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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 20 2016 18:50 GMT
#2201
Like he was so convinced Palmar / Rels was a thing he was against a no-lynch in fear the LYLO was VE / LS / Palmar and LS / VE tunneling each other.
He wrote all these things about Palmar being scum and VE being town during the last days
But now when it's time to lynch Palmar it's convienently 50/50
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 20 2016 18:50 GMT
#2202
And where the fuck is VE
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 20 2016 18:51 GMT
#2203
On June 21 2016 03:49 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2016 03:46 Rels wrote:
This doesn't make sense. VE / Palmar doesn't make sense because I am so scum ?

simple math
2 scum left. subtract 1 rels and you get 1 scum. ve and palmar would be 2 scums and 2 is more than 1, so ve and palmar can't both be scum.
I admit I shouldn't be so certain of it but there is notuniverse where I vote both ve and palmar over you.

Which is why you're scum. Town do not have this kind of certainty
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 20 2016 18:51 GMT
#2205
And if you're town you were bad and learned in the process so it's win/win
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 20 2016 18:52 GMT
#2207
On June 21 2016 03:51 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2016 03:45 Rels wrote:
On June 21 2016 03:44 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 21 2016 03:34 Rels wrote:
On June 21 2016 03:31 Tumblewood wrote:
sl you should vote rels instead of palmar
ve/palmar team 99% of the time doesn't exist and it eliminates the possibility of the me/you/rels lylo (though anyone/palmar/ve lylo is scarier)

Did you already explain this ?

like the part where you're scum? yeah. it's not like palmar and ve don't make sense together as a team, it's that scumminess is distributed 50.5% palmar 50.5% ve 99% you

Then why are you not OK killing Palmar ? You said all these things about Palmar being scum and VE being town.

pls my last five posts about ve have been "ve is maybe scum but hmmm I'm not sure" so of course I wouldn't want to coinflip on palmar/ve yet.

Your recent ones yeah.
All the posts during the last days were saying otherwise
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 20 2016 18:54 GMT
#2209
On June 21 2016 03:53 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2016 03:51 Rels wrote:
On June 21 2016 03:49 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 21 2016 03:46 Rels wrote:
This doesn't make sense. VE / Palmar doesn't make sense because I am so scum ?

simple math
2 scum left. subtract 1 rels and you get 1 scum. ve and palmar would be 2 scums and 2 is more than 1, so ve and palmar can't both be scum.
I admit I shouldn't be so certain of it but there is notuniverse where I vote both ve and palmar over you.

Which is why you're scum. Town do not have this kind of certainty

lol town tunnel all the time. remember jat game where I tunneled rsoul (I called her confscum several times) until she was NK'd? or xxi where tt tunneled super all game?

And what happened before the end of the game ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 20 2016 18:58 GMT
#2211
Tumble you have so many "XXX what do you think of YYY"' in your filter I don't know how I didn't catch this earlier. It looks like you said to yourself "OK I'm gonna be really questionning people this game" when the game started. And you usually do nothing with the answer.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 20 2016 18:59 GMT
#2214
On June 21 2016 03:58 Tumblewood wrote:
rels: calls everything his target does scum for bad reasons
me: those reasons are bad
rels: but see the scum motivation?
me: but why is it that motivation and not a townie motivation
rels: because scum wants to do this
me: no that's still bad
rels: no you're bad

they say the winner writes history

Still talking about the decision to vote me after voting no-lynch D4 ? Because this is still a scum indicator, it's actually the first time I got suspicions on you (=
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 20 2016 19:01 GMT
#2215
Like "OK to no lynch"
"Oh actually VE is so town I don't want a Palmar / LS / VE LYLO where Palmar wins the game"
Then when the no lynch passes
"OK I'm back to 50/50 VE / Palmar and never deciding for the rest of the game"
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 20 2016 19:02 GMT
#2217
Seriously. D4 you townread VE and scumread Palmar. Since that post:
On June 17 2016 09:26 Tumblewood wrote:
ve or palmar can one of you just play really townie (and one of you really scummy) for the next cycle so I can have less doubts
thank you

It's been 50/50 Palmar / VE never commiting to a read.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 20 2016 19:04 GMT
#2218
I still want to lynch Palmar for the record.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 20 2016 19:04 GMT
#2219
99% scum
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 20 2016 19:08 GMT
#2222
On June 17 2016 03:35 Tumblewood wrote:
rels, here is why I think you're scum:
a) you see information, and you make conclusions from it (in the form of X is scummy) that a townie could not reasonably conclude. it comes as either a huge leap to a conclusion or that you say "it benefits scum" and don't consider whether scum would have done something else or whether town would have done that too. examples: kwah case D1, case on me today.
b) you call me (and occasionally LS) scummy but then don't actually call me scum. it's like you want me lynched but you don't want to say so.

and here is why I think palmar is probably scum:
a) wrong on both his scumreads D1 and his vote on D2. apparently being wrong D1 is a scumtell for palmar.
b) who else is, eh?

and here is why ve is probably town:
a) he's been very genuine this game. it seems like he actually believes what he's saying when he gets pissed that someone's scumreading him or he tunnels on someone.
b) he's been so horseshit with some of his reads to the point that scum knows they'll get called out on it and town doesn't care.

shit, I'm confirmation biased to all hell on palmar/ve.

VE prolly town Palmar prolly scum
On June 17 2016 09:18 Tumblewood wrote:
every time I look through ve's filter I'm again surprised by how much the first two pages make ve look like obvious scum. too bad there are none...

On June 17 2016 09:21 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2016 04:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
WAIT HOLY SHIT

Show nested quote +
On June 11 2016 04:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay nevermind. I thought I remembered something huge from earlier, but it was nothing.

this is either town or good attention to detail

On June 17 2016 09:23 Tumblewood wrote:
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On June 12 2016 06:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
Jesus Fuckery we had 3 towns up for lynch on D1. Worst game ever.

again same thing
I think someone pointed this out earlier, that this post implies that ve only realized we had 3 towns up for lynch on D1 later, like reverse TMI

More VE prolly town.

After that:
+ Show Spoiler +

On June 17 2016 09:26 Tumblewood wrote:
ve or palmar can one of you just play really townie (and one of you really scummy) for the next cycle so I can have less doubts
thank you

On June 17 2016 23:33 Tumblewood wrote:
TBH my best reasons to think you're town, VE, are "too scummy to be scum"

On June 18 2016 00:05 Tumblewood wrote:
ve why is palmar mafia

On June 18 2016 00:12 Tumblewood wrote:
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On June 18 2016 00:09 LightningStrike wrote:
Palmar is mafia because he didn't vote scum at all Day 1 or Day 2 which is normally a huge indicator that he's town. Plus he wasn't NK'd Night 2 which he would normally be NK'd by if he's town especially with this player list.

yeah at that point usually palmar would die, unless scum thinks they can get the mislynch? couldn't have foreseen the drop in activity though.
ve I still want to hear you explain your read.

On June 18 2016 00:36 Tumblewood wrote:
just look at the most recent way ve defends himself
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On June 17 2016 22:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
There is literally no evidence I'm mafia. You are just describing thread sentiment. Everyone seems to THINK there is evidence against me, but no one thinks any of it is actually good. Just know I'm town and win with me. Vote Palmar.
so mafia
+ Show Spoiler +
what I'm saying is that ve should explain why palmar's most recent defense is "so mafia"
the "feels like my first game" thing is kinda narrative and kinda not

On June 18 2016 00:48 Tumblewood wrote:
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On June 18 2016 00:45 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 18 2016 00:39 sicklucker wrote:
im not against lynching palmar ls. but I dont think we should do it today. I wouldd prefer 48 hours where palmar knows hes getting lynched. not a sneak attack with 5 hours left so no swictch

If he scum he will spew WIFOM until his lynch. If he's town we lose anyways.

if he's town the idea is to not lynch him

On June 18 2016 02:53 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2016 00:54 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 18 2016 00:48 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 18 2016 00:45 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 18 2016 00:39 sicklucker wrote:
im not against lynching palmar ls. but I dont think we should do it today. I wouldd prefer 48 hours where palmar knows hes getting lynched. not a sneak attack with 5 hours left so no swictch

If he scum he will spew WIFOM until his lynch. If he's town we lose anyways.

if he's town the idea is to not lynch him

If we going to lynch him next day phase why not do it now?

if he's town the idea is to not lynch him next day phase either

On June 18 2016 03:32 Tumblewood wrote:
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On June 18 2016 03:07 sicklucker wrote:
yes infact if one more person votes palmar scum wins if hes town. so please dont do it yet

Actually mever mind. You and me and Palmar are already voting no-lynch and probably not changing so they can't shenannie us.

On June 19 2016 05:11 Tumblewood wrote:
Last will:
SL and LS are 100% town. Defer to SL over anyone else.
Lynch Rels tomorrow.
Lynch VE or Palmar the day after.

On June 19 2016 09:00 Tumblewood wrote:
Hope that Palmar vote is just pleasure because there can definitely be a team that doesn't include him. Feels pretty coinflippy.

On June 19 2016 13:53 Tumblewood wrote:
yeah screw this I'm trying to filter dive palmar but there's just not enough there to pass a judgment
##vote palmar

On June 20 2016 08:39 Tumblewood wrote:
Palmar, fill in the blanks (I assume your first scum is still Rels):
I think _____ is the second mafia because _____.

On June 21 2016 00:25 Tumblewood wrote:
palmar I'm here but only sporadically
I don't actually plan on voting you till tomorrow but I'm not taking my vote off yet (ooh pressure wow)

On June 21 2016 00:29 Tumblewood wrote:
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On June 21 2016 00:28 Palmar wrote:
On June 21 2016 00:25 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 21 2016 00:23 Rels wrote:
Posting a case that doesn't make me scum 10 times don't make me scum more

ya it does now you're scum ten times

this guy gets it

palmar talk to me
I don't know why I think that's just one of the things I'm supposed to do

On June 21 2016 01:01 Tumblewood wrote:
palmar is ve scum

On June 21 2016 01:11 Tumblewood wrote:
everyone else thinks it's weird how insecure and self-focused ve is, right? I'm not going crazy?
ve could you stop doing that it's making me think you're scum

On June 21 2016 01:27 Tumblewood wrote:
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On June 21 2016 01:16 sicklucker wrote:
tumble how are you leaning. does the rels/ve world scare you that much

tons
ve/palmar world scares me too but I keep remonding myself "it can't be real. it won't hurt me."

On June 21 2016 01:29 Tumblewood wrote:
if ve is scum he's going for the "be as obvious as possible and they'll be too scared to lynch me" plan. and it might be working, I feel really uncomfortable lynching him.

On June 21 2016 03:18 Tumblewood wrote:
man it's really easy to see how scummy rels is when you start with the assumption that he's scum
ve too
palmar almost

On June 21 2016 03:31 Tumblewood wrote:
sl you should vote rels instead of palmar
ve/palmar team 99% of the time doesn't exist and it eliminates the possibility of the me/you/rels lylo (though anyone/palmar/ve lylo is scarier)

On June 21 2016 03:49 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2016 03:46 Rels wrote:
This doesn't make sense. VE / Palmar doesn't make sense because I am so scum ?

simple math
2 scum left. subtract 1 rels and you get 1 scum. ve and palmar would be 2 scums and 2 is more than 1, so ve and palmar can't both be scum.
I admit I shouldn't be so certain of it but there is notuniverse where I vote both ve and palmar over you.


And I passed plenty of posts. Lots of questions, never a commit above 50/50 Palmar / VE.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 20 2016 19:09 GMT
#2223
On June 21 2016 04:05 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2016 04:02 Rels wrote:
Seriously. D4 you townread VE and scumread Palmar. Since that post:
On June 17 2016 09:26 Tumblewood wrote:
ve or palmar can one of you just play really townie (and one of you really scummy) for the next cycle so I can have less doubts
thank you

It's been 50/50 Palmar / VE never commiting to a read.

calling this scummy directly contradicts that one time you called me scummy for never evolving my reads
and spoiler neither of them work because I'm town

It does exactly that (=
VE is town when you want to vote for no lynch.
Then when this is done you're stuck in 50/50 Palmar / VE.
STUCK
NEVER EVOLVING
SEE THE PATTERN
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 20 2016 19:09 GMT
#2224
On June 21 2016 04:06 Tumblewood wrote:
rels I don't care if you're town or scum either way you're a buttface

OH NO WHAT WILL I DO
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 20 2016 19:10 GMT
#2225
On this graceful words I'm away watching GOT with my GF. I will watch what you all say behind my back with my phone though
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 20 2016 19:12 GMT
#2227
##Vote Tumblewood
Did I just see the townieness
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 20 2016 19:13 GMT
#2228
COME ON
THIS IS A DUEL
FIIIIIIIIGHT
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 20 2016 19:15 GMT
#2230
On June 21 2016 04:15 sicklucker wrote:
the good news is safemode is working. the bad news is we have degraded to calling each other buttfaces

I object to that "we"
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 20 2016 19:17 GMT
#2231
On June 09 2016 03:21 Tumblewood wrote:
rels is either scum or confirmation biased to all hell

12 DAYS LATER
STUCK
NEVER EVOLVING
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