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Pls roll me mafia again for the 20th time in a row. Pls. (Don't) | ||
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That's not silly, that's normal. | ||
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On June 02 2016 20:38 Rels wrote: Sure we'll start with the basic stuff: how to not get lynch. Given your games these past 6 months that's a priority Rofl. :D nice1 boyo. The next night KP I possess will go on your ass. | ||
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On June 02 2016 20:52 Rels wrote: Show some respect for the man that carried you! p: That was all on my super sick #1 2016 fakeclaim. | ||
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Pick your poison. | ||
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Never lynch me. | ||
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On June 04 2016 08:05 sqrtofneg1 wrote: I'm doing fine. I am not claiming mafia. Weak! | ||
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On June 04 2016 08:05 QuickTwist wrote: Hi, I have a PR and I think I should be the first NK. Wow I'm a PR too! | ||
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On June 04 2016 08:07 QuickTwist wrote: I;m getting a town read on Sup... for really no reason. Wow I'm already pocketed. Nice. Good job calling me town. I like that. I may be inclined to call you town too at some later stage. | ||
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On June 04 2016 08:03 Superbia wrote: First person to hard claim mafia gets a free d1 townread&pass. This opportunity is still open. | ||
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Uhh it's my offer to someone else. Game is about interacting. Taking my own opportunity would be lame. | ||
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What could it mean? | ||
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On June 04 2016 08:14 QuickTwist wrote: Town read on Jealous. Interesting. | ||
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On June 04 2016 08:17 Jealous wrote: It could mean that your playful tete-a-tete in the early stages of Day 1 could be a means to generate posts, thus aiming to remove any suspicion placed upon you for inactivity when one clicks your posting summary, and could be a means to suggest that you are both green or blue. Both of these aims could signify the opposite. So essentially.. nothing and everything? :D | ||
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On June 04 2016 08:20 Jealous wrote: Not at all. It is the most suspect thing I've seen in this thread so far. Usually it's NAI (wow these pro acronyms, amirite). Depends on the person. I spam as either alignment. | ||
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On June 04 2016 08:23 Jealous wrote: That's a convenient strategy, but why would a newcomer to TL Mafia whom I imagine you have no prior experience with respond in the same manner besides collusion? Hmm? What do you mean? Do you find it suspicious that Quicky responded similarly? | ||
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On June 04 2016 08:25 Jealous wrote: My expectations were mixed in that I simultaneously did not want to be important because I would then be under a lot of pressure to perform my duties up to a certain standard, but I also did want to have some sway in the outcome of the game beyond just words and analysis. I am satisfied with my role. How about you? I hoped to get town and I got town. ;p | ||
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On June 04 2016 08:33 Jealous wrote: I assume that's directed at me. Does my verbosity intimidate you? It shouldn't, because I only aim to benefit the town, and my analysis of words and their use (as part of my job) should of benefit here. It's just annoyingly tryhard. | ||
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Am I interpreting jealous/collusion wrong? | ||
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On June 04 2016 08:35 emperorchampion wrote: I step out of the bath house, elated after a fine evening of lounging in warm water in the presence of naked men. However, I feel something in the air, something like the fresh scent of a revolution. Maybe that could be the garbage lying on the street though. But no, this is the day to take down the mighty Cesar, and get rid of his brutish rule! Lolll. Nice. All these posts and this guy is the towniest. | ||
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Wat. + Show Spoiler + No, I want an answer from jealous first | ||
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On June 04 2016 08:37 QuickTwist wrote: Sup, I don't know if you are just really good at this game or a pretty dumb scum tbh. This confuses me. Why? | ||
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I want to know your thought process. What makes you reach this crossroad? | ||
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I promise. | ||
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Really? So why would this make me bad scum or a really good town player? | ||
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On June 04 2016 08:44 Skynx wrote: So, Incognito guide tells me town likes clarity and mafia likes contentless posts. Jealous sounds towny to me. QT also keep things clean. Super n moosy are kinda chatting shit so I assume we can read more as game progresses. Super is most scummy so far. Do you think quicky (QT) is town? | ||
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What do you think of the fact that he has given like 4 people a townread? | ||
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On June 04 2016 08:48 Tumblewood wrote: 50/50 like for reading and applying Incognito's guide / dislike for maybe (?) hiding behind Incognito's guide instead of speaking for yourself also Incognito's guide is pretty old and now there are a lot of players that spam as both alignments I'm okay with this train of thought. | ||
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On June 04 2016 08:47 QuickTwist wrote: I didn't say it would make you a really good town player. Zing! In any case I have enough for a serious vote now and its you. ##Vote: Superbia Does this have more substance than your townreads? | ||
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On June 04 2016 08:49 Tumblewood wrote: why would giving lots of people townreads make someone scummy? I'd expect that the question would be more "giving 4 reads in the first hour" I don't see a good reason for pretty much all of them. Jealous could be an exception but it was still way too early to conclude anything. | ||
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On June 04 2016 09:00 Tumblewood wrote: have you ever seen the mafiauniverse (that's the website hosting the mafia championship) turbo games? the games have 18 minute day phases and 6 minute night phases and everyone who makes reads makes them off of ten posts or less for the first couple of days and have a mostly guesswork basis. perhaps he comes from a site where reads are made similarly? Tumble you're not playing your town meta. You might want to change that before anyone else notices. | ||
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On June 04 2016 09:03 Jealous wrote: Shade is cast in your direction and you exeunt stage left. Interesting. On the one hand, it might be a better strategy than vehemently arguing your innocence. On the other hand, that might be exactly why you did it even if you are not innocent. I said before I was going to play dnd later. x; | ||
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On June 04 2016 09:05 Tumblewood wrote: I do what I want + Show Spoiler + is this a soft scumread or what Nah. Maybe. | ||
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On June 04 2016 09:10 QuickTwist wrote: I thought you were going to go play D&D. What happened to that? Did you get high or something? Currently making character for new player. So waiting to start. | ||
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On June 04 2016 09:10 Superbia wrote: Emperorchampion, stop lurking! Post a little more. | ||
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On June 04 2016 09:01 Skynx wrote: @Super I missed the part where QT townread 4 ppl as I was the 5th to post after daypost. ? But you commented on all my posts which were mostly after daypost, no? | ||
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On June 04 2016 09:11 Superbia wrote: ? But you commented on all my posts which were mostly after daypost, no? Do follow up on this. You said some things about me and some things about jealous/quicky. Both of these latter indicate that you have read quicky's posts. How did you come to the conclusion that quicky's posts are clean but not catch that he townread like 4 people? | ||
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 I wanted to interact. Oh well, session started again. | ||
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On June 05 2016 22:57 Skynx wrote: Tumble, emperor, you are townies For thoughts on QT read #604 Not much of read on most others but I don't feel like lynching kush+bddt for some time These are all just feels + I'm suspicious of one specific person but I'll keep that to myself for now. Why do you feel the way you do about kush + bddt? Can you try explaining? | ||
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On June 06 2016 00:12 Tumblewood wrote: Reads that need to be explained: QT scumreading Skynx and Tictock Superbia townreading FF I'm not feeling particularly inclined to explain any of my reads, especially since I'm already globally townread. Though it mostly has to do with me having a good read on FF and I feel like there's a decent chance he's town. Decent enough to give him a pass today. We should lynch outside of my townlist. If anyone feels otherwise, you better have a good reason. | ||
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Jealous, who are your strongest towns? | ||
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Tbh, I have looked up a game of quicky on another site (town game), and quickly looked through it on Friday. He struck me as a decently clever town player. I'm kind of missing that feeling here. He feels very defensive and uncomfortable. But I'm pussying out and voting kush. | ||
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On June 06 2016 04:48 Tictock wrote: When did you vote for Moosy Super? how did I miss that... I voted moosy at the very second the game started. | ||
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Uhh mafiamaniac "The Most Elite Pigeons (Medium Basic Mafia)". | ||
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On June 06 2016 05:06 QuickTwist wrote: IIoA is Information Instead of Analysis, just so we're clear. I figured through google. Is meh though. I also just prefer to not justify my reads ever. | ||
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On June 06 2016 05:05 scott31337 wrote: I still haven't gotten my role and I've PM'ed all three hosts phhbbt I have to vote though Wow. I kind of think this is townie rofl. | ||
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On June 06 2016 05:08 QuickTwist wrote: Oh God, how the hell did you find that game? My play has changed substantially since then. I did a lot of reaction testing this game and it was viewed as scummy without people understanding what I was doing. FML. Google. If you link me your more recent games I may look at them at some point in the future. If either of us are still alive then. | ||
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On June 06 2016 05:08 Tictock wrote: I kinda agree, the general flow of the game and how the votes are going seem to signal a very low key scum team that is probably not up for lynch atm. QT is also giving me vibes that he's not really to concerned with the pressure atm which isn't really in line with a try-hard scum playing the activity game. I'm wondering if he's a player more like Moosy who's play can be pretty questionable and is lynchbait. While he's kinda all over the place and I have a hard time tracking much line of thought he is being pretty consistent about putting stuff out there. Is your desire to lynch kush based on meta, or is it more policy due to him being pretty lackluster and only pushing a plynch himself? I think I might be more keen on lynching Skynx myself. Skynx has been meh iirc. But newbies are generally somewhat harder to read. Kush hasn't really picked a direction and his pregame and ingame are off. Pregame he seemed very excited but ingame he hasn't been pro-active except for a shitty plynch push on scott which ended up being nothing. | ||
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On June 06 2016 14:43 MoosyDoosy wrote: Just to let you know I reaaaaaally dislike it when someone acts like this, especially in a newbie game. Sure a town leader role is needed at some times but you inflate your importance which is irritating and makes you seem pretentious. There's also really no need to make people be "applicants" for you and act like they're waiting for you or something like that. Just talk with people on even terms. I'm as much of a lynch candidate as you are. There's absolutely no need to act otherwise. Everything I do is to get or produce information. Though I do enjoy it. | ||
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On June 06 2016 23:30 Tumblewood wrote: I thought jealous was scum for tryharding but it became less insecure-tryhard and more driven-tryhard. At this point I don't think he could ever be scum. Wrong. Can you link me to past games of Jealous? He's not in TLDB. | ||
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On June 07 2016 04:42 Tumblewood wrote: yeah just dismiss it as false pressure probably going to pressure you tomorrow and see if you crack You know we're both alive tomorrow? | ||
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On June 07 2016 07:37 emperorchampion wrote: I'm just so confused that Super pulls that with me, then says "why you call me maf during the night, wait till end of night" when someone calls him out. I can't decide if it's bad town or mafia, but I think just bad town. There's a big diff between scumreading during night and saying "im gonna fight you tomorrow" | ||
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On June 07 2016 14:17 Fecalfeast wrote: why should i listen to you you're not my dad Guy said he was afk for strategic reasons and has been defensive | ||
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On June 07 2016 15:38 Jealous wrote: Looking at another subject, if this Skynx bandwagon comes to fruition, it would be really interesting to see who was on it post-flop. ??? Why? What is skynx going to flip? | ||
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Read townie by most. Wrongfully pushing during night. Mafia is predictable. | ||
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On June 07 2016 23:51 MoosyDoosy wrote: He's not town beyond doubt. The biggest problem here is that you never showed you had a scum read on Jealous in the first place. Why the sudden flip? That does not facilitate such a response. From what I recall, you have taken every opportunity to call him town throughout the game. Why? | ||
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On June 08 2016 01:17 Jealous wrote: Seems like I need to see another day's votes and results to solidify my scum reads, but I feel like my town reads are becoming more solid because of a new approach I am using. However, given my superfail read Day 1, I would like to withhold reading anyone until Day 2 ends. Why do you reach this conclusion now? | ||
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On June 07 2016 23:20 Skynx wrote: Hmmmmmm I'm getting bandwagonned then ok lemme handle this. I'm gona start since QT lynch since I was away for the night. So up to 47, only clear push on me was from TT. Two other were like mayyyybe on lynching me: Moosy (cuz of qt case), FF (for same reason). Then just before lynch Tumble decides I'm the clear lynch target and tries to get others switch to me for shennanie, doesn't happen tho. Following that Super, btdt reads me mafia out of nowhere. Moosy somewhat mafia reads me but I can't make sense of that post anyway. Tumble gets nk. Moosy 100% sr's me but then is unsure again in same post. Then kush votes for me. You guys know what this looks like? + Show Spoiler + In order of appearance: On May 27 2016 05:25 Koshi wrote: No I am serious. Marv is mafia. Just read his filter. Look how much defense there is in it. Against Rels. Against sicklucker. He is always around for that. People notice it. But he just defends against it but there is never anything more. JAT open eyes. marv is mafia. Also being second on scumlynches as scum is his forte. On May 27 2016 07:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: Day 2 Koshi the VT is dead. It is now Day 2. Day ends Saturday, May 28 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00). You have to place your votes. On May 27 2016 07:03 marvellosity wrote: Great shot mafia, thank you On May 29 2016 07:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: Night 2 Marvellosity the 2-shot tracker was lynched. Day 2 Final Votecount marvellosity (8): Palmar, Superbia (1): Tumblewood, Vivax (1): marvellosity nnn_thekushmountains (0): Rels: (1) nnn_thekushmountains Damdred (0): Not Voting (0): It's now night 2. Night ends Sunday, May 29 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00). You have to get in your actions. Moral of the story is I see lots of sr's on me while only TT (and maybe btdt) shows a reasoning behind it. Okay? Who's the scum pushing on you? What did the "strategical afk" mean? | ||
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On June 08 2016 01:47 Jealous wrote: As I said it is a new approach I am using while looking at the data I've collected and I will know how reliable it is after a few more results are made apparent. You really need to reach conclusions dude. It's my main problem with you. | ||
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On June 08 2016 01:46 Superbia wrote: Okay? Who's the scum pushing on you? What did the "strategical afk" mean? | ||
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On June 08 2016 02:05 Jealous wrote: It's possible but I wouldn't say it's very likely. QT was in the lead for bans after Tictock voted for him and never left that position. At the time, the only person who was in contention with him was Scott. Even if three people switched their vote last second for kush, for example, QT would still be lynched even if the original 3 people who voted for QT. Everyone who piled on afterwards - is it really ensuring the lynch? How much insurance did they really think they needed? While statistically speaking is certainly possible that a mafia is on that list, it's hard for me to say who it may be. I think we can remove Scott from suspicion (here, at least) because he was voting to keep himself in the game should people switch their votes onto him. It would be more interesting if Skynx and Tictock saw my vehemence and used that as a springboard to start the bandwagon. Seeing as people seem inclined to vote Skynx, this is why I would rather see the flop after Day 2 before making any concrete arguments. Scum tend to spread out their votes naturally. It is somewhat likely, it doesn't have to be. However, it's still a decent metric to have for analyzing the game. | ||
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On June 08 2016 02:07 Jealous wrote: Not really, you've shown bias against me from the jump and having spent 12 years trolling forums in my free time I've learned not to take things personally from keyboard warriors and other trolls. You think it's useless? That's too bad, good thing I put spoilers so you can just gloss over it if you ever read my filter. Hopefully someone else found it useful. I thought it was a useful experience for me, at the least. Also, I love making tables. If it's your style and your way of playing the game, then by all means. I personally am a way different player. Probably why I'm scumread by a small handful. | ||
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On June 08 2016 02:09 Skynx wrote: Lol how cheeky can you get, I'm not gona explain my tactics publicly especially they by most part worked: please check people's reaction to #935 and #1043. The scum pushing me? I feel like you're trying to avoid every point I make in my posts somehow. Oh, oops. | ||
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On June 08 2016 02:09 Skynx wrote: I was watching Manila btw, thought everyone was afk Manilla ended like an hour ago. Though I firmly believe that watching dota is always a good excuse to be afk. | ||
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On June 08 2016 02:15 Skynx wrote: What do you think of Scott n TT? This next lynch is make or break that's why I haven't voted yet. TT had reads that were pretty much my reads at that exact point. Though blkcoffee's alignment is now completely null. | ||
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On June 08 2016 02:25 Skynx wrote: Bah fuck it you're right. It may summon people out of afk aswell maybe. Exactly. | ||
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On June 08 2016 03:48 Tictock wrote: And just to take things a step too far... If kush is in fact mafia I'm kinda thinking of a team like Kush/Moosy/Jealous Jesus christ. | ||
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I used to be able to call your alignment by reading your first 2 posts. | ||
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On June 08 2016 04:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:  just thought it was slightly ironic so I wanted to point it outMoosy gimme a team of 3 :D | ||
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Team of 4? | ||
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On June 08 2016 05:14 Tictock wrote: Kush semi defended Moosy from BtDt and has pretty much ignored Jealous while having suspicions on Tumble for no reason. Similarly I get the sense that Jealous has ignored Kush and Moosy. It's pretty shit but it kinda fit. This also just from what I recall, I didn't bother to fact check or check filters. Haha it's pretty sick because I had that team like a few hours ago in my head. Maybe Jealous is town but I dislike Moosy's defense of him and general lack of direction. | ||
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TT who are never mafia for you? | ||
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On June 08 2016 05:29 MoosyDoosy wrote: no, you're just bad and refusing to be good. on top of that, you're not reading the thread correctly which is why you're asking for things you should know the answers too and which is why you think i have no direction. but this is only my sixth time saying it so whatever. Maybe I'll listen on the 7th time. Who do you want to kill today? | ||
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On June 07 2016 05:33 MoosyDoosy wrote: I'm gonna tunnel on Superbia D2 and the rest of the game until he either dies or drops the superior egotistical act. Reminder. | ||
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On June 08 2016 05:41 Tictock wrote: Uhh nothing new to go on so my read hasn't changed. Yolo He's probably going to get replaced or modkilled. I think we shouldn't give his slot a pass if he gets replaced. Agreed? | ||
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On June 09 2016 01:35 Skynx wrote: Anyway kush please show some defence man i feel like no one is even trying this game... I think this is townie because skynx would be the other lynch lolol. | ||
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On June 09 2016 02:12 scott31337 wrote: Nothing really sticks out in the last couple of pages. I don't see a lot of defending kush which makes me worried, like fecal said yesterday. Super do you have any questions for me? Who would you like to lynch? Idk. Just the usual. What do you think of how the day has gone so far? | ||
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The Superbia-approved alternative lynches are: Lynx, Scott, beentheredonethat. Maybe moosy. | ||
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I'm going to be super selfish and request a medic save on me. Tomorrow is Friday and I can start pouring some actual time into the game. Also I can finally be part of EoD. If there is a vigi, you should probably shoot emperorchampion. It's paramount that we figure out how the wagons were set up. | ||
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On June 09 2016 18:39 Jealous wrote: @Superbia the sad thing is we're not sure if any of those roles even exist ( _ _ There are two. Everyone but medic should prob claim tomorrow depending on whether we lose prs in night. | ||
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On June 09 2016 20:10 Jealous wrote: So let's say a vet and a detective claim. What would we do from that point on? There is a very limited amount of possibilities, might as well strategize now if this is the plan? The two claims form a confirmed town circle. If there is only 1 claim then a medic is alive and hiding. I will elaborate more once I get home/am in bus. | ||
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On June 10 2016 03:40 Fecalfeast wrote: If a blue claims and nobody counterclaims we can't know if it's a real claim until a second blue claims. If two blues claim and nobody counterclaims (either with a third blue role or the same as one of the claimers) we can assume that both blue roles are town eliminating two people from the lynch pool and effectively controlling the nightkills from mafia. Claim wars is when mafia decides to risk counterclaiming with hopes of getting the blue role(s) lynched first. In the situation we are in it is fairly likely mafia will try to counter in this way as a failed counterclaim(mafia claimer is lynched) mafia still has two members. That being said I think mafia has been sitting pretty all game and we need to start looking into people who seem towny. If 3/4 possible roles claim there is no problem. That's why if only 1 role claims we know that there is a medic alive. | ||
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On June 10 2016 04:16 Skynx wrote: I agree with this, how is claiming blue beneficial to town? Let's say actual cop claims and 1 scum claims cop as well now mafia has a nk target. If that person was lying then the actual cop now has to suspect of another person which is actually town lol Also vet should never claim he doesn't get anything out of it other than having RB'd ez pz. If 2 people claim cop you know for a fact that one of them is scum, and you can figure it out from there. Much better than what we currently have. | ||
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On June 10 2016 04:09 Jealous wrote: Why would two people claiming be any less suspect than one person claiming? They could both be lying. Say PR1 claims, PR2 claims, but PR1 actually belongs to someone else. Then "claim wars" start where the actual PR1 claimed after the fake PR1 and how would we know the difference? There is no tangible way, as far as I see it. I almost want to say that it is a ploy by Superbia and EC to expose the influential PRs, because scum would be the only ones that know whether or not the person claiming is scum or not and thus would be much more valuable information to them than the town. However, I will wait to hear a more detailed explanation from Superbia and EC. Why are you grouping us together? | ||
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On June 10 2016 04:58 Jealous wrote: Correct me if I misunderstood the OP - is there guaranteed 4 blue PRs in this game? I was under the impression that this wasn't true. 2. | ||
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On June 10 2016 05:06 Jealous wrote: Okay, I just misunderstood your 3/4 claim post. In this scenario, as Skynx said, why would Veteran reveal?? He has no actions that could benefit the town, and it would only doom him. It's a confirmed town. | ||
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So? We get 1 confirmed town and 2 checks. | ||
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If it is mylo tomorrow, just remember that scum will always have 3 votes. And town will have either 4 or 5. If even 1 person is not on the same page, scum can push over the wrong wagon at the last moment. It will be paramount for town to be united. | ||
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On June 10 2016 14:40 MoosyDoosy wrote: doooooood. thoughts? who do you think are mafia? what do you think of my claim? Good claim. I want vet/vigi to claim to ensure it's real. I think tt is mafia then with btdt and 3rd yet to figure out. Mind you this is before vote analysis and reeval | ||
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On June 10 2016 15:00 Jealous wrote: Why would either claim?? They give up power and open the chance for a NK by being open. The only direct benefit to town for being open is cop and that's already happened. Perhaps if you could elaborate more on why you think this way? Vigi should've shot last night and moosy is dying before vet if he's town | ||
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On June 10 2016 08:30 Tictock wrote: I feel like voting Superbia. He's suddenly scumreading me off the Kush flip which was his main scumread all game. The read flipping like that when a couple other people brought up doubts after EoD feels opportunistic. I'm also just honestly not sure who is mafia anymore, it's time to reevaluate everyone. ##Vote: Superbia Gimme that PYP case. :D | ||
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Table 1: 3: framer 2: GF 1. framer 0. GF. Table 2: 3. cop 2. vig 1. cop 0. vig Table 3: 3. doc 2. vet 1. doc 0. vet Every dice roll ups a table, which goes around (3->0). Notice how the cop, doc, and framer are all uneven? That means we need all 3 tables to reach an uneven result to reach doc/cop/framer. That's impossible with 6 dice (even). | ||
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3 tables: - Each start at 0. - Each time a die is rolled, one of the tables is incremented by 1 according to the die result. - When a table reaches 3 and that table is incremented, it goes back to 0. So tables go 0->1->2->3->0. Or we can say EVEN->UNEVEN->EVEN->UNEVEN->EVEN->... This is part 1. Now we tie each table's value to their respective role: Table T1: 0: GF, 1 framer, 2 GF, ...etc. OR: T1: Even: GF, Uneven: Framer T2: Even: Vigi, Uneven: Cop T3: Even: Vet, Uneven: Doc This is part 2. Now when we divide 6 increments over these tables, everything being uneven is impossible. Why? Two answers: Answer 1 is expanded: In order to reach everything as uneven, we need to increment all 3 tables by 1, which leaves us with 3 increments (dice rolls) left. But how do we divide the remaining 3? If we increase a table by 1, it reaches even. If we increase a table by 2, we are left with 1. Finally, if we increase a table with 3 it becomes even. As such, it is impossible to reach this result. Answer 2 is reversed. Mathematically we know that an uneven number of elements of all uneven numbers results in an uneven number when added up (try it out). The same way that an even number of uneven numbers always results in an even number when added up. As such, The addition of 3 (number of tables) elements all being uneven can never be 6 (an even number). | ||
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My odd/even number thing works perfectly. | ||
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If moosy is lying he can be counterclaimed by the real vigi/cop. If this doesn't happen you are automatically lying. We do not need a CC on you. | ||
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If you're mafia you're either dead or one of your team mates has to put himself on the line. | ||
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On June 10 2016 19:20 Tictock wrote: I take a different approach everygame. Also I tend to get more involved as the game goes on, and PyP was one hell of a game. + Show Spoiler + Sadly, even that EoN case didn't do the job it was supposed to do... Does that make me scum? Fight me. You genuinely think I'm scum? | ||
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I am not the cop. I am not the vigi. Therefore I believe moosy is the real town cop. | ||
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On June 05 2016 22:26 Superbia wrote: So tumble is town, tictock is town, and moosy is town. Fuck it. All of them town. On June 05 2016 22:26 Superbia wrote: And let's throw FF in as well. On June 05 2016 22:26 Superbia wrote: beentheredonethat is mafia or a PR. So that resolves itself. On June 05 2016 22:28 Superbia wrote: emperorchampion and blkcoffee (I think it was blkcoffee) town too. What if I was 100% right? :D | ||
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Skynx/Jealous/beentheredonethat. Let's do it. :D | ||
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On June 10 2016 22:16 MoosyDoosy wrote: If you just want to confirm I'm cop, look at my filter all of D2. I'm basically assuming Jealous is town the whole time because of my check. I think only jealous can CC now. | ||
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Who do you think is the last mafia btw? | ||
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On June 10 2016 22:38 MoosyDoosy wrote: it might be you, tictock, any number of people. mafia did their job of slimming down the list of guaranteed townies well. Get lost sonno. I'm never mafia for a variety of reasons. I think TT is town too for now simply bc of d1 reads. | ||
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There is always 1 vigi OR cop (never 1 cop AND 1 vigi or 2 cops or w/e). There is always 1 doc OR vet (never 1 doc AND 1 vet or 2 docs or w/e). | ||
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So skynx+scott. | ||
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On June 12 2016 06:52 emperorchampion wrote: How's the DnD? Pretty awesome! We did apocalypse world and I got to violate some people with my violation glove and mind control command them. | ||
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On June 12 2016 07:50 MoosyDoosy wrote: by any chance are you scum and using mind control command on me? Man up. :D You can't pussy out now. Just go full yolo regardless of your feelings. | ||
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On June 12 2016 07:51 MoosyDoosy wrote: dooood i'm never confident in my lynches tbh. especially since there was this one game on a different site where i nailed 2 out of 3 of the mafia but mislynched and town lost because of me. Oh well. That shit happens. If emperor/TT is mafia I'm (probably) losing this game as well. I may put in some sick analysis next day but doubt it. | ||
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On June 12 2016 07:53 beentheredonethat wrote: I have a shadowrun group. lot's of fun. Played shadowrun campaign once but wasn't a great success. I enjoyed my character a lot but I think I was the only one. =/ | ||
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On June 12 2016 07:56 beentheredonethat wrote: I play a face (pornomancer) and it's really awesome. Lots of talking. Just like mafia, eh? Haha I was the semi-face. I was a assassin gentleman who could talk his way into things and had a sniper I remote controlled with my robotic eye. Good times. | ||
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We could also have EC in there but 3 FFA lends to final 3 mindsets, which I am fond of reading. | ||
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Also why are EC and skynx both mafia? Where are you getting this information from? | ||
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Why was I your hardest scum then? What happened that made you flip so enormously? From what I see you are no longer even considering me. What happened to tinfoil? | ||
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Skynx you need to step it up bigtime, because if I cannot decide at EoD, I'm going to default on you most likely. | ||
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On June 14 2016 15:58 Jealous wrote: IDEALLY we have two lynches ;-; I'm working on a big post again btw so maybe we should coordinate after that is finalized. Yes. If we ever misslynch we lose. I have a vague ideas about teams and will (try to) refine them later today. Have had terrible sleep though. | ||
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On June 14 2016 16:17 Jealous wrote: I mean I could take like a 10-15 minute break from class probably. Class starts an hour before EoD and I can come in 15 minutes prior to the deadline on my phone. That's fine. I'll try to be here a few (2-3) hours before EoD so we can discuss some more. | ||
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On June 15 2016 00:56 Tictock wrote: Honestly my thinking here today is this. There has been a lot of pushing on Scott and Skynx such that they seemed like the next obv lynch targets. Who? Who has been pushing them? | ||
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On June 13 2016 10:52 scott31337 wrote: Confirmed dead Final Vote Count: Day 1 QuickTwist (5): scott31337 (2): nnn_thekushmountains, beentheredonethat (2): Tictock, Fecalfeast nnn_thekushmountains (1): Superbia MoosyDoosy (1): Jealous (1): QuickTwist Skynx (0): Superbia (0): Not Voting (1): blkcoffee Final Vote Count Day 2 nnn_thekushmountains (6): Superbia, Skynx, Tictock, beentheredonethat, emperorchampion, Jealous emporerchampion (3): MoosyDoosy, Fecalfeast, Skynx (1): nnn_thekushmountains beentheredonethat (0): Scott31337 (0): Not-voting blkcoffee Day 3 vote count beentheredonethat (7): MoosyDoosy, Superbia, scott31337. Jealous, Tictock, Skynx, emperorchampion Superbia(0): MoosyDoosy(1): beentheredonethat Not voting (0): Now if I do 99-100% (Superbia only 99% for me, Jealous is 100%) + Show Spoiler [99%s] + Final Vote Count: Day 1 QuickTwist (5): scott31337 (2): nnn_thekushmountains, beentheredonethat (2): Tictock, Fecalfeast nnn_thekushmountains (1): Superbia MoosyDoosy (1): Jealous (1): QuickTwist Skynx (0): Superbia (0): Not Voting (1): blkcoffee Final Vote Count Day 2 nnn_thekushmountains (6): Superbia, Skynx, Tictock, beentheredonethat, emperorchampion, Jealous emporerchampion (3): MoosyDoosy, Fecalfeast, Skynx (1): nnn_thekushmountains beentheredonethat (0): Scott31337 (0): Not-voting blkcoffee Day 3 vote count beentheredonethat (7): MoosyDoosy, Superbia, scott31337. Jealous, Tictock, Skynx, emperorchampion Superbia(0): MoosyDoosy(1): beentheredonethat Not voting (0): And I do Skynx mafia and me town + Show Spoiler [Skynx mafia me town] + Final Vote Count: Day 1 QuickTwist (5): scott31337 (2): nnn_thekushmountains, beentheredonethat (2): Tictock, Fecalfeast nnn_thekushmountains (1): Superbia MoosyDoosy (1): Jealous (1): QuickTwist Skynx (0): Superbia (0): Not Voting (1): blkcoffee Final Vote Count Day 2 nnn_thekushmountains (6): Superbia, Skynx, Tictock, beentheredonethat, emperorchampion, Jealous emporerchampion (3): MoosyDoosy, Fecalfeast, Skynx (1): nnn_thekushmountains beentheredonethat (0): scott31337 (0): Not-voting blkcoffee Day 3 vote count beentheredonethat (7): MoosyDoosy, Superbia, scott31337. Jealous, Tictock, Skynx, emperorchampion Superbia(0): MoosyDoosy(1): beentheredonethat Not voting (0): I need to re-read Tictock's d1 and if he voted on btdt legitimately or was a throw-away vote (that the lynch was already secured) This is actually so bad. This is huge post analysis. While you are making this post you should've concluded "holy shit, emperorchampion is mafia!". But you didn't, which probably means you actually didn't give a shit about the "analysis". You don't reach any conclusions either. Why is emperorchampion mafia from your POV? Because all town voted on him and all mafia voted on kush. Mafia tend to spread out their votes. | ||
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On June 15 2016 02:19 Jealous wrote: This is a good point, but you have to consider that yesterday's lynch vote was decided pretty early on because of input from me and you. The window for scott to give much of a shit was pretty brief, partially because I didn't wait long enough to claim and that's my bad. Why not his huge activity spurt yesterday after it was clear he was red? Like it was pretty obvious he believed my logic right? He sided like right away (iirc). | ||
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Look at when btdt votes. It's essentially even. And TT/Skynx/Scott already have their vote down. I think scum honestly waits with their vote there. So you can have the possibility of getting bus cred in case the shit goes down on your partner. | ||
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On June 15 2016 02:37 Jealous wrote: TT is on EC, Scott is on EC, I'm on EC. I think if you vote EC, the only way we lose is if TT/Scott is the team, which I find to be unlikely. Or scott/skynx. | ||
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On June 10 2016 10:04 Tictock wrote: Ok I said I was gunna hold off, but mulling things over I think I feel pretty good about Moosy's claim. As such I propose we have a very solid town circle of Moosy, Jealous, and myself (I think I can backup why I am town if I need to). I also feel pretty good about Emp being town still. So question to Moosy and Jealous. What do you guys think about Emp? Assuming for a moment that he is town, who do you think the last townie is? (between Skynx, Scott and Super) + Show Spoiler [Irony] + This reminded me... On June 07 2016 06:01 Tumblewood wrote: scumlist v2.0 everyone whose name starts with s Personally I could actually see a team of BtDt, Skynx and Super/Scott. Gdi TT your reads flip around so much. | ||
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On June 15 2016 07:11 Skynx wrote: Im around whatsup On June 07 2016 23:48 Skynx wrote: My T>S meter Most Town emperor: reads on everything, has his own opinion, insightul for a non-vet, generally active Jealous: Prolly most active, no way he's a good target after QT. [orange]Midway[/orange[ Super: 9 pages filter wtf, mostly one liners, sr's me without basis, bandwagony. Scott: There is the whole didn't get my role pm thing, inactive otherwise Scummy Ticktock: Pressures me D1, changes opinion just before lynch, useless arguing about shennanie which leads to nothing, very vague reads on last few posts. In the end, try-hard to not take any pressure on himself. kush: Acts like this godly figure over the whole game but actual contributions are very small. Mostly arguing with everyone about how QT was bad lynch, teaching Jealous how to play mafia, tryin to find town leader. Gives no clear reads, mostly commenting on others reads. Again professional at acting natural and avoiding pressure. Null: Moosy is unreadable do to the nature of his posts btdt with some good some bad posts but kinda inactive, I can't rly read him blk is gone. What happened to this? Why is emperor now more scummy than TT? That's a big turn around. | ||
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On June 15 2016 07:24 Skynx wrote: Emperor is scum for lack of defence, dropping reads on Scott D3. Kinda similar to how Scott completely switched from voting to you then dropping it after btdt became inevitable. I actually can't decide who is more scummy between those 3. How does this actually make him scum? | ||
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On June 15 2016 07:26 Skynx wrote: Thats just a brief resume, go back 3 pages man. How do you feel about the fact that his team mate must've voted him? | ||
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On June 15 2016 07:41 Jealous wrote: Nah I'll stay here. Best case scenario, EC flips red and we have something. Worst case, we lose. Don't see a better choice. All right. I will vote TT and look good post-game or look like an idiot @flip. | ||
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On June 15 2016 07:42 scott31337 wrote: I'm here - Are we good with EC or are we switching? Why the fuck are you here 15m before EoD. | ||
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On June 15 2016 07:42 scott31337 wrote: I'm here - Are we good with EC or are we switching? What do you think? | ||
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On June 15 2016 07:45 Jealous wrote: If we lose right now, I firmly believe I am scum MVP without being scum. Which is absolutely terrible. Don't worry about it either way man. Many are here to learn. | ||
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Min-max. | ||
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On June 15 2016 07:49 Jealous wrote: It's just gotten so much harder without context clues from D/N posts. Everything is pure conjecture. This is why when I was confronted with the question "who do you want to be?" I shied from responsibility by saying I didn't really want to be a PR and have actual sway; my first two votes have shown this ;; To be fair normally the game goes a bit 'faster'. This game has lacked a real leader, so to say. | ||
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On June 15 2016 07:58 scott31337 wrote:  FUUUUU | ||
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On June 15 2016 08:09 Jealous wrote: Oh fuck yes. Unfortunately that means I will be lynched tonight, right? Unless the remaining scum determines that it is more profitable to be rid of Superbia. Yeh, you're gone. I'm not dying simply because I'm somewhat tied with emperor. He kinda sheeped me a lot this game and I TRed him. | ||
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On June 15 2016 08:09 Jealous wrote: Or if Superbia is scum #superconspiracy. Naw but I'm sure it'll come up tomorrow. It's TT or skynx. | ||
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On June 15 2016 08:11 scott31337 wrote: Nicee!!!! Skynx next, wish it was the RB so we could have Jealous for another day, but oh well. I'll go over the questions I was asked in the last few pages here in a bit I really need to know where TT is. | ||
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Scott, know that I had both EC and skynx ready to vote with me on you and then I backed out bc I think I realized your town tell. :D | ||
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On June 15 2016 08:16 Jealous wrote: Honestly, Superbia, I know that factually your vote didn't mean anything but if it did (your vote had forced others to switch and EC was the actual scum) it would look so terrible for you. I thought we were a circle, part of a whole. Why did you doubt me. I only truly believe in my own reads man. I don't doubt that you're town. | ||
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The fact that I had two other people who were up for voting scott (who is pretty much always town now) and then backed out of it just solidifies that I'm always town. | ||
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On June 15 2016 11:26 Tictock wrote: This is such a shit post right before EoD. Spent the whole time trying to get people to move to Scott and then me, then right before the flip "oh, yea I guess you could be scum" How does any of this make me scum? Your storyline is that I bus my team mate during mylo d1 super super hard and then hard defend my other team mate during mylo 2 super super hard. How does this fit the narrative for me as scum? Also I could've switched to scott (both skynx and EC were willing to vote), but didn't. What is my scum agenda TT? | ||
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On June 15 2016 18:31 Jealous wrote: Damn dude, never seen you get flustered like this so far. Why so angry? Because TT's a good player and he should know better than this. Idk, was just annoyed. | ||
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Skynx, please explain your thought rationale behind "being tactically afk" during EoD2. | ||
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work has me busy. For me this day comes down to you and skynx. Ill be around in ~10hrs or so to question a bit. I'd prefer it if you could both (skynx and tt) be around at around that time for some inquisitional questions. | ||
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Jealous being right on EC as well. | ||
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On June 17 2016 18:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because when Tumblewood dies on N1 regardless of how good he played (no offense here) it means that you (or TT - but he looked quite town to me) have to be mafia or mafia is all newbies, since you have like more experience in TL Mafia than all other players combined and you are most likely going to be right sooner or later and most likely not get lynched if you are town. I mean, anyone from Tumble, FF, TT, Moosy, if scum, will 95% night kill you. I would guess that I didn't die this game because of my new play(/work) schedule. x: | ||
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On June 17 2016 20:51 NocturneMage wrote: Apologies, I am on the floor at work all day today and my counterparts are still asleep in the US :/ No worries tyty | ||
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