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[M][N]A Wonderful Normal Game of Mafia

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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
April 27 2016 02:42 GMT
#35
/in
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
April 28 2016 19:21 GMT
#51
Without jat who is going to yell at me and tell me how bad I am?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
April 29 2016 13:56 GMT
#56
I will be gone all saturday but a weekend start would be ok by me still. Monday fine also
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
May 02 2016 13:33 GMT
#69
Game starts today?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
May 04 2016 16:33 GMT
#465
My bad guys I havent read anything yet. I will get caught up real quick and should be here pretty much until deadline.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
May 04 2016 17:35 GMT
#497
quick thoughts

Kush, you have been the most active player in the game I assume you must have a scum read on someone? Policy lynching palmar is pointless.

JAT, your filter is 20% of the total game and I dont see you calling anyone a scum really? Seems weird for you. As a town I would expect you to be giving a stronger opinion on things. So far I don't really see any hard headed JAT opinions that I would expect from someone who cared about finding scum.

Marv lean town just based on his super weak defense of etellex. Guy wasnt under any pressure seemed pointless to defend him as mafia especially when it is just a feel defense and going to draw more attention to yourself. Especially if he is going to put 0 effort in just seems like a weird thing for him to even bother posting as mafia.

Riceykins/JAT odds of them both being mafia are super small. Hard to explain but attacking someone for having a rehearsed entrance is a really weird thing for mafia to go after each other for. I just dont remember ever seeing it that often, especially if riceykins is new.

Tubesock, entrance felt really weird to me. Overly forced/jokey. A lot of random questions to people with 0 follow up. And none of the questions seem to really impact his reads. Seems way more confident marv is scum but still voting etellex? I still have to read the nutcracker filter.

Fazers - Weird, his thinking is completely nonsensical. Doesnt appear to actually care about finding scum?
On May 04 2016 10:31 Fazers wrote:

I have a strong opinion about Shapelog - imo he's a strong player from my observations. Thus I will not vote to lynch him on Day 1. However, that may change as days pass.


This is weird also, unnecessary buddying up when shape hasnt done anything.

Right now I would be fine lynching any of JAT/tube/faze. Probably JAT #1 unless he actually contributes something. Feels like JAT is around a lot but just commenting on the side as things go on and not actually doing anything. A lot of fake activity.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
May 04 2016 17:47 GMT
#498
Where are kush and JAT now!

Shape I have posted who are you going to vote for?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
May 04 2016 17:49 GMT
#499
Tube you were around 1hr ago, why are you voting etellex instead of marv? You seem much more confident in marv being scum and you have a lot more to work with.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
May 04 2016 17:56 GMT
#501
you lynch me and you are going to look like a real idiot honestly
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
May 04 2016 17:57 GMT
#503
zzzzzzzzzzz
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
May 04 2016 17:59 GMT
#505
I mean it is partially my own fault for being gone so long but if you read my 1 post then lynch me over the other people in the game as a town you should feel really bad about yourself.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
May 04 2016 18:10 GMT
#511
Lynching palmar is pointless really. What exactly do you learn from lynching him? Basically just an entire wasted day. At least force people to take stands and vote someone out who is posting.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
May 04 2016 18:24 GMT
#517
So I have read tubesock's nutcracker and storm games.

So the questions going nowhere doesnt seem to be really alignment indicative, he did it in both games. But during his mafia game he was a lot quicker to give out his town reads.

Tube's first post as town in storm

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On March 25 2016 01:24 Tubesock wrote:
Good morning.

Kurumi is my biggest scum read. Seems opportunistic with the Gumdrops push. Damdred was fishing (but not for roles) and it didn't seem Gums was saying Damdred was fishing for that, but Kurumi jumps his ass. Meanwhile Ritoky ACTUALLY fishes for roles yet all Kurumi says is "very vary of Ritoky". The rest of Kurumi's posts seem nitpicky.

Tumble and Shape are forgettable and blending.

I'm going to leave Koshi at null. I'm not liking his "play" but I did like his little outburst of emotion. Although, I find it hard to believe that can't be faked.

As far as town I think my strongest TR's are Superbia, Vivax just below Jat and Rels. Damdred with a town lean.

Ritoky probably is in fact VT.

Slam I think is probably town. I am having trouble seeing the point of breadcrumbing so much if he were mafia. Why not just shut up and blow someone up? I do want to hear his explanation.



Immediately gives a scum read, lists town reads but they are secondary. He never really gives a town list again throughout the game. He also went by his own opinion and voted the guy he had a scum read on.

First post in nutcracker, immediately gives a town read and buddys up to someone. Notice he gives himself an opportunity to bandwagon his lynch target.

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On December 15 2015 09:28 Tubesock wrote:
Hello all, sorry had a long travel couple of days and my hotel internet is pretty terrible.

Anyway, Koshi is the only one acting towny. I think he’s funny and I like his critical eye (Kusgate). I think his alternate lynch on Rels is interesting. Whether Koshi wants to lynch him or just pressure him, I think that benefits town.

I’m thinking about Shapelog. The first half of his filter I can’t help but think he’s just parroting and talking to talk. Then he has to “reread my filter” (#182 pg 10) which I think is super weird unless he’s mafia. He then talks about TT in a scummy way but ends with “null”. If he found it null, why not just say “meh, I don’t see the case” or something? Why the big post?

Sukrit is in some ways like Shapelog. But different somehow too. I personally think Koshi’s post about he’s going to be useless and then a few posts later actually delivers makes Koshi towny more than scummy. Yet, Sukrit appears driven to lynch him because he’s convinced Koshi is mafia. I will think about him more later.

No one else has done anything interesting.



He then follows up by following the bandwagon and voting rels with koshi. And later on making a large post listing his town reads

This game he immediately buddys up with kush, then buddys up to slam (putting slam on multiple town read/ no lynch lists why?) And then immediately hops on slams bandwagon and votes etellex (very similar to how he did in nutcracker as mafia) It appears his strongest mafia read is marv but he hasnt made any attempt to actually lynch him.

I am good with a tubesock lynch

##vote Tubesock

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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
May 04 2016 18:26 GMT
#519
On May 05 2016 03:12 Killing wrote:
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On May 05 2016 03:10 Mig wrote:
Lynching palmar is pointless really. What exactly do you learn from lynching him? Basically just an entire wasted day. At least force people to take stands and vote someone out who is posting.


Agreed but then as a counter argument, wouldn't that just encourage meta where scum just afk day 1? Don't you have to lynch afks a certain percentage of the time to make that -EV?


If mafia all just afkd every game then mafia wouldnt be very fun. In the end its still a game to play and usually someone is going to actually participate.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
May 04 2016 18:55 GMT
#527
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On May 05 2016 03:43 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2016 03:24 Mig wrote:
So I have read tubesock's nutcracker and storm games.

So the questions going nowhere doesnt seem to be really alignment indicative, he did it in both games. But during his mafia game he was a lot quicker to give out his town reads.

Tube's first post as town in storm

+ Show Spoiler +
On March 25 2016 01:24 Tubesock wrote:
Good morning.

Kurumi is my biggest scum read. Seems opportunistic with the Gumdrops push. Damdred was fishing (but not for roles) and it didn't seem Gums was saying Damdred was fishing for that, but Kurumi jumps his ass. Meanwhile Ritoky ACTUALLY fishes for roles yet all Kurumi says is "very vary of Ritoky". The rest of Kurumi's posts seem nitpicky.

Tumble and Shape are forgettable and blending.

I'm going to leave Koshi at null. I'm not liking his "play" but I did like his little outburst of emotion. Although, I find it hard to believe that can't be faked.

As far as town I think my strongest TR's are Superbia, Vivax just below Jat and Rels. Damdred with a town lean.

Ritoky probably is in fact VT.

Slam I think is probably town. I am having trouble seeing the point of breadcrumbing so much if he were mafia. Why not just shut up and blow someone up? I do want to hear his explanation.



Immediately gives a scum read, lists town reads but they are secondary. He never really gives a town list again throughout the game. He also went by his own opinion and voted the guy he had a scum read on.

First post in nutcracker, immediately gives a town read and buddys up to someone. Notice he gives himself an opportunity to bandwagon his lynch target.

+ Show Spoiler +
On December 15 2015 09:28 Tubesock wrote:
Hello all, sorry had a long travel couple of days and my hotel internet is pretty terrible.

Anyway, Koshi is the only one acting towny. I think he’s funny and I like his critical eye (Kusgate). I think his alternate lynch on Rels is interesting. Whether Koshi wants to lynch him or just pressure him, I think that benefits town.

I’m thinking about Shapelog. The first half of his filter I can’t help but think he’s just parroting and talking to talk. Then he has to “reread my filter” (#182 pg 10) which I think is super weird unless he’s mafia. He then talks about TT in a scummy way but ends with “null”. If he found it null, why not just say “meh, I don’t see the case” or something? Why the big post?

Sukrit is in some ways like Shapelog. But different somehow too. I personally think Koshi’s post about he’s going to be useless and then a few posts later actually delivers makes Koshi towny more than scummy. Yet, Sukrit appears driven to lynch him because he’s convinced Koshi is mafia. I will think about him more later.

No one else has done anything interesting.



He then follows up by following the bandwagon and voting rels with koshi. And later on making a large post listing his town reads

This game he immediately buddys up with kush, then buddys up to slam (putting slam on multiple town read/ no lynch lists why?) And then immediately hops on slams bandwagon and votes etellex (very similar to how he did in nutcracker as mafia) It appears his strongest mafia read is marv but he hasnt made any attempt to actually lynch him.

I am good with a tubesock lynch

##vote Tubesock


I am kinda confused.
In nut, and in the post you quoted. He gave both me and Surkit (Onegu) a scum read as well as the town read on Koshi. Yes, it was TR -> SR vs. storm, which was SR -> TR, but idk how tube decides to format his posts makes him mafia.

Also, I can't belief, I even mentioned it, but didn't think about the whole buddy thing. But add later budding me as well to the list (D2 tho)


Format thing is definitely much lesser, but if you look at how he formatted his town list as mafia it is the same way he formatted it here and different than when he formatted it in his town game. Obviously this is pretty minor though. The buddying thing is a lot stronger. As town he formed his own read and went with it, as mafia he just named a town read and bandwagoned which is what he is doing this game.

Kush- its day 1 obviously no read is 100% but I think the case against tube is stronger than anything anyone else has.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
May 04 2016 18:57 GMT
#529
At least with tube, my gut reaction to how he started in the thread was weird/off and then looking through his past games there are some similarities to his mafia game.

My other option is like JAT who isnt being the JAT town I know but maybe hes sick etc. I would lynch him over a random but there is more pointing against tube I think.

Kush you think tube is town right? Why?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
May 04 2016 19:00 GMT
#530
I would probably move fazers above JAT actually on the list of people I would like to lynch. Fazers you come in and comment on nothing besides making an excuse for your activity.

What do you think about my post? Do you still want to lynch me after I have posted? Assuming you are going to move your vote who are you voting for instead?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
May 04 2016 19:04 GMT
#533
Assuming Palmar isnt going to get lynched today who are you going to vote for kush?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
May 04 2016 19:06 GMT
#535
zzzzzzzzzz
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
May 04 2016 19:44 GMT
#542
slam who are you going to vote for?
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