someone to jump on Damdred train and he did when Damdy was like townest, he played really good last 24h.
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#1824
On June 30 2016 05:51 Jean Valjean wrote:
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On June 30 2016 05:49 Skynx wrote:
His Damdred vote came out of absolutely nothing, he's now switching to Chez for absolutely nothing aswell. There is more i can quote and shit but no time rly.

Damdred vote came out of a super long good case written by jealous.

That case came out 24h ago, you had all this time to read that and be "wow thats a good case". Why now?
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#1830
Fine, either way we need to step up our game.
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#1845
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#1852
At least he wasn't blue. Goodnight.
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#1879
Fakkin hell Jeal got 30-day ban
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#1880
On June 30 2016 12:51 Damdred wrote:
Actually sk, can you explain in greater detail why you went

Damdred lock scum-only lynching damdred-Shenanigan onto jean.

While I appreciate the sentiment especially silly since I thinknive been Towny. Why was it so bad you think for him to vote me there? What caused your read change on me?

I know you partially answered already but just indulge me.

Yeah I will expand on my EoD potentially during lunch break if not in the evening.
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#1881
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On June 30 2016 10:04 Jealous wrote:
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On June 30 2016 08:45 IAmWithStupid wrote:
On June 30 2016 00:21 LDaVinci wrote:
Is there any way you guys can perma ban the Russian guy on the top whose post seems to be very offensive toward women ?
Unless "quality wife material" is not offensive in english/american then I have a problem of language barrier.
Unless talking about a StarCraft player only as wife potential has suddenly become perfectly fine.

The post has been reported already probably by dozens of people. I, as a guy, find it offensive. I can imagine for the players.

Lol, triggered! What if I told you, I don't even play StarCraft, but I love watching it. It is my passion. On the other note, I really love cooking, it is my second passion and I see no problem being in the kitchen (yet another offensive joke, if you know what I mean). If my wife was a SC player and I could make some delicious meal for her while she is playing and then, just for example, watch Code S together, I would call it a big success in life. I would be happy. What is offensive in that?! Chill, mate!

*adjusts glasses* Okay listen here you cis male scum, saying things like "wife material" means that you are qualifying the woman in regards to her value as a mate for a man, implying that she has no value if she were not "wife material" and that only a thirsty male such as yourself can determine whether or not she is worthy of your attention which by the way no one asked for, also what if the "wife" you are looking at is a lesbian or trans or asexual or sexually fluid? *scoff* How dare you push your black-and-white zero-sum worldview of sexuality on unsuspecting innocent women simply because of the gender they were born with, heellloooo this is 2016. Go read a book you ignorant misogynist! DOWN WITH MEN!

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June 30 2016 08:23 GMT
#1883
I thought maybe he can create a smurf for rest of the game?
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#1885
On June 30 2016 12:51 Damdred wrote:
Actually sk, can you explain in greater detail why you went

Damdred lock scum-only lynching damdred-Shenanigan onto jean.

While I appreciate the sentiment especially silly since I thinknive been Towny. Why was it so bad you think for him to vote me there? What caused your read change on me?

I know you partially answered already but just indulge me.

Alright. So my hardcore scumread on you was based on two main aspects: defending emperor (cuz emperor getting shot is a shock to mafia) and your play with Arantis with all the reasons I previously posted. As the game progressed, Art defended in a very towny way so i dropped him. You however were still trying to push TT as your only excuse which looked very scummy to me, plus when emp flipped and my Art read dropped I thought I caught scum for real.

Now towards end of 1st half of D2, you made few very good posts including this:
On June 29 2016 04:41 Damdred wrote:
I don't think I'll escape the Lynch today and for the re order n this situation I would just concede, it's way to bm to waste everyone's time when I just can't win anyway.

Anyway jealous case is actually bad.

1) Early weak reads as he calls it is a staple of my game, I'm a huge tone and gut reader early usually these takes some form of semblance as the game progresses.

You can see an example of this in almost any of the 50 games I've played in the database. Like this is just super easy to defend against. It's just something I do and something I'm really successful with.

And generally besides with ec I've been right this game

2) I think 3/4 of the game made a baseless push for mayor this is really a non point. Really there as 6-7 people who wanted it. Doesn't make anyone scum.

3) Art and I butt heads wanted to head that off he works better without pressure as town. I generally catch him n1 as scum anyway. As for chez he was just really Towny for him, and idk why an alliance with chez would be good anyway? I just enjoy he guy. Really doesn't make anyone scum and is a narrative you are trying to force.

4) As for hypocrisy you would have to point them out tbh, me and tt went back and forth about hypocrisy which ended in my mind pretty amicably during the night and a funny gif during d1. Though flip flopping doesn't make anyone scum, generally only town flip flop super fast and care free. It's part of the problem with no information vs all info.

5)Don't think I defended moose as I said before just gave him a d1 pass as is the general policy I use and a few others use on him as well. As for ec well I ended up making a bad read because I read to much into paranoia. It happens it sucks we all are wrong sooner or later.

Honestly the case is just a myriad of my posts that are plastered together to fill a narrative that I m scum, many are missing direct context of the thread and lacks clear responses by players that could influence the discussion.

A lot of it also is painting me in a scummy light just to do so a lot of it also doesn't make anyone scum.

Overall the case is poor and I see it coming from scum more than town.

this was just after Jeal's big ass post so I thought you defended in such a town fashion here. That being said I kept going, hoping someone would jump on the boat for no reason at all. Then, Jean did after a suite of non-conclusive posts none of which showed a clear target.

I went back to re-read a lot today, checked emp and Moosys interactions and whole of D2. I don't think he's scum anymore.
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 30 2016 19:30 GMT
#1915
Who's around? I'm gona post big stuff soon.
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 30 2016 20:14 GMT
#1919
So here is a compiliation of everyone thats still alive's reads on Tumble:

+ Show Spoiler [GB] +
On June 27 2016 00:42 GlowingBear wrote:
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On June 27 2016 00:31 Superbia wrote:
hbu?


I have Tumble as probably town for his interest in the game and the way he was putting thoughts on what I've wrote. Downside is that I don't remember him giving any reads.




+ Show Spoiler [Jealous] +
On June 27 2016 04:59 Jealous wrote:
Tumblewood: + Show Spoiler +
Pretty weak play so far. Has only posted one or two substantiated reads. This quote from him sums it up: "like, there's playing the game, and then there's trying to solve the game. most of us are just playing the game right now..." Don't like him so far, but not enough to say he's scum.






+ Show Spoiler [Damdy] +
On June 29 2016 04:45 Damdred wrote:
...
I guess tumble is possible but doubtful I think...
...
Just Lynch jealous then weigh tumble sk. Lynch chez by the third if he hasn't contributes. Then you are in mylo, hopefully GB is alive to pardon to force a 2 v 1 that's the only time to ever really go for Jean.


On June 28 2016 15:15 Damdred wrote:
Like

I'm really sure art is town and super is town

GB is confirmed

So that leaves, jealous, tt, sky,jean, sk, tumble

Pretty sure tw is town in that group, Jean probably is to just alight paranoia




+ Show Spoiler [Arantis] +
On June 26 2016 07:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Absolutely 100% confirmed town
Chezinu


Town
Damdred
Skynx
Tumblewood
Quicktwist


Townish
Subpa
rbia
-power gap-
Emperorarechampion

Null
GlowingBear
Jealous
MoosyDoosy

Mildly leaning mafia
Jean Valjean

Lean mafia
Ticktock


On June 25 2016 09:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
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On June 25 2016 09:30 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 25 2016 09:22 Damdred wrote:
I think art v qt is t v t.

Its good though keep it up.

maybe
art feels a little too on the offensive to rule out s v t for me

I actually hate this reason normally (feel like scum tend to be more appeasing) but on me it's accurate.

No town points for you though. Don't think you know me enough for that!

On June 27 2016 04:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
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On June 27 2016 04:36 Damdred wrote:
On June 27 2016 04:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 27 2016 04:31 Damdred wrote:
Why am I not even being considered for pardoner when I an the best person ons ite finding town and actually being right?

Literally I am the most level headed and incapable of omgus for a long time. Get me pardoner and gb mayor.

I'd be fine with it. Just not sure you'll get enough support anyway.


Kinda sad isn't it?

Eh I'm kinda fine with both Jean and Tumble getting it too. Pretty confident in both being town atm.

On June 27 2016 19:41 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
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On June 27 2016 19:38 Jean Valjean wrote:
I tried to read through Tumblewood's filter. At least the first part of it doesn't seem to have anything outright scummy, and he seems to be at least trying to probe what is going on in the game, so there's that.

I have a hard townread on TW and I don't remember entirely why. I think it was because his read development and inquiries felt very natural. He also helped push away from me getting lynched both by reading me townier and by proxy of pushing TT whereas it would be in mafia's best interests to get me lynched and assure it.

On June 29 2016 06:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Just scrolled through Tumble's filter to make sure. Way too relaxed to be mafia.

On June 29 2016 07:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
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On June 29 2016 06:54 Damdred wrote:
On June 29 2016 06:46 Jealous wrote:
On June 29 2016 06:42 Damdred wrote:
I've put several decent arguments into the thread why I am not scum. Sure they do have wifom about them which makes them a somewhat weaker because I'm self aware of my meta.

Like don't get me wrong I like both you and sk regardless if I get lynched both of you have the makings of good players that just need to improve some peripheral things. That's besides the point though.

Honestly btw we can't wait till lylo or mylo to look into Jean or else he automatically wins if he is scum in lylo which is what I'm paranoid about. His post just sent shivers up my spine. Which stinks I can't be on the combo but maybe the way moosey gave himself up to Jean is indicative.

I meant the case on who else you have scum leans on!


Sadly I haven't built a case and I'll try to get it done by tommorow but I kind of think it's between Jean and you.

Maybe tumble in a distant third but I doubt that one.

And the way you are interacting with me does get you something.

Tumble is never scum here.

On June 29 2016 07:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Big list o' people town should never lynch
Artanis
Damdred
GlowingBear

Tumblewood
Skynx

100% confirmed town BFF
Chezinu

On June 30 2016 06:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Well, uhh.
A thought came to mind. Tumblewood made a tonne of sense during the game and made lots of observations that I didn't think scum would make.

Them I remembered Tumblewood in the game he played with Tina as town made absolutely no sense. Kept forgetting his own reads and forged stuff that he only found later.

Clearly he must be scum because he's making too much sense and is playing too well.



+ Show Spoiler [JVJ] +
On June 26 2016 20:16 Jean Valjean wrote:
I would like to remind everyone that I am running for Mayor. I am absolutely certain I am the best person to hold the office. In order to help my bid here is a quick summary of my reads and reasons for them:

Tumblewood: (True Null)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=25806659




On June 27 2016 00:06 Jean Valjean wrote:
..
As with Artanis, you are another player that has no excuse to scumread me at present, so I'll do you the favor of adding myself to your townlist. This means you're townreading the following people:

Artanis
Damdred
Chez
Tumble
Superbia
Jean
QT

..


On June 27 2016 19:38 Jean Valjean wrote:
I tried to read through Tumblewood's filter. At least the first part of it doesn't seem to have anything outright scummy, and he seems to be at least trying to probe what is going on in the game, so there's that.


On June 29 2016 21:13 Jean Valjean wrote:
..
Tumblewood has been more backgroundy than most, but every time I read posts by him I just think he doesn't sound like what mafia would sound like. I'm sort of letting him off as town.
..



+ Show Spoiler [TT] +
On June 26 2016 14:05 Tictock wrote:
Humm I think I've decided I want Tumble to be the mayor.

Dude is very obviously town and has a solid head on his shoulders.

##Vote: Tumblewood


On June 27 2016 08:20 Tictock wrote:
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On June 27 2016 02:04 Tumblewood wrote:
ok holy shit tt is scum.
On June 26 2016 18:36 Tictock wrote:
On June 26 2016 17:58 Superbia wrote:
On June 26 2016 11:47 Tictock wrote:
On June 26 2016 07:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Absolutely 100% confirmed town
Chezinu


Town
Damdred
Skynx
Tumblewood
Quicktwist


Townish
Subpa
rbia
-power gap-
Emperorarechampion

Null
GlowingBear
Jealous
MoosyDoosy

Mildly leaning mafia
Jean Valjean

Lean mafia
Ticktock


Lol, total 180 on QT. Now I'm your main scumread kus I called you and Damdred boring.

Good shit.


TT. srsly. Did you not read the thread at all? x: I barely skimmed before and I knew art 180d on QT like 20hrs before he made that list. Are you not paying any attention to your scumreads?


Yea I saw him drop his scumread, but putting QT in his top 4 town now? That's a pretty big swing in thinking.

Also think his read on me is mostly OMGUS and he's throwing out weak meta to try and cover it.

- scumreading art for changing his read too fast. pls that's town if anything.
- stupid misattribution of art's push
On June 26 2016 18:51 Tictock wrote:
On June 26 2016 18:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 26 2016 18:36 Tictock wrote:
On June 26 2016 17:58 Superbia wrote:
On June 26 2016 11:47 Tictock wrote:
On June 26 2016 07:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Absolutely 100% confirmed town
Chezinu


Town
Damdred
Skynx
Tumblewood
Quicktwist


Townish
Subpa
rbia
-power gap-
Emperorarechampion

Null
GlowingBear
Jealous
MoosyDoosy

Mildly leaning mafia
Jean Valjean

Lean mafia
Ticktock


Lol, total 180 on QT. Now I'm your main scumread kus I called you and Damdred boring.

Good shit.


TT. srsly. Did you not read the thread at all? x: I barely skimmed before and I knew art 180d on QT like 20hrs before he made that list. Are you not paying any attention to your scumreads?


Yea I saw him drop his scumread, but putting QT in his top 4 town now? That's a pretty big swing in thinking.

Also think his read on me is mostly OMGUS and he's throwing out weak meta to try and cover it.

Yeah no. If anything, I tend to reverse OMGUS more than anything since I figure mafia is unlikely to go after me as I'm difficult to lynch. This game however, too many people have so I've softened that up a little.

I think there's a good chance you're mafia and waivering it away as an OMGUS read doesn't really negate that in the slightest.


Well I'm gunna take your word about your mafia play with a grain of salt, I think I've only played a game or two with you as town.

Eh I call it as I see it, you dropped your read on QT then quoted a post of mine saying you didn't like it. Then you brought up some weak meta about my town game being "interesting" and bam I'm your top scum read (though you seemed more interested questioning Jean).

Looks like you're early read got squashed by thread sentiment so you went looking for new people to push.

- narrative
- narrative
- more narrative
On June 26 2016 19:21 Tictock wrote:
On June 26 2016 19:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 26 2016 19:09 Tictock wrote:
On June 26 2016 19:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 26 2016 18:54 Tictock wrote:
On June 26 2016 18:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I also have a natural bias against OMGUSing because I know people tend to view scumreading someone that suspects you as such so I tend to focus on other people. It's kinda funny/stupid but it's true.


So then maybe you should explain your read on me a little better.

You've been a complete non-factor throughout the game, mostly just echoing sentiments of others. Your focus point has been on things other than reads in the early game when you did have time, such as plans on mayor/pardoner. You also seem very stuck in your reads, no fluidity at all and call me out for changing my reads as if it were a scum factor, and don't really seem to be attempting to unearth people's alignments.


Do you think this is a scum trait in general or specific to me?

Calling me a non-factor is just hurtful + Show Spoiler +
and not particularly accurate imo


I am kinda holding back on my reads some, I can agree that can be kinda scummy. Prob just gunna have to deal with it though.

I think it is true in general. I also think it's true for you in the sense that you're a lot more interesting when you're town than what's currently going on.


Yea see this just shows you have no real understanding of my meta...

And you're wrong, I'm pretty darned interesting.

I know... my mom told me.

impressively manages to dismiss art's read entirely without a real counter, just "you don't know me."

basically I don't see why tt would make these cases as town... they're so far-fetched and only really make sense as a justification rather than a reason.


Oh Tumble...

My point regarding Art's meta on me is that he's doing it so shallowly. I'm much more stagnant in my reads as town than as mafia and am decently well know to tunnel people for days. Hell even just look at last game where I was tunneled on Super going into the last day before rereading stuff and being convinced by Jealous my thinking was probably not on point.

"You don't know me" is about as valid of an argument I can think of when someone is pushing a shitty meta argument on me.


On June 27 2016 08:49 Tictock wrote:
I'm still about 10 pages (little less) behind and am gunna have to finish catching up later.

Here is where I am at (not in any particular order)

Town
: (prob never lynching)
Tumbleweed
GlowingBeer
Supbarbia
QuickTwister



On June 28 2016 19:14 Tictock wrote:
Though tbh I think I'm mostly locked into Damdred because of PoE at this point. I don't really see Chez being scum atm, but I also don't really know how to read him. I tonally read both Tumble and Jealous as town but I'm not sure I have really solid reasons to think they are for sure.

Everyone else I'm fairly confident in being town.

There was also a comment I recall Damdred making about Emp that I thought was weird, stands out even more with Emp flipping town. Gunna see if I can find it, then I'm doing morning stuff.


On June 30 2016 06:13 Tictock wrote:
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On June 30 2016 06:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Well, uhh.
A thought came to mind. Tumblewood made a tonne of sense during the game and made lots of observations that I didn't think scum would make.

Them I remembered Tumblewood in the game he played with Tina as town made absolutely no sense. Kept forgetting his own reads and forged stuff that he only found later.

Clearly he must be scum because he's making too much sense and is playing too well.


Eh, it's possible but I think that game you are reffering to was one of Tumble's first games?

His play has evolved quite a bit over time... though by that same thought it's possible he's playing a fairly solid scum game.




+ Show Spoiler [Super] +
On June 25 2016 21:22 Superbia wrote:
I'm going to go with mainly gut again bc that actually worked out pretty well last d1.

Town:
- Art
- TW
- QT



On June 27 2016 00:30 Superbia wrote:
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On June 27 2016 00:29 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 27 2016 00:26 Superbia wrote:
On June 27 2016 00:24 GlowingBear wrote:
Superbia, what are your reads?


Unsure on Damdred.

Very unsure on Art given his last few posts, though I'm prone to stick with my earlier read on him (which is town).

By proxy I'm also iffy on TT. He has been more aggro this game than I expect from him d1.

Outside of those interesting players I would say:
Moosy should die.
EC should die.


Ok but I need townreads

We have to decide the mayor and the pardonner


Mayor = me.

Pardonner can be tumble or jean.


On June 27 2016 04:10 Superbia wrote:
I'd much, much rather see tumblewood take that position.



+ Show Spoiler [Me] +

On June 26 2016 19:00 Skynx wrote:
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On June 26 2016 18:52 Skynx wrote:
QT is pretty town but he wouldn't make a good pres for reasons Tumble stated earlier on.
Anyway i also agree with both roles take pri

both roles take priority for having given to 100% townies before experienced players. That being said, both persons should be confident of their votes and not easily being swayed by other opinions (See Jealous last days of Newbie mafia).
GB and TT give me that feeling most with Tumble being next on the list, you can also vote for me btw. Super is null for me so far and he's swingy in votes anyway and shouldn't be given the role.
Rest should not even be discussed.

On June 26 2016 19:05 Skynx wrote:
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On June 26 2016 19:01 Tictock wrote:
On June 26 2016 18:49 Skynx wrote:
GB for pres TT for pardonner plz.


Why GB?

Would you consider Tumble for pres?

+ Show Spoiler [Or...] +
Chez for Prez?

I'm thinking GB is more confirmed town than Tumble atm.

Chez would prolly make a worse pres than our PM.

[QUOTE]On June 28 2016 03:49 Skynx wrote:
Fully caught up now. Here's a list.

Full town: GB, JVJ, TT, Super
Sort of town: Jealous, Tumble, QT

Null: Chez
Sort of scum: (tempted to put Chez here)
Super scum: emp, Art, Damdred


Tumble was as afk as me in last 24h so I'd give him some objective discredit for that. Otherwise I like his posts.

/QUOTE]


This actually took quite some time so here's a TL;DR: Everyone has Tumble as town for a variety of reasons but nearly everyone has some doubts and again most people sometimes don't remember why they even townread him at first place.
More to come.
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 30 2016 20:23 GMT
#1922
This more important one is emperor's play.
On June 26 2016 12:22 emperorchampion wrote:
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On June 26 2016 12:10 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 26 2016 12:07 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 26 2016 11:58 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 26 2016 11:48 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 26 2016 11:31 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 26 2016 11:14 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 26 2016 10:31 GlowingBear wrote:
The fact that you're trying to discredit quicktwist while still calling him town makes me very suspicious of you.


I'm saying that his style of play is not well suited to leadership.


Do you have a better option?


At the moment I think that tumble or super are better.


Are you comfortable with calling them almost-confirmed town? If so, what makes you think they're town?
Also, what kind of approach do you think they have which makes them suitable to be president?


No, I don't think I'm comfortable calling them almost-confirmed town at this point. But I put them in a similar boat with QT. I think they have a more stable, considering play style, whereas I find QT more erratic.
.

So, you're saying that QT, Tumble and Superbia are basically at the same level of towniness, is that right?

I'd like you to specify to me what exactly made you think they are town.


That's quite the order! I don't think I have time to make it exact so this synopsis will have to suffice:

Super: I see a very similar style of game play to what I saw last game when he was town. I think that his posts have been pretty on point.

Tumble: I think that he has been open with his thoughts, and I like the direction that he has been giving to the game so far. Many of his thoughts I find are echoing mine.

QT: I find that his posts have been very reminiscent of the last game. I think that he has shown consideration of the game so far.


On June 27 2016 02:51 emperorchampion wrote:
So yeah, I'm going for a bike ride, hopefully I'll be back before EoD. I think I'm just going to park my vote on Tumble for now.

Scum always have some kind of objective with their vote. It's also not a town mentality to not vote for a common candidate.
"Many of his thoughts are echoing mine" is like total bs anyway cuz emp was all one liners up to this point.
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Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 30 2016 20:32 GMT
#1924
On June 26 2016 13:04 Tumblewood wrote:
ok now I focus on ec
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On June 26 2016 12:22 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 26 2016 12:10 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 26 2016 12:07 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 26 2016 11:58 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 26 2016 11:48 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 26 2016 11:31 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 26 2016 11:14 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 26 2016 10:31 GlowingBear wrote:
The fact that you're trying to discredit quicktwist while still calling him town makes me very suspicious of you.


I'm saying that his style of play is not well suited to leadership.


Do you have a better option?


At the moment I think that tumble or super are better.


Are you comfortable with calling them almost-confirmed town? If so, what makes you think they're town?
Also, what kind of approach do you think they have which makes them suitable to be president?


No, I don't think I'm comfortable calling them almost-confirmed town at this point. But I put them in a similar boat with QT. I think they have a more stable, considering play style, whereas I find QT more erratic.
.

So, you're saying that QT, Tumble and Superbia are basically at the same level of towniness, is that right?

I'd like you to specify to me what exactly made you think they are town.


That's quite the order! I don't think I have time to make it exact so this synopsis will have to suffice:

Super: I see a very similar style of game play to what I saw last game when he was town. I think that his posts have been pretty on point.

Tumble: I think that he has been open with his thoughts, and I like the direction that he has been giving to the game so far. Many of his thoughts I find are echoing mine.

QT: I find that his posts have been very reminiscent of the last game. I think that he has shown consideration of the game so far.

these reads are not very thought out. you could press the button on generictownreadgenerator.com a few times and get the same results.
also his response to gb's questioning is pretty meh, just one step above picking a random post from super's filter.

Very hanging read, what does it mean? This is just creating some interaction for some town points, quite useless otherwise.

On June 25 2016 09:30 Tumblewood wrote:
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On June 25 2016 09:22 Damdred wrote:
I think art v qt is t v t.

Its good though keep it up.

maybe
art feels a little too on the offensive to rule out s v t for me

On June 26 2016 04:02 Tumblewood wrote:
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On June 26 2016 03:58 Damdred wrote:
Thing is idk why tumble has Tt as probably town and me as nukl. It doesn't make a ton of sense.m to me here.

Sk is interesting though Super aggro but he's ignoring obvious answers to questions that are just a few posts later so I am feeling wishy washy so far

tt had a couple posts that felt good I think maybe
skynx is def town because he's so clearly trying to solve the game

On June 26 2016 08:42 Tumblewood wrote:
jean feels a little too obvious to be scum
like he has all the tells kinda but it just doesn't feel right
not sure how to phrase it


Using that word "maybe" a lot. Again pretty safe reads without actually saying a lot.

On June 26 2016 12:05 Tumblewood wrote:
I'm thinking our best candidate for mayor is super because he's town (and I feel pretty solid about that) and he's not a scrub.

More lazy reasonings. Tumble i know from newbie game shows his thought process behind every read.

You guys have to consider his posts with a scum pow. He has to reach conclusions he knows he's bullshitting while trying to make sense. That's why most of the time mafia won't post big cases and play safe with just little reads about everyone.

That's all for now. If i die tonight please reconsider your Tumble read people. I think he's never as town as we thought he is.
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 01 2016 05:32 GMT
#1992
On July 01 2016 09:17 Jealous wrote:
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On July 01 2016 09:05 Damdred wrote:
But I will say I would shoot people that tr me if they can catch me ie rs, hf, Jat, palmar.

In this situation I wouldn't shoot art I think.

But it's so wifom,because he was the hardest read town person in the game everyone else people hesitate on.

What do you think is more likely scum play:

1. Someone who Artanis suspected was scum is getting rid of Artanis?
2. Someone who Artanis read as town getting rid of Artanis because suspicion on them would be unlikely?

Arantis is an interesting kill but I doubt it is based on suspicion. He was nk'd more so because he's prolly never getting lynched this game.
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 01 2016 11:43 GMT
#2025
On July 01 2016 19:37 Jealous wrote:
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On July 01 2016 19:32 Jealous wrote:
Bah, scum wouldn't even need to shenanie in D5, they would just have to vote for Jean just like the other two players remaining and that'd be a wrap if Jean was town.

Yea, damn, I didn't put enough time into the above post. I thought it would be pretty simple to math it out but it's mad complicated. Even if we forget PRs for a moment, there are the following scenarios:

1. Jean is scum, and pardon has been used.
2. Jean is scum, and pardon has not been used.
3. Jean is not scum, and pardon has been used.
4. Jean is not scum, and pardon has not been used.

Each requires their own mathematical breakdown.

Agh.

Mafia can also hold their shot.
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 01 2016 14:36 GMT
#2042
On July 01 2016 20:52 Jealous wrote:
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On July 01 2016 20:28 Jean Valjean wrote:
On July 01 2016 20:13 Jealous wrote:
On July 01 2016 19:43 Superbia wrote:
It's not that difficult.

1. Pardon if bodyguard is about to get lynched.
2. Pardon if glowingbear and bodyguard are alive during final 4.

The reasons as to why pardon will be used are not mathematically relevant, it's the fact that to prepare for all possible scenarios one needs to examine both whether it does or does not happen, whether Jean is scum or not scum.

As you said, Jean cannot be in the final 3. My argument is that he cannot be in the final 4, either.

This is a dumb discussion and you should reconsider if you actually think this.

Essentially you're telling the scum "hey, if you get a mislynch today, you'll get a free extra one tomorrow!"

We're not going to default lynch, we're going to keep lynching the most scummy people until the game ends.


True, especially the last bit. However, being short-sighted has already cost us. I don't think it's bad practice to map all the possible roads this game can take.

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On July 01 2016 20:43 Skynx wrote:
On July 01 2016 19:37 Jealous wrote:
On July 01 2016 19:32 Jealous wrote:
Bah, scum wouldn't even need to shenanie in D5, they would just have to vote for Jean just like the other two players remaining and that'd be a wrap if Jean was town.

Yea, damn, I didn't put enough time into the above post. I thought it would be pretty simple to math it out but it's mad complicated. Even if we forget PRs for a moment, there are the following scenarios:

1. Jean is scum, and pardon has been used.
2. Jean is scum, and pardon has not been used.
3. Jean is not scum, and pardon has been used.
4. Jean is not scum, and pardon has not been used.

Each requires their own mathematical breakdown.

Agh.

Mafia can also hold their shot.

To what benefit? Can you elaborate?

The only thing I can think of is to potentially force a vet to claim because he will think he has been shot?

Prevents a kill, same as a pardon. Not to any benefit but since i didn't understand the logic i just pointed it out
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 01 2016 14:38 GMT
#2043
Anyway where are you Tumble? You got a few votes on you bro.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 01 2016 19:02 GMT
#2062
On July 02 2016 03:43 Jean Valjean wrote:
Never flipping mafia:

JVJ
Damdred
GB
Jealous

Townie:

Superbia
Skynx

Flip flop material:

tictock
tumblewood

Pretty much same for me, just TT and super a bit higher (or just move Tumble down).
Super has just been way too useful this gane. I highly doubt Moosy would get lynched without him. I also don't see scum Super going for fake claim. I won't rly lynch him.

TT had reasonable and in depth reads on some people. Genuine reaction to fc and general pressure, I'd put him townie.

So yeah, if Tumble doesn't flip scum this game is super hard
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 01 2016 19:33 GMT
#2066
On July 02 2016 04:29 Damdred wrote:
What worries me is if the bodyguard is scum and shoots GB tonight and we don't know who the confirmed scum is.

But yeah there ways to make sure they are town etc I think

In that case Jean just tells us who bg is and we kill him.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 01 2016 19:39 GMT
#2069
Ah then that would be bad yeah
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 02 2016 09:59 GMT
#2166
gg

Man emp I wish you roll town on your next game
Tumble you were unlucky in a sense that you were playing the exact same role as rayn from 1day so i knew what I was up to but yeah my pushes were weak. It's been a busy last few days for me
I hope you change your D1 playstyle Moosy, it really benefits neither alignment.

Well played by all townies. Checks won the game and reads were on point. Enjoyed this game even tho i was so busy outside.

Big up to my coach who i'm sure will reveal himself soon
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 02 2016 22:27 GMT
#2178
On July 03 2016 03:08 emperorchampion wrote:
GG all

A+ game skynx

Awww <3 hey i really hope you roll town next time it changes your perspective a lot ^^
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
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