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On May 29 2016 20:40 Rels wrote:
I'm back home. marv flipping blue is kinda disgraceful -_- even more than that, his silence lead to this inactivity. Gonna put the time necessary to solve the game at some point today
His silence is also the only reason he got lynched. If he had fought even a little I never would have lynched him.
The problem is that I don't really know what this means for palmars alignment. He knows marv better than me and even I had strong doubts about this. So did he also get fooled by the rolling over (which technically shouldn't happen) or did he just use this opportunity to mislynch someone who should always be a nightkill instead?! I don't know.
I will give him the benefit of the doubt for now but please do take this into account if he is alive in LYLO. Do not let him cruise through this game once again.
In other news I will be murdering superbia with fire tomorrow. Would also not be sad to see Vivax and Rels go.
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On May 30 2016 00:38 Rels wrote:
Here is where I'm at, from my preferred lynch to my least preferred lynch:
Superbia
kush
SL
JAT
Vivax
Palmar
LS
Damdred
Saw this list, was about to go apeshit.
But having read your other posts I don't mind it that much. Did you read my filter too? You were townreading me earlier and now I am at the lowest end of your townlist? Below fucking vivax? Seriously?
I obviously don't agree with Vivax in any townlist but your reasoning sounds okay'ish for you to believe.
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On May 30 2016 01:50 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
better question: is it impossible?
Of course it isn't impossible. But why bother thinking about it at this point? Scum still needs 3 mislynches.
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On May 30 2016 04:33 Vivax wrote:
No matter what happens tomorrow we lynch super, then kush, Rels and if we still didn't win we kill Palmar. That's pretty much the guys I don't have a townread on. To elaborate:
Rels will prolly stop being busy at some point, his stories are nice and all but they're also the sort of I feel guilty stuff you write about when inactive as mafia. His filter isn't small but he keeps switching between contentless conversation, some of his daily life's experience and actual playing. Plus seems to me like he's trying to be mr nice guy all the time which is how I remember his mafia game.
With kush it's mostly that I don't think he's town for him to have the read he had on marv and still thinks Damdred is mafia. The claim was pretty believable given that he could easily be CCd (although he would have some wiggle room claiming 1-shot unless the other tracker was 2-shot). Tinfoiling after several nights of him being alive would justify the suspicion but like this it just looks like Kush is lazily clinging to pretty much the only scumread he had on D2 iirc.
Palmar is kind of a last resort lynch cause SL just doesnt seem to be mafia, and while I don't really have a solid read on LS so far I trust into HF not jumping on him that early when he's known lynch bait.
JAT has been mafia siding pretty hard during early D1 but he has the biggest filter and usually gets sorted out by NKs when hes town.
TW I still want to townread for the way he indirectly opposed HF on D1, but I should probably filter him.
Where exactly have I been mafia siding? I lynched mafia and said the only one I would switch to is superbia who is likely mafia as well. So gtfo with this bullshit.
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On May 30 2016 05:42 Damdred wrote:
Also because I'm dumb and tried to Yolo block mafia I hit tumble n1 Rio my bad decisions and koshi
:/
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On May 27 2016 04:57 Damdred wrote:
I can feel the bullet curving away from ritoky slot to my slot now. This will be an annoying night if I get shot though right when my free time is bout to start.
Anyway I would suggest a bullet if we have a vig somewhere in the tumble/superbia/Kush/sl preferably just the first two.
Damdred. Walk me through this.
You request a vigshot on tumble and then you jail him? How on earth does that make the slightest bit of sense?!
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On May 30 2016 06:23 Damdred wrote:
A framer +godfather is a low probability in the setup and is kinda bastardized in a way. If your team is super, tumble and hf. Hf just got lynched super is the most likely lynch tommorow tumble carries kp he's not suspected much by anyone but me I think Anyway.
And as for that jat well it was dumb, but I changed it from a protect koshi to jail tumble 10 minutes before deadline.
Anyway it is what it is, completely dumb use of my one save but oh well.
Didn't you townread superbia at the time?
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On May 30 2016 06:39 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2016 05:56 justanothertownie wrote:On May 27 2016 04:57 Damdred wrote:
I can feel the bullet curving away from ritoky slot to my slot now. This will be an annoying night if I get shot though right when my free time is bout to start.
Anyway I would suggest a bullet if we have a vig somewhere in the tumble/superbia/Kush/sl preferably just the first two. Damdred. Walk me through this. You request a vigshot on tumble and then you jail him? How on earth does that make the slightest bit of sense?! who reqeusted this vig shot? because im pretty sure d1 i was telling the thread he was my top town read...
Reading good skill.
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On June 02 2016 07:05 sicklucker wrote:
scum is what I call the obs qt who always act like a bunch of know it alls when their spoiled fact!
Yeah, or maybe they had the game solved while they were alive already...
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On June 02 2016 07:10 sicklucker wrote:
mafia even had the worst rng night kills. kill kush? na lets change it to koshi whos the only one left in the game that wants to kill towns?
Kill the confirmed town with mass potential confirmed towns lurker. Na lets kill jat who no one really townreads and probably one of 2 or 3 people we can lynch based on role rng and play
lol
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SL, you are so delusional it's not even funny ^^
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On June 02 2016 07:47 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2016 07:45 sicklucker wrote:On June 01 2016 19:13 Rels wrote:On May 25 2016 08:03 sicklucker wrote:
but lets assume super is mafia. Super reqeust ritoky my other scum read to do a "robot read" on him. Ritoky comes to the conclusion.
Ritoky also pushes on tumbleweed who is hfs other scum read. Hf often decides day one lynches and his two scum reads now are tumble and super. So we have ritoky trying to push hf's direcetion off of superbia. (superbia also asked his to do a read how convient)
Im going down the vivax hole here but I wanna br right I think im right.
Lets not forget I scum read them both individually but there is alot of thing pointing they might be a team. I know its early but Im more confident then I have ever been in a day 1 association read. Just like in my last game how I was more confident then I ever was on a day 1 read that superbia was mafia ( I was right)
I think this is a team boys wow SL called a ritoky / HF / superbia team D1 Pretty good if Palmar is scum, super impressive if ritoky is ^^ ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/H943rv4.gif) got some kanye ego right now need some sleep  The best quote from D1 is actually: Show nested quote +On June 01 2016 18:54 Rels wrote:On May 25 2016 06:13 Holyflare wrote:
Ritoky posted the exact same thing Superbia, guess all three of us must be mafia together. Game over guys. lol please be true
Yeah, if only he wasn't talking about me/ritoky/himself there.
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The game wasn't imbalanced at all. Mafia just got stomped by analysis.
Imagine a day1 mislynch. The chance of the parity cop getting an incorrect check is actually quite high with a framer and a gf. Suddenly there are almost no confirmed town left. There weren't even any confirmed towns in this game until super flipped. That's also why SLs nightkill rant was so idiotic. No, damdred is not confirmed town and leaving him alive at least for a while is a valid strategy if you can rb him. They couldn't know what kind of terrible cop check was in store for them.
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On June 03 2016 00:15 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2016 00:12 justanothertownie wrote:
The game wasn't imbalanced at all. Mafia just got stomped by analysis.
Imagine a day1 mislynch. The chance of the parity cop getting an incorrect check is actually quite high with a framer and a gf. Suddenly there are almost no confirmed town left. There weren't even any confirmed towns in this game until super flipped. That's also why SLs nightkill rant was so idiotic. No, damdred is not confirmed town and leaving him alive at least for a while is a valid strategy if you can rb him. They couldn't know what kind of terrible cop check was in store for them. I disagree because: - Superbia was heavily likely to be the next lynch, leaving only the roleblocker alive, and - if Damdred roleblocked correctly the roleblocker, the NK would be stopped
Sure, that's a valid point but sometimes you need to take risks and Vivax clearly was their endgame solution. And for a while everyone except for me miraculously thought he was town.
On June 03 2016 00:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
JAT i disagree though with the Damdred thing. Damdred was quite likely to be town (noone is ever confirmed) because mafia didn't try to do anything about his claim. They could have, especially Superbia since he was likely to get lynched anyways.
I think mafia, with better play could have gotten one of Damdred/kush lynched, especially since Damdred jailed kush N2 (and got rb'd by mafia).
Yeah, obviously. But I don't know what you are arguing then - mafia playing suboptimally doesn't invalidate the general strategy and that is basically what you are saying too.
Mafias problem in this game was just that they were super scummy except for HF and that guy got lynched day1. They didn't even really get cred for their doublebus (exceptions: Koshi, kush) because the rest of supers play was so mafia.
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On June 03 2016 00:58 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
rayn, again, i'm not saying it was imbalanced. This isn't a conversation about balance. It's just the more prs you have, the more the game is about figuring out mechanics rather than behavioral analysis.
I have no idea why you are even arguing this since prs basically had no part in mafia losing this game anyways?
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On June 03 2016 02:29 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
im arguing that behavioral analysis is more fun than mechanics analysis.
therefore it's better to have less prs.
Sure, I just don't get what it has to do with this game.
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On June 03 2016 05:01 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2016 01:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 03 2016 00:41 justanothertownie wrote:On June 03 2016 00:15 Rels wrote:On June 03 2016 00:12 justanothertownie wrote:
The game wasn't imbalanced at all. Mafia just got stomped by analysis.
Imagine a day1 mislynch. The chance of the parity cop getting an incorrect check is actually quite high with a framer and a gf. Suddenly there are almost no confirmed town left. There weren't even any confirmed towns in this game until super flipped. That's also why SLs nightkill rant was so idiotic. No, damdred is not confirmed town and leaving him alive at least for a while is a valid strategy if you can rb him. They couldn't know what kind of terrible cop check was in store for them. I disagree because: - Superbia was heavily likely to be the next lynch, leaving only the roleblocker alive, and - if Damdred roleblocked correctly the roleblocker, the NK would be stopped Sure, that's a valid point but sometimes you need to take risks and Vivax clearly was their endgame solution. And for a while everyone except for me miraculously thought he was town. On June 03 2016 00:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
JAT i disagree though with the Damdred thing. Damdred was quite likely to be town (noone is ever confirmed) because mafia didn't try to do anything about his claim. They could have, especially Superbia since he was likely to get lynched anyways.
I think mafia, with better play could have gotten one of Damdred/kush lynched, especially since Damdred jailed kush N2 (and got rb'd by mafia). Yeah, obviously. But I don't know what you are arguing then - mafia playing suboptimally doesn't invalidate the general strategy and that is basically what you are saying too. Mafias problem in this game was just that they were super scummy except for HF and that guy got lynched day1. They didn't even really get cred for their doublebus (exceptions: Koshi, kush) because the rest of supers play was so mafia. I was saying the way mafia dealed with the claims made damdred almost 100% town. Maybe i misunderstood you initially since it seema like we are arguing the same thing.  super would have still been lynched if he claimed anything at any point in the game. vivax going for a 1 for 1 trade is not something that would win them the game
If you want to argue like this then it doesn't matter at all what mafia did because they would have been lynched regardless. A kush or damdred nightkill would not have changed anything about that.
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On June 03 2016 05:06 sicklucker wrote:
Well after your nightkill we had auto so. no it didnt matter what they did
The nightkill did not change anything about that though.
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On June 03 2016 16:02 Superbia wrote:
JAT needed to die bc his death increased my odds of survival the most btw.
No shit :p
Vivax' too.
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