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MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 03 2016 23:35 GMT
#359
On June 04 2016 08:33 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 08:31 Superbia wrote:
Stop using thesaurus jesus.

I assume that's directed at me. Does my verbosity intimidate you? It shouldn't, because I only aim to benefit the town, and my analysis of words and their use (as part of my job) should of benefit here.

should be of benefit here*

: ]
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MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 04 2016 14:22 GMT
#609
On June 04 2016 08:58 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
dear god why are there 20 pages already

THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING TO MYSELF RIGHT NOW
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 04 2016 14:25 GMT
#610
On June 04 2016 09:11 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 09:10 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 04 2016 09:08 Superbia wrote:
Perhaps. What about your other town reads?


I thought you were going to go play D&D. What happened to that? Did you get high or something?

Well, that went 0-100 pretty quickly and for no reason as far as I can tell. Dodgy answer, trying to cast shade on another...

THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING BUT YOU'RE CASTING JUST AS MUCH SHADE IF NOT MORE THAN THEM DOOOOOOD
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 04 2016 14:27 GMT
#611
On June 04 2016 09:23 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 09:14 blkcoffee wrote:
On June 04 2016 08:59 Jealous wrote:
On June 04 2016 08:53 blkcoffee wrote:
On June 04 2016 08:49 Jealous wrote:
On June 04 2016 08:46 Tumblewood wrote:
tryhard newbie + Show Spoiler [*cough cough*] +
jealous
= scum newbie most of the time

With no clues to work off of and only the content of a few early posters to analyze, I don't think my behavior is suspicious in the slightest and you're trying to cast shade on someone you may know is townie.

I played my last two TL Mafia games in 2008, in which I was townie and then mafia, in both of which I tried pretty hard by my reckoning. Here are the summaries for full disclosure since they were on a different account:

Townie: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/67925-tl-mafia-2-gg?user=fanatacist
Mafia: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/80975-tl-mafia-3-night-5?user=fanatacist


If it's alright with you I'm not going to read any of those games.

I'm curious what you think of quick town reading you so early and his subsequent town reads.

For quicktwist. Can you explain how you came to a serious vote on super. What changed?

That's fine, they are there for anyone who is curious, and were presented solely as some substantive evidence against Tumblewood's flimsy read.

What I think of Quick town-reading me so early is that he is that he is potentially trying to make allies among people he would know are confirmed townie, because he is mafia. Or, in retrospect, as my first post in response to him and Superbia was more or less stating that I found their behavior suspicious, he aims to pass that suspicion onto me by making it seem like I am in cohorts with them, or something. The fact that he is a newcomer to TL Mafia may have something to do with the fact that he is playing, in my opinion, fast and dangerous.


This seems rather too in-depth this early on. I think if quicktwist gave an explanation For the town read we could analyse it and see how it holds up.

I agree that I may be making mountains out of molehills, and you are also right in saying that we need to know why the molehill was constructed in the first place. However, with no pertinent explanation available, it is my inclination to lean scum on QuickTwist.

lol wat. you're playing exactly the same as QuickTwist but you want to kill him. NICE
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 04 2016 14:30 GMT
#612
On June 04 2016 09:41 Tumblewood wrote:
ah goddammit I'm going after the low-hanging fruit
I'll be back when kush or someone is in the thread so I can be productive

i'm here
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 04 2016 14:30 GMT
#613
On June 04 2016 09:49 QuickTwist wrote:
And I'll just say this right now. I am not a Vet.

I know because I'm the vet.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 04 2016 14:32 GMT
#614
On June 04 2016 10:27 Superbia wrote:
I also feel like a bunch of people are talking out of their ass and I'm not sure if it's dumb-plan-town or mafia.

exactly this but i"m sorry superbia bb you're mafia.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 04 2016 14:34 GMT
#615
On June 04 2016 11:29 QuickTwist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 11:27 Tumblewood wrote:
wait what
qt why did you vote ("vote") me in this thread and then vote sqrt in the voting thread? what do you mean by that?


Just seeing if you were paying attention.

no lAd, this just doesn't make any sense.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 04 2016 14:38 GMT
#616
On June 04 2016 12:01 Tumblewood wrote:
going to take a break until I inevitably get bored and come back
playing this game is just not fun for me right now because the only two active players are on (what I see as) the wrong track and set in it. feels like I'm talking to a brick wall.

Talk to me buddy. Does Quicktwist and Jealous feel like two townies caught in an argument against each other and refusing to back down due to pride or is one of them Mafia? For some reason I keep getting hints of the second even though it really looks like the first.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 04 2016 14:41 GMT
#617
On June 04 2016 16:11 Tumblewood wrote:
holy shit I checked the thread one last time before going to bed
Jealous and QT... ur bad, kidz
what you see from TT is pretty normal behavior for early day 1, and you're so eager to jump onto people for easy reasons ("said something that wasn't productive", "off topic", "could be scum doing X stupid plan") and also don't recognize a joke when it's right in your face.
I'm sitting somewhere between 'scum' and 'scrub' for both of you... it seems like one of QT and Jealous surely has to be mafia because they're both acting unnecessarily tryhard, but if they're both scum together then it must be the play of the century to keep a stupid conversation alive so long between two scumbuddies.

nvm you just kind of answered my question with this. xdddd So is this still your thoughts right now?
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 04 2016 14:43 GMT
#618
On June 04 2016 16:18 Tumblewood wrote:
ok yeah as I see it one of QT and Jealous has to be scum. they're both acting independently scummy (eager to read anything as scummy, tryhard tone, making mountains of molehills). I don't believe that they could both be town, although if they were I will mock D1 relentlessly in postgame. I also believe that they could not keep up this stupid bickering for so long as partners. I'm leaning toward QT at this point for refuting everything Jealous says and then townreading him for it (pretty shallow townread IMO, there's more to the game than just how much you write that's semi-productive). Jealous maybe, but I think my dislike of his tone biases my judgment. 6/10 would lynch QT D1 and if he flips town lynch Jealous D2
or we could plynch sqrt and let their alignments become more apparent over time.

ok you just answered my question. Sometimes i think I should just read the thread before posting. Interesting thoughts. :3
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 04 2016 14:44 GMT
#619
On June 04 2016 17:16 Tictock wrote:
Caught up now, still gunna hold off giving reads till later though. + Show Spoiler [Boring Ass reasons why] +
partially kus I've changed my mind about a couple of people, and partially kus I prefer to have seen posts from everyone


I'll be at a party a large chunk of the evening tomorrow, but should be around plenty going into EoD.

comeee baaaaaack
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 04 2016 14:45 GMT
#620
On June 04 2016 19:05 beentheredonethat wrote:
Hello guys, I caught up. There's a lot already to read into. Based on continuous activity, "careless/fearless" pushes and cool refinements of thoughts, I think Superbia is town and we should regard his thoughts a lot. Almost every single page we currently have contains a post of him, and while initial posts might be banter, I can say that from my experience that starting a game is always kind of rough to do.

Also, I like QuickTwist, also for the great activity. The fact that he votes Tumblewood because he gives him a townread ("I shouldn't be getting this much town cred already should I?") makes me think he's town.

However that brought me to filtering Tumblewood. The first two pages of his filter are useless. No pushes, no reads, nothing even remotely readable, which, for me, is mafia indicative. Well, page 3 is much better, and I like this line of thoughts:

Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 11:31 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 04 2016 11:24 QuickTwist wrote:
OK, so here's why I think Jealous is Town.

He's smart. He knows being overly confident in his reads helps town. He has been pushing scummy behavior namely, me. He is paying really close attention to the game and what people say and jumping on anything the looks like it could get traction. He's pushing his agenda and trying to be very correct.

For that reason I think he would make a really bad lynch today.

his scumreads are founded in a mountain of evidence, but that evidence does not make anyone scum. I don't see how you can refute his reads as misled but then call them good and townie all of a sudden.
townread suspended


So I'd also note Tumblewood as town. Besides the players that have not posted yet or do have a very low post activity, my strongest mafia read as of now is MoosyDoosy. His posts do not make sense, they feel rushed, "activity for the sake of activity" to appear townie, and they're partially total offtopic (see the post about CRISPR). Voting himself, while even against the rules afaik, and spitting out a big post:

+ Show Spoiler +
On June 04 2016 08:16 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 05:19 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:I think this is going to be a really slow game unless the newbs talk a lot. None of the vets are big talkers.

BOI I GOT THIS

Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 05:19 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:3) MooooooosyDooooosy - if he looks scummy, he's town. if he looks townie, he's scum.

lmaoo this is actually pretty tru

Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 06:44 QuickTwist wrote:
GLHF. I sincerely hope I get my ass handed to me. DarthPunk told me the competition here is good. If I am an above average players here, that is going to not reflect very well on this community. You have been warned. I am not very good at this game.

that won't happen w/ this player list. The vets will be too busy squabbling over each other about how someone used emoticons or something while Mafia will get away. :D Basically: competition =/= good at game. It just means we shit on each other a lot more.

Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 08:03 Superbia wrote:
First person to hard claim mafia gets a free d1 read&pass.

I'd like to hard claim Mafia mmmmmmmmm

Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 08:05 QuickTwist wrote:
Hi, I have a PR and I think I should be the first NK.

veteran or mafia

Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 08:07 QuickTwist wrote:
I;m getting a town read on Sup... for really no reason.

veteran or mafia or mafia

Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 08:10 QuickTwist wrote:
I will not be claiming mafia, sorry do much disappoint.

veteran or mafia or mafia or mafia



He is just confusing. There is no straight pattern, and I cannot see a goal that he tries to follow. All he does is stirring up chaos, then disappearing. I think he is scum.

##vote MoosyDoosy



Now THIS is a quality post. 10/10 nice job.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 04 2016 14:46 GMT
#621
On June 04 2016 20:03 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 19:05 beentheredonethat wrote:
Hello guys, I caught up. There's a lot already to read into. Based on continuous activity, "careless/fearless" pushes and cool refinements of thoughts, I think Superbia is town and we should regard his thoughts a lot. Almost every single page we currently have contains a post of him, and while initial posts might be banter, I can say that from my experience that starting a game is always kind of rough to do.

Also, I like QuickTwist, also for the great activity. The fact that he votes Tumblewood because he gives him a townread ("I shouldn't be getting this much town cred already should I?") makes me think he's town.

However that brought me to filtering Tumblewood. The first two pages of his filter are useless. No pushes, no reads, nothing even remotely readable, which, for me, is mafia indicative. Well, page 3 is much better, and I like this line of thoughts:

On June 04 2016 11:31 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 04 2016 11:24 QuickTwist wrote:
OK, so here's why I think Jealous is Town.

He's smart. He knows being overly confident in his reads helps town. He has been pushing scummy behavior namely, me. He is paying really close attention to the game and what people say and jumping on anything the looks like it could get traction. He's pushing his agenda and trying to be very correct.

For that reason I think he would make a really bad lynch today.

his scumreads are founded in a mountain of evidence, but that evidence does not make anyone scum. I don't see how you can refute his reads as misled but then call them good and townie all of a sudden.
townread suspended


So I'd also note Tumblewood as town. Besides the players that have not posted yet or do have a very low post activity, my strongest mafia read as of now is MoosyDoosy. His posts do not make sense, they feel rushed, "activity for the sake of activity" to appear townie, and they're partially total offtopic (see the post about CRISPR). Voting himself, while even against the rules afaik, and spitting out a big post:

+ Show Spoiler +
On June 04 2016 08:16 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 05:19 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:I think this is going to be a really slow game unless the newbs talk a lot. None of the vets are big talkers.

BOI I GOT THIS

Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 05:19 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:3) MooooooosyDooooosy - if he looks scummy, he's town. if he looks townie, he's scum.

lmaoo this is actually pretty tru

Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 06:44 QuickTwist wrote:
GLHF. I sincerely hope I get my ass handed to me. DarthPunk told me the competition here is good. If I am an above average players here, that is going to not reflect very well on this community. You have been warned. I am not very good at this game.

that won't happen w/ this player list. The vets will be too busy squabbling over each other about how someone used emoticons or something while Mafia will get away. :D Basically: competition =/= good at game. It just means we shit on each other a lot more.

Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 08:03 Superbia wrote:
First person to hard claim mafia gets a free d1 read&pass.

I'd like to hard claim Mafia mmmmmmmmm

Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 08:05 QuickTwist wrote:
Hi, I have a PR and I think I should be the first NK.

veteran or mafia

Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 08:07 QuickTwist wrote:
I;m getting a town read on Sup... for really no reason.

veteran or mafia or mafia

Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 08:10 QuickTwist wrote:
I will not be claiming mafia, sorry do much disappoint.

veteran or mafia or mafia or mafia



He is just confusing. There is no straight pattern, and I cannot see a goal that he tries to follow. All he does is stirring up chaos, then disappearing. I think he is scum.

##vote MoosyDoosy




What if I were to tell you that moosy always plays like that as town?

hush child. xd
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MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 04 2016 14:49 GMT
#622
Nice! :D I'm done catching up.

On June 04 2016 20:29 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
No one is going to even find that post. It's a needle in a haystack.

For me it's irrelevant because we aren't lynching either of you today.

Can I convince you otherwise or are you looking at someone else right now?

And now that I've fulfilled my activity requirement with useless posts to try and make me look town I'm gonna take my leave.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 04 2016 17:59 GMT
#659
On June 05 2016 01:19 Tumblewood wrote:
BTDT (that's what I'll be calling beentheredonethat for the rest of the game) is probably town because newbie scums tend to have a hard time making a coherent, decent case.

i agree! that was the exact same read that i had :D
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MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 04 2016 18:02 GMT
#662
On June 05 2016 01:25 Tumblewood wrote:
Upon further review, QT v. Jealous might be a town v. town argument, but I'm hesitant because it's not quite a shitfight-- QT is townreading jealous while bickering with him, although I do get the sense that jealous believes and cares about what he says.
BTW, those arguments on the basis of "tryhard" are because tryhard has an inherent component of insecurity, which is a big scumtell in newbies.

yes! the worst part of the argument for me is that QuickTwist is not upfront about his explanations. He answers questions in a roundabout manner and gets frustrated when people don't understand him halfway through it. I'm also fairly certain a couple of his explanations were lies such as the tests he seems to keep putting up for Jealous and Tumblewood in making sure they're "paying attention". It could be a sign of a townie very uncomfortable under pressure and lashing out about it, and I've certainly done it before but it's still very bothering for me.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 04 2016 18:06 GMT
#663
It's quite sad but I'm not quite able to emulate my town style as scum. The pressure makes me crack and I become more serious. But then again, I'm semi-playing the game so that's a sign I might be scum after all! :DDD
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MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 04 2016 18:17 GMT
#668
veterans are no fun. you lot should be killing me.
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MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 04 2016 18:18 GMT
#669
There was this one guy who said Quicktwist was town based on activity. What about killing him?
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