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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
May 24 2016 17:14 GMT
#208
On May 25 2016 02:00 Damdred wrote:
Idk what I was expecting in the game but kinda meh about it.

Could Lynch Palmar, super, tumble today.

Fight me

Decent list. Would maybe/probably switch tumble with SL.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
May 24 2016 17:20 GMT
#213
On May 25 2016 02:16 Superbia wrote:
Kay I'm here.

HF/JAT. Explain how that point is relevant.

It's pretty self explanatory. If you are interested in a specific read from someone on a certain player then telling your opinion about that exact player in the same post completely defeats the purpose.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
May 24 2016 17:25 GMT
#215
On May 25 2016 02:23 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 02:20 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 25 2016 02:16 Superbia wrote:
Kay I'm here.

HF/JAT. Explain how that point is relevant.

It's pretty self explanatory. If you are interested in a specific read from someone on a certain player then telling your opinion about that exact player in the same post completely defeats the purpose.


I find it hard to believe that you are this short-sighted as town.

Why am I asking that question?

Why don't you tell us? Apparently I am way too short sighted to identify your certainly brilliant and towny intentions.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
May 24 2016 17:59 GMT
#223
On May 25 2016 02:41 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 02:25 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 25 2016 02:23 Superbia wrote:
On May 25 2016 02:20 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 25 2016 02:16 Superbia wrote:
Kay I'm here.

HF/JAT. Explain how that point is relevant.

It's pretty self explanatory. If you are interested in a specific read from someone on a certain player then telling your opinion about that exact player in the same post completely defeats the purpose.


I find it hard to believe that you are this short-sighted as town.

Why am I asking that question?

Why don't you tell us? Apparently I am way too short sighted to identify your certainly brilliant and towny intentions.


The grand problem with HF's 'push' is that it assumes I am asking for LS's read because I think LS is town and I want to know his opinion on kush because I don't have a good read on him. It could not be more ass backwards.

I thought LS was sort of kinda-ish on the scummy side, and him calling two people town (both questionable reads imo) and questioning a third (kush) in the same post indicates to me that he was not reading kush town (someone whom I believe is likely town at this point) seemed to traverse him more in that direction, so I asked him for a hard read on kush (the read he gave was sort of meh). That being said, I have a decent meta-read on LS (I think), so I'm not drawing any conclusion of this yet. Just means he's starting off in the poor side of town (shitty suburbs).

Now this what I do all the time as town, and I have never (iirc) asked for a genuine opinion on someone to become more informed. The question is always to get to know more about the person questioned, rather than the subject. This is like standard 101 townplay, which I why I am very confused as to why a good 'town' player would jump on this with this utterly absurd and simplistic point of view.

Hence why I am skeptical of HF, as this is his second garbage push. And he's (supposed to be) a good player.

And even more skeptical of you, because you have been buddying up to HF early on, even though I don't think anyone should have a town read on HF. And you're a very anal town player.

That's exactky the point. If you want to figure out the guy who makes the read(which I asdumed was your justification from the start) then you do not give him your own read. It influences what he will say.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
May 24 2016 18:01 GMT
#224
Also I never said that I townread HF.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
May 24 2016 18:16 GMT
#229
Yeah, supers big post explained exactly nothing and his abrasiveness is similar to how he played recently as mafja.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
May 24 2016 18:28 GMT
#232
On May 25 2016 03:23 Superbia wrote:
How are you reading HF, jat?

Null. I am not stupid enough to think I am able to read HF this early. But this doesn't make anything he says any less valid.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
May 24 2016 18:36 GMT
#234
On May 25 2016 03:16 Superbia wrote:
That's some 101 buddying.

So?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
May 24 2016 18:47 GMT
#239
On May 25 2016 03:46 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 03:36 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 25 2016 03:16 Superbia wrote:
That's some 101 buddying.

So?


Why?

I see smart post I agree.

This problem how?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
May 24 2016 18:57 GMT
#247
On May 25 2016 03:51 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 03:47 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 25 2016 03:46 Superbia wrote:
On May 25 2016 03:36 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 25 2016 03:16 Superbia wrote:
That's some 101 buddying.

So?


Why?

I see smart post I agree.

This problem how?


If you're town, and you find yourself agreeing to someone else's posts. Does not not make that person likely to have a town mindset as well, and thereby likely town?

Why are you not reading him town?

It feels like you're backing out because I'm calling you out.

I guess it is my turn now to say that I have a hard time believing you are this short sighted as town, right?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
May 24 2016 18:58 GMT
#249
On May 25 2016 03:55 LightningStrike wrote:
Damdred, JAT, and Superbia you guys should vote Palmar with me and Koshi. I pretty sure that he's scum at this point.

Don't worry bro. If he keeps not doing anything I will gladly join your wagon.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
May 24 2016 19:00 GMT
#252
On May 25 2016 03:58 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 03:57 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 25 2016 03:51 Superbia wrote:
On May 25 2016 03:47 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 25 2016 03:46 Superbia wrote:
On May 25 2016 03:36 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 25 2016 03:16 Superbia wrote:
That's some 101 buddying.

So?


Why?

I see smart post I agree.

This problem how?


If you're town, and you find yourself agreeing to someone else's posts. Does not not make that person likely to have a town mindset as well, and thereby likely town?

Why are you not reading him town?

It feels like you're backing out because I'm calling you out.

I guess it is my turn now to say that I have a hard time believing you are this short sighted as town, right?


Am I wrong? Having a similar mindset is one of the strongest town tells if applied well.

If I townread HF each game where I agreed with him on some things then I would never scumread him. Same goes for marv and several other players.
This line of reasoning is bullshit and you should know better.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
May 24 2016 19:10 GMT
#255
On May 25 2016 04:06 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 03:53 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 25 2016 03:49 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Plynch Candidiates:
2. ritoky
3. Rels
6. Palmar
7. marvellosity
8. sicklucker

Possible Tryhard Scums:
1. Holyflare
4. LightningStrike
5. Koshi

Rolf me as a tryhard scum? The only scumgame I really tryhard was Cell because Damdred was on my team but outside of that I didn't really tryhard as hard as scum ever. I sorry for framing you in my first scum game with ;D

Wrong person I forgot that was bats. Man I wish bats was still playing lol.
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 03:58 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 25 2016 03:55 LightningStrike wrote:
Damdred, JAT, and Superbia you guys should vote Palmar with me and Koshi. I pretty sure that he's scum at this point.

Don't worry bro. If he keeps not doing anything I will gladly join your wagon.

Why not now? If he's town all these votes will actually make him do stuff. If he's scum he will roll over and die.

Too lazy to vote. And I disagree - I don't think voting him right now will make him do anything regardless of his alignment.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
May 24 2016 19:15 GMT
#260
On May 25 2016 04:12 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 04:00 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 25 2016 03:58 Superbia wrote:
On May 25 2016 03:57 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 25 2016 03:51 Superbia wrote:
On May 25 2016 03:47 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 25 2016 03:46 Superbia wrote:
On May 25 2016 03:36 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 25 2016 03:16 Superbia wrote:
That's some 101 buddying.

So?


Why?

I see smart post I agree.

This problem how?


If you're town, and you find yourself agreeing to someone else's posts. Does not not make that person likely to have a town mindset as well, and thereby likely town?

Why are you not reading him town?

It feels like you're backing out because I'm calling you out.

I guess it is my turn now to say that I have a hard time believing you are this short sighted as town, right?


Am I wrong? Having a similar mindset is one of the strongest town tells if applied well.

If I townread HF each game where I agreed with him on some things then I would never scumread him. Same goes for marv and several other players.
This line of reasoning is bullshit and you should know better.


Ok, so I see where we disagree here, and I'm talking about a different kind of "agreement", on a more subconscious level. Where your line of thought lines up with the other. That being said:

I know you as a (town-)player that's non-positive (for lack of better word, someone who is not positive) and gives no credit or props or whatever. You don't pander to people as town. This is why I knew you were the last mafia in the last game you played (I skim-obsed it a bit, though I get no credit because I didn't tell anyone lolol). The fact that you call something a "good post" as town already raises my eye-brow. To add to that the fact that you're not even reading the poster town is really fucking weird, and rings my alarm bells.

Can others give some input on this?

I find it extremely hard to believe that anyone who ever saw me play town would genuinely think this.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
May 24 2016 19:18 GMT
#264
On May 25 2016 04:15 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 04:12 Superbia wrote:
On May 25 2016 04:00 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 25 2016 03:58 Superbia wrote:
On May 25 2016 03:57 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 25 2016 03:51 Superbia wrote:
On May 25 2016 03:47 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 25 2016 03:46 Superbia wrote:
On May 25 2016 03:36 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 25 2016 03:16 Superbia wrote:
That's some 101 buddying.

So?


Why?

I see smart post I agree.

This problem how?


If you're town, and you find yourself agreeing to someone else's posts. Does not not make that person likely to have a town mindset as well, and thereby likely town?

Why are you not reading him town?

It feels like you're backing out because I'm calling you out.

I guess it is my turn now to say that I have a hard time believing you are this short sighted as town, right?


Am I wrong? Having a similar mindset is one of the strongest town tells if applied well.

If I townread HF each game where I agreed with him on some things then I would never scumread him. Same goes for marv and several other players.
This line of reasoning is bullshit and you should know better.


Ok, so I see where we disagree here, and I'm talking about a different kind of "agreement", on a more subconscious level. Where your line of thought lines up with the other. That being said:

I know you as a (town-)player that's non-positive (for lack of better word, someone who is not positive) and gives no credit or props or whatever. You don't pander to people as town. This is why I knew you were the last mafia in the last game you played (I skim-obsed it a bit, though I get no credit because I didn't tell anyone lolol). The fact that you call something a "good post" as town already raises my eye-brow. To add to that the fact that you're not even reading the poster town is really fucking weird, and rings my alarm bells.

Can others give some input on this?

I find it extremely hard to believe that anyone who ever saw me play town would genuinely think this.

Like, I am actually known for agreeing with people as town. Palmar literally named me parrotman in metal mini mafia.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
May 24 2016 19:18 GMT
#265
On May 25 2016 04:17 Palmar wrote:
Ls 100% mafua

Feel free to explain at any point in time.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
May 24 2016 19:21 GMT
#267
On May 25 2016 04:19 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 04:18 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 25 2016 04:15 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 25 2016 04:12 Superbia wrote:
On May 25 2016 04:00 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 25 2016 03:58 Superbia wrote:
On May 25 2016 03:57 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 25 2016 03:51 Superbia wrote:
On May 25 2016 03:47 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 25 2016 03:46 Superbia wrote:
[quote]

Why?

I see smart post I agree.

This problem how?


If you're town, and you find yourself agreeing to someone else's posts. Does not not make that person likely to have a town mindset as well, and thereby likely town?

Why are you not reading him town?

It feels like you're backing out because I'm calling you out.

I guess it is my turn now to say that I have a hard time believing you are this short sighted as town, right?


Am I wrong? Having a similar mindset is one of the strongest town tells if applied well.

If I townread HF each game where I agreed with him on some things then I would never scumread him. Same goes for marv and several other players.
This line of reasoning is bullshit and you should know better.


Ok, so I see where we disagree here, and I'm talking about a different kind of "agreement", on a more subconscious level. Where your line of thought lines up with the other. That being said:

I know you as a (town-)player that's non-positive (for lack of better word, someone who is not positive) and gives no credit or props or whatever. You don't pander to people as town. This is why I knew you were the last mafia in the last game you played (I skim-obsed it a bit, though I get no credit because I didn't tell anyone lolol). The fact that you call something a "good post" as town already raises my eye-brow. To add to that the fact that you're not even reading the poster town is really fucking weird, and rings my alarm bells.

Can others give some input on this?

I find it extremely hard to believe that anyone who ever saw me play town would genuinely think this.

Like, I am actually known for agreeing with people as town. Palmar literally named me parrotman in metal mini mafia.


Lolll what? Not in the games I was in.

Then you either are a forgetful person/didn't pay enough attention or no good posts were made in the games you are talking about.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
May 24 2016 19:23 GMT
#270
On May 25 2016 04:21 Superbia wrote:
You are the last person I expect to agree with anyone as town. Idk. I don't think I've ever seen you agree with someone as town. Maybe a slight nod towards something.

Then you should just accept the fact that you have no idea about my townplay, hm?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
May 24 2016 19:27 GMT
#272
On May 25 2016 04:25 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 04:21 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 25 2016 04:19 Superbia wrote:
On May 25 2016 04:18 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 25 2016 04:15 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 25 2016 04:12 Superbia wrote:
On May 25 2016 04:00 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 25 2016 03:58 Superbia wrote:
On May 25 2016 03:57 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 25 2016 03:51 Superbia wrote:
[quote]

If you're town, and you find yourself agreeing to someone else's posts. Does not not make that person likely to have a town mindset as well, and thereby likely town?

Why are you not reading him town?

It feels like you're backing out because I'm calling you out.

I guess it is my turn now to say that I have a hard time believing you are this short sighted as town, right?


Am I wrong? Having a similar mindset is one of the strongest town tells if applied well.

If I townread HF each game where I agreed with him on some things then I would never scumread him. Same goes for marv and several other players.
This line of reasoning is bullshit and you should know better.


Ok, so I see where we disagree here, and I'm talking about a different kind of "agreement", on a more subconscious level. Where your line of thought lines up with the other. That being said:

I know you as a (town-)player that's non-positive (for lack of better word, someone who is not positive) and gives no credit or props or whatever. You don't pander to people as town. This is why I knew you were the last mafia in the last game you played (I skim-obsed it a bit, though I get no credit because I didn't tell anyone lolol). The fact that you call something a "good post" as town already raises my eye-brow. To add to that the fact that you're not even reading the poster town is really fucking weird, and rings my alarm bells.

Can others give some input on this?

I find it extremely hard to believe that anyone who ever saw me play town would genuinely think this.

Like, I am actually known for agreeing with people as town. Palmar literally named me parrotman in metal mini mafia.


Lolll what? Not in the games I was in.

Then you either are a forgetful person/didn't pay enough attention or no good posts were made in the games you are talking about.


I think I have a pretty decent grasp on how you play town though, imo. Maybe I'm not wording it correctly, or we see things (i.e. you) differently, but I'm pretty sure I know the difference between your town and mafia play.

That being said, I haven't reached a conclusion yet (ironic). Probably a mix between being tired and people I expected to show up not showing up. Which also probably both lead to having a small town circle.

Wording doesn't matter at all in this case. You have just proven that you are completely clueless if this is really how you think I play. Feel free to check if I am telling the truth.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
May 24 2016 19:30 GMT
#277
On May 25 2016 04:28 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 04:10 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 25 2016 04:06 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 25 2016 03:53 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 25 2016 03:49 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Plynch Candidiates:
2. ritoky
3. Rels
6. Palmar
7. marvellosity
8. sicklucker

Possible Tryhard Scums:
1. Holyflare
4. LightningStrike
5. Koshi

Rolf me as a tryhard scum? The only scumgame I really tryhard was Cell because Damdred was on my team but outside of that I didn't really tryhard as hard as scum ever. I sorry for framing you in my first scum game with ;D

Wrong person I forgot that was bats. Man I wish bats was still playing lol.
On May 25 2016 03:58 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 25 2016 03:55 LightningStrike wrote:
Damdred, JAT, and Superbia you guys should vote Palmar with me and Koshi. I pretty sure that he's scum at this point.

Don't worry bro. If he keeps not doing anything I will gladly join your wagon.

Why not now? If he's town all these votes will actually make him do stuff. If he's scum he will roll over and die.

Too lazy to vote. And I disagree - I don't think voting him right now will make him do anything regardless of his alignment.

Why you don't think voting him will make him do anything regardless of his alignment?

Because it is way too early and Palmar generally isn't a guy who let's people tell him what to do. If he had the time he would probably be posting something already regardless of his alignment.
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