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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 09 2016 09:12 GMT
#1497
Like 5v3 is detrimental for town because we cannot no-lynch.
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 09 2016 09:12 GMT
#1498
Is blkcoffee getting modkilled?
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 09 2016 09:13 GMT
#1499
Tbf the fact that he didn't get modkilled already probably means he isn't VT lololol.
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 09 2016 09:13 GMT
#1500
That's superspeculative and shouldn't affect anything. But still probably true.

Inb4PR
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 09 2016 10:06 GMT
#1505
On June 09 2016 18:39 Jealous wrote:
@Superbia the sad thing is we're not sure if any of those roles even exist ( _ _


There are two. Everyone but medic should prob claim tomorrow depending on whether we lose prs in night.
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 09 2016 11:03 GMT
#1508
Because we need the info. Do not claim during the night. Except at 5s to EoD or something.
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 09 2016 11:03 GMT
#1509
EoN.*
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 09 2016 11:27 GMT
#1512
On June 09 2016 20:10 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2016 20:03 Superbia wrote:
Because we need the info. Do not claim during the night. Except at 5s to EoD or something.

So let's say a vet and a detective claim. What would we do from that point on? There is a very limited amount of possibilities, might as well strategize now if this is the plan?


The two claims form a confirmed town circle. If there is only 1 claim then a medic is alive and hiding.

I will elaborate more once I get home/am in bus.
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 09 2016 13:57 GMT
#1516
PRs should insta claim forst thing tomorrow so there is time for cc wars. Also if you are the medic and you think you're going to get lynched, claim early.
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 09 2016 19:52 GMT
#1528
On June 10 2016 03:40 Fecalfeast wrote:
If a blue claims and nobody counterclaims we can't know if it's a real claim until a second blue claims. If two blues claim and nobody counterclaims (either with a third blue role or the same as one of the claimers) we can assume that both blue roles are town eliminating two people from the lynch pool and effectively controlling the nightkills from mafia.

Claim wars is when mafia decides to risk counterclaiming with hopes of getting the blue role(s) lynched first. In the situation we are in it is fairly likely mafia will try to counter in this way as a failed counterclaim(mafia claimer is lynched) mafia still has two members.

That being said I think mafia has been sitting pretty all game and we need to start looking into people who seem towny.


If 3/4 possible roles claim there is no problem. That's why if only 1 role claims we know that there is a medic alive.
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 09 2016 19:53 GMT
#1529
On June 10 2016 04:16 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2016 04:09 Jealous wrote:
On June 10 2016 03:40 Fecalfeast wrote:
If a blue claims and nobody counterclaims we can't know if it's a real claim until a second blue claims. If two blues claim and nobody counterclaims (either with a third blue role or the same as one of the claimers) we can assume that both blue roles are town eliminating two people from the lynch pool and effectively controlling the nightkills from mafia.

Claim wars is when mafia decides to risk counterclaiming with hopes of getting the blue role(s) lynched first. In the situation we are in it is fairly likely mafia will try to counter in this way as a failed counterclaim(mafia claimer is lynched) mafia still has two members.

That being said I think mafia has been sitting pretty all game and we need to start looking into people who seem towny.

Why would two people claiming be any less suspect than one person claiming? They could both be lying. Say PR1 claims, PR2 claims, but PR1 actually belongs to someone else. Then "claim wars" start where the actual PR1 claimed after the fake PR1 and how would we know the difference? There is no tangible way, as far as I see it. I almost want to say that it is a ploy by Superbia and EC to expose the influential PRs, because scum would be the only ones that know whether or not the person claiming is scum or not and thus would be much more valuable information to them than the town. However, I will wait to hear a more detailed explanation from Superbia and EC.

I agree with this, how is claiming blue beneficial to town?
Let's say actual cop claims and 1 scum claims cop as well now mafia has a nk target. If that person was lying then the actual cop now has to suspect of another person which is actually town lol
Also vet should never claim he doesn't get anything out of it other than having RB'd ez pz.


If 2 people claim cop you know for a fact that one of them is scum, and you can figure it out from there. Much better than what we currently have.
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 09 2016 19:55 GMT
#1530
Unclaimed PRs do nothing in the game and if blkcoffee flips town from the modkill, then it's MYLO tomorrow (i.e. if we lynch town, we lose).
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 09 2016 19:57 GMT
#1531
On June 10 2016 04:09 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2016 03:40 Fecalfeast wrote:
If a blue claims and nobody counterclaims we can't know if it's a real claim until a second blue claims. If two blues claim and nobody counterclaims (either with a third blue role or the same as one of the claimers) we can assume that both blue roles are town eliminating two people from the lynch pool and effectively controlling the nightkills from mafia.

Claim wars is when mafia decides to risk counterclaiming with hopes of getting the blue role(s) lynched first. In the situation we are in it is fairly likely mafia will try to counter in this way as a failed counterclaim(mafia claimer is lynched) mafia still has two members.

That being said I think mafia has been sitting pretty all game and we need to start looking into people who seem towny.

Why would two people claiming be any less suspect than one person claiming? They could both be lying. Say PR1 claims, PR2 claims, but PR1 actually belongs to someone else. Then "claim wars" start where the actual PR1 claimed after the fake PR1 and how would we know the difference? There is no tangible way, as far as I see it. I almost want to say that it is a ploy by Superbia and EC to expose the influential PRs, because scum would be the only ones that know whether or not the person claiming is scum or not and thus would be much more valuable information to them than the town. However, I will wait to hear a more detailed explanation from Superbia and EC.


Why are you grouping us together?
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 09 2016 19:57 GMT
#1532
W/e I'll just die in the night and tomorrow will be a disaster bc TT is probably mafia.
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 09 2016 19:57 GMT
#1533
#callingit
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 09 2016 19:57 GMT
#1534
1 between myself and moosy will get killed. This game is just on loop.
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 09 2016 19:59 GMT
#1537
On June 10 2016 04:58 Jealous wrote:
Correct me if I misunderstood the OP - is there guaranteed 4 blue PRs in this game? I was under the impression that this wasn't true.


2.
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 09 2016 20:00 GMT
#1538
We really need to know what happens with blkcoffee btw =/ If we have a vigi he should 100% shoot if blkcoffee is flipping, else he should hold his shot.
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 09 2016 20:05 GMT
#1539
Like is this still confusing to people? I have 10m before I go to bed if people have questions about this.
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 09 2016 20:07 GMT
#1542
On June 10 2016 05:06 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2016 04:59 Superbia wrote:
On June 10 2016 04:58 Jealous wrote:
Correct me if I misunderstood the OP - is there guaranteed 4 blue PRs in this game? I was under the impression that this wasn't true.


2.

Okay, I just misunderstood your 3/4 claim post.

In this scenario, as Skynx said, why would Veteran reveal?? He has no actions that could benefit the town, and it would only doom him.


It's a confirmed town.
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