EPT[M][N]A Wonderful Normal Game of Mafia
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Kush, you have been the most active player in the game I assume you must have a scum read on someone? Policy lynching palmar is pointless. JAT, your filter is 20% of the total game and I dont see you calling anyone a scum really? Seems weird for you. As a town I would expect you to be giving a stronger opinion on things. So far I don't really see any hard headed JAT opinions that I would expect from someone who cared about finding scum. Marv lean town just based on his super weak defense of etellex. Guy wasnt under any pressure seemed pointless to defend him as mafia especially when it is just a feel defense and going to draw more attention to yourself. Especially if he is going to put 0 effort in just seems like a weird thing for him to even bother posting as mafia. Riceykins/JAT odds of them both being mafia are super small. Hard to explain but attacking someone for having a rehearsed entrance is a really weird thing for mafia to go after each other for. I just dont remember ever seeing it that often, especially if riceykins is new. Tubesock, entrance felt really weird to me. Overly forced/jokey. A lot of random questions to people with 0 follow up. And none of the questions seem to really impact his reads. Seems way more confident marv is scum but still voting etellex? I still have to read the nutcracker filter. Fazers - Weird, his thinking is completely nonsensical. Doesnt appear to actually care about finding scum? On May 04 2016 10:31 Fazers wrote: I have a strong opinion about Shapelog - imo he's a strong player from my observations. Thus I will not vote to lynch him on Day 1. However, that may change as days pass.  This is weird also, unnecessary buddying up when shape hasnt done anything. Right now I would be fine lynching any of JAT/tube/faze. Probably JAT #1 unless he actually contributes something. Feels like JAT is around a lot but just commenting on the side as things go on and not actually doing anything. A lot of fake activity. | ||
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Shape I have posted who are you going to vote for? | ||
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So the questions going nowhere doesnt seem to be really alignment indicative, he did it in both games. But during his mafia game he was a lot quicker to give out his town reads. Tube's first post as town in storm + Show Spoiler + On March 25 2016 01:24 Tubesock wrote: Good morning. Kurumi is my biggest scum read. Seems opportunistic with the Gumdrops push. Damdred was fishing (but not for roles) and it didn't seem Gums was saying Damdred was fishing for that, but Kurumi jumps his ass. Meanwhile Ritoky ACTUALLY fishes for roles yet all Kurumi says is "very vary of Ritoky". The rest of Kurumi's posts seem nitpicky. Tumble and Shape are forgettable and blending. I'm going to leave Koshi at null. I'm not liking his "play" but I did like his little outburst of emotion. Although, I find it hard to believe that can't be faked. As far as town I think my strongest TR's are Superbia, Vivax just below Jat and Rels. Damdred with a town lean. Ritoky probably is in fact VT. Slam I think is probably town. I am having trouble seeing the point of breadcrumbing so much if he were mafia. Why not just shut up and blow someone up? I do want to hear his explanation. Immediately gives a scum read, lists town reads but they are secondary. He never really gives a town list again throughout the game. He also went by his own opinion and voted the guy he had a scum read on. First post in nutcracker, immediately gives a town read and buddys up to someone. Notice he gives himself an opportunity to bandwagon his lynch target. + Show Spoiler + On December 15 2015 09:28 Tubesock wrote: Hello all, sorry had a long travel couple of days and my hotel internet is pretty terrible. Anyway, Koshi is the only one acting towny. I think he’s funny and I like his critical eye (Kusgate). I think his alternate lynch on Rels is interesting. Whether Koshi wants to lynch him or just pressure him, I think that benefits town. I’m thinking about Shapelog. The first half of his filter I can’t help but think he’s just parroting and talking to talk. Then he has to “reread my filter” (#182 pg 10) which I think is super weird unless he’s mafia. He then talks about TT in a scummy way but ends with “null”. If he found it null, why not just say “meh, I don’t see the case” or something? Why the big post? Sukrit is in some ways like Shapelog. But different somehow too. I personally think Koshi’s post about he’s going to be useless and then a few posts later actually delivers makes Koshi towny more than scummy. Yet, Sukrit appears driven to lynch him because he’s convinced Koshi is mafia. I will think about him more later. No one else has done anything interesting. He then follows up by following the bandwagon and voting rels with koshi. And later on making a large post listing his town reads This game he immediately buddys up with kush, then buddys up to slam (putting slam on multiple town read/ no lynch lists why?) And then immediately hops on slams bandwagon and votes etellex (very similar to how he did in nutcracker as mafia) It appears his strongest mafia read is marv but he hasnt made any attempt to actually lynch him. I am good with a tubesock lynch ##vote Tubesock | ||
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On May 05 2016 03:12 Killing wrote: Agreed but then as a counter argument, wouldn't that just encourage meta where scum just afk day 1? Don't you have to lynch afks a certain percentage of the time to make that -EV? If mafia all just afkd every game then mafia wouldnt be very fun. In the end its still a game to play and usually someone is going to actually participate. | ||
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On May 05 2016 03:43 Shapelog wrote: I am kinda confused. In nut, and in the post you quoted. He gave both me and Surkit (Onegu) a scum read as well as the town read on Koshi. Yes, it was TR -> SR vs. storm, which was SR -> TR, but idk how tube decides to format his posts makes him mafia. Also, I can't belief, I even mentioned it, but didn't think about the whole buddy thing. But add later budding me as well to the list (D2 tho) Format thing is definitely much lesser, but if you look at how he formatted his town list as mafia it is the same way he formatted it here and different than when he formatted it in his town game. Obviously this is pretty minor though. The buddying thing is a lot stronger. As town he formed his own read and went with it, as mafia he just named a town read and bandwagoned which is what he is doing this game. Kush- its day 1 obviously no read is 100% but I think the case against tube is stronger than anything anyone else has. | ||
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My other option is like JAT who isnt being the JAT town I know but maybe hes sick etc. I would lynch him over a random but there is more pointing against tube I think. Kush you think tube is town right? Why? | ||
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What do you think about my post? Do you still want to lynch me after I have posted? Assuming you are going to move your vote who are you voting for instead? | ||
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Votes way too spread out right now, need to consolidate on a couple candidates. Kush nobody is going to lynch drp/palmar. Pick a real candidate to vote for if you are town. What do people think of fazer? | ||
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Tubesock tell me why we should be lynching etellex over you then since he seems to be the only candidate you think is reasonable to be lynched. | ||
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tube has 3 me/fazers/riceykins have 1 atm I believe | ||
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On May 05 2016 05:49 Tubesock wrote: Why wouldnt' I want to save myself as either alignment? yeah currently I think it's marv, etellex, and fazer. But I'm not really willing to vote fazer, while I'm willing to vote Dr Thrawn. realistically I know I'm probably wrong on one or two. If I have the mafia team on D1 no one would ever hear the end of it. I'm pretty conflicted on Fazer. Not very conflicted with Etellex though. I'm not dumb enough to think Marv is lyncheable. I am not saying you shouldnt be trying to save yourself, you just seem to be putting very little effort into actually finding mafia. It just appears to me that you are more concerned with saving yourself than voting for your strongest mafia reads or trying to help the town. | ||
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But I would rather lynch tube still. Kush if you are sure tube is town can you give a summary or something at least. | ||
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Also this is pretty exceptionally lazy even for marv. | ||
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On May 06 2016 01:56 Shapelog wrote: Mig you seem to know Marv, Can you answer my question? I havent played in a year so cant really speak to how current marv is. In the past when I played with him tho he certainly put in more effort than he is here. As for trolly I dont see him trolling here really just playing really half assed. | ||
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I like kush/shape the most out of anyone wouldnt confirm them town or anything but look pretty good Dont trust marv/JAT. Both of them being totally awol this night is a bad sign. Not proof or anything but in general I think mafia post less during the night than town. I know I have been guilty of this a lot as mafia, especially if I am feeling lazy I dont even read the thread some nights. Both are active players that I would expect to usually post some during the night. Combined with marv being worthless. And JAT being kind of meh. Palmar who knows he posted finally but it was worthless alakazam - if etellex ends up being mafia slam looks pretty good. His last second vote change would have hammered him. But wouldnt make him guaranteed town or anything since it came post deadline and could just be some attempted sneakyness. Also awol during the night. Killing lean town I guess, his first long post explaining his thinking felt like a townie mindset and then his no taksie backsies feels kind of townie? It was anti town and dumb to just leave his vote on ricey but he did it in a way that people could jump on him and attack him for which mafia usually try to avoid. Could easily be wrong here tho ricey - lean town very slightly. The accusing marv/JAT convo of being staged feels kind of like a paranoid thing a townie might jump on. Weak read tho etellex - every post is him making excuses and apologizing for his lack of activity. Every post he makes is so hesitant. Could be newbie town but would lean more towards mafia. Totally awol during the night as well. Fazers I dont know I would expect at least one of marv/palmar/JAT (maybe 2 of them) to be mafia just to make the game fun unless damdred totally randomized the teams. But regardless 1/2 of them and then fill the team out with someone from the etellex/fazers/killing/ricey/slam group. | ||
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I could see slam/JAT/palmar all thinking marv shot is good. | ||
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As for blue hunting I really dont care about it. I feel like mafia very rarely do anything that is really trying to bait out blues since it would draw attention to themselves. It is townies who do things like that way more often. | ||
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On May 07 2016 03:53 Killing wrote: I thought by default people don't like palmar I like palmar! But unless something changes there is no reason not to lynch him. Nothing he has done has been townie. Even strapped for time he certainly isnt making any actual attempts to find scum. So might as well sheep the only confirmed townie on him. #vote Palmar Also wtf sandroba, not sure I buy that he replaced into the game then forgot about it within 24 hours. Not great also that all he has managed is a couple of town reads on people. I expect a lot more out of sandroba as town than that. | ||
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Palmar if the correct lynch is sandroba why are you voting killing? | ||
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Also I think it was JAT who said something like you know palmar is mafia when he says shit that doesnt make sense, concerning palmar saying he wouldnt have shot marv. So JATs looking pretty decent. | ||
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##vote sandroba | ||
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We trusted marv before and he lead us to palmar why shouldnt we trust him again? | ||
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Yea let me rephrase that, not the main reason they died but he made himself and sandroba look worse for nothing if killing is also mafia. | ||
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Started the game with pregame saying he was going to be lazy but then followed it up by saying he just said that incase he rolled scum and being super active day1. So right from the start if he were scum he could have taken the easy way out and been lazy but instead was super active. Followed it up by trying to policy lynch palmar with his second choice being drp. So if he were mafia would have had to use the pregame for town cred then try to semi bus both team mates. Day1 right after I posted he suggested lynching me but immediately flipped on that after I responded. Seemed like a pretty genuine read change. If kush is mafia he would have had to do a lot of shit day1 just for towncred. More likely he is just town unless someone has any arguments for why he is scum. | ||
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##vote alakaslam Death to slam hes mafia! | ||
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Even tho it seems we are far ahead, the last mafia is still playing because they must think they have some shot at winning. And even tho we are ahead we only have 2 mislynches, we mislynch 3 times we lose. So please do not just vote then afk for 48 hours. Post who you think the mafia are and why, post who you trust in the town and why, post why you arent mafia. Just give your honest thoughts even if you dont have anything original to say at least give the town something to work with. And for the love of god if you are on the road to being mislynched fight for your life, dont just lay down and die. You are part of a team! And mafia isnt fun when people just quit playing. If you do so I will hold a grudge against you for life. If you are mafia tho feel free to just let yourself get lynched. | ||
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It could be that the mafia roles were randomized so obviously this isnt definitive proof but if they did get to pick I could definitely see a slam gf. An etellex/fazers gf not so much. | ||
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On May 12 2016 17:48 justanothertownie wrote: I am 99.99999 % sure that damdred would neither pick the mafia team without randomizing nor give mafia the opportunity to choose their roles. It is NOT common. Maybe it was when you used to play more but in the 3 years I have been active on this site I remember exactly one game were that was the case. And damdred joined the community way later. Last time I played a year ago and was mafia they let us pick our roles. Seems fine by me. But again it was a minor thing that doesnt prove anything (as I sais). Obv you still feel the need to argue about it. Really makes you annoying to play with sometimes. | ||
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8 people left 1 mislynch -7 Mafia kill -6 2nd mislynch -5 Mafia kill -4 3rd mislynch -3 Mafia kill -2 gg If slam/etellex are not mafia and both are killed it will end up with fazers/killing/ricey and either me or JAT. Making sure all 3 townies vote correctly there is tricky. Definitely wouldnt call the game easy with this many people who have barely posted, unless slam is mafia then np. | ||
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You seriously have to be mafia when this is so obvious yet it is all you talk about instead of any actual reasons someone else is scum. If you are town its a real smh scenario. | ||
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I am not cop Jats not cop Killing/ricey both posting reasonably and have said kush is town so odds are they couldnt be cop Fazers said he isnt cop So who is the cop? Is it you slam or the guy you want to lynch etellex? | ||
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Concerning fazers and slam Games are better off without people who wont even try to play. I would rather a game not run than one run where people refuse to play. If every game is going to be like this one I cant see myself wanting to play on TL again. And for sure I wont ever sign up again for a game if I see slam/fazers in the players list. Just my opinion though. | ||
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