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I probably will, but I want this on paper. | ||
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This gives everyone a lot to work on. | ||
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On June 15 2016 08:19 Superbia wrote: You do realize that if people had actually suddenly switched I probably would've voted back on EC? I have questions but I'd rather see how Scott responds first. Scott if you dodge this scenario in the next 24 hours I will raise hell. | ||
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On June 15 2016 08:22 Jealous wrote: I have questions but I'd rather see how Scott responds first. Scott if you dodge this scenario in the next 24 hours I will raise hell. Correction, if you dodge in this scenario in the next 24 hours and I die then there will most definitely be hell. I trust my axe to you, town. | ||
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On June 15 2016 08:19 Superbia wrote: I only truly believe in my own reads man. I don't doubt that you're town. This is not really the answer I was looking for; You can't possibly be examining a Skynx/Scott team anymore, which was your read to start with. Do you feel any reason to aim for EC/TT over EC/Skynx as I did? Or perhaps EC/Scott? Please solidify your reads tonight in case either one of us goes. | ||
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1. Get rid of Superbia, who is of greater potential value to town based on reads/experience. 2. Get rid of me, who has a PR. At this point, it will never hurt them to just RB me and kill me. I am the equivalent of a VT at this point. (If I understand the math correctly and they do have a RB). 3. Get rid of Scott, who just got major town cred for following me in the lynching of a scum and will likely follow whoever is the most town come D5. In effect, he will probably follow either me or Superbia. 4. Get rid of whoever is not scum between Skynx/TT, which in my opinion would be stupid but there is no reason for anyone in here to suspect any besides these two. However, scum could spin some crazy super-believable shit. These are in order of likeliness from my perspective. Logic should dictate (if Superbia can confirm that this is mathematically sound) that if 2 happes, a person who is essentially a VT because the last remaining scum is a RB, gets NK'd then I would place my bets on Superbia or someone who is trying to frame Superbia. 3 or 4 is retarded. I tried to conjecture it, but there is really nothing I can foresee that creates a favorable scenario for scum if 3/4 happens besides intentional confusion. If 3/4 happens, I would be likely to suspect Superbia as well. But now that I've posted this, would this be bait for framing Superbia? WIFOM. I feel like something I posted here must have some value haha. | ||
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Tbh I am drunk so idk what I was thinking but it makes no sense to me right now so disregard this atm. | ||
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On June 15 2016 16:37 Superbia wrote: If you want to fight me tomorrow then we'll fight. Either way you need to be pressured as well. Where the fuck were you during EoD? Damn dude, never seen you get flustered like this so far. Why so angry? | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/508622-newbie-mafia-xxi?user=Jealous&page=13 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/508622-newbie-mafia-xxi?page=111#2219 | ||
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On June 15 2016 08:00 Shapelog wrote: Final Day 4 vote count emperorchampion(4): Jealous, Scott31337, Tictock, Skynx Scott31337(0): Tictock(1) Skynx(1): Not voting (0): Currently, Emperorchampion, is set to be executed. Day 3 ends in All votes must be casted in the voting thread here: Link. I find it highly unlikely that TT is scum because his vote guaranteed that EC would get lynched even if the remaining three people (Superbia, Skynx, EC) all voted for another person because of the way the vote rules work. Although, it is still possible that Skynx made TT shenannying pointless and thus TT just decided to stay on EC. Similarly, it is possible that Skynx knew that there was no way he could change the outcome of the votes so he went on EC despite them both being scum. I am going to say the second scenario is more likely. | ||
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What bothers me about this is that I doubt BtDt made a claim like that without conferring with his scum colleagues, so this would mean that Superbia would have to have told BtDt to claim an impossible role, reveal that it was impossible to curry favor, have BtDt continue to incriminate himself by claiming yet another role, and thus eliminate any chance of scum winning on D3. That just doesn't seem like a smart thing to do. | ||
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Cheers to all players, special shout-out to Blazinghand for being a dopecity coach, all of the mods/admins in this great newbie mafia that brought me back into the game, Scott for being my right-hand-man after my claim and never doubting me, Tictock for being a solid townread for me from the start, Superbia with the mathematical wizardry, Moosy for the claim timing and overall interesting play. Greatest apologies to QuickTwist, slightly less so to kush. Props to scum for making this game a sweaty mess; even when I got the two reads that I would later know to be correct (EC + Skynx), I felt dazed and confused. Thank you for an enjoyable experience, everyone! | ||
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"Moosy, super n jealous are nonfactors." I have great respect for Moosy and Super for crafting this image when in the end they proved to be two of the most pivotal town players. No shame on you Skynx, D1/2 were mad confusing, it felt like the wild wild West. But to have these two players come out in force in D3 and be "non-factors" in D2 is just so pro. | ||
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Quote from mafia QT @emperorchampion after D2: "Oh man, I think that frame jealous and kill super could be a really good play, like game winning but it's a bit of a gamble. frame skynx seems like the logical options, but I'm almost inclined to go with the yolo call " This yolo had some serious potential. Respect for EC rising. "OK so this isn't final, but here are my votes for kill/cockblock if the others show up: 1) Superbia 2) TickTock 3) Jealous I kind of like super more, but I'm also thinking he might get doctored. I think TT could be dangerous since it seems like he wants both Skynx and beenthere dead. Also I like TT for kill since he is less likely to get doctored I feel. I don't like TT because it could be a huge tell." This too. As I'm working through the list I can't help but feel "Thank god I voted to lynch EC and stayed on that damn wagon when I did." Quoting shapelog: Skynx has gone to another country where QT is blocked. I told for now to commcate via PM, but I prob going to move this to another messaging program. Damn that sucks!!! Sorry I had 0 time to do anything today, just catching up. Skynx you definitely did some scummy things but you're trying hard and that's cool. People have a very hard time lynching an active player over an AFK player, even if the AFK player is less scummy than the active one. This is a real thing to remember as scum, especially on TL where last minute switch are frequent. Unless you screwed up a looooot, which isn't the case here, you always have a chance to save yourself by being super active near deadline. One thing you all are not doing are talking to each other though. Unless I missed it I don't think there is a single interaction between any two of you ? It's definitely partner indicative if one of you flips at some point Strong point from Rels ^ !! Moving onto the PM exchange between Skynx and EC, I am fully appreciating how different and difficult the game is from Mafia standpoint in this format. I somehow underestimated how much they can coordinate, and how in-depth. Reading their reads is so interesting! Quoting EC: Maybe we can push a Moosy / Scott / Jealous team. Jealous will defend himself vigorously in his own crazy way, we can swap in Moosy / Scott / Beentheredonethat as the team. I feel like Super and Tictock could buy that. Just the skeleton of some thoughts, any comments? This read is so strong. Quoting BTDT: It is. He has the potential to go nuts on us. LOL is that my rep now Going further into posts, it alarms me how bright of a target I was in D1/D2 while lynching townies and being a PR, lol. I should be more careful maybe? Quoting EC: We just need to corrupt one of Jealous and Super and we win. THAT'S WHERE YOU MESSED UP Quoting Rles: I have no idea what's going on with blkcoffee, but a modkill here would help you a lot. It means it's MYLO and town needs 3 correct lynches in a row to win. In that situation you should go hardcore bus (push another teammate as your primary target) all day and fight with him all day. That way even if he flips it's unlikely the surviving scums are lynched the next day. The important part to get town credit is not voting for a scum but fighting with him / shutting down his argument. Keep that in mind if you chose to go this way. Pardon me, but you are a slimy scummy fuck and I will never trust you after this. Quoting EC: Also we know there is a vet, I'm pretty sure it's either super or jealous. If it is jealous we are in trouble. Muahahahha Quoting BTDT: It's pretty much vanilla now, roles are useless once Moosy is dead. I feel like having been fucked over by the host though. That might very well just be salt, so I will sleep a night over it and See how i feel about the issue tomorrow. Sorry mate  Quoting Rels: /m142 I will do a better post on what you can do tomorrow 'cause I'm pretty tired right now. But yeah anything to look like you're scumhunting is good. Rereading the dead scum's filter to find "partenrs" might be a good idea. Whatever you find you should present it in a way that is pushing SKynx as your primary target. There is very little chance he isn't lynched today I guess finding "partners" was a good idea for town as well, since I nailed it  Quoting Rels: bro it's entirely possible something crazy happens between now and the deadline. It's only an "IF", but if you have the time you should try to post things and be townie by getting emotional little by little because remember: YOU are town, if you're mislynched the game is lost. So fight and become more and more angry and start screaming with caps when there is little time left, like 15-30 minutes before the deadline, and the lynch might go to someone else in the chaos. Or maybe not, but it worth to try Now I know what to look for >;D | ||
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