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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 16:49 GMT
#2605
Actually, give me a second.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 16:52 GMT
#2606
On April 26 2016 01:24 justanothertownie wrote:
Onegus day1 vote looks bad.
day2 is irrelevant.
day3 is unknown but I don't think it makes him town regardless of tumbles alignment.

Nightkills:
Idk if Palmar had any opinion on Onegu. Probably not.
Rsoultin scumread him.
Gumshoe scumread him hardcore.



I'm actually sort of unsure on the day 1 thing aside from the fact that "it looks bad."
I'm aware he voted poorly, but would he really just vote rso while his prospective rb was getting lynched? Seems counterintuitive.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 16:57 GMT
#2614
On April 26 2016 01:54 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2016 01:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On April 26 2016 01:24 justanothertownie wrote:
Onegus day1 vote looks bad.
day2 is irrelevant.
day3 is unknown but I don't think it makes him town regardless of tumbles alignment.

Nightkills:
Idk if Palmar had any opinion on Onegu. Probably not.
Rsoultin scumread him.
Gumshoe scumread him hardcore.



I'm actually sort of unsure on the day 1 thing aside from the fact that "it looks bad."
I'm aware he voted poorly, but would he really just vote rso while his prospective rb was getting lynched? Seems counterintuitive.

I don't think his rb was getting lynched when he voted, right?


I don't think so, but I think he was around for a bit while Superbia was getting lynched beforehand.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 16:58 GMT
#2615
On April 26 2016 01:56 justanothertownie wrote:
I love how invested tumble is in this LYLO though.


I know.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 17:04 GMT
#2627
On April 26 2016 01:58 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2016 01:57 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On April 26 2016 01:54 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 26 2016 01:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On April 26 2016 01:24 justanothertownie wrote:
Onegus day1 vote looks bad.
day2 is irrelevant.
day3 is unknown but I don't think it makes him town regardless of tumbles alignment.

Nightkills:
Idk if Palmar had any opinion on Onegu. Probably not.
Rsoultin scumread him.
Gumshoe scumread him hardcore.



I'm actually sort of unsure on the day 1 thing aside from the fact that "it looks bad."
I'm aware he voted poorly, but would he really just vote rso while his prospective rb was getting lynched? Seems counterintuitive.

I don't think his rb was getting lynched when he voted, right?


I don't think so, but I think he was around for a bit while Superbia was getting lynched beforehand.

You sure? I mean superbia only got really in danger right before deadline, no?


I'm rereading all of day 1 to be sure.
Normally that'd be hard but I'm sure it's like only 20-30 pages or something.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 17:29 GMT
#2637
I just reread day 1 and I still have no clue what onegu was doing.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 17:31 GMT
#2638
If there's a reason to avoid lynching him, I don't really see it.
I tried to look back and see if there's something I could read into (not saving the RB) but there really isn't. There's just nothing there that I can make sense of aside from some reads that aren't good.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 17:32 GMT
#2639
Brb for a bit.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 17:41 GMT
#2643
On April 26 2016 02:34 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2016 02:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
If there's a reason to avoid lynching him, I don't really see it.
I tried to look back and see if there's something I could read into (not saving the RB) but there really isn't. There's just nothing there that I can make sense of aside from some reads that aren't good.

I know. But the more time passes the more I want to kill tumble for not giving a single fuck about being in LYLO.


Yep.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 18:27 GMT
#2675
On April 26 2016 03:18 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2016 03:16 Rels wrote:
JAT & OWS thoughts on that ?
On April 25 2016 20:59 Rels wrote:
Now that I think of it, every killed town had one hard scumread in mind.
Palmar => Superbia
rsoul => Tumble
gumshoe => Onegu
The NKs are solving the game for us. Yeah I know gumshoe scumread me quite a lot too, but Onegu was his main target.

On April 25 2016 21:16 Rels wrote:
Gotta stop for now but I've seen enough to make up my mind unless something drastic happens.
JAT is town because he's super townie and he has been town spewed by both Superbia & Onegu, assuming Onegu flips scum.

SL is town because he attacked both Onegu and Superbia D1, so unless Onegu is not scum it's unlikely he's partners with us both. He voted Superbia D1 and AFKd his vote on him. He was AFK during portions of the game but when he played he had this style of posting quick successions of posts that he has a hard time replicating as scum. He's implicated to solving the game when he usually doesn't care enough to play a lot as scum.

Onegu is scum because he's super useless. He scumread Superbia and said he would sheep Palmar D1 while ultimately wasting his vote. He never commited to a read on rsoul who he usually is super wary off but wasted his time joking with her instead. He's hiding his reads behind "mechanical" stuff like "Superbia is scum because scumslip" or "Tumble is scum because Rels & SL are not partners" in order to not commit to actually scumreading his partner. Superbia townreads him when he had no reason to and when Onegu is an easy mislynch to push. He scumreads me but he has no reason to scumread me apart from "coping out", whatever that means.

Tumble is scum because when pressured to explain something, he invented a reason that was proven to be bullshit. He scumread Superbia for being AFK but attacked rsoul because she scumreads Superbia for the same reason. He scumread Superbia but didn't vote him EOD1 to save his life, he voted GB instead who he was null on. Superbia only fakeclaimed when it was clear GB was the second wagon, he didn't when Tumble was the second wagon. He was OK lynching rsoul D1 after Palmar and JAT both seem to be OK with it. He scumreads me but he doesn't have any reason to scumread me apart from "he only pushes my lynch when it's useful for scum to do it", when I have pushed him over Shape who was town so it doesn't make sense.

In addition, the three NKs points at this conclusion, it looks like they all chose a target each night: N1 Superbia, N2 Tumble, N3 Onegu.


I just refuse to believe this game is so easy that it is just tumble + onegu.


+1
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 18:52 GMT
#2692
On April 26 2016 03:51 Rels wrote:
Tumble's read on Superbia is really the strongest scum indicator. Both the fact that he scumread rsoultin who shared the almost same read and his refusal to vote him to survive EOD1.


I'm aware.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 18:55 GMT
#2696
I feel like I should probably switch to tumble here.
The logic behind voting tumble seems far and away more solid than voting Onegu for doing nothing.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 18:56 GMT
#2697
I think the only person I have reservations about at this point is SL but I don't have solid reasoning behind it other than he sounded like mafia a few points today.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 19:02 GMT
#2701
On April 26 2016 04:00 justanothertownie wrote:
I would feel really really bad about letting Onegu wiggle out of this if he is with SL or Rels.

But I also don't want to let tumble get away with this if he is with SL.




Don't worry - we're all aware.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 19:12 GMT
#2710
There were more than a few instances where I thought SL's pushing on onegu was kinda scummy.
The bolded makes a ton of sense to me tbh.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 19:16 GMT
#2712
I did stuff.
I just didn't wall up about it.
>:|
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 19:20 GMT
#2714
Right.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 19:21 GMT
#2715
Man letting onegu live here feels so stupid.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 19:35 GMT
#2721
lmao
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 19:50 GMT
#2729
Alright, I'm heading to work.
Still weighing whether or not to switch to tumble.
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