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On June 04 2016 09:44 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2016 09:43 QuickTwist wrote:On June 04 2016 09:39 Jealous wrote:On June 04 2016 09:35 QuickTwist wrote:On June 04 2016 09:33 Jealous wrote:On June 04 2016 09:31 QuickTwist wrote:On June 04 2016 09:29 Jealous wrote:On June 04 2016 09:22 QuickTwist wrote:On June 04 2016 09:14 blkcoffee wrote:On June 04 2016 08:59 Jealous wrote:
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That's fine, they are there for anyone who is curious, and were presented solely as some substantive evidence against Tumblewood's flimsy read.
What I think of Quick town-reading me so early is that he is that he is potentially trying to make allies among people he would know are confirmed townie, because he is mafia. Or, in retrospect, as my first post in response to him and Superbia was more or less stating that I found their behavior suspicious, he aims to pass that suspicion onto me by making it seem like I am in cohorts with them, or something. The fact that he is a newcomer to TL Mafia may have something to do with the fact that he is playing, in my opinion, fast and dangerous. This seems rather too in-depth this early on. I think if quicktwist gave an explanation For the town read we could analyse it and see how it holds up. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/8R2mw6O.jpg) Another dodgy response here. Leaning scum intensifies. you're going to have to explain how that makes me scum without saying the word "vibes". Instead of substantiating your claims you post image macros that effectively close the topic for further analysis and discussion, something that would be key for scum to do in order to protect themselves from further inspection. yeah, and really really super obvious as well. Knowing nothing about you or your play style and only judging from the content that you present, it's logical to use Ockham's razor and go with the most obvious explanation. You continue to dodge post after post, question after question, and only cast doubt upon the analysis of others by trying to debase them without any substance whatsoever. You know what I think? I think you should hold off your judgement until you DO know my playstyle. Or maybe you can answer some questions and show your play style through analysis and not through mindless macros and unsubstantiated claims.
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And I'll just say this right now. I am not a Vet.
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Gunna reread the thread naow.
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On June 04 2016 08:25 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2016 08:21 Superbia wrote:
Jealous what alignment did you hope to get? My expectations were mixed in that I simultaneously did not want to be important because I would then be under a lot of pressure to perform my duties up to a certain standard, but I also did want to have some sway in the outcome of the game beyond just words and analysis. I am satisfied with my role. How about you?
Hey, cool, we can both be PR and can both win as Town. Hurray!
Welp, game over guys, Town won.
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On June 04 2016 09:54 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2016 09:31 Jealous wrote:On June 04 2016 09:29 QuickTwist wrote:On June 04 2016 09:27 Jealous wrote:On June 04 2016 09:17 Tumblewood wrote:mmmph jealous I read your filters from the other two games you've played. + Show Spoiler [please see diagram] +the notable difference I found was that you tended more towards crazy theories and casting suspicion as mafia than as town. One of the advantages or disadvantages of being a non-native speaker is that I've learned many words that are more accurate to my intention but are unwieldy for native speakers. Another contributing factor is that when my fingers are on the keyboard, I enter some parallel mindset of "must make this Ivy League - level" because of my job. As a mafia in that game, after re-reading my own posts, I've come to the conclusion that I fucked up and tried to be too vehement in my defense and my counter-arguments were all stretches of the imagination. It was the text translation of desperation once I became suspected. +1 Not sure what you're +1 on, the plight of a foreign English speaker who teaches and revises English writing or that of a Mafia who over-extends under pressure?? May I ask for a textual response to this or am I just begging for another meme?
Sure. I'll explain it cuz you lack subtlety. The guy in question is complete Null right now and its not a good look for you to be acting like you have a scum read on him already. He has done nothing alignment indicative and as such is the type of player who is going to be caught trying to defend his scummates or will crumble because his team is in a bad way if he is scum. That's why your pressure on him right now doesn't mean shit.
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On June 04 2016 09:04 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2016 08:59 QuickTwist wrote:On June 04 2016 08:53 blkcoffee wrote:If it's alright with you I'm not going to read any of those games. I'm curious what you think of quick town reading you so early and his subsequent town reads. For quicktwist. Can you explain how you came to a serious vote on super. What changed? I explained this partially but I will explain to those who may not understand the intricacies of this. Sup is trying to look like he is town. So either he is playing some really fantastic head games with people and he wants people to vote him to see who picks up on his scummy behavior and votes Obvscum OR he is just really bad Scum who is trying to look like they are scum hunting in the most obvious straightforward way possible. I don't think he is so dumb that he could legit be Town trying to scum hunt, but at this point I can't rule that out I guess. have you heard of "WIFOM"? it stands for "wine in front of me", in reference to some scene from The Princess Bride. this is what it means and WIFOM is about the most I'd say about superbia's early-early-early-D1 play.
Just picking this up now. WYFOME? What is that?
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On June 04 2016 10:11 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2016 10:05 QuickTwist wrote:On June 04 2016 09:54 Jealous wrote:On June 04 2016 09:31 Jealous wrote:On June 04 2016 09:29 QuickTwist wrote:On June 04 2016 09:27 Jealous wrote:On June 04 2016 09:17 Tumblewood wrote:mmmph jealous I read your filters from the other two games you've played. + Show Spoiler [please see diagram] +the notable difference I found was that you tended more towards crazy theories and casting suspicion as mafia than as town. One of the advantages or disadvantages of being a non-native speaker is that I've learned many words that are more accurate to my intention but are unwieldy for native speakers. Another contributing factor is that when my fingers are on the keyboard, I enter some parallel mindset of "must make this Ivy League - level" because of my job. As a mafia in that game, after re-reading my own posts, I've come to the conclusion that I fucked up and tried to be too vehement in my defense and my counter-arguments were all stretches of the imagination. It was the text translation of desperation once I became suspected. +1 Not sure what you're +1 on, the plight of a foreign English speaker who teaches and revises English writing or that of a Mafia who over-extends under pressure?? May I ask for a textual response to this or am I just begging for another meme? Sure. I'll explain it cuz you lack subtlety. The guy in question is complete Null right now and its not a good look for you to be acting like you have a scum read on him already. He has done nothing alignment indicative and as such is the type of player who is going to be caught trying to defend his scummates or will crumble because his team is in a bad way if he is scum. That's why your pressure on him right now doesn't mean shit. I fail to see the connection between your reasoning and the question; what did you +1 on?
That he is an educated person who knows his english and you assumed he was just a tryhard. Sorry I thought you were looking for a game related response.
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On June 04 2016 08:44 Skynx wrote:
So, Incognito guide tells me town likes clarity and mafia likes contentless posts.
Jealous sounds towny to me. QT also keep things clean.
Super n moosy are kinda chatting shit so I assume we can read more as game progresses.
Super is most scummy so far.
IDK what you mean by keeps things clean. I'm a messy person actually so I don't know where this is coming from.
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On June 04 2016 10:23 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2016 10:21 QuickTwist wrote:On June 04 2016 10:11 Jealous wrote:On June 04 2016 10:05 QuickTwist wrote:On June 04 2016 09:54 Jealous wrote:On June 04 2016 09:31 Jealous wrote:On June 04 2016 09:29 QuickTwist wrote:On June 04 2016 09:27 Jealous wrote:On June 04 2016 09:17 Tumblewood wrote:mmmph jealous I read your filters from the other two games you've played. + Show Spoiler [please see diagram] +the notable difference I found was that you tended more towards crazy theories and casting suspicion as mafia than as town. One of the advantages or disadvantages of being a non-native speaker is that I've learned many words that are more accurate to my intention but are unwieldy for native speakers. Another contributing factor is that when my fingers are on the keyboard, I enter some parallel mindset of "must make this Ivy League - level" because of my job. As a mafia in that game, after re-reading my own posts, I've come to the conclusion that I fucked up and tried to be too vehement in my defense and my counter-arguments were all stretches of the imagination. It was the text translation of desperation once I became suspected. +1 Not sure what you're +1 on, the plight of a foreign English speaker who teaches and revises English writing or that of a Mafia who over-extends under pressure?? May I ask for a textual response to this or am I just begging for another meme? Sure. I'll explain it cuz you lack subtlety. The guy in question is complete Null right now and its not a good look for you to be acting like you have a scum read on him already. He has done nothing alignment indicative and as such is the type of player who is going to be caught trying to defend his scummates or will crumble because his team is in a bad way if he is scum. That's why your pressure on him right now doesn't mean shit. I fail to see the connection between your reasoning and the question; what did you +1 on? That he is an educated person who knows his english and you assumed he was just a tryhard. Sorry I thought you were looking for a game related response. Er, I think you may want to re-look at the post sequence. I believe you have the name to message relationship mixed up.
Good, glad you caught that.
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On June 04 2016 09:02 blkcoffee wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2016 08:59 QuickTwist wrote:On June 04 2016 08:53 blkcoffee wrote:If it's alright with you I'm not going to read any of those games. I'm curious what you think of quick town reading you so early and his subsequent town reads. For quicktwist. Can you explain how you came to a serious vote on super. What changed? I explained this partially but I will explain to those who may not understand the intricacies of this. Sup is trying to look like he is town. So either he is playing some really fantastic head games with people and he wants people to vote him to see who picks up on his scummy behavior and votes Obvscum OR he is just really bad Scum who is trying to look like they are scum hunting in the most obvious straightforward way possible. I don't think he is so dumb that he could legit be Town trying to scum hunt, but at this point I can't rule that out I guess. Do you think that town should try to look townie and eliminate themselves from the lynch pool.
No.
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On June 04 2016 10:29 Superbia wrote:
Quicktwist how would you rate me as a player out of 10?
7.583163895
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On June 04 2016 10:47 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2016 10:29 QuickTwist wrote:On June 04 2016 09:02 blkcoffee wrote:On June 04 2016 08:59 QuickTwist wrote:On June 04 2016 08:53 blkcoffee wrote:If it's alright with you I'm not going to read any of those games. I'm curious what you think of quick town reading you so early and his subsequent town reads. For quicktwist. Can you explain how you came to a serious vote on super. What changed? I explained this partially but I will explain to those who may not understand the intricacies of this. Sup is trying to look like he is town. So either he is playing some really fantastic head games with people and he wants people to vote him to see who picks up on his scummy behavior and votes Obvscum OR he is just really bad Scum who is trying to look like they are scum hunting in the most obvious straightforward way possible. I don't think he is so dumb that he could legit be Town trying to scum hunt, but at this point I can't rule that out I guess. Do you think that town should try to look townie and eliminate themselves from the lynch pool. No. what but why it's in town's best interest to look townie (except to dodge nightkills) so town doesn't waste a lynch on them
Town should scum hunt without worrying about what they look like.
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On June 04 2016 10:54 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2016 10:49 QuickTwist wrote:On June 04 2016 10:47 Tumblewood wrote:On June 04 2016 10:29 QuickTwist wrote:On June 04 2016 09:02 blkcoffee wrote:On June 04 2016 08:59 QuickTwist wrote:On June 04 2016 08:53 blkcoffee wrote:If it's alright with you I'm not going to read any of those games. I'm curious what you think of quick town reading you so early and his subsequent town reads. For quicktwist. Can you explain how you came to a serious vote on super. What changed? I explained this partially but I will explain to those who may not understand the intricacies of this. Sup is trying to look like he is town. So either he is playing some really fantastic head games with people and he wants people to vote him to see who picks up on his scummy behavior and votes Obvscum OR he is just really bad Scum who is trying to look like they are scum hunting in the most obvious straightforward way possible. I don't think he is so dumb that he could legit be Town trying to scum hunt, but at this point I can't rule that out I guess. Do you think that town should try to look townie and eliminate themselves from the lynch pool. No. what but why it's in town's best interest to look townie (except to dodge nightkills) so town doesn't waste a lynch on them Town should scum hunt without worrying about what they look like. finding scum is just one of the three pillars of being townie 1) find scum 2) establish your towniness 3) form a town circle with other townies
Its always door number 2.
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##Vote: Tumblewood
I shouldn't be getting this much town cred already should I?
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I should try to be dismissive as Scum. Yes next game I will try that.
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OK, so here's why I think Jealous is Town.
He's smart. He knows being overly confident in his reads helps town. He has been pushing scummy behavior namely, me. He is paying really close attention to the game and what people say and jumping on anything the looks like it could get traction. He's pushing his agenda and trying to be very correct.
For that reason I think he would make a really bad lynch today.
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On June 04 2016 11:15 Jealous wrote:You say one thing but do another, despite the fact that finding the discrepancy is stupidly easy. Either you're scum or just... How can I put this nicely... A very individualistic and selfish townie. Either way, I think the game would be better off without you.
I agree! The game would totally be better without me. Why change things up amirite?
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On June 04 2016 11:27 Tumblewood wrote:
wait what
qt why did you vote ("vote") me in this thread and then vote sqrt in the voting thread? what do you mean by that?
Just seeing if you were paying attention.
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On June 04 2016 11:28 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2016 11:25 Tumblewood wrote:On June 04 2016 11:00 QuickTwist wrote:
##Vote: Tumblewood
I shouldn't be getting this much town cred already should I? said the player who gave out four townreads in the first half hour of the game I think you should be getting towncred because the way you are acting is totally unlike how newbie scums tend to act You have to remember that he is not new to Mafia, just new to TL Mafia. That being said, knowing that he is an experienced player only throws more confusion into the mix when considering his posts and actions. Confusion is not good for a town win, in my opinion. Show nested quote +On June 04 2016 11:25 QuickTwist wrote:On June 04 2016 11:15 Jealous wrote:On June 04 2016 11:11 QuickTwist wrote:Problem? You say one thing but do another, despite the fact that finding the discrepancy is stupidly easy. Either you're scum or just... How can I put this nicely... A very individualistic and selfish townie. Either way, I think the game would be better off without you. I agree! The game would totally be better without me. Why change things up amirite? This makes no sense.
I make reads by being extreeeeemmmeeeee!
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