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NVM that is like 100 years after the "current" one.
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I'm out till after EOD, see you fine folks later!
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Vote Count: Day 1
QuickTwist (5): MoosyDoosy, Jealous, Skynx, Tictock, emperorchampion, scott31337
scott31337 (2): nnn_thekushmountains, QuickTwist, Tumblewood
nnn_thekushmountains (2): Superbia, Fecalfeast
MoosyDoosy (1): Superbia, beentheredonethat
Jealous (1): QuickTwist
Skynx (0): Fecalfeast
Superbia (0): QuickTwist
Not Voting (2): blkcoffee, MoosyDoosy
Currently QuickTwist will be executed. Day 1 ends in on 23:00 GMT (+00:00).
The voting thread is here.
Only votes there will be counted.
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Canada11355 Posts
Blkcoffee hasn't voted yet did he mention any scumreads? I can't remember what he posted
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On June 05 2016 01:51 blkcoffee wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2016 01:29 Skynx wrote:On June 05 2016 01:18 blkcoffee wrote:On June 05 2016 01:08 Skynx wrote:I'm back early On June 05 2016 00:34 blkcoffee wrote:
I read Jesus and at as two townies refusing to back down. I don't see much more to it .
Skynx and tumblewood both seem convinced that there has to be mafia in those two. Although skynx is sure it's qt.
I'm not convinced by either of the arguments and the case on qt by skynx seems to paint every qt action as scummy which I don't think is the correct approach.
If you read carefully, I've just called his posting pattern useless. He's not making any sensible pushes and his reads don't have any basis. Be he mafia or no, keeping him around does not benefit town. So what exactly is your read. If he flipped what would he be in your opinion? Depends on what happens next 24h before lynch. If he flips scum we can make cases on other peoples reaction on him. If he flips town what a shame we will have less spam for rest of the game. Sorry I wasn't clear. Right now what is your read on qt? I'm not really too bothered on your read of him after he flips.
Where are you? Lots of Jealous vs QT in last couple of pages so you can make up your mind.
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Same for moosy, please give your reads.
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Just got back from shopping for a suit, parking my vote here.
##Unvote
##Vote: QuickTwist
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On June 05 2016 22:26 Superbia wrote:
So tumble is town, tictock is town, and moosy is town. Fuck it. All of them town.
whattttt but i hardclaimed mafia a;sdkfjgh
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On June 06 2016 05:34 emperorchampion wrote:
I don't think too much has been said in the last few pages to sway my opinion on voting QT. What I'm thinking is that if QT is town, tumble is probably town and jealous is maf. And if QT if maf, tumble is probably maf, jealous is town.
kush is a bit of a toss up, his filter is pretty empty but maybe he has an excuse? The plynch seems a little off to me.
Why would QT being mafia make you think Tumble is mafia with him?
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On June 05 2016 22:26 Superbia wrote:
beentheredonethat is mafia or a PR. So that resolves itself.
town duh.
On June 05 2016 22:28 Superbia wrote:
emperorchampion and blkcoffee (I think it was blkcoffee) town too.
bikcoffee's pretty town from what i recall.
On June 05 2016 22:30 Superbia wrote:
The jealous/quicky 'debate' was unlikely to be TvT. And I'm tempted to call quicky the mafia, because of jealous reads actually progressed during the 'debate'. But I'm not completely convinced yet.
you might be town which makes me sad. 
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On June 06 2016 06:37 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2016 05:34 emperorchampion wrote:
I don't think too much has been said in the last few pages to sway my opinion on voting QT. What I'm thinking is that if QT is town, tumble is probably town and jealous is maf. And if QT if maf, tumble is probably maf, jealous is town.
kush is a bit of a toss up, his filter is pretty empty but maybe he has an excuse? The plynch seems a little off to me.
Why would QT being mafia make you think Tumble is mafia with him?
tumble pressured QuickTwist a ton but ended up saying a policy lynch was better. I thought it was a bit suspicious too but i think kush would be more likely Mafia than Tumble if QuickTwist flips Mafia.
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On June 05 2016 22:38 Superbia wrote:I feel like I can refine my reads but I'd rather be reading some manhwa. I'll be lurking and awaiting responses/people to talk. 
oh sht son which ones are you reading. :D do you use the webtoons site?
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On June 06 2016 05:42 QuickTwist wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2016 05:34 Tictock wrote:On June 06 2016 05:15 QuickTwist wrote:On June 06 2016 05:14 Tictock wrote:
QT what was your reasoning for claiming VT now? I'm getting lynched, Duh. It's just... if you are VT and decided to open the game by claiming Blue (having a PR) then I can only assume you did so to create some discussion and in a very off chance draw mafia KP. If it looks like you are getting lynched then I'm not sure why you would change your plans there and claim VT instead. Like if I were in your shoes I'd go full fake claim to try and get the wagon off me and draw mafia KP tonight. Chance you get lynched anyways but hey you are only VT, and if you convince people you are blue you have a good chance at drawing KP. Sure you are setting yourself up to die one way or another, but if you wanted to play the long game you probably don't open with a fake claim to be a PR. So claiming VT now as an "hey don't lynch me I'm just town and not important" doesn't really make sense. It seems more like a play for survival especially since you literally said, On June 06 2016 05:05 QuickTwist wrote:On June 06 2016 05:01 Jealous wrote:On June 06 2016 04:45 QuickTwist wrote:On June 06 2016 04:21 Jealous wrote:
As far as the other posters, I'm glad that people have started pushing some ideas around as we approach the deadline. Here are some thoughts I have on the game so far:
1. I think that a lot of people in this thread are grasping at straws right now, which is understandable because there isn't much to go off of on Day 1. I don't see any utterly clear alliances here as of yet. It seems like a lot of A thinks B is scum who thinks C is scum who thinks D is scum who thinks A is scum, or something of the like.
2. Given the seemingly inconclusive finger-pointing patters so far, we will have to wait to see the results of the lynch and who voted for whom as our next indicator. As of right now, if my hypothesis is correct and QT is scum, then the people who voted alongside him without much early justification would be kushmountains and Tumblewood, who have not changed their vote despite the player being changed out and I found their arguments for removing sqrt to be weak in the first place (inactivity plynch 2 hours into the game, if I recall correctly? on top of that, other people were just as inactive). This is the most alliance-y thing I can point at so far, but it's too early for me to concretely say I feel that they are scum.
3. Following this line of logic, I don't feel that the votes/inclinations on QT are indicative of a scum alliance because most people have shown their own reasons for voting for QT, most of which are valid, or at least more valid in my eyes than a Scott lynch. Of course, if QT flips town it is possible that one or two scum bandwagoned in order to ensure that he wins over Scott in the last voting push, but it will be hard to tell who. It's simply too early to speculate in specific terms about who would be scum or not in this hypothetical scenario, so I will wait until I see all of the votes and their results.
4. I haven't gotten a strong read on anyone, which is probably because I'm newbie. So far my "could be scum" list is:
1. Kushmountains
2. Tumblewood
3. Superbia (weak read on this, don't have much certainty at all)
4. Fecalfeast (too absent, regardless of whatever excuses he may have)
and of course QT.
Everyone else, as far as I can tell, is townie. Scott can be thrown up there as well for his relative inactivity but I don't think it's fair to judge as quickly because he only learned he was in the game less than 24 hours ago. What if I said YOU could be scum if I turn out to be Town. Baseless you think? Honestly it is really freaking annoying you haven't re-evaluated your read on me and somehow everything I do is scummy to you. That is the definition of confirmation bias. So because you have chosen to no re-evaluate your read on me, even though my content has improved as the shit posting of day 1 decreases. can't help but think you are pushing an agenda. Claiming VT. ##Vote: Jealous Your only concrete argument as far as I recall is the one you just made, which is that I am pushing an agenda, so it's not entirely baseless. However, as objective as I can possibly be about this, I would have to say that your argument is weak. The majority of the town has read me as town, and for some that was a choice between scumreading me or you. I will concede that your posting has definitely improved since the first 24 hours. I see what you mean by confirmation bias now more clearly. I will justify by saying it is akin to how one approaches science: you formulate a hypothesis, run a test, gather some data, try to ascertain a conclusion. Then you present your article for peer review. So far peer review has corroborated my initial findings. The initial results will be put to the test after we see the flop. Although you claimed Blue PR since the first minutes of the game, which could've meant anything since you were shitposting a lot in that time, this is the first time you've claimed VT. MoosyDoosy also claimed VT, if I'm correct in assuming VT = Veteran, but his posting has been inconsistent too. I'm not saying this to make any sort of point, just doing stream of consciousness at the moment. I don't think it'd be wise of you to claim Blue PR if you actually were a Blue PR in the first minutes of the game, because scum would know that you are not scum, and thus when both the Day 1 lynch and the first scum kill are relative stabs in the dark, this seems like a poor strategy because it paints a target on your back. Of course, this could backfire and cause us to do scum's work for them, but I believe that there is no stronger case right now for anyone else and thus I will maintain my vote for you. OMG you are so wrong its not even funny. VT stands for vanilla townie. You are lynching the most worthless role there is in this game based on confirmation bias. People should take a really good look at you tomorrow. Which just says to me "Hey don't hurt me, I'm not important" Fantastic logic. One problem though. What happens when we lynch a different townie today and then people find out my claim is bogus so I get lynched anyways? I rather have 1 town die than two, its that simple.
Why are you assuming we'd lynch a townie if we don't lynch you?
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On June 06 2016 00:00 QuickTwist wrote:
OK I reread the thread, here are my reads:
Skynx and Ticktock are far and away my strongest scum reads and I really want one of them to get lynched today. I would be OK with a scott lynch.
The Town AF people are:
Emperorchampion
blkcoffee
beentheredonethat
Tumblewood
These are the people I will not be voting all game.
After posting this why would you vote Jealous? Scott was tied with you for a long time and you making an impossible case 5 hours befour lynch?
If you're really VT your moves dont make any sense.
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On June 06 2016 00:56 QuickTwist wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2016 15:00 Tictock wrote:On June 04 2016 08:16 MoosyDoosy wrote:On June 04 2016 05:19 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:3) MooooooosyDooooosy - if he looks scummy, he's town. if he looks townie, he's scum. lmaoo this is actually pretty tru Unusual use of emoticons from Moosy, so probs mafia. 2 down 1 to go. Like wtf is this shit?
that sir is what we call a good read.
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Canada11355 Posts
On June 06 2016 06:40 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2016 00:00 QuickTwist wrote:
OK I reread the thread, here are my reads:
Skynx and Ticktock are far and away my strongest scum reads and I really want one of them to get lynched today. I would be OK with a scott lynch.
The Town AF people are:
Emperorchampion
blkcoffee
beentheredonethat
Tumblewood
These are the people I will not be voting all game. After posting this why would you vote Jealous? Scott was tied with you for a long time and you making an impossible case 5 hours befour lynch? If you're really VT your moves dont make any sense.
Good find, I would also like to see te answer to this
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On June 06 2016 01:02 QuickTwist wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2016 00:34 Tictock wrote:
Ok first thing I feel like talking about, reading based on activity.
Generally I find this to be an unreliable metric. There is some correlation, but it depends pretty heavily on the player in question. Scum can be tryhard and post a ton and town can loose interest or get busy and post very little.
My point?
Plynches based on activity tend to be coin flippy and giving someone a townread kus they are active and posting is weak at best.
It's generally better practice to try and look at the reasons and modivations behind when and why people are posting rather than try and use filter length as a metic. There are some exceptions such as scum-burn out, but even then activity alone is usually not your only indicator.
So the reads I've seen so far like "This dude made a hello post then left! Lynch the scum!" or "Well he's posting a lot so I think he's town" are pretty piss poor imo. IIoA
his post is actually really good. I like giving policy lynches some space before going after them. D1 should be spent lynching someone that we think has a high chance of flipping scum. If we don't get scum then going for policy lynches is fine. But D1 is so dynamic that using it to go for policy lynches is suuuuch a waste.
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On June 06 2016 06:38 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2016 06:37 Tictock wrote:On June 06 2016 05:34 emperorchampion wrote:
I don't think too much has been said in the last few pages to sway my opinion on voting QT. What I'm thinking is that if QT is town, tumble is probably town and jealous is maf. And if QT if maf, tumble is probably maf, jealous is town.
kush is a bit of a toss up, his filter is pretty empty but maybe he has an excuse? The plynch seems a little off to me.
Why would QT being mafia make you think Tumble is mafia with him? tumble pressured QuickTwist a ton but ended up saying a policy lynch was better. I thought it was a bit suspicious too but i think kush would be more likely Mafia than Tumble if QuickTwist flips Mafia.
Yea ok, I can see that.
And yea Kush might be a fine lynch as well.
Honestly though I'm just not sure if I really care who gets lynched between QT, Kush, Skynx, and emp atm.
Lots of people not really giving out good town vibes is making this a bit of a toss up lynch.
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On June 06 2016 06:43 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2016 06:38 MoosyDoosy wrote:On June 06 2016 06:37 Tictock wrote:On June 06 2016 05:34 emperorchampion wrote:
I don't think too much has been said in the last few pages to sway my opinion on voting QT. What I'm thinking is that if QT is town, tumble is probably town and jealous is maf. And if QT if maf, tumble is probably maf, jealous is town.
kush is a bit of a toss up, his filter is pretty empty but maybe he has an excuse? The plynch seems a little off to me.
Why would QT being mafia make you think Tumble is mafia with him? tumble pressured QuickTwist a ton but ended up saying a policy lynch was better. I thought it was a bit suspicious too but i think kush would be more likely Mafia than Tumble if QuickTwist flips Mafia. Yea ok, I can see that. And yea Kush might be a fine lynch as well. Honestly though I'm just not sure if I really care who gets lynched between QT, Kush, Skynx, and emp atm. Lots of people not really giving out good town vibes is making this a bit of a toss up lynch.
i'm giving out all the fluffy wovey dovey town vibes. :D which is strange for me. O.O does that mean I'm scum? o/
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