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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
May 31 2016 08:35 GMT
#2012
On May 31 2016 17:33 Palmar wrote:
So rels, your mafia must then be super/ritoky?

You.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
May 31 2016 08:38 GMT
#2014
If we don't get screwed up by setup (IE if LS / kush / Damdred / Tumble are town), game is like almost won. We're 7v2.This means we can kill two townies to win and still win. Even if I'm mislynched, we just have to not lynch the two townies in SL / Vivax / Palmar to win.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
May 31 2016 08:39 GMT
#2015
On May 31 2016 17:36 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2016 17:35 Rels wrote:
On May 31 2016 17:33 Palmar wrote:
So rels, your mafia must then be super/ritoky?

You.

if you think that I'm just gonna vote you. The rest of the baddies can possibly be explained as you know.... baddies, but you don't get that excuse.

##vote Rels

Blame SL for being easy to read p:
TBF he could be tryharding right now, we'll see what he does after tomorrow. But I have only a few reasons to think you're town, and currently they don't hold up against SL's and Vivax' ones
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
May 31 2016 08:44 GMT
#2019
Only point 1 is worth scum points. Him doing almost nothing D1 / D2 was scum indicative I agree.

Point 2 is town indicative for him. He has an hard time playing when he doesn't need to as scum.

Point 3 is NAI.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
May 31 2016 08:50 GMT
#2027
On May 31 2016 17:47 Palmar wrote:
Regarding Rels.

It's mostly a "I don't wanna believe you're this bad" lynch.

I provided excellent reasons for killing HF on day 1, he resisted them.
I provided awful reasons for killing marv on day 2, he didn't even hesitate.

There's also some other stuff. He actually makes the best reason in the universe to townread me (I would never risk going after marv on day 2 like that. I would always, always, always shoot him or try to maintain amiable relations until such a time I can shoot him). Then he turns around, ignores his own perfect logic and says "it doesn't hold up" to some bullshit reasons as to why some other people are town.

This is literally the best argument in the game, made by himself, and he ignores it.

I am fairly certain Rels is mafia.

Sry bro, you were caught by POE and setup.
I have no problem getting lynched as long as you're lynched the next day.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
May 31 2016 08:58 GMT
#2030
On May 31 2016 17:56 sicklucker wrote:
acualy we have two mislynches you said rels? that means we can even lynch vivax if the games still going on and as long as im town we still win...

Crazy how easy this game seems. Do we really only need to find one town in five?

Yes. Basically unless you're scum and unless Superbia is town game is won.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
May 31 2016 09:06 GMT
#2036
I can't believe HF got lynched D1. He didn't seem scummy to me, apart from the self vote. Even reading his filter after his flip I don't find it scummy
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
May 31 2016 14:50 GMT
#2063
On May 31 2016 23:15 Palmar wrote:
I think the correct play today is to lynch Rels, not superbia. I feel like he has done nothing to push the game onward, his reads are inconsistent and he's been supremely useless/bad given how good he is capable of playing.

All of this is false, apart from the "reads are inconsistent" bit. But my reads are inconsistent because I'm town. My reads are extremely logical when I'm scum.
Tryhard all you want you're going down.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
May 31 2016 14:52 GMT
#2064
Concerning the possibility of stuff messing with checks, this is very true:
On May 30 2016 23:36 Superbia wrote:
Like there's 95% no miller. We already flipped a mafia role that fucks w/ parity cop. It's more likely there's one more role that fucks with tracker specifically. And there's no wanderer&tracker.

Parity cop has 2 checks for only 1 info. It would be weird if there is two things messing with his already "bad" ability
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
May 31 2016 14:59 GMT
#2068
I was gonna quote this 'cause it seemed weird to me that the hosts said it was really randomed
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
May 31 2016 15:17 GMT
#2080
On June 01 2016 00:11 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2016 23:50 Rels wrote:
On May 31 2016 23:15 Palmar wrote:
I think the correct play today is to lynch Rels, not superbia. I feel like he has done nothing to push the game onward, his reads are inconsistent and he's been supremely useless/bad given how good he is capable of playing.

All of this is false, apart from the "reads are inconsistent" bit. But my reads are inconsistent because I'm town. My reads are extremely logical when I'm scum.
Tryhard all you want you're going down.

...

This post just makes you more likely to be mafia. There is no way you would be this sure I am one after that HF lynch. Hell everything I've done logically should make sense to you.

Rels brain:

Palmar wanted to lynch mafia day 1, but I didn't...

Palmar lynched townie day 2 with reasons I liked and sheeped

conclusion: Palmar mafia because I agree with him when he's not more right than I am.




I have no idea man...

Don't try to convince me I'm scum bro.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
May 31 2016 16:12 GMT
#2088
Thinking about if palmar could think I'm scum as town I had a great thought
Palmar raped me in pyp
In the jat game I was scum and palmar was super underwhelming. Nevertheless I killed him n1 cause Im very scared of him as scum
Him being alive is a big tell I'm not scum to him. Him.bot being able to see that is another scum tell
Im gonna set on scum palmar and blame him being terrible if I'm wrong
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
May 31 2016 17:21 GMT
#2092
On June 01 2016 02:03 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2016 01:12 Rels wrote:
Thinking about if palmar could think I'm scum as town I had a great thought
Palmar raped me in pyp
In the jat game I was scum and palmar was super underwhelming. Nevertheless I killed him n1 cause Im very scared of him as scum
Him being alive is a big tell I'm not scum to him. Him.bot being able to see that is another scum tell
Im gonna set on scum palmar and blame him being terrible if I'm wrong


but 1 person alone does not decide the nk. it could have been someone else's decision, especially where you've been so afk.
I'm not saying it makes you scum, but I don't find this a compelling argument for you being town.

That's a bad argument when applied to me since I decided every kill in every scumteam I was part of.
On June 01 2016 02:07 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
@rels
Also pretend you are town palmar, there aren't that many people to suspect, and you have been very inactive this game.
From Palmar's perspective, two of you, superbia, sl, and vivax are scum. Thinking you are scum is completely reasonable.

I'm not that inactive considering the general state of the game.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
May 31 2016 17:23 GMT
#2093
On June 01 2016 00:15 Superbia wrote:
Rels -> vivax. If game not over its prob one of the checks

Weird ? I thought you thought it was very hard 1 of them could be miller / GF due to setup stuff ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
May 31 2016 17:24 GMT
#2094
On June 01 2016 00:14 Superbia wrote:
I think palmar is town bc he had no reason to not just let the wagon on me as mafia

This is always a bad reason to townread someone BTW
There no being an "game objectively" good reason to defend a town lynch for scum is a good reason to do exactly that
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
May 31 2016 17:40 GMT
#2096
Superbia doesn't look like afk town
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
May 31 2016 17:41 GMT
#2097
And I usually have a hard time reading LS but I think the thing I explained about how he handled pressure early is a good reason to townread him
Then Tumble is only town because of LS
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
May 31 2016 17:59 GMT
#2101
On June 01 2016 02:55 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2016 02:41 Rels wrote:
And I usually have a hard time reading LS but I think the thing I explained about how he handled pressure early is a good reason to townread him
Then Tumble is only town because of LS


something super early game like that doesn't hold weight for me in late game.

Being late in the game doesn't mean the early info isn't true anymore, it just means there are more infos.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
May 31 2016 18:19 GMT
#2108
On June 01 2016 03:07 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2016 02:23 Rels wrote:
On June 01 2016 00:15 Superbia wrote:
Rels -> vivax. If game not over its prob one of the checks

Weird ? I thought you thought it was very hard 1 of them could be miller / GF due to setup stuff ?


Palmar and SL are prob both town.

Then why would Tumble & LS not be both scum from your POV ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
May 31 2016 20:28 GMT
#2162
On June 01 2016 04:40 Damdred wrote:
Lol but if you flip Miller ls we get a free scum in tumble!

But no I think rels is more likely than vivax he's kinda low atm

Cause that is how I play scum right. There is simply nothing to do, I'm not switching from Superbia now even if he tries tryharding right now.
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