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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 22 2016 20:58 GMT
#1955
The thing I dislike the most about Onegus play (besides his lack of content or interest in getting a good lynch) is how he is riding this stupid scumclaim. The problem is that it wouldn't be the first time that he insists on something silly like that.
But to treat me as confirmed town just because of that is just so careless.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 22 2016 21:26 GMT
#1967
On April 23 2016 06:19 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
[image loading]

A Shapelog Case/ last testomany.



Gentleman, ladies.

As we all know (or at least know) I have either A) been sus. of tumble from the geeko or B) argue a bit for his townieness. I've been flip flopy A bit and I know. So, I will basically give you my most updated read on tumble.

In this case, I shall be proving to you that the defendant, tumblewood, is indeed mafia (mostly likely). I shall start with what convinced me he is scum. This will not be a damm narrative (winks as Rels) this time either, as most of my town cases end up being.


Alright, the post that pushed me over the edge:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2016 03:44 Tumblewood wrote:
Hola compadres, I apologize for my absence.
It seems like the plan is to lynch Shape and then me. Fortunately we have a mislynch, but that means bringing Onegu to LyLo (bar a doc save) and if Rels is scum-- still not ruled out-- we lose.
So I advise that you don't lynch me and instead go for Onegu or Rels. I'd recommend ignoring everything Shape says today because his words are laced with wine.

I kinda already have spew over this. So I just going to restate the facts a bit more.

Tumble comes in, almost what? 20+ hours since his last post, and posts this. Ok, the timing doesn't mean much. The content of the post however is the major fault.

The first glaring prob. is that he is auguring to defend himself, even before I fucking flip. And already trying to push someone else instead of him. This isn't even tumble's normal "post to sruvuvie" kinda post, and usually those posts are on the day he is getting lynched. Moreover, the fact he is already paranoid about dieing tomorrow makes no sense IMO from a townie mindset.

The next thing is the people he wants to lynch instead of him Rels, and Onegu. Alright, Rels I can understand from read progression (kinda) although, Tumble hasn't really explained anything about why he wants to lynch Rels since he revised his reads other than this:
Show nested quote +
Really, the scummiest thing Rels has done wasn't voting me D1 but dropping/ignoring the case later.

Which honestly really isn't enough IMO for a lynch but w.e I am not tumble.

Onegu on the other hand was TR by Tumble. Explanation:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2016 03:07 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 21 2016 03:04 justanothertownie wrote:
Can you explain why you are townreading Onegu?

You don't claim your scum partner scumslipped and confirmed someone else as town (and keep telling everyone to make sure they all know) when clearly no one else saw it as that. It's counterproductive as scum and really useful as town (at least to the townie).

And no other changes has happen to that read that I or anyone knows of. This also shouldn't make Onegu one of his prefer lynches. I have a theory on why this is the case.

He reads the thread, sees that people are sus. of onegu for mutilate reasons, and even steals the "taking Onegu to Lylo" part of multiple peoples reads on Onegu. Dispate, only playing with Onegu before hand in XIX AND basically calling Onegu a high town read.

So the targets (mostly Onegu) don't even line the fuck up with how tumble is seeing the game.


Why I was sus. of him earlier (D1)

I was sus. of tumble D1 due to how he was playing, it didn't feel like the tumble I know. Hence why I voted for him. When I later brings this up (I went back to that discussion) Tumble says I can't use meta, for either side of the coin. I made a rebutlte (If I can't, you can't use XIX for meta, yet you have in the past), yet he does not respond ever again. I didn't noticed this actually until now. And at that time I remember me being in his town pool.

Also, people (rels) showed me also how his stance wasn't as strong as I thought. Won't really do into this as this was Rels point and not mine.



He still hasn't gave us anything as of late (and spent most of his time he back either down talking me) about expanding those "Man, I only got 1 scum and 6 town reads" revises outside of Rels, which is pretty shallow to say the least.

Can you explain why it didn't feel like the tumble you know day1?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 22 2016 21:28 GMT
#1970
On April 23 2016 06:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
:|

How about you tell us what to do today? :D
On April 16 2016 13:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Also, since everyone is just going to lurk and do whatever then I hereby nominate myself town leader and godking of the universe.

You are free to fail to contest my title at any time.

justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 22 2016 21:29 GMT
#1971
Since obviously noone dares to contest your title.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 22 2016 21:37 GMT
#1987
The thing is there are reasons to lynch all 3 of them and I really can't be arsed to decide.

I read tumbles filter and skimmed most of his other games. If I had to choose it looks a little more like his scumgame but tbh. it doesn't really look similar to any game he played and he has a way longer filter than ever before. I still liked the way he approached being lynched day1 minus the thing about not lynching his counterwagon which I think is the strongest argument for him to be mafia by far.
On April 18 2016 05:12 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2016 04:25 rsoultin wrote:
On April 18 2016 04:06 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 18 2016 03:24 rsoultin wrote:
On April 18 2016 01:57 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 17 2016 12:47 rsoultin wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:51 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:46 rsoultin wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:44 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:42 rsoultin wrote:
[quote]

???

nope i just have the one: you making up shit when questioned on a statement that i found weird in the first place

i mean obviously if you're town here you fucked up hard and shouldn't bs, but most townies don't because there's no reason to. like seriously why would you find the need to make up reasons for saying things?

because it looks bad to not have a reason and i didn't want to dig up some post from five pages ago to defend myself
for the record i wasn't totally lying just wrong + Show Spoiler +
as if that means anything


okay so let's play a game here

you want me to treat you as confirmed town until your flip, then i want you to treat me as confirmed town as well

give me your other reads, with reasoning, and what questions you want me to answer that i've asked you for like 5 times already if you really want me to answer them

jat is town
jas is ??? but should be more apparent after he says who he is; giving him BotD
superbia is maybe scum (i have no good reasons on this one)
palmar is null because he's not really out of his comfort zone
i want to call rels and gumshoe scummy but that's mostly omgus
sl is a 49 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saaying one slightly scummy thing
gb is a 50 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saying nothing
onegu is a 51 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saying nothing of value
ows is town because i like how he continued to townread me
fazers is scummy but also new so maybe just a scrub

tbh my reads are all based on spidey senses right now



@tumble...super maybe scum=no vote as alternate wagon...gb exactly null=vote as alternate wagon

care to explain?

I was afraid of voting Superbia and him flipping green (not as a likelihood thing, but if he did I forecast my own mislynch for the next day). GB lynch happened at a point where several more townies had come out and defended me and attacked Superbia, so it felt, in a way, less risky.


-squints at- i don't really understand this explanation

what is the difference between you being lynched d1 or d2? until gb ninja-voted he was prob not getting lynched over super, yet you were still voting yourself because you were worried you'd be lynched d2 if super flipped town? so d1 is okay but not d2?

explain the bolded like i'm 5. what is the significance of when the gb lynch happened and how was that less risky?

Because at that point it was clear that voting a counterwagon was the difference between dying and surviving instead of dying d1 and dying d2.
Of course, it turned out GB would have died without my help, but it still seemed up in the air at the time.


why?

when superbia was the counterwagon i thought i would for sure be lynched at some point
when gb was the counterwagon it became apparent that maybe i wouldn't be lynched

On April 18 2016 05:37 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2016 05:23 rsoultin wrote:
On April 18 2016 05:12 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 18 2016 04:25 rsoultin wrote:
On April 18 2016 04:06 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 18 2016 03:24 rsoultin wrote:
On April 18 2016 01:57 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 17 2016 12:47 rsoultin wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:51 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:46 rsoultin wrote:
[quote]

okay so let's play a game here

you want me to treat you as confirmed town until your flip, then i want you to treat me as confirmed town as well

give me your other reads, with reasoning, and what questions you want me to answer that i've asked you for like 5 times already if you really want me to answer them

jat is town
jas is ??? but should be more apparent after he says who he is; giving him BotD
superbia is maybe scum (i have no good reasons on this one)
palmar is null because he's not really out of his comfort zone
i want to call rels and gumshoe scummy but that's mostly omgus
sl is a 49 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saaying one slightly scummy thing
gb is a 50 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saying nothing
onegu is a 51 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saying nothing of value
ows is town because i like how he continued to townread me
fazers is scummy but also new so maybe just a scrub

tbh my reads are all based on spidey senses right now



@tumble...super maybe scum=no vote as alternate wagon...gb exactly null=vote as alternate wagon

care to explain?

I was afraid of voting Superbia and him flipping green (not as a likelihood thing, but if he did I forecast my own mislynch for the next day). GB lynch happened at a point where several more townies had come out and defended me and attacked Superbia, so it felt, in a way, less risky.


-squints at- i don't really understand this explanation

what is the difference between you being lynched d1 or d2? until gb ninja-voted he was prob not getting lynched over super, yet you were still voting yourself because you were worried you'd be lynched d2 if super flipped town? so d1 is okay but not d2?

explain the bolded like i'm 5. what is the significance of when the gb lynch happened and how was that less risky?

Because at that point it was clear that voting a counterwagon was the difference between dying and surviving instead of dying d1 and dying d2.
Of course, it turned out GB would have died without my help, but it still seemed up in the air at the time.


why?

when superbia was the counterwagon i thought i would for sure be lynched at some point
when gb was the counterwagon it became apparent that maybe i wouldn't be lynched


okay, so honestly, you're just really confusing me here. like you're not making sense and my first instinct is that should be scum but i think even scum would make more sense here, so i must just not be understanding @.@

it's as simple as...the wagons are between super and myself. if i want to live i need to vote super

then

the wagons are between gb, super and myself. if i want to live i need to vote one of them

why would your scumread flipping town be worse than your null read flipping town?

nononono
when super was the counterwagon it wasn't "if i want to live i need to vote super", it was "if i don't vote super i die d1 if i vote super i die d2"
then everyone left super for gb and people simultaneously said that i was town, so it became "if i don't vote gb i die d1 if i vote gb i don't die"
like i got so entrenched in thinking i was going to die that i didn't even see superbia as a survival wagon, just a delay death wagon

Those 2 posts just don't make any sense to me at all. And considering this post from Storm:
On April 04 2016 06:52 Tumblewood wrote:
I think LS is an iffy lynch but I will go there to save myself.

One would really expect him to vote for his counterwagon. ESPECIALLY since he was scumreading it this time. Oh, and obviously he thinks supers claim was really shitty so even more reason to do so:
On April 19 2016 02:35 Tumblewood wrote:
oh see
even as I was typing this
attacking superbia's shitty claim
there is no easier thing to object to

On April 18 2016 05:41 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2016 05:25 Superbia wrote:
If I'm the vigi I'm shooting Palmar.

If I'm the doctor I'm saving Gumshoe.


Yolo.

wow good to know that you're actually not "actually not blue but VT fakeclaiming" but blue not claiming
if palmar dies superbia is conftown
if superbia dies superbia is dead and flipped
if both survive superbia is 99% scum and palmar is whatever
ezpz

This post is actually pretty weird if you consider that Palmar really died in the night. Maybe gumshoe was right and scum really did plan some retarded shit with the claim. Seems far fetched but who knows.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 22 2016 21:41 GMT
#1992
On April 23 2016 06:32 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2016 06:26 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 23 2016 06:19 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
[image loading]

A Shapelog Case/ last testomany.



Gentleman, ladies.

As we all know (or at least know) I have either A) been sus. of tumble from the geeko or B) argue a bit for his townieness. I've been flip flopy A bit and I know. So, I will basically give you my most updated read on tumble.

In this case, I shall be proving to you that the defendant, tumblewood, is indeed mafia (mostly likely). I shall start with what convinced me he is scum. This will not be a damm narrative (winks as Rels) this time either, as most of my town cases end up being.


Alright, the post that pushed me over the edge:
On April 23 2016 03:44 Tumblewood wrote:
Hola compadres, I apologize for my absence.
It seems like the plan is to lynch Shape and then me. Fortunately we have a mislynch, but that means bringing Onegu to LyLo (bar a doc save) and if Rels is scum-- still not ruled out-- we lose.
So I advise that you don't lynch me and instead go for Onegu or Rels. I'd recommend ignoring everything Shape says today because his words are laced with wine.

I kinda already have spew over this. So I just going to restate the facts a bit more.

Tumble comes in, almost what? 20+ hours since his last post, and posts this. Ok, the timing doesn't mean much. The content of the post however is the major fault.

The first glaring prob. is that he is auguring to defend himself, even before I fucking flip. And already trying to push someone else instead of him. This isn't even tumble's normal "post to sruvuvie" kinda post, and usually those posts are on the day he is getting lynched. Moreover, the fact he is already paranoid about dieing tomorrow makes no sense IMO from a townie mindset.

The next thing is the people he wants to lynch instead of him Rels, and Onegu. Alright, Rels I can understand from read progression (kinda) although, Tumble hasn't really explained anything about why he wants to lynch Rels since he revised his reads other than this:
Really, the scummiest thing Rels has done wasn't voting me D1 but dropping/ignoring the case later.

Which honestly really isn't enough IMO for a lynch but w.e I am not tumble.

Onegu on the other hand was TR by Tumble. Explanation:
On April 21 2016 03:07 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 21 2016 03:04 justanothertownie wrote:
Can you explain why you are townreading Onegu?

You don't claim your scum partner scumslipped and confirmed someone else as town (and keep telling everyone to make sure they all know) when clearly no one else saw it as that. It's counterproductive as scum and really useful as town (at least to the townie).

And no other changes has happen to that read that I or anyone knows of. This also shouldn't make Onegu one of his prefer lynches. I have a theory on why this is the case.

He reads the thread, sees that people are sus. of onegu for mutilate reasons, and even steals the "taking Onegu to Lylo" part of multiple peoples reads on Onegu. Dispate, only playing with Onegu before hand in XIX AND basically calling Onegu a high town read.

So the targets (mostly Onegu) don't even line the fuck up with how tumble is seeing the game.


Why I was sus. of him earlier (D1)

I was sus. of tumble D1 due to how he was playing, it didn't feel like the tumble I know. Hence why I voted for him. When I later brings this up (I went back to that discussion) Tumble says I can't use meta, for either side of the coin. I made a rebutlte (If I can't, you can't use XIX for meta, yet you have in the past), yet he does not respond ever again. I didn't noticed this actually until now. And at that time I remember me being in his town pool.

Also, people (rels) showed me also how his stance wasn't as strong as I thought. Won't really do into this as this was Rels point and not mine.



He still hasn't gave us anything as of late (and spent most of his time he back either down talking me) about expanding those "Man, I only got 1 scum and 6 town reads" revises outside of Rels, which is pretty shallow to say the least.

Can you explain why it didn't feel like the tumble you know day1?

This post outlines it:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2016 06:33 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:59 justanothertownie wrote:
Wtf where is this tumble vote from shaoe coming from?


Meta, Sorry i couldn't explain (I had to blast) but I can now.

As someone who has played scum with him, against him, and as town buddies, I kinda starting to understand Tumble. I was actually planning on coming forth with my identity (because I am the only one who would have that experience) earlier, but RL was a bitch.

Basically, Let me give you a quick synopsis of how he plays. Tumble usually is a low content poster, who most of the time, respond with questions or makes a statement. His filter, as town, is usually low in fluff, and if it has fluff, it usually is still paired with content of some degree (his noir theme posts for example.)

He also is pretty "cocky" if that is the word. Kinda smart ass too at times. rarely he will enter humor posts as town, and more so as scum (IIRC, he did this is ikido in the first scum game.)

And he usually always votes for survival too, like always. Which he really should of here, considering the person was a scum read of his before the wagons got close. usually he goes "Alright, I am survival voting X." Even if it is a meh read of his. Again, the only time I never seen him do it is when he is scum (though, this point really should be taken with a bit of salt about the scum thing, as he and I did it for a distance play)

I am just not getting the usual towny vibes i get from him when I am town and he is as well. Though i did click on his filter, and he has a 5 page filter, which i think is more than he had day 4 of any game lol.


Not Survival voting (reason why I even said I was Shape)
Tone things
Posting pattern
Overall vibes tbh.

Another fun fact:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2016 10:26 Tumblewood wrote:
Oh Onegu is one of those people who prefers talking about how great they are to playing the game
Yeah I'm not reading him until he actually has content

So now tumble you are going to answer the content part of this question I am asking you too.

I like this old post better than your newer case tbh. I think your description of his meta is pretty on point.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 22 2016 21:44 GMT
#1996
Where the fuck is rels....
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 22 2016 21:46 GMT
#1999
bleh

I will vote Tumble for now. This vote thing is so fucking damning. Added benefit of being able to blame rsoultin if I am wrong.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 22 2016 21:48 GMT
#2002
On April 23 2016 06:46 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2016 06:42 Onegu wrote:
On April 23 2016 06:39 gumshoe wrote:
On April 23 2016 06:35 Onegu wrote:
Calling it right now Tumble, Gumshoe scum team


Onegu has been told that I'm basically confirmed town this game,he knows how much he gets mislynched, with these two facts in mind he continues to be brutally obtuse.

Dis guy scum peepels



Told by SL, and people can change their meta when it is a activity based meta read. That doesnt make you confirmed god damn town.

And how can you keep saying it is bad when at least one other person has said they see what I see


He typed lol before that -_- and he might be scum.

Here's some stuff,

Jas is probs not scum with tumble, given the effort put I to his tumble case currently

Rels isn't scum with tumble, given how he convinced jat why he wasn't confirmed town

Sl isn't getting lynched today it seems,

So that leves onegu..... Whose already a great lynch cause he's scummy and he could be scum with anyone

Damn you jat "gumshoe get the fuck back"= ignore gumshoe.

Sorry, but all I see you doing right now is bashing Onegu and regardless of the fact if it is warranted or not it doesn't help me solve this game.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 22 2016 21:52 GMT
#2005
Last chance to convince me to vote someone else. I am not at all certain about this.

Looking at Obi here.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 22 2016 21:54 GMT
#2009
Obi man. If you want me to sheep you I will. If you pussy out I will sheep rsoultin/(rels) instead.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 22 2016 21:55 GMT
#2010
On April 23 2016 06:54 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2016 06:48 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 23 2016 06:46 gumshoe wrote:
On April 23 2016 06:42 Onegu wrote:
On April 23 2016 06:39 gumshoe wrote:
On April 23 2016 06:35 Onegu wrote:
Calling it right now Tumble, Gumshoe scum team


Onegu has been told that I'm basically confirmed town this game,he knows how much he gets mislynched, with these two facts in mind he continues to be brutally obtuse.

Dis guy scum peepels



Told by SL, and people can change their meta when it is a activity based meta read. That doesnt make you confirmed god damn town.

And how can you keep saying it is bad when at least one other person has said they see what I see


He typed lol before that -_- and he might be scum.

Here's some stuff,

Jas is probs not scum with tumble, given the effort put I to his tumble case currently

Rels isn't scum with tumble, given how he convinced jat why he wasn't confirmed town

Sl isn't getting lynched today it seems,

So that leves onegu..... Whose already a great lynch cause he's scummy and he could be scum with anyone

Damn you jat "gumshoe get the fuck back"= ignore gumshoe.

Sorry, but all I see you doing right now is bashing Onegu and regardless of the fact if it is warranted or not it doesn't help me solve this game.


I still think tumbles town based off that day 1 vote, you poked one hole and like you always do you disregarded everything I said so you could get back to read townies as scum for mistakes.

I've added plenty of reasons why onegu is scummy based off play, why his meta does not clear him and somewhat Indiets him, why were better off without him, why he has a high chance of bieng scum as he doesn't have to fit any association read, why the way the lynch is going suggests at the very least jas is town but more so that onegu is scum, why going into Lylo with him is a bad idea but sure, all that amounts to onegu bashing.
sigh

Didn't you just say tumble could very well be mafia with onegu so lynch onegu?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 22 2016 21:57 GMT
#2021
On April 23 2016 06:56 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2016 06:54 justanothertownie wrote:
Obi man. If you want me to sheep you I will. If you pussy out I will sheep rsoultin/(rels) instead.


Screw it - I'm sticking to my read.
I've been reasonably solid and I'm going to stay where I'm at.

That's not even an answer -.-
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 22 2016 21:58 GMT
#2027
On April 23 2016 06:57 Tumblewood wrote:
shape said "tumble did't vote for survival" and i felt like if i switched he would just yell at me for onlyswitching then

wat
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 22 2016 22:04 GMT
#2034
shit
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 22 2016 22:06 GMT
#2035
I hate this so much.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 22 2016 22:09 GMT
#2042
On April 23 2016 07:07 Tumblewood wrote:
Wtf
How does mafia even work
I thought I was dead and Shape was somehow going to win
Nope
Shape is VT and dead
Wtf

.... I saw that. If I fell for some shitty acting from you I will be really salty.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 22 2016 22:09 GMT
#2044
On April 23 2016 07:08 gumshoe wrote:
I hate you all, the feel of that lynch was all wrong. You wasted our 1 extra lynch on jas who wasn't even that bad, and tommorow your going to ignore me again and lynch tumble, can't wait.

You could have voted tumble instead if you thought jas was such a bad lynch. Then he would still be alive.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 22 2016 22:12 GMT
#2045
And if it was so bad if we would lynch tumble tomorrow then who the fuck do you even think is mafia with Onegu?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 22 2016 22:14 GMT
#2048
On April 23 2016 07:12 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2016 07:09 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 23 2016 07:08 gumshoe wrote:
I hate you all, the feel of that lynch was all wrong. You wasted our 1 extra lynch on jas who wasn't even that bad, and tommorow your going to ignore me again and lynch tumble, can't wait.

You could have voted tumble instead if you thought jas was such a bad lynch. Then he would still be alive.



Dude is scum and wanted a mislynch.

JAT I will make a actual case for you so you can read it with quotes and everything. You told me you would actually read it. May be in a day or 2 because weekend but I will have it in time to be talked about before deadline.

I seriously hope mafia puts me out of my misery first. But knowing my luck this game they are probably too chicken for that.
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