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Eh, Typically i hate voting people off for that kinda of stuff. It kinda is a coinflip ( a bad one at that.)
Hoefully the 2 none posters will post soon.
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On March 25 2016 04:02 Stutters695 wrote:
Shape, if you had to lynch someone right now, who would you go for?
Hmm,
Rsoul is kinda off a bit due to her reads. From what i understand (and i really do not) she had 3 nulls, a p lynch, and 2 town reads? Still do not understand it.
VA hasn't done much, and if he doesn't pick up i might lynch.
I am guessing Tumble was here and choose to instead responded to things to defend himself from the JAT master. I am not sure really about him (as he needs to answer my questions)
Rels is on the fence for me.
Maybe one of Rsoul/VA/ and maybe Tumble off the top of my head. I am diving here and there
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Actually add OWS for that list for now.
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Sure LS! Give me a min.
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On March 25 2016 04:15 LightningStrike wrote:
JAT, Koshi, and Shape can I have your reads atm please?
It is early in the game, so nothing really is solid solid other than a few people. Moved some people up and down on this list.
Slam -> I believe his claim. Also a day 1 shot only vig for scum kinda seems dumb. Even if he is lying about the day 1 thing, day vig for scum is weird. Plus i like bread.
Rik -> most likely town, i felt that the plan wasn't great and the hunting a bit weird. But I still find him townie.
SL -> Town lean because he feels more like SL from Devil than from Cell. TBH i haven't really dive him so it really is pure meta. I get around to it one of these days.
Vivax -> Town lean
Some Nulls/unsure:
Super: Kinda move down because i need to read his filter passed the gum lynch points. I remember something about weird reads from him. I still like the points i made b4 about him quite possible being town. Just a dive would make me feel more confident.
Kumuni, i kinda want to put him the town section, because i find good things in him. But i like to wait for him to come back and post some more. Honorable town lean i guess? Nah Town lean, i feel like even with some lingering sus. on him i can give him a town lean. No, Making up my mind that i do want him to post more and flesh out other reads.
Koshi: I just don't feel sure on him. idk why tbh. Techically, everything he has done so far makes me want to town read him. But i don't. His Slam thing is a bit weird. But for sure, wouldn't lynch today.
LS:I do not think LS is scum, but i really cannot remember much of him. I know about the scum read -> town lean on gum but i forgot what he has done.
Sus. people IMO
Rsoul: I can't understand her, and noone explained anything to me. i do not see how people town read 3 nulls, a p lynch, and 2 town reads. She did than go on and scum read tumble and rik(?) Now, i might be just scum reading her because her posts wants my brain cells to jump into a woodchip grinder and let the blood flow free.
She kinda also subtracted it seems from tumble since she perfered a slam/rik lynch. Kinda a bit opportunistic.
Tumble: Mostly because he was here and just defended himself instead of doing anything. Currectly still waiting for answers about the 2 hour gap and stuff. He seems a bit fluster too. Thought, he is prob. the weakest one here.
Doubt these 2 are scum together tbh.
Sub division, people who i do not mind lynching.
VA: Posted something after the last post about the house of chuz. idk, he is pretty mellow. None of his posts have made me go "this guy is town"
OWS: Understand this guy might actually be busy, but posted 3 posts of value. 1 scum reading Rik for blue hunting (fair because i did so early on too) 1 town reading SL, and one supporting a Plynch. Prob. should move him into the sub division but i kinda expect more from him. Except from the Plynch though, he did come to the same conclusion i did about SL and Rik early on. Fuck it i move this guy to the sub division till he actually posts more.
Mr.Stutter: Here because i want him to post things to get a read on him.
Rels: I suck at reading Rels, All i ever want to do is scum read the living jesus out of him. half his filter was talk about slam, but when sl talked about slam, gloves were off. Like to flesh this read out and prob. dive a bit
Anyone who does not post and steal from the post jar.
People i am currently investigating
Tubesock: was diving filter when you called. Ranked Rels and JAT higher than Vivax. Kinda odd to me since Rels really has done nothing IMO to be higher up on the town list than Vivax. No offense to Rels (or JAT for that matter) but Vivax is tryharding and actually trying to solve this game. idk, maybe i am just being bias because i think vivax is town.
JAT: Haven't dive him at all. Interacts i saw in thread were semi-aggressive, but i remember him being a aggressive person from outlaw QT.
Damdred haven't dive yet. interactions with him feel promising though.
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I agree with this ^ plus points i saw in my own dive.
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On March 25 2016 05:04 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2016 04:55 Shapelog wrote:On March 25 2016 04:15 LightningStrike wrote:
JAT, Koshi, and Shape can I have your reads atm please? It is early in the game, so nothing really is solid solid other than a few people. Moved some people up and down on this list.
Slam -> I believe his claim. Also a day 1 shot only vig for scum kinda seems dumb. Even if he is lying about the day 1 thing, day vig for scum is weird. Plus i like bread. Rik -> most likely town, i felt that the plan wasn't great and the hunting a bit weird. But I still find him townie.
SL -> Town lean because he feels more like SL from Devil than from Cell. TBH i haven't really dive him so it really is pure meta. I get around to it one of these days. Vivax -> Town lean
Some Nulls/unsure: Super: Kinda move down because i need to read his filter passed the gum lynch points. I remember something about weird reads from him. I still like the points i made b4 about him quite possible being town. Just a dive would make me feel more confident. Kumuni, i kinda want to put him the town section, because i find good things in him. But i like to wait for him to come back and post some more. Honorable town lean i guess? Nah Town lean, i feel like even with some lingering sus. on him i can give him a town lean. No, Making up my mind that i do want him to post more and flesh out other reads. Koshi: I just don't feel sure on him. idk why tbh. Techically, everything he has done so far makes me want to town read him. But i don't. His Slam thing is a bit weird. But for sure, wouldn't lynch today. LS:I do not think LS is scum, but i really cannot remember much of him. I know about the scum read -> town lean on gum but i forgot what he has done.
Sus. people IMO Rsoul: I can't understand her, and noone explained anything to me. i do not see how people town read 3 nulls, a p lynch, and 2 town reads. She did than go on and scum read tumble and rik(?) Now, i might be just scum reading her because her posts wants my brain cells to jump into a woodchip grinder and let the blood flow free. She kinda also subtracted it seems from tumble since she perfered a slam/rik lynch. Kinda a bit opportunistic. Tumble: Mostly because he was here and just defended himself instead of doing anything. Currectly still waiting for answers about the 2 hour gap and stuff. He seems a bit fluster too. Thought, he is prob. the weakest one here. Doubt these 2 are scum together tbh.
Sub division, people who i do not mind lynching. VA: Posted something after the last post about the house of chuz. idk, he is pretty mellow. None of his posts have made me go "this guy is town" OWS: Understand this guy might actually be busy, but posted 3 posts of value. 1 scum reading Rik for blue hunting (fair because i did so early on too) 1 town reading SL, and one supporting a Plynch. Prob. should move him into the sub division but i kinda expect more from him. Except from the Plynch though, he did come to the same conclusion i did about SL and Rik early on. Fuck it i move this guy to the sub division till he actually posts more. Mr.Stutter: Here because i want him to post things to get a read on him. Rels: I suck at reading Rels, All i ever want to do is scum read the living jesus out of him. half his filter was talk about slam, but when sl talked about slam, gloves were off. Like to flesh this read out and prob. dive a bit Anyone who does not post and steal from the post jar.
People i am currently investigating Tubesock: was diving filter when you called. Ranked Rels and JAT higher than Vivax. Kinda odd to me since Rels really has done nothing IMO to be higher up on the town list than Vivax. No offense to Rels (or JAT for that matter) but Vivax is tryharding and actually trying to solve this game. idk, maybe i am just being bias because i think vivax is town. JAT: Haven't dive him at all. Interacts i saw in thread were semi-aggressive, but i remember him being a aggressive person from outlaw QT. Damdred haven't dive yet. interactions with him feel promising though. Elaborate on sicklucker please I honestly didn't care for his stuff so far atm.
Mostly that read comes from him being more like devil than Cell. SaltShaker in cell seemed to achieve (getting Damdred to be mayor etc.) something than here 
Idk, it not really one thing that sticks out, its more his generaliness fits what i know of him as town. Like i said i didn't dive him, but he feels townie.
Now, this is the part where you question me on why i am using a meta read.
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On March 25 2016 05:16 Tubesock wrote:
Shapes moved up my list.
Also to clarify my earlier list had Jat and Rels just below Vivax. Probably should have used colons or something to make it more clear.
Shape, can you elaborate on either/both of Superbia and Kurumi?
Ah, it didn't read off like that. and sure.
Super: He kinda has fizzled a bit. But early on he was pushing town development and even admitting to frabacating a reason to push Gum. idk what kind of scum admits to that. And although i found some of his Koshi agurement weird, i could understand it. It didn't rub me wrong while i was catching up.
Kurumi: I admit the fishing treatment difference between Rik and Gum was off and some other points. But after rereading his last post, the aplogize tone there feels more townie than mafia. That really all that changed from:
On March 25 2016 02:12 Shapelog wrote:Alright, Kurmini and Gumshow, I am debating rather or not this is actually town v town or Scum v town atm. Kumini thing about fishing is a tad bit weird when you consider his response to Riks. fishing. Show nested quote +Holy shit dude, your plan... wasn't that... great. Yeah, you've done that and I believe you, but that brought a lot more harm than anything else. As a person who has hosted games and has played in fair share of them, not only hosts give the Vanilla Townie name (and sometimes more) they also offer fakeclaims for every role under the sun. Your argument that revealing VTs would create an impossible-to-combat Town Circle is also wrong, because, well, your assumption was that people who know the name will behave accordingly... which is people being VTs and Mafia.
I think your play is more indicative of a naive townie than a scum. If you were scum, you'd be more blunt about the claim. Maybe claim the name in some disorted way, maybe hint it more strongly, I have no idea, but for sure you'd try to fish for someone disagreeing with you. Another slight-town read. Vs this before the flip Show nested quote +You have defended fishing as a townie thing to do. No, fishing (that is, trying to get a role read off someone) is not a townie thing to do. As a townie, you do not try to give information that mafia might act upon! What good can come from getting someone to claim VT or non-VT? None! None for a townie! I wonder if Gum flipping town made Kuminini change face due to the fact that he tunneled onto the gum. Which goes along with how he phrased his last post. About being apologetic and stuff. His anger, to be fair, was brought on by the fact that Gum either dodge some questions (see 1st response from Gum, point 2,) and from the confusion it seems about SL. Kumini tone is a bit aggressive here though. Which is prob. the reason why i hate to call it town on town here. Points sounded at times like a attack than a questioning. But it was dropped as he flipped (not just on gum, but on others.) I would like to see Kumini expand a bit also on his reads. So far he really on has focused on SL, Gum, and rik. With a meta read on Koshi. I have been questioned by him also, and await a follow up from him. Something feels off with their interaction. idk, maybe it is just my gut fucking up again. His last post also felt townie minus the bold. I also do like this from Kuminini though upon looking in his filter: Show nested quote +On March 24 2016 08:53 Kurumi wrote:On March 24 2016 08:51 Superbia wrote:On March 24 2016 08:50 LightningStrike wrote:On March 24 2016 08:47 Superbia wrote:On March 24 2016 08:45 ritoky wrote:On March 24 2016 08:21 Superbia wrote:
Ritoky come out of the shadows and show me your true colours. damdred is probably not VT, burgeoning on almost certainly not. you might be VT. I am not VT. Why claim not VT? Seems kinda dumb. Might still be VT. But I'm claiming I'm not. No role discussion, unless you are Scum and are benefiting from it, damn you! Ritoky, why bring VT thing in the thread?!
Tumble: Eh it was there but didn't do much despite (i am guessing here) getting town vibes from Gumshow being lynch bait and focused a tad bit on the wagon. I feel though, that i want him to come back and answer the 2 hour gap in posting and his thought process (as iirc, this is not the first time he has done this) Annoyingly his timezone is pacific and so i rarely get to interact with him.
Super: Super was the main starter on the wagon (obv.) He done some weird things, but, he literally admitted to frabcating (I am using fracbacted because he littlearly said he made it up to push Gum) the troll thing on Gum. Why would scum ever do this? Other things. like driving discussion and such makes me think he is town. He is even going the extra mile and looking into the flip townies filter. Some reads a bit weak/off though. Still like him
I have just realized though that he actually kinda called Rik scum their but kinda backtracked.
I am still wanting him to flesh out his reads. Though, idk if i would lynch him this cycle though.
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On March 25 2016 05:23 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2016 05:12 Shapelog wrote:On March 25 2016 05:04 LightningStrike wrote:On March 25 2016 04:55 Shapelog wrote:On March 25 2016 04:15 LightningStrike wrote:
JAT, Koshi, and Shape can I have your reads atm please? It is early in the game, so nothing really is solid solid other than a few people. Moved some people up and down on this list.
Slam -> I believe his claim. Also a day 1 shot only vig for scum kinda seems dumb. Even if he is lying about the day 1 thing, day vig for scum is weird. Plus i like bread. Rik -> most likely town, i felt that the plan wasn't great and the hunting a bit weird. But I still find him townie.
SL -> Town lean because he feels more like SL from Devil than from Cell. TBH i haven't really dive him so it really is pure meta. I get around to it one of these days. Vivax -> Town lean
Some Nulls/unsure: Super: Kinda move down because i need to read his filter passed the gum lynch points. I remember something about weird reads from him. I still like the points i made b4 about him quite possible being town. Just a dive would make me feel more confident. Kumuni, i kinda want to put him the town section, because i find good things in him. But i like to wait for him to come back and post some more. Honorable town lean i guess? Nah Town lean, i feel like even with some lingering sus. on him i can give him a town lean. No, Making up my mind that i do want him to post more and flesh out other reads. Koshi: I just don't feel sure on him. idk why tbh. Techically, everything he has done so far makes me want to town read him. But i don't. His Slam thing is a bit weird. But for sure, wouldn't lynch today. LS:I do not think LS is scum, but i really cannot remember much of him. I know about the scum read -> town lean on gum but i forgot what he has done.
Sus. people IMO Rsoul: I can't understand her, and noone explained anything to me. i do not see how people town read 3 nulls, a p lynch, and 2 town reads. She did than go on and scum read tumble and rik(?) Now, i might be just scum reading her because her posts wants my brain cells to jump into a woodchip grinder and let the blood flow free. She kinda also subtracted it seems from tumble since she perfered a slam/rik lynch. Kinda a bit opportunistic. Tumble: Mostly because he was here and just defended himself instead of doing anything. Currectly still waiting for answers about the 2 hour gap and stuff. He seems a bit fluster too. Thought, he is prob. the weakest one here. Doubt these 2 are scum together tbh.
Sub division, people who i do not mind lynching. VA: Posted something after the last post about the house of chuz. idk, he is pretty mellow. None of his posts have made me go "this guy is town" OWS: Understand this guy might actually be busy, but posted 3 posts of value. 1 scum reading Rik for blue hunting (fair because i did so early on too) 1 town reading SL, and one supporting a Plynch. Prob. should move him into the sub division but i kinda expect more from him. Except from the Plynch though, he did come to the same conclusion i did about SL and Rik early on. Fuck it i move this guy to the sub division till he actually posts more. Mr.Stutter: Here because i want him to post things to get a read on him. Rels: I suck at reading Rels, All i ever want to do is scum read the living jesus out of him. half his filter was talk about slam, but when sl talked about slam, gloves were off. Like to flesh this read out and prob. dive a bit Anyone who does not post and steal from the post jar.
People i am currently investigating Tubesock: was diving filter when you called. Ranked Rels and JAT higher than Vivax. Kinda odd to me since Rels really has done nothing IMO to be higher up on the town list than Vivax. No offense to Rels (or JAT for that matter) but Vivax is tryharding and actually trying to solve this game. idk, maybe i am just being bias because i think vivax is town. JAT: Haven't dive him at all. Interacts i saw in thread were semi-aggressive, but i remember him being a aggressive person from outlaw QT. Damdred haven't dive yet. interactions with him feel promising though. Elaborate on sicklucker please I honestly didn't care for his stuff so far atm. Mostly that read comes from him being more like devil than Cell. SaltShaker in cell seemed to achieve (getting Damdred to be mayor etc.) something than here Idk, it not really one thing that sticks out, its more his generaliness fits what i know of him as town. Like i said i didn't dive him, but he feels townie. Now, this is the part where you question me on why i am using a meta read. Oh I not going to question why you using a meta read I just wondering because I honestly can't read him for shit because Linux didn't do nice things to me regarding saltshaker :\
Oh yeah, i remember that. That is what you also said last game as scum with him
I am actually quite surprise that you didn't catch it though.
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Hmmm,
Might actually look back into Kumuni
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On March 25 2016 05:32 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2016 05:30 Shapelog wrote:On March 25 2016 05:23 LightningStrike wrote:On March 25 2016 05:12 Shapelog wrote:On March 25 2016 05:04 LightningStrike wrote:On March 25 2016 04:55 Shapelog wrote:On March 25 2016 04:15 LightningStrike wrote:
JAT, Koshi, and Shape can I have your reads atm please? It is early in the game, so nothing really is solid solid other than a few people. Moved some people up and down on this list.
Slam -> I believe his claim. Also a day 1 shot only vig for scum kinda seems dumb. Even if he is lying about the day 1 thing, day vig for scum is weird. Plus i like bread. Rik -> most likely town, i felt that the plan wasn't great and the hunting a bit weird. But I still find him townie.
SL -> Town lean because he feels more like SL from Devil than from Cell. TBH i haven't really dive him so it really is pure meta. I get around to it one of these days. Vivax -> Town lean
Some Nulls/unsure: Super: Kinda move down because i need to read his filter passed the gum lynch points. I remember something about weird reads from him. I still like the points i made b4 about him quite possible being town. Just a dive would make me feel more confident. Kumuni, i kinda want to put him the town section, because i find good things in him. But i like to wait for him to come back and post some more. Honorable town lean i guess? Nah Town lean, i feel like even with some lingering sus. on him i can give him a town lean. No, Making up my mind that i do want him to post more and flesh out other reads. Koshi: I just don't feel sure on him. idk why tbh. Techically, everything he has done so far makes me want to town read him. But i don't. His Slam thing is a bit weird. But for sure, wouldn't lynch today. LS:I do not think LS is scum, but i really cannot remember much of him. I know about the scum read -> town lean on gum but i forgot what he has done.
Sus. people IMO Rsoul: I can't understand her, and noone explained anything to me. i do not see how people town read 3 nulls, a p lynch, and 2 town reads. She did than go on and scum read tumble and rik(?) Now, i might be just scum reading her because her posts wants my brain cells to jump into a woodchip grinder and let the blood flow free. She kinda also subtracted it seems from tumble since she perfered a slam/rik lynch. Kinda a bit opportunistic. Tumble: Mostly because he was here and just defended himself instead of doing anything. Currectly still waiting for answers about the 2 hour gap and stuff. He seems a bit fluster too. Thought, he is prob. the weakest one here. Doubt these 2 are scum together tbh.
Sub division, people who i do not mind lynching. VA: Posted something after the last post about the house of chuz. idk, he is pretty mellow. None of his posts have made me go "this guy is town" OWS: Understand this guy might actually be busy, but posted 3 posts of value. 1 scum reading Rik for blue hunting (fair because i did so early on too) 1 town reading SL, and one supporting a Plynch. Prob. should move him into the sub division but i kinda expect more from him. Except from the Plynch though, he did come to the same conclusion i did about SL and Rik early on. Fuck it i move this guy to the sub division till he actually posts more. Mr.Stutter: Here because i want him to post things to get a read on him. Rels: I suck at reading Rels, All i ever want to do is scum read the living jesus out of him. half his filter was talk about slam, but when sl talked about slam, gloves were off. Like to flesh this read out and prob. dive a bit Anyone who does not post and steal from the post jar.
People i am currently investigating Tubesock: was diving filter when you called. Ranked Rels and JAT higher than Vivax. Kinda odd to me since Rels really has done nothing IMO to be higher up on the town list than Vivax. No offense to Rels (or JAT for that matter) but Vivax is tryharding and actually trying to solve this game. idk, maybe i am just being bias because i think vivax is town. JAT: Haven't dive him at all. Interacts i saw in thread were semi-aggressive, but i remember him being a aggressive person from outlaw QT. Damdred haven't dive yet. interactions with him feel promising though. Elaborate on sicklucker please I honestly didn't care for his stuff so far atm. Mostly that read comes from him being more like devil than Cell. SaltShaker in cell seemed to achieve (getting Damdred to be mayor etc.) something than here Idk, it not really one thing that sticks out, its more his generaliness fits what i know of him as town. Like i said i didn't dive him, but he feels townie. Now, this is the part where you question me on why i am using a meta read. Oh I not going to question why you using a meta read I just wondering because I honestly can't read him for shit because Linux didn't do nice things to me regarding saltshaker :\ Oh yeah, i remember that. That is what you also said last game as scum with him I am actually quite surprise that you didn't catch it though. I honestly had lost my ability to read him ask Tina when she is around because I did admit it to her in real life before this game.
Jeez man, i joking. I can't read Rels for shit either (well sometimes, depends of if he is being hateful or not)
Still didn't catch it thou.... Thought you knew me.
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On March 25 2016 05:43 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2016 05:37 Shapelog wrote:On March 25 2016 05:32 LightningStrike wrote:On March 25 2016 05:30 Shapelog wrote:On March 25 2016 05:23 LightningStrike wrote:On March 25 2016 05:12 Shapelog wrote:On March 25 2016 05:04 LightningStrike wrote:On March 25 2016 04:55 Shapelog wrote:On March 25 2016 04:15 LightningStrike wrote:
JAT, Koshi, and Shape can I have your reads atm please? It is early in the game, so nothing really is solid solid other than a few people. Moved some people up and down on this list.
Slam -> I believe his claim. Also a day 1 shot only vig for scum kinda seems dumb. Even if he is lying about the day 1 thing, day vig for scum is weird. Plus i like bread. Rik -> most likely town, i felt that the plan wasn't great and the hunting a bit weird. But I still find him townie.
SL -> Town lean because he feels more like SL from Devil than from Cell. TBH i haven't really dive him so it really is pure meta. I get around to it one of these days. Vivax -> Town lean
Some Nulls/unsure: Super: Kinda move down because i need to read his filter passed the gum lynch points. I remember something about weird reads from him. I still like the points i made b4 about him quite possible being town. Just a dive would make me feel more confident. Kumuni, i kinda want to put him the town section, because i find good things in him. But i like to wait for him to come back and post some more. Honorable town lean i guess? Nah Town lean, i feel like even with some lingering sus. on him i can give him a town lean. No, Making up my mind that i do want him to post more and flesh out other reads. Koshi: I just don't feel sure on him. idk why tbh. Techically, everything he has done so far makes me want to town read him. But i don't. His Slam thing is a bit weird. But for sure, wouldn't lynch today. LS:I do not think LS is scum, but i really cannot remember much of him. I know about the scum read -> town lean on gum but i forgot what he has done.
Sus. people IMO Rsoul: I can't understand her, and noone explained anything to me. i do not see how people town read 3 nulls, a p lynch, and 2 town reads. She did than go on and scum read tumble and rik(?) Now, i might be just scum reading her because her posts wants my brain cells to jump into a woodchip grinder and let the blood flow free. She kinda also subtracted it seems from tumble since she perfered a slam/rik lynch. Kinda a bit opportunistic. Tumble: Mostly because he was here and just defended himself instead of doing anything. Currectly still waiting for answers about the 2 hour gap and stuff. He seems a bit fluster too. Thought, he is prob. the weakest one here. Doubt these 2 are scum together tbh.
Sub division, people who i do not mind lynching. VA: Posted something after the last post about the house of chuz. idk, he is pretty mellow. None of his posts have made me go "this guy is town" OWS: Understand this guy might actually be busy, but posted 3 posts of value. 1 scum reading Rik for blue hunting (fair because i did so early on too) 1 town reading SL, and one supporting a Plynch. Prob. should move him into the sub division but i kinda expect more from him. Except from the Plynch though, he did come to the same conclusion i did about SL and Rik early on. Fuck it i move this guy to the sub division till he actually posts more. Mr.Stutter: Here because i want him to post things to get a read on him. Rels: I suck at reading Rels, All i ever want to do is scum read the living jesus out of him. half his filter was talk about slam, but when sl talked about slam, gloves were off. Like to flesh this read out and prob. dive a bit Anyone who does not post and steal from the post jar.
People i am currently investigating Tubesock: was diving filter when you called. Ranked Rels and JAT higher than Vivax. Kinda odd to me since Rels really has done nothing IMO to be higher up on the town list than Vivax. No offense to Rels (or JAT for that matter) but Vivax is tryharding and actually trying to solve this game. idk, maybe i am just being bias because i think vivax is town. JAT: Haven't dive him at all. Interacts i saw in thread were semi-aggressive, but i remember him being a aggressive person from outlaw QT. Damdred haven't dive yet. interactions with him feel promising though. Elaborate on sicklucker please I honestly didn't care for his stuff so far atm. Mostly that read comes from him being more like devil than Cell. SaltShaker in cell seemed to achieve (getting Damdred to be mayor etc.) something than here Idk, it not really one thing that sticks out, its more his generaliness fits what i know of him as town. Like i said i didn't dive him, but he feels townie. Now, this is the part where you question me on why i am using a meta read. Oh I not going to question why you using a meta read I just wondering because I honestly can't read him for shit because Linux didn't do nice things to me regarding saltshaker :\ Oh yeah, i remember that. That is what you also said last game as scum with him I am actually quite surprise that you didn't catch it though. I honestly had lost my ability to read him ask Tina when she is around because I did admit it to her in real life before this game. Jeez man, i joking. I can't read Rels for shit either (well sometimes, depends of if he is being hateful or not) Still didn't catch it thou.... Thought you knew me. No I don't + Show Spoiler +I actually know you but I went full retard on that.
I am just going to drop it because it wasn't going to be useful
On March 25 2016 05:43 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2016 03:51 justanothertownie wrote:On March 25 2016 03:49 Damdred wrote:
VayneAuthority
Kurumi
Stutters695
sandroba
Rels
Tictock
Tumblewood
Tubesock
Right now I think most of the scum is in this list so far, or at least people I would think about lynching today. Kurumi, VA and Rels are sort of fringe being off the list just because I think they seem like they could be useful if they are town down the road so far. Rels is pretty idk difficult right now he doesn't have a few of his town things he generally does going for him.
The others are an assortment of policy/low volume/failure to postings/no real smart things so far. I find the lack of sandroba disturbing. oh ya i remember this guy. hes vivax level scum player lets lynch him
If he is not here, and it is like a few hours till deadline. I might vote, rather vote someone that is not Plynch basically thou.
Also TT finally showed up. So sandman is last one.
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On March 25 2016 05:49 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2016 05:04 LightningStrike wrote:On March 25 2016 04:55 Shapelog wrote:On March 25 2016 04:15 LightningStrike wrote:
JAT, Koshi, and Shape can I have your reads atm please? It is early in the game, so nothing really is solid solid other than a few people. Moved some people up and down on this list.
Slam -> I believe his claim. Also a day 1 shot only vig for scum kinda seems dumb. Even if he is lying about the day 1 thing, day vig for scum is weird. Plus i like bread. Rik -> most likely town, i felt that the plan wasn't great and the hunting a bit weird. But I still find him townie.
SL -> Town lean because he feels more like SL from Devil than from Cell. TBH i haven't really dive him so it really is pure meta. I get around to it one of these days. Vivax -> Town lean
Some Nulls/unsure: Super: Kinda move down because i need to read his filter passed the gum lynch points. I remember something about weird reads from him. I still like the points i made b4 about him quite possible being town. Just a dive would make me feel more confident. Kumuni, i kinda want to put him the town section, because i find good things in him. But i like to wait for him to come back and post some more. Honorable town lean i guess? Nah Town lean, i feel like even with some lingering sus. on him i can give him a town lean. No, Making up my mind that i do want him to post more and flesh out other reads. Koshi: I just don't feel sure on him. idk why tbh. Techically, everything he has done so far makes me want to town read him. But i don't. His Slam thing is a bit weird. But for sure, wouldn't lynch today. LS:I do not think LS is scum, but i really cannot remember much of him. I know about the scum read -> town lean on gum but i forgot what he has done.
Sus. people IMO Rsoul: I can't understand her, and noone explained anything to me. i do not see how people town read 3 nulls, a p lynch, and 2 town reads. She did than go on and scum read tumble and rik(?) Now, i might be just scum reading her because her posts wants my brain cells to jump into a woodchip grinder and let the blood flow free. She kinda also subtracted it seems from tumble since she perfered a slam/rik lynch. Kinda a bit opportunistic. Tumble: Mostly because he was here and just defended himself instead of doing anything. Currectly still waiting for answers about the 2 hour gap and stuff. He seems a bit fluster too. Thought, he is prob. the weakest one here. Doubt these 2 are scum together tbh.
Sub division, people who i do not mind lynching. VA: Posted something after the last post about the house of chuz. idk, he is pretty mellow. None of his posts have made me go "this guy is town" OWS: Understand this guy might actually be busy, but posted 3 posts of value. 1 scum reading Rik for blue hunting (fair because i did so early on too) 1 town reading SL, and one supporting a Plynch. Prob. should move him into the sub division but i kinda expect more from him. Except from the Plynch though, he did come to the same conclusion i did about SL and Rik early on. Fuck it i move this guy to the sub division till he actually posts more. Mr.Stutter: Here because i want him to post things to get a read on him. Rels: I suck at reading Rels, All i ever want to do is scum read the living jesus out of him. half his filter was talk about slam, but when sl talked about slam, gloves were off. Like to flesh this read out and prob. dive a bit Anyone who does not post and steal from the post jar.
People i am currently investigating Tubesock: was diving filter when you called. Ranked Rels and JAT higher than Vivax. Kinda odd to me since Rels really has done nothing IMO to be higher up on the town list than Vivax. No offense to Rels (or JAT for that matter) but Vivax is tryharding and actually trying to solve this game. idk, maybe i am just being bias because i think vivax is town. JAT: Haven't dive him at all. Interacts i saw in thread were semi-aggressive, but i remember him being a aggressive person from outlaw QT. Damdred haven't dive yet. interactions with him feel promising though. Elaborate on sicklucker please I honestly didn't care for his stuff so far atm. holy shit you have a read on me for the first time in after 30 games played together?
perhaps you should read further.
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On March 25 2016 05:54 sicklucker wrote:
no I understand but he came out and basicly said "why is sl a town read for you?"
Like why would he do this if he cant read me? It makes no sense. He would go "sure, ok, i Have no idea" that's what a town ls would do
Hmmm. I really do not know if that is what a town Ls would do, so i might check data.
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On March 25 2016 05:54 Koshi wrote:
Pretty sure I should make it to D4 or D5. Afk till then.
This, kids, is what the deadly sin, sloth, looks like in a mafia game. ^^
I beening useless, so cut the useless chatter. I am starting to open a can of spam.,
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On March 25 2016 06:01 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2016 05:28 Shapelog wrote:On March 25 2016 05:16 Tubesock wrote:
Shapes moved up my list.
Also to clarify my earlier list had Jat and Rels just below Vivax. Probably should have used colons or something to make it more clear.
Shape, can you elaborate on either/both of Superbia and Kurumi? Ah, it didn't read off like that. and sure. Super: He kinda has fizzled a bit. But early on he was pushing town development and even admitting to frabacating a reason to push Gum. idk what kind of scum admits to that. And although i found some of his Koshi agurement weird, i could understand it. It didn't rub me wrong while i was catching up. Kurumi: I admit the fishing treatment difference between Rik and Gum was off and some other points. But after rereading his last post, the aplogize tone there feels more townie than mafia. That really all that changed from: On March 25 2016 02:12 Shapelog wrote:Alright, Kurmini and Gumshow, I am debating rather or not this is actually town v town or Scum v town atm. Kumini thing about fishing is a tad bit weird when you consider his response to Riks. fishing. Holy shit dude, your plan... wasn't that... great. Yeah, you've done that and I believe you, but that brought a lot more harm than anything else. As a person who has hosted games and has played in fair share of them, not only hosts give the Vanilla Townie name (and sometimes more) they also offer fakeclaims for every role under the sun. Your argument that revealing VTs would create an impossible-to-combat Town Circle is also wrong, because, well, your assumption was that people who know the name will behave accordingly... which is people being VTs and Mafia.
I think your play is more indicative of a naive townie than a scum. If you were scum, you'd be more blunt about the claim. Maybe claim the name in some disorted way, maybe hint it more strongly, I have no idea, but for sure you'd try to fish for someone disagreeing with you. Another slight-town read. Vs this before the flip You have defended fishing as a townie thing to do. No, fishing (that is, trying to get a role read off someone) is not a townie thing to do. As a townie, you do not try to give information that mafia might act upon! What good can come from getting someone to claim VT or non-VT? None! None for a townie! I wonder if Gum flipping town made Kuminini change face due to the fact that he tunneled onto the gum. Which goes along with how he phrased his last post. About being apologetic and stuff. His anger, to be fair, was brought on by the fact that Gum either dodge some questions (see 1st response from Gum, point 2,) and from the confusion it seems about SL. Kumini tone is a bit aggressive here though. Which is prob. the reason why i hate to call it town on town here. Points sounded at times like a attack than a questioning. But it was dropped as he flipped (not just on gum, but on others.) I would like to see Kumini expand a bit also on his reads. So far he really on has focused on SL, Gum, and rik. With a meta read on Koshi. I have been questioned by him also, and await a follow up from him. Something feels off with their interaction. idk, maybe it is just my gut fucking up again. His last post also felt townie minus the bold. I also do like this from Kuminini though upon looking in his filter: On March 24 2016 08:53 Kurumi wrote:On March 24 2016 08:51 Superbia wrote:On March 24 2016 08:50 LightningStrike wrote:On March 24 2016 08:47 Superbia wrote:On March 24 2016 08:45 ritoky wrote:On March 24 2016 08:21 Superbia wrote:
Ritoky come out of the shadows and show me your true colours. damdred is probably not VT, burgeoning on almost certainly not. you might be VT. I am not VT. Why claim not VT? Seems kinda dumb. Might still be VT. But I'm claiming I'm not. No role discussion, unless you are Scum and are benefiting from it, damn you! Ritoky, why bring VT thing in the thread?!
Tumble: Eh it was there but didn't do much despite (i am guessing here) getting town vibes from Gumshow being lynch bait and focused a tad bit on the wagon. I feel though, that i want him to come back and answer the 2 hour gap in posting and his thought process (as iirc, this is not the first time he has done this) Annoyingly his timezone is pacific and so i rarely get to interact with him.
Super: Super was the main starter on the wagon (obv.) He done some weird things, but, he literally admitted to frabcating (I am using fracbacted because he littlearly said he made it up to push Gum) the troll thing on Gum. Why would scum ever do this? Other things. like driving discussion and such makes me think he is town. He is even going the extra mile and looking into the flip townies filter. Some reads a bit weak/off though. Still like him
I have just realized though that he actually kinda called Rik scum their but kinda backtracked. I am still wanting him to flesh out his reads. Though, idk if i would lynch him this cycle though. Superbia seems pretty consistent to me. I don't see this fizzle out. What do you mean about his Koshi argument? Do you disagree that Koshi can't be mafia and do what he did in regards to his emotional burst? As far as Kurumi goes, I'd argue that mafia needs to act remorseful when they kill a towny. Maybe not needs but often does. Helps blending in and showing they care and are trying to reevaluate. I don't think that should be a towny point.
I meant Fizzled like disappeard/slightly less interesting. I don't disagree with the chance that Koshi could be scum in regards to that.
On March 24 2016 22:52 Superbia wrote:
Actually my problem lies with Koshi's push, and it doesn't necessarily directly relates to Koshi's alignment, but more to the fact that I feel he may have been spewed by mafia (i.e. people are calling him town too quickly).
I will elaborate. Koshi's "anger-push" on Ritoky was completely unfounded, as Ritoky had gum high in his town-list (a post that was posted pretty much before the shot), as a result of his post (and a small number of other circumstances), Ritoky would've never shot gum. This is somewhat obvious from first glace, and completely obvious after looking deeper into it (even without considering Slam's soft). I felt that the emotion behind Koshi's post was townie, but the content was absolutely not. It was undirected and based on nothing close to logic.
I believe that this does not mean Koshi is mafia, but rather that the people who piled on to calling Koshi town that quickly are more suspect (i.e. I'm the first to bring this up).
I actually misread this. I read the main paragraph on catching up.
Eh you might be right about that. Actually come to think about it, i think iirc there was something about mafia apoloizing more in the XXX Analist.
I relook into Kumuni.
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On March 25 2016 06:11 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2016 02:23 Shapelog wrote:On March 25 2016 01:52 Rels wrote:On March 25 2016 01:50 sicklucker wrote:
so what we know about slam is that he had to maybe shoot 8 hours in advance? (that sounds more like a townie role because a mafia would know whos town so I feel like its only a role that would be given to town.
What we dont know is if slam had to fire 4 hours into the game because doing that was so bad that I think it was part of his role. can you shut the fuck up and wait for Slam to either claim his role or fake it Irony. + Show Spoiler +On March 25 2016 00:56 Rels wrote:Slam apparently knew when his shot was going to land: Show nested quote +On March 24 2016 10:57 Alakaslam wrote:
Within about 8 hours. This is a claim of sorts.
Take it for what it is, I'll be back soon. And posted 25 minutes before it happened: Show nested quote +On March 24 2016 17:51 Alakaslam wrote:
Gumshoe making me rethink convictions over here. Hmm.
Must sleep on it, real quick So him no staying up to see what the guy he shot flipped is super weird. On March 25 2016 01:01 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2016 01:00 justanothertownie wrote:On March 25 2016 00:56 Rels wrote:Slam apparently knew when his shot was going to land: On March 24 2016 10:57 Alakaslam wrote:
Within about 8 hours. This is a claim of sorts.
Take it for what it is, I'll be back soon. And posted 25 minutes before it happened: On March 24 2016 17:51 Alakaslam wrote:
Gumshoe making me rethink convictions over here. Hmm.
Must sleep on it, real quick So him no staying up to see what the guy he shot flipped is super weird. Since you just looked at it - when did he make this post about rsoultin where he says "too late now"? Was this before the second quote? Because if that is the case this is really odd. Yeah it was before. That post where he is like "mm I need to make up my mind" is the last thing he posted. On March 24 2016 22:21 Rels wrote:List of breadcrumbs: Show nested quote +On March 24 2016 10:57 Alakaslam wrote:
Within about 8 hours. This is a claim of sorts.
Take it for what it is, I'll be back soon. Show nested quote +On March 24 2016 11:29 Alakaslam wrote:On March 24 2016 11:14 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
So this started. there are more meanings to this statement, especially with it's timing. Indeed, Things have Started. Show nested quote +On March 24 2016 11:36 Alakaslam wrote:
y'all gotta find out how fast fast is Show nested quote +On March 24 2016 12:52 Alakaslam wrote:On March 24 2016 12:27 rsoultin wrote:
badumdum!
ise the bedrock on which you're built, the cog in the machine, the...awful rsoul who has only skimmed lol ><
prelim thoughts
- foil and ls = town <- dude, breaking meta? xP
- damdred <-> personality...i sees parallels! (pick me, pick me! unless you're a nasty personality :/ are you a nasty?)
- slam poss policy lynch viz a viz aperture or whatever the fuck that game was...no tricky this time @.@ guess we'll see at the 12hr tick...but if this is end the day early again dropkick time!
- rit...bleh me no likey, though tbh you suck at reading ls anyway so maybe that doesn't mean anything
- kuru holy wot batman o.0 that normal for this dude? don't think i've played with him before
- gum...seen posts like that from him before but i forget alignment...gut says nai
hnnnn
ye i can't remember anything else catching my eye...at least slam might be interesting when i wake up! \o/ Should have waited for this Would have shot this Clearly not reading. Too late though Show nested quote +On March 24 2016 17:51 Alakaslam wrote:
Gumshoe making me rethink convictions over here. Hmm.
Must sleep on it, real quick On March 24 2016 22:30 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2016 22:24 Damdred wrote:
I think rels rit already explained why he did it, while its a bit meh explanation it makes sense from either alignment rit should just know better than that meh.
Besides that what do you think of people jumping on the gumshoe wagon so fast? Any opinions on those people so far? His explanation doesn't make sense with his actions I think but I want to talk to him. I don't have any solid read on anyone, jumping on gumshoe wagon or not. Strongest town I have is Koshi and Vivax. ritoky and Slam's actions don't make sense so I want to see if they can explain it. On March 24 2016 22:37 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2016 22:33 LightningStrike wrote:On March 24 2016 22:32 Rels wrote:On March 24 2016 22:28 LightningStrike wrote:On March 24 2016 22:21 Rels wrote:List of breadcrumbs: On March 24 2016 10:56 Alakaslam wrote:
I expect things to fire up soon. On March 24 2016 10:57 Alakaslam wrote:
Within about 8 hours. This is a claim of sorts.
Take it for what it is, I'll be back soon. On March 24 2016 11:29 Alakaslam wrote:On March 24 2016 11:14 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
So this started. there are more meanings to this statement, especially with it's timing. Indeed, Things have Started. On March 24 2016 11:36 Alakaslam wrote:
y'all gotta find out how fast fast is On March 24 2016 12:52 Alakaslam wrote:On March 24 2016 12:27 rsoultin wrote:
badumdum!
ise the bedrock on which you're built, the cog in the machine, the...awful rsoul who has only skimmed lol ><
prelim thoughts
- foil and ls = town <- dude, breaking meta? xP
- damdred <-> personality...i sees parallels! (pick me, pick me! unless you're a nasty personality :/ are you a nasty?)
- slam poss policy lynch viz a viz aperture or whatever the fuck that game was...no tricky this time @.@ guess we'll see at the 12hr tick...but if this is end the day early again dropkick time!
- rit...bleh me no likey, though tbh you suck at reading ls anyway so maybe that doesn't mean anything
- kuru holy wot batman o.0 that normal for this dude? don't think i've played with him before
- gum...seen posts like that from him before but i forget alignment...gut says nai
hnnnn
ye i can't remember anything else catching my eye...at least slam might be interesting when i wake up! \o/ Should have waited for this Would have shot this Clearly not reading. Too late though On March 24 2016 17:51 Alakaslam wrote:
Gumshoe making me rethink convictions over here. Hmm.
Must sleep on it, real quick Meh they were very subtle well played on that.... Anyways any other thoughts atm? no :\ Okay..... Do you think the gunshoe shot was good or bad and why? It was bad unless Slam HAD to shoot somebody today or something like that. On March 24 2016 22:57 Rels wrote:Slam might be town because of the way Palmar balances his games: Show nested quote +On February 19 2016 01:16 Palmar wrote:
My games generally do not have activity requirements or mandatory voting. Additionally, I do not replace people out unless it's in extreme circumstances. To balance this out I usually provide town with tools to get rid of worthless players (mislynches, vigis).
On the other hand, I'm surprised I modkill so little, one of my mantras in hosting has always been "Don't be afraid of modkilling people" I can and I will modkill people. Turns out I don't have to do it very often. Which is "regulate balance by giving guns to town". At the very least, he is very likely town if we find out later that there is no other town KP. So ? I want to know what is going on with Slam role, and at the same time I don't want people to give him an easy fakeclaim is he's scum.
But then why did you post this?
On March 24 2016 22:57 Rels wrote:Slam might be town because of the way Palmar balances his games: Show nested quote +On February 19 2016 01:16 Palmar wrote:
My games generally do not have activity requirements or mandatory voting. Additionally, I do not replace people out unless it's in extreme circumstances. To balance this out I usually provide town with tools to get rid of worthless players (mislynches, vigis).
On the other hand, I'm surprised I modkill so little, one of my mantras in hosting has always been "Don't be afraid of modkilling people" I can and I will modkill people. Turns out I don't have to do it very often. Which is "regulate balance by giving guns to town".At the very least, he is very likely town if we find out later that there is no other town KP.
It tech. gives him a out.
I will admit that the irony thing was a semi-joke though.
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kunumi likes big posts and he cannot lie.
Also jumpy.
@Rels
Ok...Why do i feel like i am making a deal with the devil?
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On March 25 2016 01:24 Tubesock wrote:
Good morning.
Kurumi is my biggest scum read. Seems opportunistic with the Gumdrops push. Damdred was fishing (but not for roles) and it didn't seem Gums was saying Damdred was fishing for that, but Kurumi jumps his ass. Meanwhile Ritoky ACTUALLY fishes for roles yet all Kurumi says is "very vary of Ritoky". The rest of Kurumi's posts seem nitpicky.
Tumble and Shape are forgettable and blending.
I'm going to leave Koshi at null. I'm not liking his "play" but I did like his little outburst of emotion. Although, I find it hard to believe that can't be faked.
As far as town I think my strongest TR's are Superbia, Vivax just below Jat and Rels. Damdred with a town lean.
Ritoky probably is in fact VT.
Slam I think is probably town. I am having trouble seeing the point of breadcrumbing so much if he were mafia. Why not just shut up and blow someone up? I do want to hear his explanation.
Read my posts again(not skim!) so you can have a good town read on me, because my filter defends itself without any problems. Just because I have not coloured every of my reads or made a list of them doesn't mean they are not there.
Gumshoe's filter wasn't really that exciting besides him sharing my suspicions on both Koshi and sicklucker, he did not have time to bring anything new to the table sadly. His last couple of posts was finally something I expected out of him. He also looked like agreeing with me more and more. On the topic of sicklucker:
What was good in my post you quoted?
What are your scumreads and why?
I don't like that you just quoted my entire post and said it was good while not really pushing anyone or anything in the thread.
I am also let down by Alakaslam, he could've said that we have a way to kill two D1, basically a double lynch and we could just make him shoot the second person in line... Why the bloodlust Slam, why?! It's so anti-town the only reason I think you are Town is that noone is trying to capitalize on it...
For the last 20 minutes I've been looking for a post suggesting that scum's KP is up for them to decide whether to use it day or night, it felt like hardcore slip, but then I might've dreamt it...[/QUOTE]
Since you are here, and been looking and surely have notied things. Do you have any new reads?
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Show nested quote +On March 25 2016 01:24 Tubesock wrote:
Good morning.
Kurumi is my biggest scum read. Seems opportunistic with the Gumdrops push. Damdred was fishing (but not for roles) and it didn't seem Gums was saying Damdred was fishing for that, but Kurumi jumps his ass. Meanwhile Ritoky ACTUALLY fishes for roles yet all Kurumi says is "very vary of Ritoky". The rest of Kurumi's posts seem nitpicky.
Tumble and Shape are forgettable and blending.
I'm going to leave Koshi at null. I'm not liking his "play" but I did like his little outburst of emotion. Although, I find it hard to believe that can't be faked.
As far as town I think my strongest TR's are Superbia, Vivax just below Jat and Rels. Damdred with a town lean.
Ritoky probably is in fact VT.
Slam I think is probably town. I am having trouble seeing the point of breadcrumbing so much if he were mafia. Why not just shut up and blow someone up? I do want to hear his explanation. Read my posts again(not skim!) so you can have a good town read on me, because my filter defends itself without any problems. Just because I have not coloured every of my reads or made a list of them doesn't mean they are not there.Gumshoe's filter wasn't really that exciting besides him sharing my suspicions on both Koshi and sicklucker, he did not have time to bring anything new to the table sadly. His last couple of posts was finally something I expected out of him. He also looked like agreeing with me more and more. On the topic of sicklucker: What was good in my post you quoted? What are your scumreads and why? I don't like that you just quoted my entire post and said it was good while not really pushing anyone or anything in the thread. I am also let down by Alakaslam, he could've said that we have a way to kill two D1, basically a double lynch and we could just make him shoot the second person in line... Why the bloodlust Slam, why?! It's so anti-town the only reason I think you are Town is that noone is trying to capitalize on it... For the last 20 minutes I've been looking for a post suggesting that scum's KP is up for them to decide whether to use it day or night, it felt like hardcore slip, but then I might've dreamt it...
Since you are here, and been looking and surely have notied things. Do you have any new reads? or thoughts?
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