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On June 06 2016 06:43 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2016 06:38 MoosyDoosy wrote:On June 06 2016 06:37 Tictock wrote:On June 06 2016 05:34 emperorchampion wrote:
I don't think too much has been said in the last few pages to sway my opinion on voting QT. What I'm thinking is that if QT is town, tumble is probably town and jealous is maf. And if QT if maf, tumble is probably maf, jealous is town.
kush is a bit of a toss up, his filter is pretty empty but maybe he has an excuse? The plynch seems a little off to me.
Why would QT being mafia make you think Tumble is mafia with him? tumble pressured QuickTwist a ton but ended up saying a policy lynch was better. I thought it was a bit suspicious too but i think kush would be more likely Mafia than Tumble if QuickTwist flips Mafia. Yea ok, I can see that. And yea Kush might be a fine lynch as well. Honestly though I'm just not sure if I really care who gets lynched between QT, Kush, Skynx, and emp atm. Lots of people not really giving out good town vibes is making this a bit of a toss up lynch.
What is your beef with emperor
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On June 06 2016 06:40 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2016 00:00 QuickTwist wrote:
OK I reread the thread, here are my reads:
Skynx and Ticktock are far and away my strongest scum reads and I really want one of them to get lynched today. I would be OK with a scott lynch.
The Town AF people are:
Emperorchampion
blkcoffee
beentheredonethat
Tumblewood
These are the people I will not be voting all game. After posting this why would you vote Jealous? Scott was tied with you for a long time and you making an impossible case 5 hours befour lynch? If you're really VT your moves dont make any sense.
To be quite honest, one possible reason is if he is in fact town, and thus suspects me of being mafia, so if he flips town he will further cast suspicion on me by voting for me. Someone already mentioned that if he flips town, they will think I am scum. This made me doubt he was scum for the first time in a while, because it makes sense as a townie move to me and would be guaranteed to have impact post-mortem whereas a vote for Scott would be seen as him trying to save his hide and might not even work considering how many people have been leaning scum on QT.
The other possible reason is because according to him I "suck at this game."
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On June 06 2016 04:44 Superbia wrote:
Also I thought moosy was shapelog. Disregard my townread there. x: (though he may still be town)
nice!
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On June 06 2016 06:47 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2016 06:40 Skynx wrote:On June 06 2016 00:00 QuickTwist wrote:
OK I reread the thread, here are my reads:
Skynx and Ticktock are far and away my strongest scum reads and I really want one of them to get lynched today. I would be OK with a scott lynch.
The Town AF people are:
Emperorchampion
blkcoffee
beentheredonethat
Tumblewood
These are the people I will not be voting all game. After posting this why would you vote Jealous? Scott was tied with you for a long time and you making an impossible case 5 hours befour lynch? If you're really VT your moves dont make any sense. To be quite honest, one possible reason is if he is in fact town, and thus suspects me of being mafia, so if he flips town he will further cast suspicion on me by voting for me. Someone already mentioned that if he flips town, they will think I am scum. This made me doubt he was scum for the first time in a while, because it makes sense as a townie move to me and would be guaranteed to have impact post-mortem whereas a vote for Scott would be seen as him trying to save his hide and might not even work considering how many people have been leaning scum on QT. The other possible reason is because according to him I "suck at this game."
EBWOP Even though it made me doubt he was scum, it would be doubly foolish for me to change my vote, on top of the fact that I still see him as the #1 candidate.
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On June 06 2016 04:54 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2016 04:48 Tictock wrote:
When did you vote for Moosy Super? how did I miss that... I voted moosy at the very second the game started.
a wise choice tbh
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On June 06 2016 05:05 QuickTwist wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2016 05:01 Jealous wrote:On June 06 2016 04:45 QuickTwist wrote:On June 06 2016 04:21 Jealous wrote:
As far as the other posters, I'm glad that people have started pushing some ideas around as we approach the deadline. Here are some thoughts I have on the game so far:
1. I think that a lot of people in this thread are grasping at straws right now, which is understandable because there isn't much to go off of on Day 1. I don't see any utterly clear alliances here as of yet. It seems like a lot of A thinks B is scum who thinks C is scum who thinks D is scum who thinks A is scum, or something of the like.
2. Given the seemingly inconclusive finger-pointing patters so far, we will have to wait to see the results of the lynch and who voted for whom as our next indicator. As of right now, if my hypothesis is correct and QT is scum, then the people who voted alongside him without much early justification would be kushmountains and Tumblewood, who have not changed their vote despite the player being changed out and I found their arguments for removing sqrt to be weak in the first place (inactivity plynch 2 hours into the game, if I recall correctly? on top of that, other people were just as inactive). This is the most alliance-y thing I can point at so far, but it's too early for me to concretely say I feel that they are scum.
3. Following this line of logic, I don't feel that the votes/inclinations on QT are indicative of a scum alliance because most people have shown their own reasons for voting for QT, most of which are valid, or at least more valid in my eyes than a Scott lynch. Of course, if QT flips town it is possible that one or two scum bandwagoned in order to ensure that he wins over Scott in the last voting push, but it will be hard to tell who. It's simply too early to speculate in specific terms about who would be scum or not in this hypothetical scenario, so I will wait until I see all of the votes and their results.
4. I haven't gotten a strong read on anyone, which is probably because I'm newbie. So far my "could be scum" list is:
1. Kushmountains
2. Tumblewood
3. Superbia (weak read on this, don't have much certainty at all)
4. Fecalfeast (too absent, regardless of whatever excuses he may have)
and of course QT.
Everyone else, as far as I can tell, is townie. Scott can be thrown up there as well for his relative inactivity but I don't think it's fair to judge as quickly because he only learned he was in the game less than 24 hours ago. What if I said YOU could be scum if I turn out to be Town. Baseless you think? Honestly it is really freaking annoying you haven't re-evaluated your read on me and somehow everything I do is scummy to you. That is the definition of confirmation bias. So because you have chosen to no re-evaluate your read on me, even though my content has improved as the shit posting of day 1 decreases. can't help but think you are pushing an agenda. Claiming VT. ##Vote: Jealous Your only concrete argument as far as I recall is the one you just made, which is that I am pushing an agenda, so it's not entirely baseless. However, as objective as I can possibly be about this, I would have to say that your argument is weak. The majority of the town has read me as town, and for some that was a choice between scumreading me or you. I will concede that your posting has definitely improved since the first 24 hours. I see what you mean by confirmation bias now more clearly. I will justify by saying it is akin to how one approaches science: you formulate a hypothesis, run a test, gather some data, try to ascertain a conclusion. Then you present your article for peer review. So far peer review has corroborated my initial findings. The initial results will be put to the test after we see the flop. Although you claimed Blue PR since the first minutes of the game, which could've meant anything since you were shitposting a lot in that time, this is the first time you've claimed VT. MoosyDoosy also claimed VT, if I'm correct in assuming VT = Veteran, but his posting has been inconsistent too. I'm not saying this to make any sort of point, just doing stream of consciousness at the moment. I don't think it'd be wise of you to claim Blue PR if you actually were a Blue PR in the first minutes of the game, because scum would know that you are not scum, and thus when both the Day 1 lynch and the first scum kill are relative stabs in the dark, this seems like a poor strategy because it paints a target on your back. Of course, this could backfire and cause us to do scum's work for them, but I believe that there is no stronger case right now for anyone else and thus I will maintain my vote for you. OMG you are so wrong its not even funny. VT stands for vanilla townie. You are lynching the most worthless role there is in this game based on confirmation bias. People should take a really good look at you tomorrow.
woooah hold up. I'm mafia and veteran but none of those roles beat being VT. As VT you have nothing to rely on and use yourself and your own posts to sift through town and Mafia. It's one of the most exciting roles in the game unless you roll it 8+ times in a row in which case it gets slightly boring.
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On June 06 2016 06:49 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2016 06:47 Jealous wrote:On June 06 2016 06:40 Skynx wrote:On June 06 2016 00:00 QuickTwist wrote:
OK I reread the thread, here are my reads:
Skynx and Ticktock are far and away my strongest scum reads and I really want one of them to get lynched today. I would be OK with a scott lynch.
The Town AF people are:
Emperorchampion
blkcoffee
beentheredonethat
Tumblewood
These are the people I will not be voting all game. After posting this why would you vote Jealous? Scott was tied with you for a long time and you making an impossible case 5 hours befour lynch? If you're really VT your moves dont make any sense. To be quite honest, one possible reason is if he is in fact town, and thus suspects me of being mafia, so if he flips town he will further cast suspicion on me by voting for me. Someone already mentioned that if he flips town, they will think I am scum. This made me doubt he was scum for the first time in a while, because it makes sense as a townie move to me and would be guaranteed to have impact post-mortem whereas a vote for Scott would be seen as him trying to save his hide and might not even work considering how many people have been leaning scum on QT. The other possible reason is because according to him I "suck at this game." EBWOP Even though it made me doubt he was scum, it would be doubly foolish for me to change my vote, on top of the fact that I still see him as the #1 candidate.
I understand your reasoning here but why are you answering for your #1 scumread?
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On June 06 2016 05:07 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2016 05:05 scott31337 wrote:
I still haven't gotten my role and I've PM'ed all three hosts phhbbt I have to vote though
Wow. I kind of think this is townie rofl.
he has to be town. if you don't get a role but need to fulfill the post requirement you assume a town mindset lol.
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On June 06 2016 06:52 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2016 05:07 Superbia wrote:On June 06 2016 05:05 scott31337 wrote:
I still haven't gotten my role and I've PM'ed all three hosts phhbbt I have to vote though
Wow. I kind of think this is townie rofl. he has to be town. if you don't get a role but need to fulfill the post requirement you assume a town mindset lol.
Thinking like a townie before you get your role has nothing to do with your alignment or am i being oblivious to the joke?
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On June 06 2016 06:54 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2016 06:52 MoosyDoosy wrote:On June 06 2016 05:07 Superbia wrote:On June 06 2016 05:05 scott31337 wrote:
I still haven't gotten my role and I've PM'ed all three hosts phhbbt I have to vote though
Wow. I kind of think this is townie rofl. he has to be town. if you don't get a role but need to fulfill the post requirement you assume a town mindset lol. Thinking like a townie before you get your role has nothing to do with your alignment or am i being oblivious to the joke?
if you don't have a role and you have to post something i'd assume i'm townie and post townie things so as not to get lynched. i was just trying to explain what scott was doing. so no, he might not be town right now.
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Vote Count: Day 1
QuickTwist (6): MoosyDoosy, Jealous, Skynx, Tictock, emperorchampion, scott31337, MoosyDoosy
scott31337 (2): nnn_thekushmountains, QuickTwist, Tumblewood
nnn_thekushmountains (2): Superbia, Fecalfeast
MoosyDoosy (1): Superbia, beentheredonethat
Jealous (1): QuickTwist
Skynx (0): Fecalfeast
Superbia (0): QuickTwist
Not Voting (1): blkcoffee
Currently QuickTwist will be executed. Day 1 ends in on 23:00 GMT (+00:00).
The voting thread is here.
Only votes there will be counted.
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On June 06 2016 06:39 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2016 05:42 QuickTwist wrote:On June 06 2016 05:34 Tictock wrote:On June 06 2016 05:15 QuickTwist wrote:On June 06 2016 05:14 Tictock wrote:
QT what was your reasoning for claiming VT now? I'm getting lynched, Duh. It's just... if you are VT and decided to open the game by claiming Blue (having a PR) then I can only assume you did so to create some discussion and in a very off chance draw mafia KP. If it looks like you are getting lynched then I'm not sure why you would change your plans there and claim VT instead. Like if I were in your shoes I'd go full fake claim to try and get the wagon off me and draw mafia KP tonight. Chance you get lynched anyways but hey you are only VT, and if you convince people you are blue you have a good chance at drawing KP. Sure you are setting yourself up to die one way or another, but if you wanted to play the long game you probably don't open with a fake claim to be a PR. So claiming VT now as an "hey don't lynch me I'm just town and not important" doesn't really make sense. It seems more like a play for survival especially since you literally said, On June 06 2016 05:05 QuickTwist wrote:On June 06 2016 05:01 Jealous wrote:On June 06 2016 04:45 QuickTwist wrote:On June 06 2016 04:21 Jealous wrote:
As far as the other posters, I'm glad that people have started pushing some ideas around as we approach the deadline. Here are some thoughts I have on the game so far:
1. I think that a lot of people in this thread are grasping at straws right now, which is understandable because there isn't much to go off of on Day 1. I don't see any utterly clear alliances here as of yet. It seems like a lot of A thinks B is scum who thinks C is scum who thinks D is scum who thinks A is scum, or something of the like.
2. Given the seemingly inconclusive finger-pointing patters so far, we will have to wait to see the results of the lynch and who voted for whom as our next indicator. As of right now, if my hypothesis is correct and QT is scum, then the people who voted alongside him without much early justification would be kushmountains and Tumblewood, who have not changed their vote despite the player being changed out and I found their arguments for removing sqrt to be weak in the first place (inactivity plynch 2 hours into the game, if I recall correctly? on top of that, other people were just as inactive). This is the most alliance-y thing I can point at so far, but it's too early for me to concretely say I feel that they are scum.
3. Following this line of logic, I don't feel that the votes/inclinations on QT are indicative of a scum alliance because most people have shown their own reasons for voting for QT, most of which are valid, or at least more valid in my eyes than a Scott lynch. Of course, if QT flips town it is possible that one or two scum bandwagoned in order to ensure that he wins over Scott in the last voting push, but it will be hard to tell who. It's simply too early to speculate in specific terms about who would be scum or not in this hypothetical scenario, so I will wait until I see all of the votes and their results.
4. I haven't gotten a strong read on anyone, which is probably because I'm newbie. So far my "could be scum" list is:
1. Kushmountains
2. Tumblewood
3. Superbia (weak read on this, don't have much certainty at all)
4. Fecalfeast (too absent, regardless of whatever excuses he may have)
and of course QT.
Everyone else, as far as I can tell, is townie. Scott can be thrown up there as well for his relative inactivity but I don't think it's fair to judge as quickly because he only learned he was in the game less than 24 hours ago. What if I said YOU could be scum if I turn out to be Town. Baseless you think? Honestly it is really freaking annoying you haven't re-evaluated your read on me and somehow everything I do is scummy to you. That is the definition of confirmation bias. So because you have chosen to no re-evaluate your read on me, even though my content has improved as the shit posting of day 1 decreases. can't help but think you are pushing an agenda. Claiming VT. ##Vote: Jealous Your only concrete argument as far as I recall is the one you just made, which is that I am pushing an agenda, so it's not entirely baseless. However, as objective as I can possibly be about this, I would have to say that your argument is weak. The majority of the town has read me as town, and for some that was a choice between scumreading me or you. I will concede that your posting has definitely improved since the first 24 hours. I see what you mean by confirmation bias now more clearly. I will justify by saying it is akin to how one approaches science: you formulate a hypothesis, run a test, gather some data, try to ascertain a conclusion. Then you present your article for peer review. So far peer review has corroborated my initial findings. The initial results will be put to the test after we see the flop. Although you claimed Blue PR since the first minutes of the game, which could've meant anything since you were shitposting a lot in that time, this is the first time you've claimed VT. MoosyDoosy also claimed VT, if I'm correct in assuming VT = Veteran, but his posting has been inconsistent too. I'm not saying this to make any sort of point, just doing stream of consciousness at the moment. I don't think it'd be wise of you to claim Blue PR if you actually were a Blue PR in the first minutes of the game, because scum would know that you are not scum, and thus when both the Day 1 lynch and the first scum kill are relative stabs in the dark, this seems like a poor strategy because it paints a target on your back. Of course, this could backfire and cause us to do scum's work for them, but I believe that there is no stronger case right now for anyone else and thus I will maintain my vote for you. OMG you are so wrong its not even funny. VT stands for vanilla townie. You are lynching the most worthless role there is in this game based on confirmation bias. People should take a really good look at you tomorrow. Which just says to me "Hey don't hurt me, I'm not important" Fantastic logic. One problem though. What happens when we lynch a different townie today and then people find out my claim is bogus so I get lynched anyways? I rather have 1 town die than two, its that simple. Why are you assuming we'd lynch a townie if we don't lynch you?
Who is assuming anything here? I said what happens when, not if we don't lynch me we lynch a townie.
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On June 06 2016 06:44 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2016 06:43 Tictock wrote:On June 06 2016 06:38 MoosyDoosy wrote:On June 06 2016 06:37 Tictock wrote:On June 06 2016 05:34 emperorchampion wrote:
I don't think too much has been said in the last few pages to sway my opinion on voting QT. What I'm thinking is that if QT is town, tumble is probably town and jealous is maf. And if QT if maf, tumble is probably maf, jealous is town.
kush is a bit of a toss up, his filter is pretty empty but maybe he has an excuse? The plynch seems a little off to me.
Why would QT being mafia make you think Tumble is mafia with him? tumble pressured QuickTwist a ton but ended up saying a policy lynch was better. I thought it was a bit suspicious too but i think kush would be more likely Mafia than Tumble if QuickTwist flips Mafia. Yea ok, I can see that. And yea Kush might be a fine lynch as well. Honestly though I'm just not sure if I really care who gets lynched between QT, Kush, Skynx, and emp atm. Lots of people not really giving out good town vibes is making this a bit of a toss up lynch. i'm giving out all the fluffy wovey dovey town vibes. :D which is strange for me. O.O does that mean I'm scum? o/
Does it?
I kinda got more of a sense of a low-key version of the town play I recall from you. Though if it makes you feel better you are my weakest townread due to it being such a long time since I've played with you or seen your play.
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A lot of quiet people this close to deadline has me worried for this wagon
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On June 06 2016 06:44 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2016 06:43 Tictock wrote:On June 06 2016 06:38 MoosyDoosy wrote:On June 06 2016 06:37 Tictock wrote:On June 06 2016 05:34 emperorchampion wrote:
I don't think too much has been said in the last few pages to sway my opinion on voting QT. What I'm thinking is that if QT is town, tumble is probably town and jealous is maf. And if QT if maf, tumble is probably maf, jealous is town.
kush is a bit of a toss up, his filter is pretty empty but maybe he has an excuse? The plynch seems a little off to me.
Why would QT being mafia make you think Tumble is mafia with him? tumble pressured QuickTwist a ton but ended up saying a policy lynch was better. I thought it was a bit suspicious too but i think kush would be more likely Mafia than Tumble if QuickTwist flips Mafia. Yea ok, I can see that. And yea Kush might be a fine lynch as well. Honestly though I'm just not sure if I really care who gets lynched between QT, Kush, Skynx, and emp atm. Lots of people not really giving out good town vibes is making this a bit of a toss up lynch. i'm giving out all the fluffy wovey dovey town vibes. :D which is strange for me. O.O does that mean I'm scum? o/
The votes still out on that - but you are aware of your meta - so you are on the scummier side of null for now.
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On June 06 2016 07:13 Fecalfeast wrote:
A lot of quiet people this close to deadline has me worried for this wagon
Hmmmmmm
Or is that scums plan? wifomwifomwifom
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On June 06 2016 06:47 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2016 06:43 Tictock wrote:On June 06 2016 06:38 MoosyDoosy wrote:On June 06 2016 06:37 Tictock wrote:On June 06 2016 05:34 emperorchampion wrote:
I don't think too much has been said in the last few pages to sway my opinion on voting QT. What I'm thinking is that if QT is town, tumble is probably town and jealous is maf. And if QT if maf, tumble is probably maf, jealous is town.
kush is a bit of a toss up, his filter is pretty empty but maybe he has an excuse? The plynch seems a little off to me.
Why would QT being mafia make you think Tumble is mafia with him? tumble pressured QuickTwist a ton but ended up saying a policy lynch was better. I thought it was a bit suspicious too but i think kush would be more likely Mafia than Tumble if QuickTwist flips Mafia. Yea ok, I can see that. And yea Kush might be a fine lynch as well. Honestly though I'm just not sure if I really care who gets lynched between QT, Kush, Skynx, and emp atm. Lots of people not really giving out good town vibes is making this a bit of a toss up lynch. What is your beef with emperor
I made a post about it before, but when I go back to look at what I was talking about I'm realizing I messed up and got some posts confused.
For some reason I thought emp had posted this:
On June 04 2016 19:09 beentheredonethat wrote:
Also, following up on Tumblewood's post about QT and Jealous: if I simply follow the reads that I did so far without looking at Jealous' filter (which I haven't done yet), my logical conclusion should be that Jealous is scum. Here is my thought process about that:
1. I townread Tumblewood.
2. Tumblewood thinks that between QT and Jealous, one is scum.
3. I townread QT.
That makes Jealous scum (only if Tumblewood's thought is correct which, of course, is not granted). I am going to look at Jealous more detailed.
Which is just an out there post that seems like a weird way to conclude you should look more closely at someone.
Checking over the rest on BtDt's filter I think we should just pretend I put his name on that list instead. Kus I'm mostly just seeing a push on Moosy and a large opener that rambles about like 5 different people.
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On June 06 2016 06:52 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2016 06:49 Jealous wrote:On June 06 2016 06:47 Jealous wrote:On June 06 2016 06:40 Skynx wrote:On June 06 2016 00:00 QuickTwist wrote:
OK I reread the thread, here are my reads:
Skynx and Ticktock are far and away my strongest scum reads and I really want one of them to get lynched today. I would be OK with a scott lynch.
The Town AF people are:
Emperorchampion
blkcoffee
beentheredonethat
Tumblewood
These are the people I will not be voting all game. After posting this why would you vote Jealous? Scott was tied with you for a long time and you making an impossible case 5 hours befour lynch? If you're really VT your moves dont make any sense. To be quite honest, one possible reason is if he is in fact town, and thus suspects me of being mafia, so if he flips town he will further cast suspicion on me by voting for me. Someone already mentioned that if he flips town, they will think I am scum. This made me doubt he was scum for the first time in a while, because it makes sense as a townie move to me and would be guaranteed to have impact post-mortem whereas a vote for Scott would be seen as him trying to save his hide and might not even work considering how many people have been leaning scum on QT. The other possible reason is because according to him I "suck at this game." EBWOP Even though it made me doubt he was scum, it would be doubly foolish for me to change my vote, on top of the fact that I still see him as the #1 candidate. I understand your reasoning here but why are you answering for your #1 scumread?
Because I felt like it would be better coming from me than it would be coming from him.
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On June 06 2016 07:01 QuickTwist wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2016 06:39 Tictock wrote:On June 06 2016 05:42 QuickTwist wrote:On June 06 2016 05:34 Tictock wrote:On June 06 2016 05:15 QuickTwist wrote:On June 06 2016 05:14 Tictock wrote:
QT what was your reasoning for claiming VT now? I'm getting lynched, Duh. It's just... if you are VT and decided to open the game by claiming Blue (having a PR) then I can only assume you did so to create some discussion and in a very off chance draw mafia KP. If it looks like you are getting lynched then I'm not sure why you would change your plans there and claim VT instead. Like if I were in your shoes I'd go full fake claim to try and get the wagon off me and draw mafia KP tonight. Chance you get lynched anyways but hey you are only VT, and if you convince people you are blue you have a good chance at drawing KP. Sure you are setting yourself up to die one way or another, but if you wanted to play the long game you probably don't open with a fake claim to be a PR. So claiming VT now as an "hey don't lynch me I'm just town and not important" doesn't really make sense. It seems more like a play for survival especially since you literally said, On June 06 2016 05:05 QuickTwist wrote:On June 06 2016 05:01 Jealous wrote:On June 06 2016 04:45 QuickTwist wrote:On June 06 2016 04:21 Jealous wrote:
As far as the other posters, I'm glad that people have started pushing some ideas around as we approach the deadline. Here are some thoughts I have on the game so far:
1. I think that a lot of people in this thread are grasping at straws right now, which is understandable because there isn't much to go off of on Day 1. I don't see any utterly clear alliances here as of yet. It seems like a lot of A thinks B is scum who thinks C is scum who thinks D is scum who thinks A is scum, or something of the like.
2. Given the seemingly inconclusive finger-pointing patters so far, we will have to wait to see the results of the lynch and who voted for whom as our next indicator. As of right now, if my hypothesis is correct and QT is scum, then the people who voted alongside him without much early justification would be kushmountains and Tumblewood, who have not changed their vote despite the player being changed out and I found their arguments for removing sqrt to be weak in the first place (inactivity plynch 2 hours into the game, if I recall correctly? on top of that, other people were just as inactive). This is the most alliance-y thing I can point at so far, but it's too early for me to concretely say I feel that they are scum.
3. Following this line of logic, I don't feel that the votes/inclinations on QT are indicative of a scum alliance because most people have shown their own reasons for voting for QT, most of which are valid, or at least more valid in my eyes than a Scott lynch. Of course, if QT flips town it is possible that one or two scum bandwagoned in order to ensure that he wins over Scott in the last voting push, but it will be hard to tell who. It's simply too early to speculate in specific terms about who would be scum or not in this hypothetical scenario, so I will wait until I see all of the votes and their results.
4. I haven't gotten a strong read on anyone, which is probably because I'm newbie. So far my "could be scum" list is:
1. Kushmountains
2. Tumblewood
3. Superbia (weak read on this, don't have much certainty at all)
4. Fecalfeast (too absent, regardless of whatever excuses he may have)
and of course QT.
Everyone else, as far as I can tell, is townie. Scott can be thrown up there as well for his relative inactivity but I don't think it's fair to judge as quickly because he only learned he was in the game less than 24 hours ago. What if I said YOU could be scum if I turn out to be Town. Baseless you think? Honestly it is really freaking annoying you haven't re-evaluated your read on me and somehow everything I do is scummy to you. That is the definition of confirmation bias. So because you have chosen to no re-evaluate your read on me, even though my content has improved as the shit posting of day 1 decreases. can't help but think you are pushing an agenda. Claiming VT. ##Vote: Jealous Your only concrete argument as far as I recall is the one you just made, which is that I am pushing an agenda, so it's not entirely baseless. However, as objective as I can possibly be about this, I would have to say that your argument is weak. The majority of the town has read me as town, and for some that was a choice between scumreading me or you. I will concede that your posting has definitely improved since the first 24 hours. I see what you mean by confirmation bias now more clearly. I will justify by saying it is akin to how one approaches science: you formulate a hypothesis, run a test, gather some data, try to ascertain a conclusion. Then you present your article for peer review. So far peer review has corroborated my initial findings. The initial results will be put to the test after we see the flop. Although you claimed Blue PR since the first minutes of the game, which could've meant anything since you were shitposting a lot in that time, this is the first time you've claimed VT. MoosyDoosy also claimed VT, if I'm correct in assuming VT = Veteran, but his posting has been inconsistent too. I'm not saying this to make any sort of point, just doing stream of consciousness at the moment. I don't think it'd be wise of you to claim Blue PR if you actually were a Blue PR in the first minutes of the game, because scum would know that you are not scum, and thus when both the Day 1 lynch and the first scum kill are relative stabs in the dark, this seems like a poor strategy because it paints a target on your back. Of course, this could backfire and cause us to do scum's work for them, but I believe that there is no stronger case right now for anyone else and thus I will maintain my vote for you. OMG you are so wrong its not even funny. VT stands for vanilla townie. You are lynching the most worthless role there is in this game based on confirmation bias. People should take a really good look at you tomorrow. Which just says to me "Hey don't hurt me, I'm not important" Fantastic logic. One problem though. What happens when we lynch a different townie today and then people find out my claim is bogus so I get lynched anyways? I rather have 1 town die than two, its that simple. Why are you assuming we'd lynch a townie if we don't lynch you? Who is assuming anything here? I said what happens when, not if we don't lynch me we lynch a townie.
Well if you are town, and we move off you then 3/9 chance that who we move to is scum. Hopefully with all your flailing and reaction testing you have a pretty decent idea who is scum and can help move town onto a good lynch given your perspective.
I don't really see you doing that, you're read on Jealous is pretty obviously just OMGUS + Show Spoiler + or put more simply you are throwing the same style of confirmation bias scum read you are accusing Jealous of having on you back at him. Also you don't seem to be pushing it that hard. It's also hard to believe you have solid scumreads when your response to explaining why you scum read me was to quote a few of my posts with one liners.
So... yea I'm having a hard time seeing why we shouldn't just go ahead and lynch you QT.
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Something is up with my internet connection, shit has slowed down to a crawl.
Hopefully it's just temporary, if somethings wrong I might be missing EoD.
I'm partially tempted to stir the pot and suggest we shennanie here though, right now this only feels like a mafia lynch if the team is something like QT/Kush/ +1 (some afk or low impact player). Though tbh I kinda get the feeling the mafia team is pretty low impact this game anyways, though maybe kus we are just on the wrong track and they don't give a shit atm?
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