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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
June 25 2016 00:02 GMT
#308
On June 25 2016 08:59 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2016 08:57 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:53 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:49 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:44 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I kinda only want to lynch the people I don't know. Think I caught the Chez virus
CAN'T LYNCH FRIENDS


wooow let's be friends

[image loading]


I hope you don't put our friendship near your butt, ew.

oh g0d I really want shapelog to post some gifs about now.


I'm a bit of a gif newb, butt this seems like the one NSFW obvs

+ Show Spoiler +
http://giphy.com/gifs/rock-years-over-Ogxe3jSdivKbm

this is actually pretty gross. xd 10/10

Show nested quote +
On June 25 2016 08:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:57 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:51 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:47 QuickTwist wrote:
So... are we past the BS stage or not?

On June 25 2016 08:47 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:46 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:42 GlowingBear wrote:
[quote]

Awesome joke, 10/10

The puns are getting unbearable already.


5/7, keep growling

ftfy

This actually makes me think you're mafia.
"Hurr I'm annoyed that people are bullshitting"
*joins in on the bullshitting*
Not buying it.


Not buying that since nothing noteworthy has happened in the thread and I am joking means I'm Scum.. OK.

So you don't "buy" that I was just playing along.. Why?


On June 25 2016 07:25 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:21 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:19 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:12 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:10 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:02 Superbia wrote:
[quote]

Who'd you lynch?


Kinda early for this isn't it? Or was this a joke?


No? Maybe he had an idea or direction.


I thought dicking around the first few pages is what people do here. Am I missing something?


Why'd you bring up the stuff about me? Seems like it was kind of serious. Were you just dicking around then? ;x


Oh, yeah. I don't like RVS too much. I am known for ending RVS early at my home site. I prefer to get things going more seriously early than dicking around, but I thought you were one of the people who like to take things light early so I'm not sure I get the pseudo kinda sorta scum hunting.

On June 25 2016 07:43 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:40 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:25 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:21 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:19 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:12 Superbia wrote:
[quote]

No? Maybe he had an idea or direction.


I thought dicking around the first few pages is what people do here. Am I missing something?


Why'd you bring up the stuff about me? Seems like it was kind of serious. Were you just dicking around then? ;x


Oh, yeah. I don't like RVS too much. I am known for ending RVS early at my home site. I prefer to get things going more seriously early than dicking around, but I thought you were one of the people who like to take things light early so I'm not sure I get the pseudo kinda sorta scum hunting.


I think the idea is to fill up your filter as much as possible so no one wants to read it ecks dee


What do you mean? That is not my plan this game at all.

You do not strike me as a joking player. You weren't kidding about these comments, so clearly you want to get the game going. Your latest comment suggests an actual annoyance regarding people messing around, and then immediately after you make a pun to join in on the very thing you just bitched about, which strongly implies you were just attempting to blend in/look townie by pretending you want to move the game into the 'serious' phase without actually doing so.

I believe there's a good chance you're mafia.

lolol QuickTwist is town

Why?

he's behaving basically like the game he was just in. if you just skim through d1 there it's a breeze and you'll see what i'm talking about.

I'm scrolling through his newbie game now and I'm really not getting that impression. He was joking around a decent bit in the early game whilst posting reads through it as well here and there. I don't see the sudden disconnect that happened in this game.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
June 25 2016 00:05 GMT
#311
On June 25 2016 09:01 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2016 08:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:51 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:47 QuickTwist wrote:
So... are we past the BS stage or not?

On June 25 2016 08:47 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:46 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:42 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 25 2016 06:52 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 06:48 GlowingBear wrote:
OHAI, I'm town

Makes me mayor


Do you want to bear that responsibility?


Awesome joke, 10/10

The puns are getting unbearable already.


5/7, keep growling

ftfy

This actually makes me think you're mafia.
"Hurr I'm annoyed that people are bullshitting"
*joins in on the bullshitting*
Not buying it.


Not buying that since nothing noteworthy has happened in the thread and I am joking means I'm Scum.. OK.

So you don't "buy" that I was just playing along.. Why?


On June 25 2016 07:25 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:21 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:19 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:12 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:10 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:02 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 06:58 Skynx wrote:
I'll happily be your first muslim president. I won't stop till all red are wiped out.


Who'd you lynch?


Kinda early for this isn't it? Or was this a joke?


No? Maybe he had an idea or direction.


I thought dicking around the first few pages is what people do here. Am I missing something?


Why'd you bring up the stuff about me? Seems like it was kind of serious. Were you just dicking around then? ;x


Oh, yeah. I don't like RVS too much. I am known for ending RVS early at my home site. I prefer to get things going more seriously early than dicking around, but I thought you were one of the people who like to take things light early so I'm not sure I get the pseudo kinda sorta scum hunting.

On June 25 2016 07:43 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:40 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:25 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:21 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:19 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:12 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:10 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:02 Superbia wrote:
[quote]

Who'd you lynch?


Kinda early for this isn't it? Or was this a joke?


No? Maybe he had an idea or direction.


I thought dicking around the first few pages is what people do here. Am I missing something?


Why'd you bring up the stuff about me? Seems like it was kind of serious. Were you just dicking around then? ;x


Oh, yeah. I don't like RVS too much. I am known for ending RVS early at my home site. I prefer to get things going more seriously early than dicking around, but I thought you were one of the people who like to take things light early so I'm not sure I get the pseudo kinda sorta scum hunting.


I think the idea is to fill up your filter as much as possible so no one wants to read it ecks dee


What do you mean? That is not my plan this game at all.

You do not strike me as a joking player. You weren't kidding about these comments, so clearly you want to get the game going. Your latest comment suggests an actual annoyance regarding people messing around, and then immediately after you make a pun to join in on the very thing you just bitched about, which strongly implies you were just attempting to blend in/look townie by pretending you want to move the game into the 'serious' phase without actually doing so.

I believe there's a good chance you're mafia.

idk what narrative is but this is narrative
don't like this read at all, feels forced

It's a tone-based read.
QT expressed that he doesn't like the random voting stage/silliness going on.
QT expresses it again.
Makes a joke instantly afterwards.
None of that is narrative. It's tonally inconsistent.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
June 25 2016 00:06 GMT
#314
On June 25 2016 09:04 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2016 09:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:59 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:57 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:53 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:49 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:44 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I kinda only want to lynch the people I don't know. Think I caught the Chez virus
CAN'T LYNCH FRIENDS


wooow let's be friends

[image loading]


I hope you don't put our friendship near your butt, ew.

oh g0d I really want shapelog to post some gifs about now.


I'm a bit of a gif newb, butt this seems like the one NSFW obvs

+ Show Spoiler +
http://giphy.com/gifs/rock-years-over-Ogxe3jSdivKbm

this is actually pretty gross. xd 10/10

On June 25 2016 08:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:57 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:51 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:47 QuickTwist wrote:
So... are we past the BS stage or not?

On June 25 2016 08:47 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:46 GlowingBear wrote:
[quote]

5/7, keep growling

ftfy

This actually makes me think you're mafia.
"Hurr I'm annoyed that people are bullshitting"
*joins in on the bullshitting*
Not buying it.


Not buying that since nothing noteworthy has happened in the thread and I am joking means I'm Scum.. OK.

So you don't "buy" that I was just playing along.. Why?


On June 25 2016 07:25 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:21 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:19 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:12 Superbia wrote:
[quote]

No? Maybe he had an idea or direction.


I thought dicking around the first few pages is what people do here. Am I missing something?


Why'd you bring up the stuff about me? Seems like it was kind of serious. Were you just dicking around then? ;x


Oh, yeah. I don't like RVS too much. I am known for ending RVS early at my home site. I prefer to get things going more seriously early than dicking around, but I thought you were one of the people who like to take things light early so I'm not sure I get the pseudo kinda sorta scum hunting.

On June 25 2016 07:43 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:40 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:25 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:21 Superbia wrote:
[quote]

Why'd you bring up the stuff about me? Seems like it was kind of serious. Were you just dicking around then? ;x


Oh, yeah. I don't like RVS too much. I am known for ending RVS early at my home site. I prefer to get things going more seriously early than dicking around, but I thought you were one of the people who like to take things light early so I'm not sure I get the pseudo kinda sorta scum hunting.


I think the idea is to fill up your filter as much as possible so no one wants to read it ecks dee


What do you mean? That is not my plan this game at all.

You do not strike me as a joking player. You weren't kidding about these comments, so clearly you want to get the game going. Your latest comment suggests an actual annoyance regarding people messing around, and then immediately after you make a pun to join in on the very thing you just bitched about, which strongly implies you were just attempting to blend in/look townie by pretending you want to move the game into the 'serious' phase without actually doing so.

I believe there's a good chance you're mafia.

lolol QuickTwist is town

Why?

he's behaving basically like the game he was just in. if you just skim through d1 there it's a breeze and you'll see what i'm talking about.

I'm scrolling through his newbie game now and I'm really not getting that impression. He was joking around a decent bit in the early game whilst posting reads through it as well here and there. I don't see the sudden disconnect that happened in this game.

did you read later on where the shit really hit the fan with the jealous vs quicktwist fight? He was very defensive when people brought him up, was very pointed in his comments, etc which is what I'm reading here but without the early D1 euphoria of that game.

No, I didn't get that far, but a single similarity with his towngame does not imply that he is town to me. I'll read on, but if you can expand on exactly what it was (defensiveness is not what made me ping QT out here) I'll try to see what you see.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
June 25 2016 00:09 GMT
#315
On June 25 2016 09:05 QuickTwist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2016 08:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:51 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:47 QuickTwist wrote:
So... are we past the BS stage or not?

On June 25 2016 08:47 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:46 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:42 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 25 2016 06:52 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 06:48 GlowingBear wrote:
OHAI, I'm town

Makes me mayor


Do you want to bear that responsibility?


Awesome joke, 10/10

The puns are getting unbearable already.


5/7, keep growling

ftfy

This actually makes me think you're mafia.
"Hurr I'm annoyed that people are bullshitting"
*joins in on the bullshitting*
Not buying it.


Not buying that since nothing noteworthy has happened in the thread and I am joking means I'm Scum.. OK.

So you don't "buy" that I was just playing along.. Why?


On June 25 2016 07:25 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:21 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:19 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:12 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:10 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:02 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 06:58 Skynx wrote:
I'll happily be your first muslim president. I won't stop till all red are wiped out.


Who'd you lynch?


Kinda early for this isn't it? Or was this a joke?


No? Maybe he had an idea or direction.


I thought dicking around the first few pages is what people do here. Am I missing something?


Why'd you bring up the stuff about me? Seems like it was kind of serious. Were you just dicking around then? ;x


Oh, yeah. I don't like RVS too much. I am known for ending RVS early at my home site. I prefer to get things going more seriously early than dicking around, but I thought you were one of the people who like to take things light early so I'm not sure I get the pseudo kinda sorta scum hunting.

On June 25 2016 07:43 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:40 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:25 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:21 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:19 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:12 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:10 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:02 Superbia wrote:
[quote]

Who'd you lynch?


Kinda early for this isn't it? Or was this a joke?


No? Maybe he had an idea or direction.


I thought dicking around the first few pages is what people do here. Am I missing something?


Why'd you bring up the stuff about me? Seems like it was kind of serious. Were you just dicking around then? ;x


Oh, yeah. I don't like RVS too much. I am known for ending RVS early at my home site. I prefer to get things going more seriously early than dicking around, but I thought you were one of the people who like to take things light early so I'm not sure I get the pseudo kinda sorta scum hunting.


I think the idea is to fill up your filter as much as possible so no one wants to read it ecks dee


What do you mean? That is not my plan this game at all.

You do not strike me as a joking player. You weren't kidding about these comments, so clearly you want to get the game going. Your latest comment suggests an actual annoyance regarding people messing around, and then immediately after you make a pun to join in on the very thing you just bitched about, which strongly implies you were just attempting to blend in/look townie by pretending you want to move the game into the 'serious' phase without actually doing so.

I believe there's a good chance you're mafia.


If I am serious and no one else is being serious, I gain literally nothing out of taking the game seriously at this point. So while, yes I would definitely prefer to take the game seriously, I am pretty much left out of the game if I continue to be serious while everyone else dicks around. I generally am not the joking type unless I do it to make a point. But tbh, I don't care if I "don't not strike you as a joking player" because you haven't played a single game with me. So basically your argument is based off meta that you don't have of me.

And I can say why is it Scummy for me to joke when everyone else is doing it? What if I just gave up trying to be serious for the time being since it was basically no use? You are using a Scum narrative of me without considering the other side of the coin that I could be Town just trying to join in with the jokes as a player new to this site. I said I don't really know this sites meta (don't know where) and if I start joking along with you guys you are going to Scum read me for that? WTF? How can I even play here if I can't be serious and I can joke either? I wouldn't be surprised if you used the piss poor argument that I am being serious now so that means I am mafia.

My read on you not being a joking player is based on you literally saying it multiple times in the thread. There's no word-twisting going on there, nor will I scumread you for "suddenly taking it seriously". The scumread is based on you appearing pissed that no one's being serious, followed instantaneously after by a pun.

The point I'm trying to make is that if you were _actually_ pissed that people weren't being serious, you wouldn't join in on the jokes afterwards. Pissed/annoyed people tend not to do that. The fact that you did suggests you're actually quite content with how things are going.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
June 25 2016 00:17 GMT
#317
Well I just went through QT's filter on his previous game and apparently he's been lynched a lot. I didn't find anything like the tonally inconsistent thing that I pinged out though, and lynchbait rolls mafia too so eh.

Anyway, only a few hours into D1. We'll see what develops.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
June 25 2016 00:33 GMT
#332
On June 25 2016 09:30 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2016 09:22 Damdred wrote:
I think art v qt is t v t.

Its good though keep it up.

maybe
art feels a little too on the offensive to rule out s v t for me

I actually hate this reason normally (feel like scum tend to be more appeasing) but on me it's accurate.

No town points for you though. Don't think you know me enough for that!
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
June 25 2016 00:39 GMT
#335
On June 25 2016 09:37 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2016 09:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 25 2016 09:30 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 25 2016 09:22 Damdred wrote:
I think art v qt is t v t.

Its good though keep it up.

maybe
art feels a little too on the offensive to rule out s v t for me

I actually hate this reason normally (feel like scum tend to be more appeasing) but on me it's accurate.

No town points for you though. Don't think you know me enough for that!

just tunnel for another day if you want to collect your townread
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2016 09:36 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Although she seriously needs to stop trying to transition into Mutalisks in ZvP. It's garbage in LotV unless the opponent throws their army like Welmu did. It was okay in HotS but not okay in LotV.

yeah I know right totally

I was talking about your alignment though my friend. Mine is already clear.

Also tunneling is the thing I do as mafia moreso so that wouldn't make any sense
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
June 25 2016 01:08 GMT
#344
On June 25 2016 09:54 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm pretty comfortable to call quick twist town right at the moment.

I think Artanis pushes on quick twist are kinda unnatural, but it's mostly a gut feel

M8 you're not going to get me mislynched no matter how hard you try. Just give up on the plans before you give yourself away.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
June 25 2016 10:19 GMT
#400
Hello!

I no longer think QT is mafia. This is extremely upsetting. I kinda didn't want to let go of it because if I was right I'd feel like a dunce

I'm curious though, QT, why do you have a scum lean on me? You said yourself that the reason I was scumreading you made sense for most players, and now you're applying it to TW.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
June 25 2016 10:38 GMT
#402
On June 25 2016 19:31 QuickTwist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2016 19:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Hello!

I no longer think QT is mafia. This is extremely upsetting. I kinda didn't want to let go of it because if I was right I'd feel like a dunce

I'm curious though, QT, why do you have a scum lean on me? You said yourself that the reason I was scumreading you made sense for most players, and now you're applying it to TW.


I am assuming (based off a single game played with TW) that he mostly falls under the "normal" player category. Don't get this confused with "weak" player, just that his style isn't super different or anything.

And I left a whole argument on him and all you have to say is "you're scum reading him for being a normal player," which is not my reason for Scum reading him, which, my Scum read on him is not very strong now.

I don't know how I feel about you even questioning me about my read on him in this way.. I can think of Scum doing that to paint TW to be more Scummy than he is... That should show you where I'm at in my read on him at least.

My reason for Scum reading you is based on your push on me which was largely unfounded and built upon assumptions of my play. I know I am a weird player, but when people start giving reasons I don't see myself doing, I have to admit the OMGUS comes out in me a little.

Look, here's the problem for me.
A) You accuse me of an unfounded read based upon your character differing from most people. This, to me, seems the foundation of your scumread on me (or at least not asking about it)
B) You proceed to use this argument on a player that you, as far as I'm aware, don't know enough about in his character to make the same judgement call.
Essentially, you're doing something to TW that you scumread me for, so I'm asking what's up. My question is in relation to you, not TW.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
June 25 2016 10:54 GMT
#404
On June 25 2016 12:48 Damdred wrote:
Just a couple, your initial response to my opening post was good and showed you were reading carefully.

The post about art/qt about distancing while I disagreed showed a nice jumping around logic and looking at things from different hard to see angles.

I'm fact I don't think mafia GB makes that post especially going after art who is almost impossible to Lynch as town.

So yeah just some fun thinking from you. I think your town actually.

I don't agree with GB not going after me. He went after HF every time he was in a game with him, though I think you're right in that he's probably town for the deeper thought processes.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
June 25 2016 11:00 GMT
#406
On June 25 2016 19:55 QuickTwist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2016 19:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 25 2016 19:31 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 19:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Hello!

I no longer think QT is mafia. This is extremely upsetting. I kinda didn't want to let go of it because if I was right I'd feel like a dunce

I'm curious though, QT, why do you have a scum lean on me? You said yourself that the reason I was scumreading you made sense for most players, and now you're applying it to TW.


I am assuming (based off a single game played with TW) that he mostly falls under the "normal" player category. Don't get this confused with "weak" player, just that his style isn't super different or anything.

And I left a whole argument on him and all you have to say is "you're scum reading him for being a normal player," which is not my reason for Scum reading him, which, my Scum read on him is not very strong now.

I don't know how I feel about you even questioning me about my read on him in this way.. I can think of Scum doing that to paint TW to be more Scummy than he is... That should show you where I'm at in my read on him at least.

My reason for Scum reading you is based on your push on me which was largely unfounded and built upon assumptions of my play. I know I am a weird player, but when people start giving reasons I don't see myself doing, I have to admit the OMGUS comes out in me a little.

Look, here's the problem for me.
A) You accuse me of an unfounded read based upon your character differing from most people. This, to me, seems the foundation of your scumread on me (or at least not asking about it)
B) You proceed to use this argument on a player that you, as far as I'm aware, don't know enough about in his character to make the same judgement call.
Essentially, you're doing something to TW that you scumread me for, so I'm asking what's up. My question is in relation to you, not TW.


My foundation for my read on you lies in you saying I had Scum mindset without you having a working narrative of my personality, is only part of it. The other part is fabrication as to what you thought I was trying to accomplish. I'm sure you can see how when someone gets accused of ill intent when there is none to be had there is a bit Sus.

No, I don't like you boiling down my read on TW to that.. its not the same thing. I am Scum reading TW because post 349 pinged me in a bad way. I then decided on a whim to investigate this and found there was something I could make a small case out of so I followed up with that.

I don't see how this is the same type of thing regarding your Scum read on me and my Scum read on TW. I just don't see it that way at all. You're going to have to pin point what you mean exactly - I'm not seeing it.

I may simply be reading into your post wrongly. I meant this part of your case on TW:
On June 25 2016 16:02 QuickTwist wrote:
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On June 25 2016 06:20 Tumblewood wrote:
wow that was exhausting I deserve a break


Follows that up with a joke, which by Arts logic would mean that is Sus.

To me, it sounds like you're literally saying that my logic, which you didn't agree made you scum (obviously), makes TW suspicious. I found that very strange.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
June 25 2016 11:01 GMT
#407
I also never intended to imply it was your sole reason for scumreading TW. I just found it weird that it was in your case to begin with and I wanted to understand why.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
June 25 2016 11:12 GMT
#409
I'm just going to let someone else deal with you because apparently asking clarifying questions is now scummy and it's very tiring. I actually think you're town but I was trying to UNDERSTAND what was going on there.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
June 25 2016 16:35 GMT
#481
On June 26 2016 00:51 Tictock wrote:
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On June 26 2016 00:43 Damdred wrote:
Give good reasoning on them right now TT. since you want to lambast all of my reads and say they are all shit lets see it with a decent explanation.


Pfft like why are you even getting all fussy.

You and art just feel really boring and mechanical to me. Either giving out really shallow reads or blowing up over some silly stuff.

I really really want to scumread you now
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
June 25 2016 16:42 GMT
#483
On June 26 2016 01:36 Skynx wrote:
Wow Art kinda fucked up hard imo:

20 posts of trolling and fluff followed by this all of a sudden:

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On June 25 2016 08:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:51 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:47 QuickTwist wrote:
So... are we past the BS stage or not?

On June 25 2016 08:47 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:46 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:42 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 25 2016 06:52 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 06:48 GlowingBear wrote:
OHAI, I'm town

Makes me mayor


Do you want to bear that responsibility?


Awesome joke, 10/10

The puns are getting unbearable already.


5/7, keep growling

ftfy

This actually makes me think you're mafia.
"Hurr I'm annoyed that people are bullshitting"
*joins in on the bullshitting*
Not buying it.


Not buying that since nothing noteworthy has happened in the thread and I am joking means I'm Scum.. OK.

So you don't "buy" that I was just playing along.. Why?


On June 25 2016 07:25 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:21 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:19 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:12 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:10 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:02 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 06:58 Skynx wrote:
I'll happily be your first muslim president. I won't stop till all red are wiped out.


Who'd you lynch?


Kinda early for this isn't it? Or was this a joke?


No? Maybe he had an idea or direction.


I thought dicking around the first few pages is what people do here. Am I missing something?


Why'd you bring up the stuff about me? Seems like it was kind of serious. Were you just dicking around then? ;x


Oh, yeah. I don't like RVS too much. I am known for ending RVS early at my home site. I prefer to get things going more seriously early than dicking around, but I thought you were one of the people who like to take things light early so I'm not sure I get the pseudo kinda sorta scum hunting.

On June 25 2016 07:43 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:40 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:25 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:21 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:19 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:12 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:10 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:02 Superbia wrote:
[quote]

Who'd you lynch?


Kinda early for this isn't it? Or was this a joke?


No? Maybe he had an idea or direction.


I thought dicking around the first few pages is what people do here. Am I missing something?


Why'd you bring up the stuff about me? Seems like it was kind of serious. Were you just dicking around then? ;x


Oh, yeah. I don't like RVS too much. I am known for ending RVS early at my home site. I prefer to get things going more seriously early than dicking around, but I thought you were one of the people who like to take things light early so I'm not sure I get the pseudo kinda sorta scum hunting.


I think the idea is to fill up your filter as much as possible so no one wants to read it ecks dee


What do you mean? That is not my plan this game at all.

You do not strike me as a joking player. You weren't kidding about these comments, so clearly you want to get the game going. Your latest comment suggests an actual annoyance regarding people messing around, and then immediately after you make a pun to join in on the very thing you just bitched about, which strongly implies you were just attempting to blend in/look townie by pretending you want to move the game into the 'serious' phase without actually doing so.

I believe there's a good chance you're mafia.

So this is super weak, it actually reminds me of myself in newbie game going for an easy mislynch.

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On June 25 2016 09:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 25 2016 09:01 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:51 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:47 QuickTwist wrote:
So... are we past the BS stage or not?

On June 25 2016 08:47 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:46 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:42 GlowingBear wrote:
[quote]

Awesome joke, 10/10

The puns are getting unbearable already.


5/7, keep growling

ftfy

This actually makes me think you're mafia.
"Hurr I'm annoyed that people are bullshitting"
*joins in on the bullshitting*
Not buying it.


Not buying that since nothing noteworthy has happened in the thread and I am joking means I'm Scum.. OK.

So you don't "buy" that I was just playing along.. Why?


On June 25 2016 07:25 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:21 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:19 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:12 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:10 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:02 Superbia wrote:
[quote]

Who'd you lynch?


Kinda early for this isn't it? Or was this a joke?


No? Maybe he had an idea or direction.


I thought dicking around the first few pages is what people do here. Am I missing something?


Why'd you bring up the stuff about me? Seems like it was kind of serious. Were you just dicking around then? ;x


Oh, yeah. I don't like RVS too much. I am known for ending RVS early at my home site. I prefer to get things going more seriously early than dicking around, but I thought you were one of the people who like to take things light early so I'm not sure I get the pseudo kinda sorta scum hunting.

On June 25 2016 07:43 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:40 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:25 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:21 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:19 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:12 Superbia wrote:
[quote]

No? Maybe he had an idea or direction.


I thought dicking around the first few pages is what people do here. Am I missing something?


Why'd you bring up the stuff about me? Seems like it was kind of serious. Were you just dicking around then? ;x


Oh, yeah. I don't like RVS too much. I am known for ending RVS early at my home site. I prefer to get things going more seriously early than dicking around, but I thought you were one of the people who like to take things light early so I'm not sure I get the pseudo kinda sorta scum hunting.


I think the idea is to fill up your filter as much as possible so no one wants to read it ecks dee


What do you mean? That is not my plan this game at all.

You do not strike me as a joking player. You weren't kidding about these comments, so clearly you want to get the game going. Your latest comment suggests an actual annoyance regarding people messing around, and then immediately after you make a pun to join in on the very thing you just bitched about, which strongly implies you were just attempting to blend in/look townie by pretending you want to move the game into the 'serious' phase without actually doing so.

I believe there's a good chance you're mafia.

idk what narrative is but this is narrative
don't like this read at all, feels forced

It's a tone-based read.
On June 25 2016 09:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Well I just went through QT's filter on his previous game and apparently he's been lynched a lot. I didn't find anything like the tonally inconsistent thing that I pinged out though, and lynchbait rolls mafia too so eh.

Anyway, only a few hours into D1. We'll see what develops.


QT expressed that he doesn't like the random voting stage/silliness going on.
QT expresses it again.
Makes a joke instantly afterwards.
None of that is narrative. It's tonally inconsistent.


This post is quite bait, he's trying to make up for parts i bolded because they are not one bit indicative of QT being scum. Looks like a panic move. Moosy and Tumble points this out and Art switches to this:

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On June 25 2016 19:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Hello!

I no longer think QT is mafia. This is extremely upsetting. I kinda didn't want to let go of it because if I was right I'd feel like a dunce

I'm curious though, QT, why do you have a scum lean on me? You said yourself that the reason I was scumreading you made sense for most players, and now you're applying it to TW.

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On June 25 2016 20:12 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'm just going to let someone else deal with you because apparently asking clarifying questions is now scummy and it's very tiring. I actually think you're town but I was trying to UNDERSTAND what was going on there.

That's a lot of back and forth there. Your push was a quite serious one, you have to back it up with something or just admit you were trying to bait. Either way, the manner in which you abandon your scumread feels way to panicky to me.
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On June 25 2016 10:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 25 2016 09:54 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm pretty comfortable to call quick twist town right at the moment.

I think Artanis pushes on quick twist are kinda unnatural, but it's mostly a gut feel

M8 you're not going to get me mislynched no matter how hard you try. Just give up on the plans before you give yourself away.

This is also not ok, if you're gona attack someone please have some basis behind it. GB's posts were all good up to that point, why try to divide the town?

So what your case boils down to is I troll some, then I get serious on something that I thought I saw, then after an exchange and some cooling down I no longer believe it makes him scum, then I notice something that I find odd and get a little paranoid and ask for an explanation/understanding, then poking fun at GB whom I know quite well.

I actually think you're likely town for trying to case me though. It does look like you believe it.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
June 25 2016 16:48 GMT
#484
On June 26 2016 00:57 Jealous wrote:
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On June 26 2016 00:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I still want to see what Jealous thinks of QT and Artanis when he's done with this mooseshrooms

From what little I've seen (pages like 18-here) it seems eerily similar to the Town vs. Town fight I had with QT, but the roles are somewhat reversed - QT is pressuring Artanis in a similar fashion to what I did to him D1 in the last game. Artanis is playing the QT role and QT is judging him based on how well he plays the same scenario he was in. QT finds Artanis' defense to be insufficient and jumps on the dodgy exeunt that an exasperated Artanis made. I missed the beginnings of the fight but having read back multiple spoiler quotes it seems like a bad Town vs. Town right now. QT does seem a little overeager but it's hard to say from what I've seen that he is definitely scum. Might be Blue PR like I was last game doing the same thing to him, but would that be too transparent? Is that the facade he is pushing? I will look into it more when I can.

So what makes me bad town rather than mafia here?

Why does QT being overeager mean you think he's likely to be blue rather than green/red? Where's that coming from?

Also please give complete reads on both of us when you've read up through the entire game.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
June 25 2016 16:51 GMT
#486
On June 26 2016 01:48 Skynx wrote:
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On June 25 2016 09:25 Damdred wrote:
Like right now I have a small town circle of

Super, art, qt, tumble, Damdred

D1 pass moosey

So already we have a nice schmuck taken out.

Why is art town?
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On June 25 2016 09:26 Damdred wrote:
On June 25 2016 09:25 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 25 2016 09:22 Damdred wrote:
I think art v qt is t v t.

Its good though keep it up.


Actually, doesn't it look like they are trying to distance from each other?


Nope don't think so. But it's a good thought. Keep it up and you can be in the circle

So he suggests s v s and all you have to say is this? Why do you leave it at that? If you genuinely think art vs QT is tvt someone suggesting otherwise has to be pressured at least why do you give this up?

Pretty sure he's saying that given the fact GB paranoid-thought of Scum vs Scum immediately it's town indicative for him. He considers the paranoia townie.

I don't necessarily agree on GB. I don't really have a read on him as of yet.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
June 25 2016 17:02 GMT
#488
On June 26 2016 02:00 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2016 01:42 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 26 2016 01:36 Skynx wrote:
Wow Art kinda fucked up hard imo:

20 posts of trolling and fluff followed by this all of a sudden:

On June 25 2016 08:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:51 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:47 QuickTwist wrote:
So... are we past the BS stage or not?

On June 25 2016 08:47 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:46 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:42 GlowingBear wrote:
[quote]

Awesome joke, 10/10

The puns are getting unbearable already.


5/7, keep growling

ftfy

This actually makes me think you're mafia.
"Hurr I'm annoyed that people are bullshitting"
*joins in on the bullshitting*
Not buying it.


Not buying that since nothing noteworthy has happened in the thread and I am joking means I'm Scum.. OK.

So you don't "buy" that I was just playing along.. Why?


On June 25 2016 07:25 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:21 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:19 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:12 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:10 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:02 Superbia wrote:
[quote]

Who'd you lynch?


Kinda early for this isn't it? Or was this a joke?


No? Maybe he had an idea or direction.


I thought dicking around the first few pages is what people do here. Am I missing something?


Why'd you bring up the stuff about me? Seems like it was kind of serious. Were you just dicking around then? ;x


Oh, yeah. I don't like RVS too much. I am known for ending RVS early at my home site. I prefer to get things going more seriously early than dicking around, but I thought you were one of the people who like to take things light early so I'm not sure I get the pseudo kinda sorta scum hunting.

On June 25 2016 07:43 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:40 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:25 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:21 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:19 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:12 Superbia wrote:
[quote]

No? Maybe he had an idea or direction.


I thought dicking around the first few pages is what people do here. Am I missing something?


Why'd you bring up the stuff about me? Seems like it was kind of serious. Were you just dicking around then? ;x


Oh, yeah. I don't like RVS too much. I am known for ending RVS early at my home site. I prefer to get things going more seriously early than dicking around, but I thought you were one of the people who like to take things light early so I'm not sure I get the pseudo kinda sorta scum hunting.


I think the idea is to fill up your filter as much as possible so no one wants to read it ecks dee


What do you mean? That is not my plan this game at all.

You do not strike me as a joking player. You weren't kidding about these comments, so clearly you want to get the game going. Your latest comment suggests an actual annoyance regarding people messing around, and then immediately after you make a pun to join in on the very thing you just bitched about, which strongly implies you were just attempting to blend in/look townie by pretending you want to move the game into the 'serious' phase without actually doing so.

I believe there's a good chance you're mafia.

So this is super weak, it actually reminds me of myself in newbie game going for an easy mislynch.

On June 25 2016 09:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 25 2016 09:01 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:51 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:47 QuickTwist wrote:
So... are we past the BS stage or not?

On June 25 2016 08:47 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:46 GlowingBear wrote:
[quote]

5/7, keep growling

ftfy

This actually makes me think you're mafia.
"Hurr I'm annoyed that people are bullshitting"
*joins in on the bullshitting*
Not buying it.


Not buying that since nothing noteworthy has happened in the thread and I am joking means I'm Scum.. OK.

So you don't "buy" that I was just playing along.. Why?


On June 25 2016 07:25 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:21 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:19 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:12 Superbia wrote:
[quote]

No? Maybe he had an idea or direction.


I thought dicking around the first few pages is what people do here. Am I missing something?


Why'd you bring up the stuff about me? Seems like it was kind of serious. Were you just dicking around then? ;x


Oh, yeah. I don't like RVS too much. I am known for ending RVS early at my home site. I prefer to get things going more seriously early than dicking around, but I thought you were one of the people who like to take things light early so I'm not sure I get the pseudo kinda sorta scum hunting.

On June 25 2016 07:43 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:40 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:25 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:21 Superbia wrote:
[quote]

Why'd you bring up the stuff about me? Seems like it was kind of serious. Were you just dicking around then? ;x


Oh, yeah. I don't like RVS too much. I am known for ending RVS early at my home site. I prefer to get things going more seriously early than dicking around, but I thought you were one of the people who like to take things light early so I'm not sure I get the pseudo kinda sorta scum hunting.


I think the idea is to fill up your filter as much as possible so no one wants to read it ecks dee


What do you mean? That is not my plan this game at all.

You do not strike me as a joking player. You weren't kidding about these comments, so clearly you want to get the game going. Your latest comment suggests an actual annoyance regarding people messing around, and then immediately after you make a pun to join in on the very thing you just bitched about, which strongly implies you were just attempting to blend in/look townie by pretending you want to move the game into the 'serious' phase without actually doing so.

I believe there's a good chance you're mafia.

idk what narrative is but this is narrative
don't like this read at all, feels forced

It's a tone-based read.
On June 25 2016 09:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Well I just went through QT's filter on his previous game and apparently he's been lynched a lot. I didn't find anything like the tonally inconsistent thing that I pinged out though, and lynchbait rolls mafia too so eh.

Anyway, only a few hours into D1. We'll see what develops.


QT expressed that he doesn't like the random voting stage/silliness going on.
QT expresses it again.
Makes a joke instantly afterwards.
None of that is narrative. It's tonally inconsistent.


This post is quite bait, he's trying to make up for parts i bolded because they are not one bit indicative of QT being scum. Looks like a panic move. Moosy and Tumble points this out and Art switches to this:

On June 25 2016 19:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Hello!

I no longer think QT is mafia. This is extremely upsetting. I kinda didn't want to let go of it because if I was right I'd feel like a dunce

I'm curious though, QT, why do you have a scum lean on me? You said yourself that the reason I was scumreading you made sense for most players, and now you're applying it to TW.

On June 25 2016 20:12 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'm just going to let someone else deal with you because apparently asking clarifying questions is now scummy and it's very tiring. I actually think you're town but I was trying to UNDERSTAND what was going on there.

That's a lot of back and forth there. Your push was a quite serious one, you have to back it up with something or just admit you were trying to bait. Either way, the manner in which you abandon your scumread feels way to panicky to me.
On June 25 2016 10:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 25 2016 09:54 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm pretty comfortable to call quick twist town right at the moment.

I think Artanis pushes on quick twist are kinda unnatural, but it's mostly a gut feel

M8 you're not going to get me mislynched no matter how hard you try. Just give up on the plans before you give yourself away.

This is also not ok, if you're gona attack someone please have some basis behind it. GB's posts were all good up to that point, why try to divide the town?

So what your case boils down to is I troll some, then I get serious on something that I thought I saw, then after an exchange and some cooling down I no longer believe it makes him scum, then I notice something that I find odd and get a little paranoid and ask for an explanation/understanding, then poking fun at GB whom I know quite well.

I actually think you're likely town for trying to case me though. It does look like you believe it.

Its amusing how you try to make everything I pointed out sound like what they are not.
What happened actually then? What did you think you saw and why you think it doesn't make him scum anymore?

I thought I saw an inconsistency in tone/emotion which I felt pretty confident in.

Guy kept posting, was tonally consistent in said posts and responded in a way that made me feel like he's probably town.

Also, please actually expand upon the bolded sentence.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
June 25 2016 17:13 GMT
#490
On June 26 2016 02:04 Skynx wrote:
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On June 26 2016 01:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 26 2016 01:48 Skynx wrote:
On June 25 2016 09:25 Damdred wrote:
Like right now I have a small town circle of

Super, art, qt, tumble, Damdred

D1 pass moosey

So already we have a nice schmuck taken out.

Why is art town?
On June 25 2016 09:26 Damdred wrote:
On June 25 2016 09:25 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 25 2016 09:22 Damdred wrote:
I think art v qt is t v t.

Its good though keep it up.


Actually, doesn't it look like they are trying to distance from each other?


Nope don't think so. But it's a good thought. Keep it up and you can be in the circle

So he suggests s v s and all you have to say is this? Why do you leave it at that? If you genuinely think art vs QT is tvt someone suggesting otherwise has to be pressured at least why do you give this up?

Pretty sure he's saying that given the fact GB paranoid-thought of Scum vs Scum immediately it's town indicative for him. He considers the paranoia townie.

I don't necessarily agree on GB. I don't really have a read on him as of yet.

Well to start I dunno why you try to answer for Damdred. But since you tried;
GB's post doesn't sound paranoid 1 bit, he's posting an opinion thats completely opposite of Damdreds and he's ok with that. What do you feel about this and why did you not account for it since you tried to answer for him?

Bringing up the idea that it could be scum-scum in itself is paranoid. It's a 'new' idea at the time that came fairly quickly.

Was afk at that particular moment I think and when I came back Damdred had already brought it up. It didn't really say anything to me one way or the other and I was preoccupied.
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