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On July 01 2016 09:05 Damdred wrote:
But I will say I would shoot people that tr me if they can catch me ie rs, hf, Jat, palmar.
In this situation I wouldn't shoot art I think.
But it's so wifom,because he was the hardest read town person in the game everyone else people hesitate on.
Damdy, I'm not going to lynch you for now. I decided to trust Artanis read on you. It doesn't mean I won't point out things that aren't good reasons to read you as town.
Don't get me wrong, I may disregard what Artanis wrote on you, but I'll drop the scum read for today.
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On July 01 2016 12:27 Tictock wrote:D1 VC also makes a lot of sense with Tumble being mafia. I think I mentioned before that Emp's vote was weird when I was thinking Jean was making the epic bus. It makes sense with Tumble being scum. Show nested quote +On June 27 2016 05:55 Rels wrote:
Day 1 Final Votecount
Jean Valjean (6): Artanis[Xp], Jean Valjean, MoosyDoosy, QuickTwist, Jealous, Damdred
GlowingBear (4): Superbia, GlowingBear, Tumblewood, Skynx, Damdred
Tumblewood (2): Tictock, emperorchampion
Artanis[Xp] (1): Chezinu, Artanis[Xp]
Jealous (0): Jealous
Superbia (0): Tumblewood, Superbia, MoosyDoosy
Skynx (0): Skynx
QuickTwist (0): GlowingBear
And ofc scum tend to spread votes, but that's w/e.
I find hard to believe Tumblewood would vote me when I clearly stated I would lynch his rolecop
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On July 01 2016 12:53 Damdred wrote:
Both ec and moose were going down hard. Idk
Moosy voted JVJ so he would be lynched instead of EC. If he did something like that we can assume Mafia team considered that EC's role was important. If Mafia team considered that EC's role was important, so we can assume that it is most likely that the last member DIDN'T vote for me day1
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On July 01 2016 13:04 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2016 12:57 GlowingBear wrote:On July 01 2016 12:53 Damdred wrote:
Both ec and moose were going down hard. Idk Moosy voted JVJ so he would be lynched instead of EC. If he did something like that we can assume Mafia team considered that EC's role was important. If Mafia team considered that EC's role was important, so we can assume that it is most likely that the last member DIDN'T vote for me day1 No offense to Moosy... But you are giving his "sacrificial" play too much credit and planning.
I do think he claimed scum because that's how he plays, but I also believe that he pushed that claim way harder because he wanted to get lynched before EC. He asked me "GB, will you lynch me?". When I said "no", he proceeded to vote JVJ. I doubt he would move to JVJ if I said I'd lynch Artanis, for example.
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Also, this made me realise he could give the mayor role to me. Which probably makes JVJ town.
I mean, if JVJ was really scum, Moosy wouldn't consider giving the mayor role to me.
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On July 01 2016 20:30 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2016 20:13 Jealous wrote:On July 01 2016 19:43 Superbia wrote:
It's not that difficult.
1. Pardon if bodyguard is about to get lynched.
2. Pardon if glowingbear and bodyguard are alive during final 4. The reasons as to why pardon will be used are not mathematically relevant, it's the fact that to prepare for all possible scenarios one needs to examine both whether it does or does not happen, whether Jean is scum or not scum. As you said, Jean cannot be in the final 3. My argument is that he cannot be in the final 4, either. Jean should be looked at tomorrow.  I can elaborate on this but I probably won't today.
You should probably do it today. I'm flipping my read on him.
I don't want to lynch people inside my wagon day1 and I don't want to lynch Damdred today because I respect the read Artanis brought. The pool is very narrowed.
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Jealous, what's your read on JVJ?
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On July 02 2016 00:23 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2016 23:54 GlowingBear wrote:On July 01 2016 20:30 Superbia wrote:On July 01 2016 20:13 Jealous wrote:On July 01 2016 19:43 Superbia wrote:
It's not that difficult.
1. Pardon if bodyguard is about to get lynched.
2. Pardon if glowingbear and bodyguard are alive during final 4. The reasons as to why pardon will be used are not mathematically relevant, it's the fact that to prepare for all possible scenarios one needs to examine both whether it does or does not happen, whether Jean is scum or not scum. As you said, Jean cannot be in the final 3. My argument is that he cannot be in the final 4, either. Jean should be looked at tomorrow. I can elaborate on this but I probably won't today. You should probably do it today. I'm flipping my read on him. I don't want to lynch people inside my wagon day1 and I don't want to lynch Damdred today because I respect the read Artanis brought. The pool is very narrowed. If you believe your bodyguard is town then Jean living to tomorrow is irrelevant.
I still don't get it...
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On July 02 2016 03:08 Jealous wrote:Despite my initial misgivings, I have been leaning town on him for a while. I will have to look through his filter to see if that should change.
I'd love if you did it. I'm really interested.
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On July 02 2016 03:37 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2016 01:36 Superbia wrote:On July 02 2016 00:59 Damdred wrote:
It's unlikely in this setup for us to have a medic/RB/jailer or vet of some kind I think. Depends. Nah super unlikely Basically if you give bodyguard to a town and both mayor and pardoner are town already mafia is forced to shoot into like 7 people n1. Throw in a medic save and mafia is highly behind already. It just isn't balanced IMO, I mean you do have idiot medic moves but n1 qt should of been saved if we have a medic or jk. Also GB I think you should claim who the bg is like 5 seconds before eon if we don't hit mafia today, agree or disagree?
I thought about that but I don't think I'll do such thing. There was only 1/11 chance I gave the bodyguard to the wrong person. I think the chance that he's town is big. So I'd rather just let Mafia struggle trying to kill the bodyguard.
That's also the reason why I'd lynch JVJ today. Just so we don't bring an unconfirmed town with 2x vote to LYLO.
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On July 02 2016 03:58 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2016 03:42 Jean Valjean wrote:On July 02 2016 03:37 Damdred wrote:On July 02 2016 01:36 Superbia wrote:On July 02 2016 00:59 Damdred wrote:
It's unlikely in this setup for us to have a medic/RB/jailer or vet of some kind I think. Depends. Nah super unlikely Basically if you give bodyguard to a town and both mayor and pardoner are town already mafia is forced to shoot into like 7 people n1. Throw in a medic save and mafia is highly behind already. It just isn't balanced IMO, I mean you do have idiot medic moves but n1 qt should of been saved if we have a medic or jk. Also GB I think you should claim who the bg is like 5 seconds before eon if we don't hit mafia today, agree or disagree? As of today I'm basically sure Damdred is my #1 townread. GB does not need to claim BG per say. The better play is to claim one (or two) people who are definitely not the bodyguard. That way if GB die we have Jean and that person as confirmed town. I wanted to say this later but w/e.
This crossed my mind. But if the BG is Mafia then he just need to shoot the fake BG and then incriminate JVJ is he is town. It may just lead to wifom.
I've already done my part of fake claims. I'll be extremely from now on.
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On July 02 2016 04:29 Damdred wrote:
What worries me is if the bodyguard is scum and shoots GB tonight and we don't know who the confirmed scum is.
But yeah there ways to make sure they are town etc I think
Then town will just have to figure out who is scummy based on gsmeplay instead of relying on mechanics 
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By the way, all this talk is just narrowing the bodyguard pool. Let's just not talk about this anymore
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I think JVJ's flip is really necessary now
Sorry JVJ
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On July 02 2016 05:47 Damdred wrote:
We still have a lynch after this one though gb before mylo
That's why we can afford lynching him
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On June 27 2016 03:23 Shapelog wrote:
Day 1 Votecount
GlowingBear (4):Superbia, GlowingBear, Tumblewood, Skynx
Jean Valjean (3): Artanis[Xp], Jean Valjean, MoosyDoosy,
Tumblewood (2): Tictock, emperorchampion,
Artanis[Xp] (1): Chezinu, Artanis[Xp]
Jealous (1): Jealous
Superbia (0): Tumblewood, Superbia, MoosyDoosy,
Skynx (0): Skynx
QuickTwist (0): GlowingBear
Not Voting (2): Damdred, QuickTwist
As of now, Glowingbear will become Mayor and Jean Valjean will become Pardoner!
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On July 02 2016 06:18 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2016 05:57 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2016 03:23 Shapelog wrote:
Day 1 Votecount
GlowingBear (4):Superbia, GlowingBear, Tumblewood, Skynx
Jean Valjean (3): Artanis[Xp], Jean Valjean, MoosyDoosy,
Tumblewood (2): Tictock, emperorchampion,
Artanis[Xp] (1): Chezinu, Artanis[Xp]
Jealous (1): Jealous
Superbia (0): Tumblewood, Superbia, MoosyDoosy,
Skynx (0): Skynx
QuickTwist (0): GlowingBear
Not Voting (2): Damdred, QuickTwist
As of now, Glowingbear will become Mayor and Jean Valjean will become Pardoner!
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This votecount is more informational than the final votecount Elaborate please?
Well
With Tumblewood and Skynx votes, I would be the mayor. I was going to lynch their rolecop. So it is very unlikely that them both are mafia. It is more likely that they are town.
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On July 02 2016 06:41 Jean Valjean wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2016 06:37 GlowingBear wrote:On July 02 2016 06:18 Jealous wrote:On July 02 2016 05:57 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2016 03:23 Shapelog wrote:
Day 1 Votecount
GlowingBear (4):Superbia, GlowingBear, Tumblewood, Skynx
Jean Valjean (3): Artanis[Xp], Jean Valjean, MoosyDoosy,
Tumblewood (2): Tictock, emperorchampion,
Artanis[Xp] (1): Chezinu, Artanis[Xp]
Jealous (1): Jealous
Superbia (0): Tumblewood, Superbia, MoosyDoosy,
Skynx (0): Skynx
QuickTwist (0): GlowingBear
Not Voting (2): Damdred, QuickTwist
As of now, Glowingbear will become Mayor and Jean Valjean will become Pardoner!
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This votecount is more informational than the final votecount Elaborate please? Well With Tumblewood and Skynx votes, I would be the mayor. I was going to lynch their rolecop. So it is very unlikely that them both are mafia. It is more likely that they are town. I think you're vastly overestimating the importance of a rolecop.
In a game that top town may not be killed if there is a bodyguard alive AND in a game where there could be more than one blue role out there? I'm pretty sure I'd vote you if I were mafia if the second wagon was claiming they would lynch my rolecop.
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On July 02 2016 06:49 Jean Valjean wrote:
Had you clearly announced your intention to kill when the votes came in for you?
Yes. Those votes were like 1 and a half hours before EOD (at least it's what the time stamp is saying) and I'm pretty sure I declared I was going to lynch EC before that.
Moosy clearly said he would vote you because I was going to lynch someone else.
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On July 02 2016 07:36 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2016 06:49 Jean Valjean wrote:
Had you clearly announced your intention to kill when the votes came in for you? Yes. Those votes were like 1 and a half hours before EOD (at least it's what the time stamp is saying) and I'm pretty sure I declared I was going to lynch EC before that. Moosy clearly said he would vote you because I was going to lynch someone else.
And by someone else I meant EC
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