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On May 27 2016 01:22 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2016 01:16 justanothertownie wrote:On May 27 2016 01:08 Damdred wrote:
Sadly I don't think I can Lynch rels tommorow after such an insightful read. I have to change my meta now and do more non safe things. Why? Do you think he wouldn't be able to say this as mafia? Because I doubt that. What's the point in town reading one of your only ml this game. He's not getting like 8 people lynched so kinda in a shit situation if he has to rely on you guys lynching me and him fighting against it
Meh this is a bad argument since I would actually do exactly that for that reason
The good reason is my reads being non-faked
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Finally home. The day was hard because I had meetings all day and I had an hangover
Gonna relax then I'll catch up
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On May 27 2016 08:06 Palmar wrote:
only reason anyone would shoot koshi is marv.
If it's not marv, mafia would shoot me or marv.
this makes marv mafia every time.
This is a really good point
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On May 27 2016 15:23 marvellosity wrote:
##vote damdred
Or on palmar. Stupidity has killed my motivation so do what you will. I've done a 0% play as scum this game (for me), and the little time I have to play I just want to have fun and I can do better things with my time
Palmar you're not good enough to use nk like I can on you.
I don't understand the last sentence
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On May 28 2016 03:17 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2016 03:16 justanothertownie wrote:On May 28 2016 02:48 Damdred wrote:
Well most obvious idk it could explain why he was so relaxed about the pressure from HF if he was scum
Idk though his push on palmar and super felt like town ls though. The lack of emotion is a bit strange but don't want to Lynch him yet. He wasn't relaxed at all?! I think he was relaxed for ls under pressure.
I think LS under pressure as scum is more likely joke and dismiss the attack instead of explaining himself, confirm / deny ?
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On May 28 2016 04:08 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2016 04:00 Rels wrote:On May 27 2016 08:06 Palmar wrote:
only reason anyone would shoot koshi is marv.
If it's not marv, mafia would shoot me or marv.
this makes marv mafia every time. This is a really good point No, it's not. Why wouldn't marv shoot palmar? Why wouldn't someone else like kush shoot obvious town koshi?
It's weird that Palmar and marv weren't killed when they were the two people pushing HF and the most feared players in this game / forum. It heavily implies at least one of them is scum.
Do you understand the line I said I didn't understand in marv's post ?
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##Vote marvellosity
Very likely scum. He tryharded the last few hours of D1 then crumbled under pressure the rest of the game like expected from his scum play.
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On May 28 2016 04:15 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2016 04:11 Rels wrote:On May 28 2016 04:08 justanothertownie wrote:On May 28 2016 04:00 Rels wrote:On May 27 2016 08:06 Palmar wrote:
only reason anyone would shoot koshi is marv.
If it's not marv, mafia would shoot me or marv.
this makes marv mafia every time. This is a really good point No, it's not. Why wouldn't marv shoot palmar? Why wouldn't someone else like kush shoot obvious town koshi? It's weird that Palmar and marv weren't killed when they were the two people pushing HF and the most feared players in this game / forum. It heavily implies at least one of them is scum. No. That alone does not heavily imply anything like that. Koshi is a very good kill regardless and also a medic dodge if palmar and marv are both town.
Mm gonna admit it's true it could have been a medic dodge.
Palmar was the more likely protection in case he's town I think. So if marv is scum it makes sense he didn't kill Palmar. If Palmar is scum he would have killed marv I think, exactly like last game.
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On May 28 2016 04:03 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2016 15:23 marvellosity wrote:
##vote damdred
Or on palmar. Stupidity has killed my motivation so do what you will. I've done a 0% play as scum this game (for me), and the little time I have to play I just want to have fun and I can do better things with my time
Palmar you're not good enough to use nk like I can on you. I don't understand the last sentence
I need to understand what he means there.
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In other news I was in a the "ping pong bar" yesterday, it was a bar with table tennis equipment inside. My company had paid for a whole room with food and drinks, it was fucking awesome
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On May 28 2016 04:21 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2016 04:18 Rels wrote:On May 28 2016 04:03 Rels wrote:On May 27 2016 15:23 marvellosity wrote:
##vote damdred
Or on palmar. Stupidity has killed my motivation so do what you will. I've done a 0% play as scum this game (for me), and the little time I have to play I just want to have fun and I can do better things with my time
Palmar you're not good enough to use nk like I can on you. I don't understand the last sentence I need to understand what he means there. Why? Does not seem very important to me. He obviously thinks he can catch palmar based on nightkills. Like last game where he Palmar got stomped for our failed marv nightkill.
I have the feeling he's talking to Palmar like Palmar is town while calling him scum just above. But I don't really understand what he means still so it's hard to judge
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On May 28 2016 04:26 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2016 04:22 Rels wrote:On May 28 2016 04:21 justanothertownie wrote:On May 28 2016 04:18 Rels wrote:On May 28 2016 04:03 Rels wrote:On May 27 2016 15:23 marvellosity wrote:
##vote damdred
Or on palmar. Stupidity has killed my motivation so do what you will. I've done a 0% play as scum this game (for me), and the little time I have to play I just want to have fun and I can do better things with my time
Palmar you're not good enough to use nk like I can on you. I don't understand the last sentence I need to understand what he means there. Why? Does not seem very important to me. He obviously thinks he can catch palmar based on nightkills. Like last game where he Palmar got stomped for our failed marv nightkill. I have the feeling he's talking to Palmar like Palmar is town while calling him scum just above. But I don't really understand what he means still so it's hard to judge Like I said. Pretty sure he is referring to damdreds game and how he caught Palmar for nking him. Now Palmar acts if he caught marv for the koshi nightkill so that's why this sentence is there.
It's phrased so weirdly though
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On May 28 2016 14:20 sicklucker wrote:
is it just me or is this like the most boring game I have ever been in
Yeah. Lucky for me I have a super busy weekend :p
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On May 28 2016 17:50 marvellosity wrote:
Look at what vivax has posted. Jack shit. I was probably 2/2 on day 1 with ritoky and hf, and suspicion all over me because a mafia self voted. The thing that's even more annoying is that if hf flipped town even more people would be suspicious of me but I'd still be town.
Of course I didn't cause hf to be lynched, but he had what, 5 pages of filter in 24h before he gave up? Seems kinda efforty if you're plan is to just give up. Literally the only reason I signed up for this game was to play with an Hf who never had time to play, and the glorious plan we come up with on Skype or whatever is that when hf had one vote from palmar that everyone is totally ignoring, I will vote him, he'll give up and I won't get to play with him at all. It really is genius.
This is how much time I have for mafia now and if I might get lynched when only 2/13 scrubs who were on bloody hf day 1 before he self voted is getting lynched for it, I have no idea how to play in the future and not get lynched when I'm actually wrong about stuff.
I can't wait to flip and then you lot go 'oh yeah, the guy who pushed motherfucking hf on day 1 for no reason was actually town. Pretty fucking obvious in hindsight'
I've not read anything except clicking vivax's filter to see if my vote was still reasonable. Just been woken up and killing some time before I doze off with some bitching, because why not. Enjoy
You did the exact same thing in really small mafia II. Came back a few hours before deadline D1 and pushed DP, your only partner. And martyring only makes you scummier 'cause you're full of ego usually.
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I'm not voting Marv because of your nk argument but I don't think it's bad
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That fakeclaim was so dumb if kush is town
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I'm in the middle of the forest (and I actually played mafia around a fire camp :p) so its pretty cool Marv didn't show up to defend cause I feel like I'm the back up lynch if that happened
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I'm back home. marv flipping blue is kinda disgraceful -_- even more than that, his silence lead to this inactivity. Gonna put the time necessary to solve the game at some point today
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Mm from what I remember from Star Wars mafia scum!Palmar tries harder to be townie. In Star Wars he had like 4 pages of filter D1 trying to chat with the thread, quite unlike this game. Will read his filter first to make up my mind.
Totally unrelated, yesterday I was visiting my scout gruop I used to be part of, and during the evening my pals made their children gruop (20 youngies between 12 and 16 years old) play mafia. It was so bad p: 17v3 town vs mafia all vanilla, and no night too, just lynch after lynch. There was no discussion, just "OK we kill that guy! What's your defense ?" "ugh dunno bro I'm not mafia" "OK we kill him!" 15 lynches later town won but really there was no game. p:
I made my pals play resistance aruond a bonfire when the children were asleep, it was much cooler. ^^
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So, I read Palmar's filter and I think he's town. Unlike last game where he had 0 time to play, he definitely had time this game, as shown by the several "guys I'm around but I'm AFK" posts, but didn't use this time to try to be super townie. Instead he just did his thing, and his thing D1 was basically pushing HF, the 1-shot framer. All of this is town indicative.
There are two other town indicators.
First, Palmar last game showed how scared he is from marv. I think scum!Palmar wouldn't use a fabricated argument to push marv, when marv is kinda known for pushing the guys attacking him. And at the time he made that "marv is scum because of NK" post, it was start of D2, marv had a townie EOD1 so it wasn't clear he would just give up and get lynched.
Second, the "NK trap". It's something I've seen Palmar do in PYP, where he claimed SL was scum for a BS reason and caught me for sheeping it. Talking about these posts:
On May 27 2016 08:06 Palmar wrote:
only reason anyone would shoot koshi is marv.
If it's not marv, mafia would shoot me or marv.
this makes marv mafia every time.
On May 28 2016 18:20 Palmar wrote:
right. If it wasn't obvious I wasn't really serious about killing marv because of the night kill.
However, his response to it has been uncharacteristic. I honestly have no idea what that means. I could see a world where marv is frustrated by being put under pressure for no good reason at all and just goes fuck it. However it would be a complete first for him that I remember as town.
I don't even know if I can draw the line from "uncharacteristic -> scum". But given how he has responded today, which was mostly very hostile, I also can't make the opposite conclusion.
Like if we assume marv is just normal marv, he must be mafia here, because he would never be this hostile, unproductive as town. I am of course speculating here, but my experience leads me to believe he would have ridiculed or ignored me and spent his time doing at least something useful, however little time that is.
In conclusion, I'm debating myself whether I should stay on lynching marv. I have absolutely 0 faith in the argument I voted him for earlier in the day (the NK one). It feels like a dick move to lynch him like this, because I mostly baited him into becoming mad. On the other hand, if I lose to a marv that doesn't play like a town marv I would be pretty furious at myself. Also, I genuinely believe what I said on day 1 about marv being tired of his meta, so technically maybe it's ok to lynch him as town this one time to open up his doors for being less productive than what we're used to.
I _think_ it's mechanically the right play to kill marv today. He hasn't given us any information and mostly just built a fort from where he calls people bad. No matter how you look at it, marv doesn't sound like town marv. But the problem is I'm not entirely sure he sounds like scum marv either.
In other news, Rels sheeping my fake and bad reasoning in the way he did looks really bad.
The doubt in this post also seems townie but I'm pretty sure scum!Palmar could post that as well, especially there is an obvious scum motivation (give an excuse why he pushed town!marv before marv even flipped) so it's not worth any town points.
The only scummy thing I saw in his filter is him not pushing me harder for the trap. He pushed me super hard in PYP after he caught me with his trap.
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