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On June 03 2016 00:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:Host sheet with actions and full roles list: ![[image loading]](http://s33.postimg.org/yd23x62en/hfhost.jpg) Funnily enough ritoky had 2/3 town blues figured out like 12 hours into the game.  Koshi was an attempted bluesnipe afaik and regardless of what sicklucker says it worked out since it played a role in marv being lynched on D2. Before Vivax conceded Damdred sent in a jail on Vivax.
i didnt say koshi was a bad nk. I just thought it turned out super bad rng and all because they changed it from kush which would have given them a chance. When your getting stomped keeping koshi in the game is probably a good idea anyway since he changes his mind the most
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On June 03 2016 01:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2016 00:41 justanothertownie wrote:On June 03 2016 00:15 Rels wrote:On June 03 2016 00:12 justanothertownie wrote:
The game wasn't imbalanced at all. Mafia just got stomped by analysis.
Imagine a day1 mislynch. The chance of the parity cop getting an incorrect check is actually quite high with a framer and a gf. Suddenly there are almost no confirmed town left. There weren't even any confirmed towns in this game until super flipped. That's also why SLs nightkill rant was so idiotic. No, damdred is not confirmed town and leaving him alive at least for a while is a valid strategy if you can rb him. They couldn't know what kind of terrible cop check was in store for them. I disagree because: - Superbia was heavily likely to be the next lynch, leaving only the roleblocker alive, and - if Damdred roleblocked correctly the roleblocker, the NK would be stopped Sure, that's a valid point but sometimes you need to take risks and Vivax clearly was their endgame solution. And for a while everyone except for me miraculously thought he was town. On June 03 2016 00:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
JAT i disagree though with the Damdred thing. Damdred was quite likely to be town (noone is ever confirmed) because mafia didn't try to do anything about his claim. They could have, especially Superbia since he was likely to get lynched anyways.
I think mafia, with better play could have gotten one of Damdred/kush lynched, especially since Damdred jailed kush N2 (and got rb'd by mafia). Yeah, obviously. But I don't know what you are arguing then - mafia playing suboptimally doesn't invalidate the general strategy and that is basically what you are saying too. Mafias problem in this game was just that they were super scummy except for HF and that guy got lynched day1. They didn't even really get cred for their doublebus (exceptions: Koshi, kush) because the rest of supers play was so mafia. I was saying the way mafia dealed with the claims made damdred almost 100% town. Maybe i misunderstood you initially since it seema like we are arguing the same thing.
super would have still been lynched if he claimed anything at any point in the game. vivax going for a 1 for 1 trade is not something that would win them the game
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Like if your the next lynch claiming wont really much at least against me. it would have to be pre-emptive risky and good. hail marry like
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Well after your nightkill we had auto so. no it didnt matter what they did
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shut up ryan I was just trolling him
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im sure you just looked like a huge asshole. Its ok to troll an asshole tho. its jat...
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the posts where I was lying out of my ass to troll him? I was not even trying to talk logic. but then you randomly defended him by calling my play shit by saying random things im not even sure are true
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I dont even know what your arguing. I was just typing random shit because I knew it got under jats skin and he likes to argue about everything so no harm done. im not even thinking about the game.
But if this was real it did not involve you bad mannered fucker
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I like to make people angry tho. not proud just honest =]
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oh your still talking about that nk? you even agreed with me that they needed to kill dandred...
it was fucking bad
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and no i never said koshi was a bad night kill. I said they had bad rng in that line you quoted...
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On June 03 2016 09:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2016 09:25 sicklucker wrote:
and no i never said koshi was a bad night kill. I said they had bad rng in that line you quoted... "mafia even had the worst rng night kills. kill kush? na lets change it to koshi whos the only one left in the game that wants to kill towns?" If you cant understand the uinderlined parts i suggest you stop playing mafia right now.
this means it was unlucky they changed there nk at the last second and didnt hit a power roll. rng..
you know what rng is right? its luck as in im not calling the nk bad
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On June 03 2016 16:15 justanothertownie wrote:
Rayn, I appreciate the effort but it's really not worth to try and argue with SL. Everyone knows logic isn't exactly his biggest strength and he would rather claim that everything he ever said was to troll rather than to admit he was wrong anywhere.
Trying to argue logic with that guy is like fighting windmills.
ROFLMAO
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On June 03 2016 16:02 Superbia wrote:
JAT needed to die bc his death increased my odds of survival the most btw.
but you had no chance of winning. If you said this for vivax maybe I could understand but you choose the nk and got vivax into an unwinnable spot. Me and Ls and others wanted to kill you as bad if not more then jat we just were not as loud about it I afk voted you the next day... I gave a 95% scum read certainty day 1. You put vivax in a spot vs 6 confirmed towns where he had to concede.
YOu were always getting nked the next day no matter who you nked all you did was put your partner who was your only hope in an unwinnable spot by not killing a guy who would probably be considered a confirmed town who could confirm someone else (tumble) did not deliver kp
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And lets be real jat learned how to read you last game where I caught you. DOnt know why jat gets all the credit here when I had you in every scum team I posted all game and caught you in both. Jat learned how to catch you for the reasons you were caught last game as well as everyone else.
Only on tl.mafia would I call super confirmed mafia in the first 8 hours of two games and have the entire thread arguing I had no reason for his lynch twice/bus etc all game
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