• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 16:58
CEST 22:58
KST 05:58
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202538Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments3[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder9EWC 2025 - Replay Pack4Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced55BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams11
StarCraft 2
General
Serral wins EWC 2025 The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings Interview with Chris "ChanmanV" Chan Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 2025 Classic: "It's a thick wall to break through to become world champ"
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) TaeJa vs Creator Bo7 SC Evo Showmatch FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $10,000 live event
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 485 Death from Below Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars
Brood War
General
BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams How do the new Battle.net ranks translate? BW General Discussion Nobody gona talk about this year crazy qualifiers? Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 2 [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 1 Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
[G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition Does 1 second matter in StarCraft? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread 9/11 Anniversary Possible Al Qaeda Attack on 9/11 Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2025 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
The Link Between Fitness and…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 733 users

TL Mafia LXXIV: Storm Mafia 3 - Page 8

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 6 7 8 9 10 25 Next All
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 28 2016 02:52 GMT
#1781
I've seen powers sort of like sls before so you will have yo be more exact, if I am to see what you are saying.

If we think kurm is town we have to think three shots were protected.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 28 2016 03:01 GMT
#1788
On March 28 2016 11:57 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2016 11:52 Damdred wrote:
I've seen powers sort of like sls before so you will have yo be more exact, if I am to see what you are saying.

If we think kurm is town we have to think three shots were protected.


meh >< fuck it

you both seem very sure that jat was shot. if you had a reason to be sure, sl knowing this already when he's claiming vet should be pretty suspicious, yet you don't seem to be reacting that way


jat is a pretty logical shot though don't you think?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 28 2016 03:12 GMT
#1790
You know RS what bugs me? Rels only post today that is really strange coming from him tbh

And I'm town don't worry just makes life easier that way
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 28 2016 14:06 GMT
#2028
I'm awake in awake.

This hasn't been a fun catchup phase to read sadly.

Just leave jat alone he is town or third party at worst never scum. I'm not hunting for third party so I really don't care.

Anyway I think rsoultin exchange made her look a bit more towny, SL looked pretty towny to though. And rit didn't look so bad.

I can get behind a rels lynch maybe to pressure koshi to
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 28 2016 14:14 GMT
#2033
Jats my baby mama and vivax who I think is town has him in a list. I'm disappointed in this series of events.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 28 2016 15:27 GMT
#2068
I built a case on Rels but before I submitted it I exit'd out and not sure if I believe it myself heres what I have and the thread can spit ball with me and see if I have anything worthwhile.

1) Rels is super different than normal, hes not involved in a lot of whats going on in the game. His activity is way down, his questioning and pressing people is a lot less than normal and hes not scum hunting almost at all.
2) His tone is way off, look at his eod post for d1. He was wrong he just says fuck and then fucks off it feels super contrived and fake to me. Usually rels when something like that is in the thread pressing people and coming up with reasonings and actually trying to proactivly help town but hes not doing that so much. Look at his post yesterday, he seems so upset that we lost a lynch bait player to him assuming a vig shot but shouldn't he be happy that we blocked both scum kp and almost gained a ml from it?
3) His questioning Ritoky really didn't lead anywhere, it seemed like it was his strongest read in the whole game the wagons were still super early when he came back he didn't press ritoky any more or even push his lynch. He decided to settle on what I consider for him to be a weaker read in tubesock he paints ritoky as his top scum read for most of his filter and focuses on him but quickly forgets it and goes with a easier wagon if you would.
4) His townreads on tumble is strange, and his townread on kurm is strange at the point as well. He barely has any active scum reads and doesn't seem to be hunting at all this game.

Its really strange and I think hes scum but maybe i'm making more out of it. Any ideas or things i'm wrong on is appreciated.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 28 2016 15:45 GMT
#2076
and everyone just ignores my post to make shitty one liners about sleep schedule which btw doesn't make anyone scum.

Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 28 2016 15:57 GMT
#2081
I would like everyone to comment on it in some way honestly giving any critisim or anything of the like.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 28 2016 16:12 GMT
#2085
On March 29 2016 01:03 Vivax wrote:
To answer Damdred:

When I read Rels there's some townie stuff actually. Sure he's inactive but I highly doubt that depends on his alignment as he can be a spammy and active mafia player. Reads more like he just does stuff on the run.

Show nested quote +
On March 26 2016 06:08 Rels wrote:
Caught up.
I don't want to lynch rsoultin.She's kinda underwhelming but she was also there talking about reads for a long time.
Tube on the other hand is a good lynch I think, I liked JAT and Kurumi's posts about him. Gonna filter him after that post to see if that changes my mind or not.
Still want to lynch ritoky too. For all the old reasons + he didn't do anything since. Like, it's really different from the town!ritoky I remember from two past games: I want to be a millionaire and ... nutcracker I think ? The one before outlaw. In those games, ritoky was challenging the thread with questions, and in nutcracker guiding the lynch towards someone scummy BUT while at the same time keeping the people he could read alive even if they were scummy. Like it showed a will to solve the game which is not there in this game; he did the plan and that is it.

Who I thnk is town in random order: Vivax, OWS, Kurumi, SL, Slam, JAT, Shape, Koshi, Tumble.
Who I'm OK lyncihng: tube, ritoky, Stutters, VA.
People I didn't list or I forgot are either null or slight lean one way or the other.



As for your points, I feel like I need to be advocatus diaboli as I dont feel its that strongly scum indicative:

Show nested quote +
On March 29 2016 00:27 Damdred wrote:
I built a case on Rels but before I submitted it I exit'd out and not sure if I believe it myself heres what I have and the thread can spit ball with me and see if I have anything worthwhile.

1) Rels is super different than normal, hes not involved in a lot of whats going on in the game. His activity is way down, his questioning and pressing people is a lot less than normal and hes not scum hunting almost at all.
2) His tone is way off, look at his eod post for d1. He was wrong he just says fuck and then fucks off it feels super contrived and fake to me. Usually rels when something like that is in the thread pressing people and coming up with reasonings and actually trying to proactivly help town but hes not doing that so much. Look at his post yesterday, he seems so upset that we lost a lynch bait player to him assuming a vig shot but shouldn't he be happy that we blocked both scum kp and almost gained a ml from it?
3) His questioning Ritoky really didn't lead anywhere, it seemed like it was his strongest read in the whole game the wagons were still super early when he came back he didn't press ritoky any more or even push his lynch. He decided to settle on what I consider for him to be a weaker read in tubesock he paints ritoky as his top scum read for most of his filter and focuses on him but quickly forgets it and goes with a easier wagon if you would.
4) His townreads on tumble is strange, and his townread on kurm is strange at the point as well. He barely has any active scum reads and doesn't seem to be hunting at all this game.

Its really strange and I think hes scum but maybe i'm making more out of it. Any ideas or things i'm wrong on is appreciated.


1) I dont think activity is alignment indicative in his case.
2) Idk, could be something but not what I would scumread people for, too activity centered. Tone wise I dont read much into it.
3) He said he would be ok lynching tubesock, I don't see much wrong with being OK with multiple targets. In this game you can compromise with others or you can be a lonely vote, why should he be a lonely vote?
4) Why is it strange? Isn't it just unexplained?


1) But it just is not activity either its how he is approaching the game not really looking for scum while he is here to an extent.
3) Once again his strongest scum read was Ritoky he talks about him then forgets it. Doesn't really talk much about tube before he just throws him in the list as well after the list he goes hard after tube when rit could of still been the lynch techincally.
4) It is strange because it is unexplained, he generally ahs more substantial reasoning.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 28 2016 16:36 GMT
#2091
On March 29 2016 01:29 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2016 01:12 Damdred wrote:
On March 29 2016 01:03 Vivax wrote:
To answer Damdred:

When I read Rels there's some townie stuff actually. Sure he's inactive but I highly doubt that depends on his alignment as he can be a spammy and active mafia player. Reads more like he just does stuff on the run.

On March 26 2016 06:08 Rels wrote:
Caught up.
I don't want to lynch rsoultin.She's kinda underwhelming but she was also there talking about reads for a long time.
Tube on the other hand is a good lynch I think, I liked JAT and Kurumi's posts about him. Gonna filter him after that post to see if that changes my mind or not.
Still want to lynch ritoky too. For all the old reasons + he didn't do anything since. Like, it's really different from the town!ritoky I remember from two past games: I want to be a millionaire and ... nutcracker I think ? The one before outlaw. In those games, ritoky was challenging the thread with questions, and in nutcracker guiding the lynch towards someone scummy BUT while at the same time keeping the people he could read alive even if they were scummy. Like it showed a will to solve the game which is not there in this game; he did the plan and that is it.

Who I thnk is town in random order: Vivax, OWS, Kurumi, SL, Slam, JAT, Shape, Koshi, Tumble.
Who I'm OK lyncihng: tube, ritoky, Stutters, VA.
People I didn't list or I forgot are either null or slight lean one way or the other.



As for your points, I feel like I need to be advocatus diaboli as I dont feel its that strongly scum indicative:

On March 29 2016 00:27 Damdred wrote:
I built a case on Rels but before I submitted it I exit'd out and not sure if I believe it myself heres what I have and the thread can spit ball with me and see if I have anything worthwhile.

1) Rels is super different than normal, hes not involved in a lot of whats going on in the game. His activity is way down, his questioning and pressing people is a lot less than normal and hes not scum hunting almost at all.
2) His tone is way off, look at his eod post for d1. He was wrong he just says fuck and then fucks off it feels super contrived and fake to me. Usually rels when something like that is in the thread pressing people and coming up with reasonings and actually trying to proactivly help town but hes not doing that so much. Look at his post yesterday, he seems so upset that we lost a lynch bait player to him assuming a vig shot but shouldn't he be happy that we blocked both scum kp and almost gained a ml from it?
3) His questioning Ritoky really didn't lead anywhere, it seemed like it was his strongest read in the whole game the wagons were still super early when he came back he didn't press ritoky any more or even push his lynch. He decided to settle on what I consider for him to be a weaker read in tubesock he paints ritoky as his top scum read for most of his filter and focuses on him but quickly forgets it and goes with a easier wagon if you would.
4) His townreads on tumble is strange, and his townread on kurm is strange at the point as well. He barely has any active scum reads and doesn't seem to be hunting at all this game.

Its really strange and I think hes scum but maybe i'm making more out of it. Any ideas or things i'm wrong on is appreciated.


1) I dont think activity is alignment indicative in his case.
2) Idk, could be something but not what I would scumread people for, too activity centered. Tone wise I dont read much into it.
3) He said he would be ok lynching tubesock, I don't see much wrong with being OK with multiple targets. In this game you can compromise with others or you can be a lonely vote, why should he be a lonely vote?
4) Why is it strange? Isn't it just unexplained?


1) But it just is not activity either its how he is approaching the game not really looking for scum while he is here to an extent.
3) Once again his strongest scum read was Ritoky he talks about him then forgets it. Doesn't really talk much about tube before he just throws him in the list as well after the list he goes hard after tube when rit could of still been the lynch techincally.
4) It is strange because it is unexplained, he generally ahs more substantial reasoning.


Well he seems concerned about the ritoky stuff, he doesn't forget him but joins the tube killing wagon after explaining why hes scumreading ritoky, doesnt seem like hes not being pragmatic for a d1.

He doesnt forget ritoky he just is ok killing someone else as well? Its just not true that ritoky could have been the lynch, Rels was one of the last to vote and he didnt want to kill rso but he was ok lynching tube so its only natural he will vote tube. Imo more likely to just not do anything if hes mafia unless rsoultin is mafia, which I dont know for sure.

4) unexplained is not strange imo, its just unexplained and its not like you need an explanation for everything, just like sandro didnt need one to kill stutters.


Totally didn't mention him again at any point besides that, 0 follow up past that. I forgot then his vote thats on me I thought it was much earlier than it was. And his only scum read since eod is Damdred

4) We knew why he had to kill stutters, becasue he was a total coinflip and needed to be removed from the game. Rels townreads... not so much especially when one is lynchable now.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 28 2016 18:12 GMT
#2121
I posted some things about Rels, I sort of think that Koshi is still town though just trolling.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 28 2016 18:22 GMT
#2129
Scott Please claim what role you are right now
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 28 2016 18:46 GMT
#2164
On March 29 2016 03:38 Tumblewood wrote:
I'll probably be gone or 150 posts behind for deadline but I think rsoul is the correct wagon here and Koshi is the next Tubesock ideally both would die, but there's something about the timing and structure of the Koshi wagon that smells fishy to me, like all the attention is being suddenly drawn away from rsoul again.


i hate this post so much that is why i voted him
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 28 2016 19:05 GMT
#2189
On March 29 2016 04:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2016 03:57 Tumblewood wrote:
On March 29 2016 03:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Vivax what do you think of tumblewood and his most recent "lynch both wagons and leave" attitude?

I couldn't possibly lynch both wagons. I see a high probability of scum v. scum or svt. Scum can thank me for providing an alternative to lynching their scumbuddy.


Dude you just suggested we should lynch both wagons for next to no reason and basically left.
Would you even be here if I wasn't here pestering you?

Again, who is mafia?


He actually suggested that RS is the better lynch because he thinks koshi is like tube (town) but he wishes both could die.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 28 2016 19:11 GMT
#2195
The thing that bothers me about the post is just that though obi, he thiks koshi is town or the wagon mafia needs to get going, but he wishes both would die. Its just so weird I guess
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 28 2016 19:24 GMT
#2200
No you didn't tumble you didn't say it was scum v scum.

You said it was scum (rsoultin) vs Koshi who you equated with tube who was town. YOu hated how koshis lynch formed and you think it smells fishy, this means its scum vs town.

So why the sudden change and make it scum vs scum?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 28 2016 20:16 GMT
#2220
Kurm list is strange? I don't think i could see a team with koshi, rit, rs on it...
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 28 2016 21:25 GMT
#2342
I think Tt is a decent shenany if we go that route though
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 28 2016 21:29 GMT
#2359
LS isn't scum though meh
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 28 2016 21:36 GMT
#2375
Why is tumble ml bait? Answer me that why he just isn't scummy?
Prev 1 6 7 8 9 10 25 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 14h 2m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
IndyStarCraft 295
CosmosSc2 110
StarCraft: Brood War
Larva 264
firebathero 129
ggaemo 99
Aegong 31
Dota 2
capcasts198
League of Legends
JimRising 320
Reynor80
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K1124
flusha652
byalli569
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu636
Khaldor580
Other Games
tarik_tv12639
summit1g6550
Grubby3034
fl0m1047
B2W.Neo968
420jenkins398
Sick38
JuggernautJason36
gofns0
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1774
StarCraft 2
angryscii 30
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH239
• davetesta92
• StrangeGG 84
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• sooper7s
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix32
• 80smullet 16
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota22144
League of Legends
• Doublelift3556
Other Games
• imaqtpie1494
Upcoming Events
Wardi Open
14h 2m
OSC
1d 3h
Stormgate Nexus
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
LiuLi Cup
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
[ Show More ]
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 20: Qualifier #1
FEL Cracow 2025
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Non-Korean Championship
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
HCC Europe
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.