• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 16:31
CEST 22:31
KST 05:31
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun10[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors16[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists21[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers25Maestros of the Game 2 announced92026 GSL Tour plans announced15Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid25
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool MaNa leaves Team Liquid Maestros of the Game 2 announced
Tourneys
GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) SC2 INu's Battles#15 <BO.9 2Matches> WardiTV Spring Cup RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event SEL Masters #6 - Solar vs Classic (SC: Evo)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 523 Firewall Mutation # 522 Flip My Base Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss
Brood War
General
Pros React To: Leta vs Tulbo (ASL S21, Ro.8) ASL21 General Discussion [TOOL] Starcraft Chat Translator JaeDong's ASL S21 Ro16 Post-Review Missed out on ASL tickets - what are my options?
Tourneys
ASL Season 21 LIVESTREAM with English Commentary [ASL21] Ro8 Day 2 [ASL21] Ro8 Day 1 [ASL21] Ro16 Group D
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Daigo vs Menard Best of 10 Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Diablo IV
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread 3D technology/software discussion Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Sexual Health Of Gamers
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2055 users

[W][M] Newbie Mafia XXI - Page 15

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 13 14 15 16 17 30 Next All
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 09 2016 09:12 GMT
#1497
Like 5v3 is detrimental for town because we cannot no-lynch.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 09 2016 09:12 GMT
#1498
Is blkcoffee getting modkilled?
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 09 2016 09:13 GMT
#1499
Tbf the fact that he didn't get modkilled already probably means he isn't VT lololol.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 09 2016 09:13 GMT
#1500
That's superspeculative and shouldn't affect anything. But still probably true.

Inb4PR
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 09 2016 10:06 GMT
#1505
On June 09 2016 18:39 Jealous wrote:
@Superbia the sad thing is we're not sure if any of those roles even exist ( _ _


There are two. Everyone but medic should prob claim tomorrow depending on whether we lose prs in night.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 09 2016 11:03 GMT
#1508
Because we need the info. Do not claim during the night. Except at 5s to EoD or something.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 09 2016 11:03 GMT
#1509
EoN.*
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 09 2016 11:27 GMT
#1512
On June 09 2016 20:10 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2016 20:03 Superbia wrote:
Because we need the info. Do not claim during the night. Except at 5s to EoD or something.

So let's say a vet and a detective claim. What would we do from that point on? There is a very limited amount of possibilities, might as well strategize now if this is the plan?


The two claims form a confirmed town circle. If there is only 1 claim then a medic is alive and hiding.

I will elaborate more once I get home/am in bus.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 09 2016 13:57 GMT
#1516
PRs should insta claim forst thing tomorrow so there is time for cc wars. Also if you are the medic and you think you're going to get lynched, claim early.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 09 2016 19:52 GMT
#1528
On June 10 2016 03:40 Fecalfeast wrote:
If a blue claims and nobody counterclaims we can't know if it's a real claim until a second blue claims. If two blues claim and nobody counterclaims (either with a third blue role or the same as one of the claimers) we can assume that both blue roles are town eliminating two people from the lynch pool and effectively controlling the nightkills from mafia.

Claim wars is when mafia decides to risk counterclaiming with hopes of getting the blue role(s) lynched first. In the situation we are in it is fairly likely mafia will try to counter in this way as a failed counterclaim(mafia claimer is lynched) mafia still has two members.

That being said I think mafia has been sitting pretty all game and we need to start looking into people who seem towny.


If 3/4 possible roles claim there is no problem. That's why if only 1 role claims we know that there is a medic alive.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 09 2016 19:53 GMT
#1529
On June 10 2016 04:16 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2016 04:09 Jealous wrote:
On June 10 2016 03:40 Fecalfeast wrote:
If a blue claims and nobody counterclaims we can't know if it's a real claim until a second blue claims. If two blues claim and nobody counterclaims (either with a third blue role or the same as one of the claimers) we can assume that both blue roles are town eliminating two people from the lynch pool and effectively controlling the nightkills from mafia.

Claim wars is when mafia decides to risk counterclaiming with hopes of getting the blue role(s) lynched first. In the situation we are in it is fairly likely mafia will try to counter in this way as a failed counterclaim(mafia claimer is lynched) mafia still has two members.

That being said I think mafia has been sitting pretty all game and we need to start looking into people who seem towny.

Why would two people claiming be any less suspect than one person claiming? They could both be lying. Say PR1 claims, PR2 claims, but PR1 actually belongs to someone else. Then "claim wars" start where the actual PR1 claimed after the fake PR1 and how would we know the difference? There is no tangible way, as far as I see it. I almost want to say that it is a ploy by Superbia and EC to expose the influential PRs, because scum would be the only ones that know whether or not the person claiming is scum or not and thus would be much more valuable information to them than the town. However, I will wait to hear a more detailed explanation from Superbia and EC.

I agree with this, how is claiming blue beneficial to town?
Let's say actual cop claims and 1 scum claims cop as well now mafia has a nk target. If that person was lying then the actual cop now has to suspect of another person which is actually town lol
Also vet should never claim he doesn't get anything out of it other than having RB'd ez pz.


If 2 people claim cop you know for a fact that one of them is scum, and you can figure it out from there. Much better than what we currently have.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 09 2016 19:55 GMT
#1530
Unclaimed PRs do nothing in the game and if blkcoffee flips town from the modkill, then it's MYLO tomorrow (i.e. if we lynch town, we lose).
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 09 2016 19:57 GMT
#1531
On June 10 2016 04:09 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2016 03:40 Fecalfeast wrote:
If a blue claims and nobody counterclaims we can't know if it's a real claim until a second blue claims. If two blues claim and nobody counterclaims (either with a third blue role or the same as one of the claimers) we can assume that both blue roles are town eliminating two people from the lynch pool and effectively controlling the nightkills from mafia.

Claim wars is when mafia decides to risk counterclaiming with hopes of getting the blue role(s) lynched first. In the situation we are in it is fairly likely mafia will try to counter in this way as a failed counterclaim(mafia claimer is lynched) mafia still has two members.

That being said I think mafia has been sitting pretty all game and we need to start looking into people who seem towny.

Why would two people claiming be any less suspect than one person claiming? They could both be lying. Say PR1 claims, PR2 claims, but PR1 actually belongs to someone else. Then "claim wars" start where the actual PR1 claimed after the fake PR1 and how would we know the difference? There is no tangible way, as far as I see it. I almost want to say that it is a ploy by Superbia and EC to expose the influential PRs, because scum would be the only ones that know whether or not the person claiming is scum or not and thus would be much more valuable information to them than the town. However, I will wait to hear a more detailed explanation from Superbia and EC.


Why are you grouping us together?
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 09 2016 19:57 GMT
#1532
W/e I'll just die in the night and tomorrow will be a disaster bc TT is probably mafia.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 09 2016 19:57 GMT
#1533
#callingit
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 09 2016 19:57 GMT
#1534
1 between myself and moosy will get killed. This game is just on loop.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 09 2016 19:59 GMT
#1537
On June 10 2016 04:58 Jealous wrote:
Correct me if I misunderstood the OP - is there guaranteed 4 blue PRs in this game? I was under the impression that this wasn't true.


2.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 09 2016 20:00 GMT
#1538
We really need to know what happens with blkcoffee btw =/ If we have a vigi he should 100% shoot if blkcoffee is flipping, else he should hold his shot.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 09 2016 20:05 GMT
#1539
Like is this still confusing to people? I have 10m before I go to bed if people have questions about this.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 09 2016 20:07 GMT
#1542
On June 10 2016 05:06 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2016 04:59 Superbia wrote:
On June 10 2016 04:58 Jealous wrote:
Correct me if I misunderstood the OP - is there guaranteed 4 blue PRs in this game? I was under the impression that this wasn't true.


2.

Okay, I just misunderstood your 3/4 claim post.

In this scenario, as Skynx said, why would Veteran reveal?? He has no actions that could benefit the town, and it would only doom him.


It's a confirmed town.
Minimal effort.
Prev 1 13 14 15 16 17 30 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 12h 29m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Railgan 125
BRAT_OK 91
JuggernautJason83
MindelVK 13
StarCraft: Brood War
HiyA 428
Larva 357
Movie 126
Sexy 96
firebathero 79
Dewaltoss 74
Dota 2
monkeys_forever282
Counter-Strike
pashabiceps1996
Super Smash Bros
PPMD1
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu439
Other Games
summit1g5534
tarik_tv3807
Grubby3620
FrodaN1156
ceh9720
mouzStarbuck352
shahzam346
C9.Mang0222
UpATreeSC109
RotterdaM96
elazer95
QueenE62
NightEnD31
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV327
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream62
StarCraft 2
angryscii 27
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 3
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 37
• Azhi_Dahaki24
• RayReign 17
• FirePhoenix9
• Michael_bg 6
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Other Games
• imaqtpie1350
• Shiphtur274
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
12h 29m
Escore
13h 29m
INu's Battles
14h 29m
Classic vs ByuN
SHIN vs ByuN
OSC
16h 29m
Big Brain Bouts
19h 29m
Replay Cast
1d 3h
Replay Cast
1d 12h
RSL Revival
1d 13h
Classic vs GgMaChine
Rogue vs Maru
WardiTV Invitational
1d 14h
IPSL
1d 19h
Ret vs Art_Of_Turtle
Radley vs TBD
[ Show More ]
BSL
1d 22h
Replay Cast
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
herO vs TriGGeR
NightMare vs Solar
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
BSL
2 days
IPSL
2 days
eOnzErG vs TBD
G5 vs Nesh
Patches Events
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Jaedong vs Light
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Snow vs Flash
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
GSL
5 days
Classic vs Cure
Maru vs Rogue
GSL
6 days
SHIN vs Zoun
ByuN vs herO
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-04-29
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
2026 GSL S1
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W5
KK 2v2 League Season 1
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.